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tarot party!

  • 02-04-2008 10:39am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭


    Hi,

    Does anyone know a tarot card reader who comes to your home or a fortune teller. I have heard you can have parties where they come to your house and take turns going into a room to get you fortune told etc...

    I wanted to organise one, I think it would be a good twist to a party


    "your going to be successfull"... (few glasses of wine).... dont you tell me wat to do ya gypsy... ha

    or...

    you go into the room "all your friends hate you"...... AWKWARD!! ha!

    seriously though... any1 know any1? thanks :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Why don't you hire a gigalo & hooker and have people take turns going in to a room with him and getting their roide instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭passive




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭macbarbie


    rb_ie wrote: »
    Why don't you hire a gigalo & hooker and have people take turns going in to a room with him and getting their roide instead?

    well thats always an option except me and my friends have dignity... i dunno that might get in the way like... most of us have boyfriends too, that could also prove to be an issue..

    other than that yeah... good idea!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    You could get a psychic gigalo. It's the best of both worlds!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    humanji wrote: »
    You could get a psychic gigalo. It's the best of both worlds!

    I might actually know one .... has anyone seen mankeyfudge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    tarot cards are retarded mumbo jumbo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ross_Mahon


    My Mother does them, I constantly argue about how they don't work, its a load of crap!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭mdebets


    If you have to hire a fortune teller, you know he isn't good.
    If he were good, he could see into the future and know that he will be in your house at your party, without you having to tell him.
    How could you expect him to tell you your future, if he doesn't even know his?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    bleg wrote: »
    tarot cards are retarded mumbo jumbo.

    Only if you're ignorant

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Only if you're ignorant
    I would more assume you are ignorant in not believing scientific fact as opposed to old tricks and spells.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    A fool and his money...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Winters wrote: »
    I would more assume you are ignorant in not believing scientific fact as opposed to old tricks and spells.

    You do know what Tarot cards do, don't you?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭macbarbie


    mdebets wrote: »
    If you have to hire a fortune teller, you know he isn't good.
    If he were good, he could see into the future and know that he will be in your house at your party, without you having to tell him.
    How could you expect him to tell you your future, if he doesn't even know his?



    :D good thinking!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Only if you're intelligent

    Fixed that for ya.
    You do know what Tarot cards do, don't you?

    Prey on the weak.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    You do know what Tarot cards do, don't you?

    yes, absolutely nothing.

    well that's not true, they also make money for the people who own them and are willing to manipulate gullible idiots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭macbarbie


    Ross_Mahon wrote: »
    My Mother does them, I constantly argue about how they don't work, its a load of crap!

    how come so many people predictions are true then, there not like horriscopes, "you ate breakfast today" oh my god thats true i did!!

    there more specific readings of your life, theres some power in them if they can tell you your going to get married next year, when your single and it comes true they defo work!! i have heard stories like this!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    macbarbie wrote: »
    there more specific readings of your life, theres some power in them if they can tell you your going to get married next year, when your single and it comes true they defo work!! i have heard stories like this!

    Guess work, law of average's and the need to believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭macbarbie


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    Guess work, law of average's and the need to believe.


    ok so your 23 single butt ugly... and they say ul get married next year and describe what he looks like!!

    come on like thats some guess work!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭macbarbie


    anyways i just think it would be good fun at a party!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    i don't see how mass produced laminated pieces of cardboard with pictures on them can predict the future


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Mordeth wrote: »
    yes, absolutely nothing.

    well that's not true, they also make money for the people who own them and are willing to manipulate gullible idiots.

    Ah, I didn't think you did, hence the use of the word 'ignorant' earlier on!

    The prosecution rests, your honour, unless the defence would like to tell us what he knows said cards are BELIEVED to do...?
    Bleg wrote:
    i don't see how mass produced laminated pieces of cardboard with pictures on them can predict the future

    They can't. Who told you that they could...?:confused:

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    macbarbie wrote: »
    ok so your 23 single butt ugly... and they say ul get married next year and describe what he looks like!!

    come on like thats some guess work!!

