Botox

heavyheart

Am 25 , super over conscious of lines under and around my lines so much so you could say im obsessed , there all i see when i look in the mirror... considering botox ... any advice on the subject good bad or in different ?

Cathmandooo

You're only 25, why would you resort to such drastic measures so young?

Have you tried night cream? Is your diet good? Do you drink plenty of water and get regular exercise? I'd look into those points way before considering botox. Seriously. You could easily live for another 75 years, do you really wanna be injecting chemicals into your face for the rest of your life?

Edit: Are you eating enough? Sometimes people who are too slim can me lacking any fat in their face, giving them wrinkles.

WindSock

Botox looks stupider than wrinkles. You will never be able to smile again.

heavyheart

yea i think my diet is good , but i lived abroad for months and of course i was out every day trying to sun myself and i think i seriously did damage to my skin ....
im not talking about getting botox all over my face !! just around the eyes , doubt that will prevent me from smiling
I no its young to be thinking about it but have you ever been just so hung up about something to the point of it getting you down ??

heavyheart

heavyheart wrote: »

yea i think my diet is good , but i lived abroad for months and of course i was out every day trying to sun myself and i think i seriously did damage to my skin ....
im not talking about getting botox all over my face !! just around the eyes , doubt that will prevent me from smiling
I no its young to be thinking about it but have you ever been just so hung up about something to the point of it getting you down ??

I would get very down out this, I know you accept it when it happens, but I would be down about it for a while.

I know very little about botox, but I do know that frezzing one set of muscles affects the movement of the others. Preventing you from smiling and giving you wrinklings in odd places.

It doesn't seem to me that you have looked into this very much yourself Heart.
Which makes me wonder if you researched the alternatives?

There has to be skin treatments out there for sun damaged skin.
I'd try anything and everything before resorting to botox, because I feel that it changes the look of face.

I found this link about a clinic in Ireland.

http://beaut.ie/blog/?p=2332

prissylee

Heavyheart, I've just been thinking the same thing lately too and was about to put up a new thread on botox today! Thanks for starting it!
I have very noticeable wrinkles in between my eyes. One big long line bang in the middle and two either side. I am a bit obsessed about it too when I look at others who have no wrinkles in between their eyes. Most people my age might have some wrinkles showing across their forhead, but not between the eyes (I'm 29). I too have been considering botox. Would botox affect your smile wherever you get it done? (I think it is becoming more of an obsession for me cos I'm getting married this year... Another possiblity might be to maybe ask my photographer to elliminate my wrinkles from the photos? But I don't know would this be possbile and I might come across as being too vain if I request this!)

I do have a good enough diet, drink water every day (prob not enough though). I just don't know about night creams though. Do they really work?

Any other advice appreciated..

I don't think is so dependant on diet and hydration as much as expression, sun exposure and bone structure.
You can avoid some of the expressions by trying to avoid scowling at people :pac:, wearing sunglasses when driving or sleeping on your back.

One my friends got rid of her double chin with facial excersises.
I wonder if they might help frown lines too?

Maple

Dermalogica do a fantastic eye cream, Multivitamin Power Firm (Lip and Eye) that is great for wrinkles. They also do an Intensive Eye Repair cream which I haven't used but have heard great things about.

I'd look into things like the above before the botox.

justsomebloke

your 25 and thinking of getting botox, dear God what are you going to like when you are 35, 45 and so on if you have to resort to such measures now.

However as a Male I would have to say if you are prepared to go down this route already could I suggest going for a move the top boob job instead as truthfully nobody will look at the wrinkles on your head again

heavyheart

Oh Prissylee ... i feel your pain but creams ?? Dont get me started ...i have tried every cream under the sun even the most expensive ones claiming to have the botox effect but they never work ...

i do nothing but research botox moonbaby, believe you me , i know exactly how it works , ive even been and had a consultation done yet even though i no about the side effects , when i look in the mirror its still all i think about getting done ....
if there was an alternative facial or something that ACTUALLY works ?

heavyheart

jsb wrote: »

your 25 and thinking of getting botox, dear God what are you going to like when you are 35, 45 and so on if you have to resort to such measures now.

