LHC = End of world???may 28th 2008

Jackovarian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

ok, you'll have to do a bit of digging on his one, but its certainly something to ponder!

ok, my thread title is a bit of a joke, but it is a serious issue. this machine could have the possibility to create black holes, strangelets, and of course dark matter.

now, all of these thing pose great threats to mankind. if not kept in proper environment.

all im saying is, could they not have asked before thy took such a risk!!!

like, they reckon that if they do create a black hole that steven hawkings radiation theories will hold up and the black holes wont be able to survive and will collapse.

but maybe im crazy, and its quite possible, has hawking not been wrong before???

anyways, its scary, its happening on the 28th may, and i for one am hoping they dont **** things up.:mad:

Jello

No.

Jesus Wept

There was me making plans for June. Egg on my face.

Black Swan

Look on the bright side of the black hole? Someplace to send our garbage?

Jackovarian

lol!

doubt anything bad will come of it though.

its just interesting is all

lot of scaremongering going on aswell. as always.

pretty cool if they do get it going tho. they are also planning on studying other dimensions.

could be a giant stargate?

Rb

As long as the US doesn't get it's hands on it, everything should be fine.

Beelzebub

It's a Fcuking Conspiracy I tell you.

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/080227-techwed-lcross-moon-smasher.html

chopperbyrne

If they end the world the day before my birthday there'll be hell to pay!

Ghost Train

better quit my job and start to do some living

kelle

And I was dreading turning 38 in June! Looks like I needn't worry...

brow_601

ah jees i'm goin too the rory gallagher festival the next day

Rhyme

Dark matter awesome <insert Final Fantasy fanboy joke here>

Adam

Rhyme wrote: »

Dark matter awesome <insert Final Fantasy fanboy joke here>

Leave me out of this

Dudess

kelle wrote: »

And I was dreading turning 38 in June! Looks like I needn't worry...

Shit, my birthday's May 18th so I'm gonna have to face turning 30 after all...

38? What's the big deal there? No different to 37... And you'll definitely miss your 40th so don't know what you're complaining about...

toiletduck

No, to quote wiki

One simple argument against such fears is that collisions at these energies (and higher) have been happening in nature for millennia without hazardous effects, as Ultra-high-energy cosmic rays impact Earth's atmosphere and other bodies in the universe.

I don't have a link but I read during the week that a bunch of other scientists are going to court to prevent it being fired up.

bleg

would those be "intelligent design scientists"

Wertz

There'd be a certain irony in the Swiss destroying the planet.
Also, I've always wanted to experience spaghetification, so flick the switch already...

leninbenjamin

meh... remember a fair few of the scientists who worked on the a-bomb thought it would ignite the atmosphere. have to take risks to progress i guess...

and OP you do realise this isn't the first particle accelerator?

CuLT

They're waiting for you, Gordon, in the test chamber.

thelordofcheese

CuLT wrote: »

They're waiting for you, Gordon, in the test chamber.

I never thought I'd see a resonance cascade. Let alone create one......

monkeyfudge

Should probably be more worried about ITER really...

Super Science is cool.

I was reading an article recently that said that because of the LHC this could be year zero for time travel... that it is it will be the earliest point in time that you could travel back to.. but it involves wormholes being created and us having the ability to control them in the distant future.

Einstein

pffftt...wikipedia...not true

ScumLord

They're covering up the true potential for disaster this machine could cause. There's a very real possibility it could create an giant evil mr staypuft the marshmallow man.

lafors

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Should probably be more worried about ITER really...

Super Science is cool.

I was reading an article recently that said that because of the LHC this could be year zero for time travel... that it is it will be the earliest point in time that you could travel back to.. but it involves wormholes being created and us having the ability to control them in the distant future.

My sister in law & her husband work in/for JET (on ITER).
I've never seen someone get more excited about science than him

btw he said ITER is perfectly safe. He knows more about that stuff than me so I believe him

Now back to LHC.....I thought there was a problem with it recently with something blew?

This is the most technical thing I've ever seen on after hours, it'll confuse the drunks tonight.

orestes

lafors wrote: »

This is the most technical thing I've ever seen on after hours, it'll confuse the drunks tonight.

I'm sober and it's confusing me now!

Could they not at least wait a couple of days until the Kilkenny comedy festival ends and then destroy the world?

Fremen

They kick up a fuss whenever scientists switch on a big new particle accelerator. This is the usual crap they churn out.

Interestingly, when the americans were testing the first atomic bomb, they thought there was a small chance that it would ignite the atmosphere, and kill everything. They tested it anyway. :rolleyes:

Edit: clicky

knird evol

Yeah but what you have to remember is that when the americans were testing the a-bomb there was a load of scientists who thought that it would ignite the atmosphere killing everyone.

Jackovarian

em, yeah i do realise there are many other particle accelerators out there. but not this powerful.

see, their arguement is that these collisions happen everyday in the atmosphere... bollocks!

THOSE INCIDENTS HAPPEN AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT! THEY ARE TESTING AT TEN TIME STHAT SPEED! also, if it was already happening why dont they send up a balloon or something to study it? im sure it would have costed less!


they are lying and taking a risk. sure its progress, but at what cost???