    Just luck.
    50/50 chance of it happening.
    If it hadn't happened nothing would be said, it would have been forgotten.
    If it did, well wow, that tarot reader really knows their stuff.
    Ikky Poo2 wrote:
    The prosecution rests, your honour

    Not yet.
    Why don't you explain to us how they 'work'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    About time someone asked, rather than pole vaulting to conclusions

    Tarot Cards are davination tools, NOT furutre telling tools. The belief is that we have most of the answers we need laready, we just aren't able to access them. Scientifcally speaking, we only use 10% of our brains.

    The symbology is said to be a linkwith your inner self/davine self whaever you want to call it, can can be used to chart a course of action or for advice.

    It's the same as going to a counsellor: they'll tell you what you could do, what you might do, what they'd advise you to do. They will NOT tell you what's going to happen in the future, because the future isn't definet yet.

    No Tarot card reader will ever justifyably tell you that they can predict the future. A psychic might, but that's a different argument.

    If you think it's rubbish fine, but I've yet to hear a 100% scientific argument to the contrary.

    Now you know!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭macbarbie


    i found one in dublin who does reading, her name is patricia, she records the reading for you so you can listen back a year later and see that it came true, she obviously very confident!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭macbarbie


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    About time someone asked, rather than pole vaulting to conclusions

    Tarot Cards are davination tools, NOT furutre telling tools. The belief is that we have most of the answers we need laready, we just aren't able to access them. Scientifcally speaking, we only use 10% of our brains.

    The symbology is said to be a linkwith your inner self/davine self whaever you want to call it, can can be used to chart a course of action or for advice.

    It's the same as going to a counsellor: they'll tell you what you could do, what you might do, what they'd advise you to do. They will NOT tell you what's going to happen in the future, because the future isn't definet yet.

    No Tarot card reader will ever justifyably tell you that they can predict the future. A psychic might, but that's a different argument.

    If you think it's rubbish fine, but I've yet to hear a 100% scientific argument to the contrary.

    Now you know!


    oooh very interesting.... how about the ones that contact the dead.... wat are they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    macbarbie wrote: »
    oooh very interesting.... how about the ones that contact the dead.... wat are they?

    Mediums (Media?) Not sure how you'd go about that. Ask 6th?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭macbarbie


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Mediums (Media?) Not sure how you'd go about that. Ask 6th?


    i think thats really scarey, id never go to one of them!

    we where gonna have the party in my sisters house but she changed her mind and said no coz shes afraid shel do a spell or bring in a spirit to the house!!

    i was like.. she reads tarot cards you loon!! i dunno some ppl!! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ross_Mahon


    macbarbie wrote: »
    how come so many people predictions are true then, there not like horriscopes, "you ate breakfast today" oh my god thats true i did!!

    there more specific readings of your life, theres some power in them if they can tell you your going to get married next year, when your single and it comes true they defo work!! i have heard stories like this!
    The oul one has this book that explains each card and basically what you say to them when she picks the cards, she did mine and was picking out cards and using them as an excuse to give out to me! 'good health' "You need to get out more" :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭macbarbie


    Ross_Mahon wrote: »
    The oul one has this book that explains each card and basically what you say to them when she picks the cards, she did mine and was picking out cards and using them as an excuse to give out to me! 'good health' "You need to get out more" :D

    haha... em this is a picture of a sad mother.. you need to give me more money son!!

    did you ever see father ted when hes at one....

    place silver in my palm...
    silver??
    give us a pound!!

    Of course, first card... Death. So the reader explains that it means metamorphosis etc. Second card... Death. Third card... Death.


    thats strange.. theres only supposed to be one in the packet haha!!

    then..

    i liked the notion that Fortune telling was somehow no less credible than "that ol' rubbish we were taught at catholic seminary..." God, angels, the afterlife etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    macbarbie wrote: »
    haha... em this is a picture of a sad mother.. you need to give me more money son!!

    did you ever see father ted when hes at one....

    place silver in my palm...
    silver??
    give us a pound!!

    Of course, first card... Death. So the reader explains that it means metamorphosis etc. Second card... Death. Third card... Death.


    thats strange.. theres only supposed to be one in the packet haha!!

    then..

    i liked the notion that Fortune telling was somehow no less credible than "that ol' rubbish we were taught at catholic seminary..." God, angels, the afterlife etc.

    There's a rule: you can't do a Tarot card sketch on TV without the Death card. (Which doesn't actually mean death in the first place!)