However as a Male I would have to say if you are prepared to go down this route already could I suggest going for a move the top boob job instead as truthfully nobody will look at the wrinkles on your head again

I no how insane it sounds , trust me i know....but everyone has there hangups eh ? But infairness your right ! If i got a boob job hell no one would look me in the eye again LOL

jsb

jsb wrote: »

your 25 and thinking of getting botox, dear God what are you going to like when you are 35, 45 and so on if you have to resort to such measures now.

Thats not really fair, everyone is going to be wrinkley at 35 and 45.
And most all people will have admitted defeat at that stage, as they will be beseiged by bits sagging and falling off.
It is different than facing the first ageing issue in your mid twenties.

heavyheart

It is different than facing the first ageing issue in your mid twenties.[/quote]

You so hit the nail on the head there .. since i turned 25 ive gotton all health food conscious and wrinkly conscious and i never used to be so obsessed about it .... me thinks im not dealing the the aging thing so great

prissylee

Yes, heavyheart I think I agree with you about the creams. I use an anti-wrinkle eye cream at the mo too for my eyes, but I don't think it's working.

Moonbaby - you're right too about it being more about expression, bone strucutre, etc. That's exactly why I have my lines between my eyes. I have sensitive eyes and have to wear the sunglasses in the car at times even when the sun isn't out but it's a bit glary. I also have a habit of tensing up my face alot and it's not just from frowning at people etc. I do it at work and am trying to make a more conscious effort of not being so tense. However, how can you change a habit of 10/12 years or it could be more...?!!

The massage advise is good, I think I'll try that....

Heavyheart - let me know if you ever find a good solution...

kevmy

Speaking from the male prospective it's a stupid idea for anyone younger than 35-40 getting Botox - even then it's not really a great idea.

It does very little for you and if you have Botox done guys will immediately assume you must be 40+. It will make you look older not younger or better.

Also most guys prefer girls who don't have their face full of chemicals with a perma frown on their head.

Guys don't really notice wrinkles anyway take my word for it. You have to be approaching Grand Canyon style features before we observe them.

Also consider the fact that most people agree that the only time Botox looks good is when you can't tell it's been done. If it's only good when you can't notice it been done then why do it?

kevmy

kevmy wrote: »

Speaking from the male prospective it's a stupid idea for anyone younger than 35-40 getting Botox - even then it's not really a great idea.

It does very little for you and if you have Botox done guys will immediately assume you must be 40+. It will make you look older not younger or better.

Well they do have a theory that by preventing the expressions botox actually prevents wrinkles if you start it early.
Which at this stage can neither be proved or denied.

But anyway the second part is ridiculious.

July

I've no idea if these work but they're supposed to 'flatten out' frown lines - www.frownies.com

Mrs_Doyle

Try Elizabeth Arden's Intervene Eye Cream. For a quick, temporary solution, for a special occasion or whatever, you could try clarins Instant Smooth, or Beauty Flash Balm.

If you start getting botox now, when will you stop? Or will you use it forever?

I Often wonder how much damage long term users are doing to their facial muscles.

DetectivFoxtrot

Cathooo wrote: »

You're only 25, why would you resort to such drastic measures so young?

Have you tried night cream? Is your diet good? Do you drink plenty of water and get regular exercise? I'd look into those points way before considering botox. Seriously. You could easily live for another 75 years, do you really wanna be injecting chemicals into your face for the rest of your life?

Edit: Are you eating enough? Sometimes people who are too slim can me lacking any fat in their face, giving them wrinkles.

+1

you shouldn't be worrying about this at all. Lines give your face charachter. I'm 28 an am starting to get them round my eyes - i'm not saying I like them but they don't bother me one bit!

Other posters are right in saying check out your diet, especially your water intake. Putting poison in your face is an extreme I would steer clear of unless the problem was really bad and there were no other options....

One piece of adivce I would give you to prevent wrinkles is ALWAYS wear a high factor moisturiser (even in winter). It's a myth that only sun ages your skin, daylight does, and there's rays from the sun all year round even though the sun may not be shining. I use clarins multi active day lotion - factor 25 every day of the year. It's brill.