*before anybody comes back and says "ten times speed of light! dont be ridiculous", they should look it up. they are hyper accelerating particles using vacuum, the most extreme cold possible, and super magnets, one of which has ust broken!!!!! ohhh i feel so safe.*

biko

Stephen Petranek reveals the question that occupies scientists at the end of the day (and the beginning of happy hour): How might the world end? He lays out the challenges that face us in the drive to preserve the human race. Will we be wiped out by an asteroid? Eco-collapse? How about a particle accelerator gone wild?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9d65u3LfKs

astrofool

Jackovarian wrote: »

em, yeah i do realise there are many other particle accelerators out there. but not this powerful.

see, their arguement is that these collisions happen everyday in the atmosphere... bollocks!

THOSE INCIDENTS HAPPEN AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT! THEY ARE TESTING AT TEN TIME STHAT SPEED! also, if it was already happening why dont they send up a balloon or something to study it? im sure it would have costed less!


they are lying and taking a risk. sure its progress, but at what cost???


*before anybody comes back and says "ten times speed of light! dont be ridiculous", they should look it up. they are hyper accelerating particles using vacuum, the most extreme cold possible, and super magnets, one of which has ust broken!!!!! ohhh i feel so safe.*

Thats probably the most idiotic post I've ever had the displeasure to read in my 8 years on boards.ie

Take a bow.

Steve.Pseudonym

Einstein and Jackovarian are not friends.

is_that_so

Time to dig up that ... "If you had x week(s) to live ...?" thread. So how quickly would we all get squished or would we just be "annihilated" by bouncing off each other?

humbert

astrofool wrote: »

Thats probably the most idiotic post I've ever had the displeasure to read in my 8 years on boards.ie

Take a bow.

I'd say that's a bit harsh, but it's as good an example of fear through ignorance as I've seen!

JC 2K3

Jackovarian wrote: »

em, yeah i do realise there are many other particle accelerators out there. but not this powerful.

see, their arguement is that these collisions happen everyday in the atmosphere... bollocks!

THOSE INCIDENTS HAPPEN AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT! THEY ARE TESTING AT TEN TIME STHAT SPEED! also, if it was already happening why dont they send up a balloon or something to study it? im sure it would have costed less!


they are lying and taking a risk. sure its progress, but at what cost???


*before anybody comes back and says "ten times speed of light! dont be ridiculous", they should look it up. they are hyper accelerating particles using vacuum, the most extreme cold possible, and super magnets, one of which has ust broken!!!!! ohhh i feel so safe.*

Jackovarian

lol! thank you thank you! *bows retardedly*

hehe, ahh no.

i really just posted this thread to gauge other people reactions through scaremongering.

it is interesting how people dont care, and they are right, its hardly a world killer.

and i severly doubt they will create anything other than a loud bang. and in fairness, who gives a crap? so we will now know what happened way back when. wow...

so astro fool, calm down, unfurrow your brows and learn to relax ohh boards veteran. you have many years of complaining left in you before a black hole swallows you up! if at all! lol.


*i just realised, i love this place!*

humbert

The purpose of the LHC is not to recreate the big bang but to try and find the higgs boson, a particle postulated to exist by the standard model. Finding it would be a great triumph in our understanding of the universe and not finding it would bring our current understanding into serious question. So really it is a big deal.

AlmightyCushion

Jackovarian wrote: »

THOSE INCIDENTS HAPPEN AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT! THEY ARE TESTING AT TEN TIME STHAT SPEED!

Eh, last time I checked nothing can travel faster than the speed of light so that's not true. They will actually fire the protons at near light speed not ten times it so if that was what worried you, you can sleep easy.

Jackovarian

yes, but its not a big deal in the way its being portrayed by a lot of people. its not going to screw the planet.

i hope it works, but considering the set backs they have had due to broken parts it will probably only have a short working life, either that or it start becoming to expensive to repair.

ahh well, at least the swiss will have a new tourist attraction... not that they needed it.

Jackovarian

god sake guys i was joking!!!!!!!!

why does nobody read posts on here!!!!!

the closer you get to the speed of light the slower time gets relative to the object travelling... am i wrong here?
so yeah, ten times the speed of light would be impossible.

it was a joke! a lot of people on here need to lighten up!

humbert

Well, that's true. Also one other poster mentioned ITER, magnetically confined fusion is actually safer than traditional fission because if there is some catastrophic malfunction and the magnets fail the fusion reaction stops. The confinement is not to prevent a chain reaction but to encourage one.

monkeyfudge

Jackovarian wrote: »

it was a joke! a lot of people on here need to lighten up!

Bet I can lighten up 10 times faster than you can!

big_show

i'm not worried, sure if we all die then what odds? :pac: the bbc done a good documentery on this called the six billion dollar experiment, it was done with the november date last year in mind when it was originally supposed to be done.

Clytus

I find the whole thing fascinating....All we want to do is findout where we come from. I dont know very much about that sorta thing,bu isint true that if higgs bosons are discovered it will help with a grand unified theory?

thelordofcheese

monkeyfudge wrote: »

Bet I can lighten up 10 times faster than you can!

but only in a vaccum!

CCCP^

For **** sake, this is from Wikipedia?

barnicles

now 1st july

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

ThE_IVIAcIVIAIV

did you not die? we are all waiting for you

Pherekydes

Looks like it didn't happen.

But is anyone else feeling a slight tug in the direction of Europe?

dsmythy

It's only been started up. It will take a couple of months for the experiment to get going proper.

EDIT: It's going to be activated sometime in August and even then they are only tests.

FarmerGreen

I think that the presence of black holes in the universe is the proof of
intelligent extra terrestrial life.
Well, until the enquisative green buggers built a machine to make them.