    It is kinda similar to prayer in a way that you're communicating with a different power, but it internal or external. The problem is that catholicism is more chanting than prayer. I'd describe as spiritual (you aren't 'taught' anything) as opposed to religion.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭macbarbie


    actually this has dramatically changed the whole point of my post ha...


    so does any1 know some1 who does tarot parties??:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    About time someone asked, rather than pole vaulting to conclusions

    Tarot Cards are davination tools, NOT furutre telling tools. The belief is that we have most of the answers we need laready, we just aren't able to access them. Scientifcally speaking, we only use 10% of our brains.

    scientifically speaking we use 100% of our brains. there is roughly a 9:1 proportion of neurons to support cells in the brain. these support cells are called glial cells and have various functions from forming the blood-brain barrier to synthesis of neurotransmitters to disposal of waste proteins. neurons, which are responsible for conducting impulses so that we can move, feel, taste, think, speak etc.. comprise about 10% of the brain. thus it leads to the rather unscientific assumption that we only "use 10% of our brains."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    I told you in post 4.

    Hi, I'm 6th.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    About time someone asked, rather than pole vaulting to conclusions

    Tarot Cards are davination tools, NOT furutre telling tools. The belief is that we have most of the answers we need laready, we just aren't able to access them. Scientifcally speaking, we only use 10% of our brains.

    The symbology is said to be a linkwith your inner self/davine self whaever you want to call it, can can be used to chart a course of action or for advice.

    It's the same as going to a counsellor: they'll tell you what you could do, what you might do, what they'd advise you to do. They will NOT tell you what's going to happen in the future, because the future isn't definet yet.

    No Tarot card reader will ever justifyably tell you that they can predict the future. A psychic might, but that's a different argument.

    If you think it's rubbish fine, but I've yet to hear a 100% scientific argument to the contrary.

    Now you know!

    oh, well I'm convinced. It's a legitimate science after all.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Scientifcally speaking, we only use 10% of our brains.
    That's a load of rubbish that any scientist would laugh at tbh. Complete myth that never had any basis in fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Mordeth wrote: »
    oh, well I'm convinced. It's a legitimate science after all.

    I never said it was (did I?:confused:). I just corrected the idea that people think you can use them to predict the future.

    Reegarding the 10% of the brain thing, fair enough, I stand correct (never thoght it was jsust a myth, though)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Tarot Cards are davination tools, NOT furutre telling tools. The belief is that we have most of the answers we need laready, we just aren't able to access them. Scientifcally speaking, we only use 10% of our brains.

    The symbology is said to be a linkwith your inner self/davine self whaever you want to call it, can can be used to chart a course of action or for advice.

    It's the same as going to a counsellor: they'll tell you what you could do, what you might do, what they'd advise you to do. They will NOT tell you what's going to happen in the future, because the future isn't definet yet.
    So can you get the cards and do it yourself or do you need a reader? Is there a reason to spend money on a tarot reader?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭macbarbie


    6th wrote: »
    I told you in post 4.

    Hi, I'm 6th.

    oh sorry.. jus seen that now.... yay thank you!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    About time someone asked, rather than pole vaulting to conclusions

    Tarot Cards are davination tools, NOT furutre telling tools. The belief is that we have most of the answers we need laready, we just aren't able to access them. Scientifcally speaking, we only use 10% of our brains.

    The symbology is said to be a linkwith your inner self/davine self whaever you want to call it, can can be used to chart a course of action or for advice.

    It's the same as going to a counsellor: they'll tell you what you could do, what you might do, what they'd advise you to do. They will NOT tell you what's going to happen in the future, because the future isn't definet yet.

    No Tarot card reader will ever justifyably tell you that they can predict the future. A psychic might, but that's a different argument.

    If you think it's rubbish fine, but I've yet to hear a 100% scientific argument to the contrary.

    Now you know!
    So you're saying that you subconciously pick cards which map out a rough idea about where you subconciously want your life to go, or your needs etc... ?

    If so, how does your subconcious know which cards are which since you can't see or know which cards have which symbols?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    magic

    oh i'm sorry it's not magic, it's majick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Tarot Cards are davination tools, NOT furutre telling tools.

    Definitions of divination
    "the art or gift of prophecy (or the pretense of prophecy) by supernatural means"

    "Divination (Greek μαντεια, from μαντις "seer", anglicized in the suffix -mancy, see also mania) is the attempt of ascertaining information by interpretation of omens or an alleged supernatural agency. "

    "The art of using magickal tools and symbols to gather information from the Collective unconscious on the nature of people. places, things, and events in the past, present and future. Also known as Dukkerin, Dukkering."