I think you'd notice botox and that is worse than having lines imo. Nicole Kidmans face practically does not move now when she smiles - she took it too far... and don't get me started on Mrs. Beckham.... The thing is though, I'd say it's fairly addictive. You'd want to keep getting it done as soon as the muscles loosened becuase you'd notice a difference even those others mightn't. You shld spend your money on something else, new expensive make up perhaps to reduce the look of the lines? much cheaper and far less invasive..

DetectivFoxtrot

DetectivFoxtrot wrote: »

becuase you'd notice a difference even those others mightn't. You shld spend your money on something else, new expensive make up perhaps to reduce the look of the lines? much cheaper and far less invasive..

Actually it is only 285 euro and lasts up to 6 months. Preety cost effective.

prissylee

July - I really appreicate you putting up that link for frownies.com. It sounds like a good, natural solution. I've bought some of their FBE pads now, so hopefully they'll work!

Heavyheart - I'll report back here in say two months and let you know how I got on. By the way how do you feel now about getting botox done? I'm def not going down that road now, it's too risky really..

heavyheart

prissylee wrote: »

July - I really appreicate you putting up that link for frownies.com. It sounds like a good, natural solution. I've bought some of their FBE pads now, so hopefully they'll work!

Heavyheart - I'll report back here in say two months and let you know how I got on. By the way how do you feel now about getting botox done? I'm def not going down that road now, it's too risky really..

Hmmmm i dont think ill ever stop thinking about it BUT i am gonna try a facial or some alternative creams , maybe try the Dermalogica and see how i get on with that . So ill be reporting back also !!! Best of luck

prissylee

heavyheart wrote: »

Hmmmm i dont think ill ever stop thinking about it BUT i am gonna try a facial or some alternative creams , maybe try the Dermalogica and see how i get on with that . So ill be reporting back also !!! Best of luck

Hi Heavyheart,

Just sent you private message there. But just reporting back generally. I tried the Frownies patches and they didn't work. So anyone out there thinking about trying them - they're not worth it. Prob should've known they wouldn't work as they didn't cost the earth. Am now checking out Botoina and have just bought Botoina 3000 plus the day cream. Anyone tried this stuff? Not feeling very sure about it, but have only used it two nights so far.

monkeyfudge

I've never been able to get my head around the fact that there are people who will willingly infect themselves with botulism and pay for the privilege.

It's a very strange world.

Sugar Drunk

Hi, i know what you mean im 27 and hate seeing the lines creeping up! two things that might be worth trying before botox ive tried them and its worked for me!:
1. frownies. these work. bits of brown paper stuff that you lick and stick to your wrinkle areas. sounds mad but they work and lots of hollywood actresses use them
2. Drink loads of water and try the montangue Jenuesse overnight face serum stuff. Its meant to contain enough for 3 nights but theres enough in it for 6. only 2 or 3 euro I have been using this for the last week and my skin looks so much better already its brilliant.

I do however plan to get botox in my thirties as I can see frown lines develooing same as my mums. prevention is better than cure and im not one to growold gracefully im afraid. I know two women who have botox and it looks amazing you would never ever guess!

Call Me Jimmy

For the people suggesting to drink loads of water; while it does no harm, it's unnecessary as it has been shown that we get enough water from our food and that we need very little extra water, no where near the 8 glasses a day that most people assume.

OP, at 25 it's very hard to imagine you having proper wrinkles, and I would be almost certain that no guys would even notice them or be bothered in the slightest. However, you obviously notice them and are bothered by them but I would say botox at 25 seems very extreme but each to her own.

prissylee

Sugar Drunk wrote: »

Hi, i know what you mean im 27 and hate seeing the lines creeping up! two things that might be worth trying before botox ive tried them and its worked for me!:
1. frownies. these work. bits of brown paper stuff that you lick and stick to your wrinkle areas. sounds mad but they work and lots of hollywood actresses use them
2. Drink loads of water and try the montangue Jenuesse overnight face serum stuff. Its meant to contain enough for 3 nights but theres enough in it for 6. only 2 or 3 euro I have been using this for the last week and my skin looks so much better already its brilliant.

I do however plan to get botox in my thirties as I can see frown lines develooing same as my mums. prevention is better than cure and im not one to growold gracefully im afraid. I know two women who have botox and it looks amazing you would never ever guess!

