Remove Potentially Racist threads?

roy123456789

I've noticed quite a few threads lately that are bordering on, or are simply Racist.
Should they be allowed?
I realise this is an "open" type forum but should there be limits?

twinQuins

Batten down the hatches, we've got one hum-dinger of a sh!tstorm inbound!

all the stars

no, opinions will always clash. Its all interpritive, what i consider racist you may not.. ya know?

Rob_l

Indeed if you find something offensive isn't the problem really yours for finding it offensive and if you do then dont look at it

ojewriej

Can you give any examples of racist threads?

Wertz

If they weren't allowed moderators would lock/delete/bin them...report what you have a problem with and see what happens...

New poll: Remove potentially pointless polls?

r3nu4l

In my opinion yes they should be closed.

Discussions on how people from other countries are inferior to us or worse than us because they are dirty, smelly, lazy, etc. should be too close to the bone for Irish people!!

Anti-Irish racism
Harpers weekly once compared the Irish to "Negroes" and said we should be extinct.

So any half-wit engaging in racism and thinking they are superior should realise that for a long time the rest of the "civilised" world thought we were "white-negroes" and "savages"! :rolleyes:

All of that said, the AH mods do a great job in balancing out these threads!

Voodu Child

I hate all races equally. Equality ftw!

twinQuins

all the stars wrote: »

no, opinions will always clash. Its all interpritive, what i consider racist you may not.. ya know?

Would you disagree that terms like n****r or ch**k are racist terms?

Discussions on how people from other countries are inferior to us or worse than us

Glad to see I'm not the only one sick of those threads.

You Suck!

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Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

r3nu4l wrote: »

In my opinion yes they should be closed.

Discussions on how people from other countries are inferior to us or worse than us because they are dirty, smelly, lazy, etc. should be too close to the bone for Irish people!!

Anti-Irish racism
Harpers weekly once compared the Irish to "Negroes" and said we should be extinct.

So any half-wit engaging in racism and thinking they are superior should realise that for a long time the rest of the "civilised" world thought we were "white-negroes" and "savages"! :rolleyes:

All of that said, the AH mods do a great job in balancing out these threads!

facts, historical or otherwise, have no place on after hours.

shame on you.

Slow Motion

OMG Potentially racist threads!:eek: Bollox to that, any thread has that potential all it requires is someone to post a racist remark on it, tell you what lets lock all the threads put boards.ie back in it's box and all go out to play:rolleyes:

Wertz

OP: define "potentially" racist threads...do you mean ban any thread which looks like it might turn into a thread where people posted racist remarks? Pre-emptive modding? I can just see Dudess now, hunched over her crystal ball with the mouse hovering over "Lock Thread"...

[edit] Slo Mo knows where it's at...

roy123456789

ojewriej wrote: »

Can you give any examples of racist threads?

From the first page, the following linked threads made me wonder, I guess it was the high ratio that made me wonder,


http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055263856

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055263560

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055263607


http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055263491

How Irish and Mexico Emo = death could have been included but that'd be pushing it to the limits

Schism

Slow Motion wrote: »

OMG Potentially racist threads!:eek: Bollox to that, any thread has that potential all it requires is someone to post a racist remark on it, tell you what lets lock all the threads put boards.ie back in it's box and all go out to play:rolleyes:

Awww do I have to? It's raining outside

Sniipe

OMG, pointless thread... 1 of those threads u pointed out could be racial, but I'm sure its being monitored (the first one)

Slow Motion

Schism wrote: »

Awww do I have to? It's raining outside

Yes! Yes you do! Friends in your head and on the internet aren't real or healthy!;)

ojewriej

I don't see any of them as racist. They have a potential to turn ugly, but they are not racist.

Not everything touching the subject of a relationship between different nations is racist.

Schism

Slow Motion wrote: »

Yes! Yes you do! Friends in your head and on the internet aren't real or healthy!;)

All my imaginary friends went out... without me, bastards :mad:

You Suck!

Hey maybe Dev or someone could just delete the database.......make all the racism go away. Or I hear that barney the dinosaurs a pretty good guy for race relations.....maybe he does consulting, Barney for mod?

Oh and this!

I hate all races equally. Equality ftw!

hugejeans

r3nu4l wrote: »

So any half-wit engaging in racism and thinking they are superior should realise that for a long time the rest of the "civilised" world thought we were "white-negroes" and "savages"! :rolleyes:

Exactly! now its our turn to dish out some racism!