    "Divination is the attempt of ascertaining information by supernatural means. Divination has a formal or ritual and often social character, usually in a religious context; fortune-telling is a more everyday practice for personal purposes."

    Tarot Cards seem to rely on the person in question to have a large support in non-scientific/factual basis and believe in a supernatural or higher power which will ultimately guide them. I for one do not believe in supernatural higher powers or imaginary friends. I believe in scientific and factual basis. Tarot cards have neither and so, to me is nothing more than a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭18AD


    Winters wrote: »
    I believe in scientific and factual basis. Tarot cards have neither and so, to me is nothing more than a joke.

    Jokes are great. Much needed in times where people take things so seriously. And people taking jokes seriously is the best joke of all. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    18AD wrote: »
    Jokes are great. Much needed in times where people take things so seriously. And people taking jokes seriously is the best joke of all. :p
    But people paying to have a joke played on them is nothing more then being conned is it not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭macbarbie


    Debbie visited a psychic of some local repute. In a dark and gloomy room, gazing at the tarot cards laid out before her, the tarot reader delivered the bad news:

    "There's no easy way to say this, so I'll just be blunt - prepare yourself to be a widow. Your husband will die a violent and horrible death this year."

    Visibly shaken, Jennifer stared at the woman's lined face, then at the single flickering candle, then down at her hands. She took a few deep breaths to compose herself. She was very upset!

    She simply had to know. She met the tarot reader's gaze, steadied her voice, and asked:
    "Will I get away with it?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Sherifu wrote: »
    So can you get the cards and do it yourself or do you need a reader? Is there a reason to spend money on a tarot reader?

    Not at all, if you know what the cards symbolise. As with any service, if you feel you can do a better job yourself, why would you hive someone else?
    Winters wrote:
    Tarot Cards seem to rely on the person in question to have a large support in non-scientific/factual basis and believe in a supernatural or higher power which will ultimately guide them. I for one do not believe in supernatural higher powers or imaginary friends. I believe in scientific and factual basis. Tarot cards have neither and so, to me is nothing more than a joke.

    I believe that science and spirituality (not religion, just in case you think that's what I mean) can ixest side by side. I do thin people put too much believe in science just as they can with religion. Scientists once convinced the world was flat.

    If you don't beleive that's fine, but do you know enough about what your talking to label something as a joke? A lot of people find entertainment in them.

    Incidently, Buddhists define the inner slef as the true divinity, so you're what I'm saying can exist within your definitions. The thrid one is inconsistent, as davination is nothing to do with foretelling the future - that's more a defintion of psychic than davination.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Mordeth wrote: »
    magic

    oh i'm sorry it's not magic, it's majick


    Only if you are using Crowley's Thoth deck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    I believe that science and spirituality (not religion, just in case you think that's what I mean) can ixest side by side. I do thin people put too much believe in science just as they can with religion. Scientists once convinced the world was flat.

    However, in one of your earlier posts you implied one of the reasons tarot reading is legit is because you have never heard any 100% scientific argument against it. But now you are saying that science doesn't really matter, and you'd believe in reading regardless?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭18AD


    Winters wrote: »
    But people paying to have a joke played on them is nothing more then being conned is it not?

    I was refering to anyone who takes it seriously. Not just the people paying for it. The joke lies in the belief system not the actions. As most humour involving actions is people getting degraded... which sucks tbh.
    Of course being lied to for financial benefit is a con! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    However, in one of your earlier posts you implied one of the reasons tarot reading is legit is because you have never heard any 100% scientific argument against it. But now you are saying that science doesn't really matter, and you'd believe in reading regardless?

    Not at all, I was commenting on people who said that they disbeleived because science coun't prove it. My point here was that science isn't the always accrate and can't prove everything. My theories in relation to taort cards are based on spirtuality rahter than science.

    regarding your ealier point (sorry I missed it)
    If so, how does your subconcious know which cards are which since you can't see or know which cards have which symbols?

    it doesn't - if your mind is centred, it will be drawn to certain cards. This bit goes beyond my comprehension - you'd have to ask in the psychic forum for more info, but that's the theory.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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