I'd be interested to know where you have your wrinkles Sugar Drunk, cos Frownies def didnt go anything for me. I tried them out for the 30 days that they suggested and I saw no difference. So I didn't bother after that. Perhaps you have very fine lines. I have deep enough furrows in between my eyes and haven't found anything yet to cure it.

Anyone got fillers done?

do you love it?

Cathooo wrote: »

You're only 25, why would you resort to such drastic measures so young?

Have you tried night cream? Is your diet good? Do you drink plenty of water and get regular exercise? I'd look into those points way before considering botox. Seriously. You could easily live for another 75 years, do you really wanna be injecting chemicals into your face for the rest of your life?

Edit: Are you eating enough? Sometimes people who are too slim can me lacking any fat in their face, giving them wrinkles.

youre too young to use a night cream, a light serum is all you should use if anything.
night creams can be too heavy on your skin.
do see a dermatologist.
the aging process only start at 25 so you need to pace yourself!

panda100

heavyheart wrote: »

Am 25 , super over conscious of lines under and around my lines so much so you could say im obsessed , there all i see when i look in the mirror... considering botox ... any advice on the subject good bad or in different ?

Heya Heavyheart. My sister is a dentist who has just started administering botox and lip fillers to patients. She had to practise on my mum and until you actualy see botox first hand you dont realise how horrific it is. My mum cant wrinkle her forehead,its looks plastic and unnatural!Not a good look!

Go read 'The beauty myth' by naomi Klein. Your 25,go out and enjoy your life and dont be worrying about having a few beautiful lines on your face

prissylee

panda100 wrote: »

Heya Heavyheart. My sister is a dentist who has just started administering botox and lip fillers to patients. She had to practise on my mum and until you actualy see botox first hand you dont realise how horrific it is. My mum cant wrinkle her forehead,its looks plastic and unnatural!Not a good look!

Go read 'The beauty myth' by naomi Klein. Your 25,go out and enjoy your life and dont be worrying about having a few beautiful lines on your face

Hey Panda,

I have deep lines in between my eyes and thinking about getting fillers done. Can you tell me anything about them? (I can live with the lines around my eyes, etc but these deep furrows, I would just love to get rid of them.)

thanks!

ams

OP if you do get it done you can discuss with the therapist (or whatever you call the person that injects you!!) what sort of a look you are going for. You dont have to have a solid forhead if they go easy on the stuff. It only lasts for a few months so if you do try it and don't like it its not the end of the world.

M veis

I would like to get botox too as I'm in the 45 age group thankfully bit haven't started to fall off yet, but I do have lines on my forehead and frown lines between my eyes, does anyone have a good clinic they use?

NickyNin

Most salons these days do it. Try Toni & Guy MetroSpa. Discuss prices first as they are negotiable and he always starts at the top end. I know he does botox and fillers.

If you are young and thinking about Botox (and 25 is young), try to get a little as possible done. They do try to talk you into more and you can get carried away. I’ve been getting it done for a year now and no one has asked me if I’ve had Botox. I think it’s great but expensive. The key is to keep it as natural as possible.

Botox ALSO tightens the muscles that you have injected – while that’s great at 45, we can all see young girls who get it done and look permanently surprised (not to name names).

You can send me a private message if you want more details.

Curlypinkie

^^^^^^^^^^ AAAAh don't do it in a hair salon for crying out loud!!! Would you have your hairdresser filling your teeth? It's that kind of precision!!!

At 25 I don't think botox should be on the cards yet. I know some poeple claim the earlier the better (as in preventing wrinkles) but to be honest, it is a poison you are injecting so you need to be aware of the future problems this could give you.
So I would go against that opinion and say the later the better. After you had your kids etc.

A very good alternative is pure collagen.
I wanted to go down the botox road but thought about it and decided not too. Just yet.

BTW, no bloke would notice the difference in a 25 - 30 year old woman's face if she's had botox done or not. FACT.

NickyNin

All Botox in Ireland is administrated by a Doctor.

CocoBeans

Metro Spa - I hated it! I went to the Metro Spa and the Doctor had jumped up the prices, when I complained - he started to name drop Irish Celebrities he had done - what happened to Confidentiality? I won't be back