Sherifu

pointless post in pointless thread .o/

Schism

Sherifu wrote: »

pointless post in pointless thread .o/

Your right, but I'd like to make a bit of a fuss as long as I'm here.

Seriously though I don't see the racism in those threads you listed, except maybe the romanian one.

Killaqueen!!!

You can't do anything these days without being racist..

I don't like black coffee

"OMG ur so lik racist!"

r3nu4l

Mordeth wrote: »

facts, historical or otherwise, have no place on after hours.

shame on you.

:eek: You're right, what was I thinking
/shakes head

Morkarleth wrote: »

Glad to see I'm not the only one sick of those threads.

They are pretty awful! Pointless and without any merit imo!

hugejeans wrote: »

Exactly! now its our turn to dish out some racism!

Not quite the point I was trying to make but now I see why so many religions interpret the same pieces of scrpture differently

You Suck!

Unfortunately modern soapboxs are now constucted from sheets of oversensitivtiy and glued together using modern selfrightous polymers thus leading a nauseating effect on people in the vicenity of its user.

YeatsCounty

r3nu4l wrote: »

In my opinion yes they should be closed.

Discussions on how people from other countries are inferior to us or worse than us because they are dirty, smelly, lazy, etc. should be too close to the bone for Irish people!!

Anti-Irish racism
Harpers weekly once compared the Irish to "Negroes" and said we should be extinct.

So any half-wit engaging in racism and thinking they are superior should realise that for a long time the rest of the "civilised" world thought we were "white-negroes" and "savages"! :rolleyes:

All of that said, the AH mods do a great job in balancing out these threads!

+1

Schism

You Suck! wrote: »

Unfortunately modern soapboxs are now constucted from sheets of oversensitivtiy and glued together using modern selfrightous polymers thus leading a nauseating effect on people in the vicenity of its user.

Well said, too many people have wafer thin skin nowadays.

Pherekydes

Wertz wrote: »

New poll: Remove potentially pointless polls?

All the Poles here are doing good, honest, worthwhile jobs. Remove pointless Irish/Dubs/northsiders/culchies*.



*Delete as appropriate.

r3nu4l

The Admins should do a deal with Stormfront, AH mods get to move racist, far-right neo-nazi type threads there and we get any threads they think are pinko, lefty-liberal, PC type threads

Kind of like an exchange program

biko

roy123456789 wrote: »

I've noticed quite a few threads lately that are bordering on, or are simply Racist.
Should they be allowed?
I realise this is an "open" type forum but should there be limits?

That's why we have moderators, to decide what stays open and what locks.

Wertz

lol at linked "racist" threads...only the first one about Romanian criminal gangs could be in any way construed as racist by right-thinking individuals. A big "WTF?" to the the one about the yank shooting his wife...how the hell is that racist...it points fun at American gun culture...we don't even know the race of the people involved. Just so we're clear American is not a race.

You Suck!

That's why we have moderators, to decide what stays open and what locks.

Isn't there a certain enjoyment to be had that our facists in residence crush racism.......hitler never saw that one comming!

Oh and this could be fun:

The Admins should do a deal with Stormfront, AH mods get to move racist, far-right neo-nazi type threads there and we get any threads they think are pinko, lefty-liberal, PC type threads

Kind of like an exchange program

I vote Karl gets to propose the deal

twinQuins

I think part of the problem is that it's not taken seriously any more. Even when a person is called out on their racism (and I mean actual racism), they whinge and complain, stamp their feet and soundly declare it's not and the critic is a liberal-do-gooder.
F*** sake, anytime racism is pointed out it's denounced as PC nonsense. How the hell are people meant to take it seriously when there's a core of those types ready to tear to shreds anyone who points out racism?

A lot of these "How do you feel about X nationality" are started with the intention of stirring sh*t and yet they seem to run their course instead of being nipped in the bud.
Tacit acceptance of racism much?

Pherekydes

r3nu4l wrote: »

...and we get any threads they think are pinko, lefty-liberal, PC type threads

They don't have any of these, as they usually require some type of thought. :rolleyes:

Slow Motion

Morkarleth wrote: »

I think part of the problem is that it's not taken seriously any more. Even when a person is called out on their racism (and I mean actual racism), they whinge and complain, stamp their feet and soundly declare it's not and the critic is a liberal-do-gooder.
F*** sake, anytime racism is pointed out it's denounced as PC nonsense. How the hell are people meant to take it seriously when there's a core of those types ready to tear to shreds anyone who points out racism?

A lot of these "How do you feel about X nationality" are started with the intention of stirring sh*t and yet they seem to run their course instead of being nipped in the bud.
Tacit acceptance of racism much?

For the second time on this thread I feel compelled to say bollox!

Morkarleth

Morkarleth wrote: »

Would you disagree that terms like n****r or ch**k are racist terms?



Glad to see I'm not the only one sick of those threads.

There's nothing wrong with the word chick.

And no, potentially racist threads should not be removed, but monitored, as they are- and monitored well too.

Neamhshuntasach

People are too sensitive these days. The world is much worse than a few peoples comments here and there. Get over it.

dsmythy

Eh.. remove racist posts or racist threads. Not potentially racist ones! End of the problem.

Dashticle

Deleted User wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with the word chick.

I hope you're being sarcastic but I'm not sure

Karoma

I'll read the thread later when you've had your say.
For me: I voted no to locking/removing "potentially racist threads". I'm not going to close a thread that has the potential to be racist. If it's an outright racist rant, maybe. I am not your moral compass. I am not the thoughtpolice. I believe every poster has the benefit of doubt (Within reason), and should be given a chance to express their views. If it' politically incorrect, or borderline racist - good. It's better that this stuff be discussed and debated and argued in a civil manner on-line.
I will continue to lock threads that are the product of a deranged mind that has fallen loose of its cranial cage and bounced off a keyboard a few times. I will lock threads that go around in circles on the matter. I will ban people who think AH is a platform for their racist crap / repeat idiots. I will lock threads and ban users who incite violence towards a minority.
A lot of the moderation of AH depends on you, the readers of After Hours - I don't want to decide whether a thread or post matches the criteria above. It's a subjective call, and I may get it wrong. Report posts / threads! We all operate within certain boundaries when we use Boards.ie (It's a private forum; it's Irish, it's hosted in Ireland and therefore bound by Irish laws; there are crtain moral, ethical and civil limits obeyed offline and online), everything else is up to you. We cannot please all of all of the time, so don't expect us to do what you want, but you sure as hell have your say.

cornbb

Drawbacks of removing such threads: impeding free speech, not letting the forum run its natural course, hard to know where to draw the line

Advantages of removing such threads: raise the average intelligence level of the place, raise the tone of the place, greatly lessen flame wars and the resulting bannings/lockings, save the rest of us from having to read such dumb drivel.

Latchy

Intresting to read in one of those girly mags this week (my partners ) about the girl from NI who whlie over on a vist to the uk recently was accused by a South African KFC employeee of making a rascist comment when she asked for her chicken to be ' not to spicy ' .This twat kicked up such a fuss in front of everybody in the store saying to the girl several times '' what did you just say to me ? '' that all the poor girl wanted to do was get the fook out of the place such was her humiliation at being called a rascist by a black employee who reported her . This was after she explained to the guy and his manager that her people from NI tend to speak quickly and was misunderstood .Had she being served by a white employee he/she most likley would have known exactly what the girl was asking for .Anyhows, the girl from NI was taken to court and the result ? - the judge threw the case out of court.

My own feelings about racist issues/threads is some peoples interpatations of what actualy being a rascist is which can vary from one person to another.In the case above it seems the shoe was on the wrong foot and either the guy misunderstood /was being paronoid or was using the race card .

If post needs to be moved for maybe being off topic then please do so .

Overheal

I dont mind it so long as theres reason to it. Saying all French people are x y and z, is generalising. Knowing 5, 10, or 50 x y and z frenchmen still does not excuse you to make those kind of remarks about the French as a whole. For example.

I mean I'm just as happy to ridicule american cultrue as anyone else for instance, but you wont hear me make broad-brushed generalisations. Obese people eat their children and hicks mistake handguns for hand-drills. That doesnt make all americans fat and moronic. Calling all americans tick, is offensive. Yes, I'm looking at you Real B-Man. I'm sure youve been cajoled about it though.

Dudess

Killaqueen!!! wrote: »

You can't do anything these days without being racist..

You Suck! wrote: »

Unfortunately modern soapboxs are now constucted from sheets of oversensitivtiy and glued together using modern selfrightous polymers thus leading a nauseating effect on people in the vicenity of its user.

Schism wrote: »

Well said, too many people have wafer thin skin nowadays.

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

People are too sensitive these days. The world is much worse than a few peoples comments here and there. Get over it.

Load of cock. Seriously, if someone posts about criminal Roma gypsies but just refers to them as "Romanians" and then goes on about the "bloody Romanians", calling that offensive and racist is not overly sensitive or overly PC. Being overly sensitive or overly PC is stuff like the following:

latchyco wrote: »

Intresting to read in one of those girly mags this week (my partners ) about the girl from NI who whlie over on a vist to the uk recently was accused by a South African KFC employeee of making a rascist comment when she asked for her chicken to be ' not to spicy ' .This twat kicked up such a fuss in front of everybody in the store saying to the girl several times '' what did you just say to me ? '' that all the poor girl wanted to do was get the fook out of the place such was her humiliation at being called a rascist by a black employee who reported her . This was after she explained to the guy and his manager that her people from NI tend to speak quickly and was misunderstood .Had she being served by a white employee he/she most likley would have known exactly what the girl was asking for .Anyhows, the girl from NI was taken to court

Or the way "Baa Baa Black Sheep" was changed to "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep".
Or the way a teacher in an American school was reprimanded for using the term "niggardly" (meaning: stingey, mean, cheap).
Or the way Santa impersonators in Australia can no longer say "Ho ho ho".

It's most idiotic to equate sensitivity about blatant racism to the above.

The one thing that annoys me as much as hypersensitivity is the insistence that taking reasonable offence is the same as hypersensitivity.

You Suck! wrote: »

our facists in residence

Yawn. When people moan about moderators (who are a necessary evil by the way) it strikes me that they just want to be moderators themselves. So go on, apply for a modship - you can do it...

Morkarleth wrote: »

I think part of the problem is that it's not taken seriously any more. Even when a person is called out on their racism (and I mean actual racism), they whinge and complain, stamp their feet and soundly declare it's not and the critic is a liberal-do-gooder.
F*** sake, anytime racism is pointed out it's denounced as PC nonsense. How the hell are people meant to take it seriously when there's a core of those types ready to tear to shreds anyone who points out racism?

My sentiments exactly. And lol at people who use the term "liberal" as an insult!

A lot of these "How do you feel about X nationality" are started with the intention of stirring sh*t and yet they seem to run their course instead of being nipped in the bud.
Tacit acceptance of racism much?

Well not really. I for one am more than happy to allow some ignorant twat show themselves up by mouthing off their pathetic, ill-informed, profoundly stupid generalisations here, in the knowledge that they'll get lambasted. Most AH users are decent folks. So, like Karoma says, until a thread with racist sentiments in it (there's a difference between that and a "racist thread") becomes utterly ludicrous, it stays open.
This is not a site that has a racist agenda so therefore, when a thread is started expressing racist, offensive sentiments, people will argue against it - in fact most people will. Those who agree usually just come across as dumb and not worth taking seriously anyway. Whereas the more intelligent people will actually post content that's worth reading.

Overheal

Or the way "Baa Baa Black Sheep" was changed to "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep".

..............wow.

Wertz

latchyco wrote: »

Intresting to read in one of those girly mags this week (my partners ) about the girl from NI who whlie over on a vist to the uk recently was accused by a South African KFC employeee of making a rascist comment when she asked for her chicken to be ' not to spicy '

Alright, WTF?
I have a fair bit of a nordie twang and no matter how many times I say that out loud, even trying it in a Belfast accent, fast slow, backwards...I don't get what this KFC muppet thought she heard. Anyone ellighten me? Additionally, LOL at someone coming over from SA and finding racial overtones in a food order.

Overheal wrote:

...Wow.

Seriously. The quicker space tourism becomes affordable the better...I'm getting tired of this planet...

Dudess

Wertz wrote: »

LOL at someone coming over from SA and finding racial overtones in a food order.

Yeah, he's obviously too young to remember a time when he would have landed in a police cell and been beaten to a pulp for speaking to a white person.
Kinda trivialises the horrors older generations of his family would have gone through...

AlmightyCushion

Overheal wrote: »

I mean I'm just as happy to ridicule american cultrue as anyone else for instance, but you wont hear me make broad-brushed generalisations.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=55493197&postcount=56

Emos aren't a race as such but that's still a generalisation so you're not as squeaky clean as you think. Personally I don't have much of a problem with generalisations. I'm sure I've probably made some myself as with everyone else but like Karoma said anyone who repeatedly posts racist crap will be banned.

Dudess

Karoma wrote: »

I am not the thoughtpolice.

You're... not?

Sherifu

Damn mods, always ruining our racism.