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Playing Amhrán na bhFiann at the end of a Gig?

  • 26-03-2008 2:58pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    Im curious to know dose any DJ play the Anthem at the end of a Gig? Depends on the venue I would be playing I would sometimes have to put it on to make a statement that the night is over.


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Maybe in the super cheesey country dissgooo's but you would never ever hear it in any reputable bar or club


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭just pete


    interesting topic.... I always play it but hate doing so ,I am irish and I do love my country and all that other stuff but it just pisses me off having to play it at the end of a night. If you dont play it then all the drunkin fools proceed to the dj booth to wreck my head about it....:mad: I only play the last 20 seconds anyway, and still find the complaints roll in.

    One manager asked me not to play it at the end, dont know what his reason was but i was not complaining.

    When the ugly lights come on, they should know its time to go home :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    I have an Eire Og version, usually goes down well in country pubs and bike rallies. The cops came in one night to shut the show down, they were very arrogant, I had pleasure cranking up the volume and playing the full length of this tune. They wouldn't dare tell me to lower the volume :)


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Seriosuly? Wow. Ok I have only ever been to a few clubs outside Dublin, but I only ever remember it being played once or twice in my life, and that would have been down the boglands.

    Someone try it in POD, Tripod, Traffic etc and see what happens ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭just pete


    @Zascar

    Your dead right, towns outside the citys love the flippin thing. All standing, arms behind the back roaring it out facing the booth.

    aaaaaaagh gives me crabs!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Been asked *not* to play it by managers more often than I've been asked to play it. Have a copy on me but would usually try to judge the crowd. And generally not play it.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I can imagine it being played at a typical country pub, but please tell me no respectable DJ would actually consider playing it after a proper night of house/techno/electro etc etc

    Would they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    In the hills of Donegal, possibly. One of the places I was asked to play it was a trance night up there...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭just pete


    had you a trance mix of it ? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    I was asked to play it three times in a row by the manager of a pub in Tipparary at a 21st because a few guys were chatting and wouldn't stand up! they finally got the hint!.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭just pete


    thats like people coming up to you asking you play a song again coz they was out in the smoking area - tough luck princess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    just pete wrote: »
    had you a trance mix of it ? :D

    You've me tempted now... *heads to Logic Studio*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭hamsterboy


    The pub covers band I play in had this problem recently.....got a gig out in a place that would have made Craggy Island look like a cosmopolitan metropolis.... None of us had played it..together anyway...so we just stuck on the iPod we had at the ready........was so tempted to have "Ghost Town" queued up :)

    HB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Seanie M


    Finally managed to persuade the last manager of a venue to NOT make me play it in the club. I haven't played it before then excpet at weddings (because it is both customary and in most cases expected). Otherwise, I don't play it, don't like playing it, and I think it is sad to play it - patriotism or not.

    Seanie.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    A room full of drunk people is not an appropriate place to play our anthem, despite my pride in the anthem and my country I don't think it should be done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭unclebill98


    I only Dj weddings. SO i have to be careful of whom I am playing it too. If both bride and groom are Irish then I do. If one or both ain't then it depends. Gotta be careful if your close to the boarder etc.

    Its a great way to end the night and to signal "Its all Over". Only been asked not to play it once or twice but in general it always goes down well. I've played it all over the country but i agree for normal nights out its not played....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    i always forget about this whole thing until i head down the sticks.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think it is completely inappropriate to play the national anthem at the end of a night out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    I only Dj weddings. SO i have to be careful of whom I am playing it too. If both bride and groom are Irish then I do. If one or both ain't then it depends. Gotta be careful if your close to the boarder etc.

    Its a great way to end the night and to signal "Its all Over". Only been asked not to play it once or twice but in general it always goes down well. I've played it all over the country but i agree for normal nights out its not played....
    I was at a wedding near Newry Co Down at the height of the troubles, was interested to see what Anthem would be played, in the end it was left it out altogether!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭DJ_Spider


    I am from the UK and if we played the national anthem we would probably gotten lynched! I was surprised when i first went to my local and heard it. I did stand of course as I didn't want to offend anybody and I would expect the same from anyone in my country.

    I have played it at a few gigs I used to do out in Skerries, but usually the older ones, not a 21st! The gigs I do at the strand house on north strand I play it, but I have an american guy who did a voice over for me saying 'ladies & gentlemen, that concludes tonight's entertainment, would you please stand for the national anthem' LOL I don't do any MCing as most people there just want to dance, sing or fall over and wouldn't appreciate and englishman waffling!

    It's great, turn up, play for 2hrs, no talking, get paid, go home! :D The good thing about using MP3s is you can see how long the song has got before the end! At least I know when I can turn everything off!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,797 ✭✭✭sweetie


    I don't play Amhrán na bhFiann at all and have never been asked for it and play lot's of gigs throughout leinster. I always hated hearing it whenever I was out but it's handy to have a copy somewhere if your client requests it.

    I've been finishing gigs with 'don't stop believing' recently and it goes down great. Did a mate's wedding on monday and thought I had till 2.30 for the set but the owner told me to finish up at 2 so I dragged it out a bit and finished with Journey on loop for about 8 minutes. He was freaking but couldn't do anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭unclebill98


    I was at a wedding near Newry Co Down at the height of the troubles, was interested to see what Anthem would be played, in the end it was left it out altogether!


    Exactly, you can open a can of worms if you have the wrong crowd. If in doubt I would never play it. Any time I did play it I had not an ounce of trouble. Most Hotels take it for the cue to turn on the lights etc.

    Must try Journey to finish, most give N. Diamonds "Sweet Caroline". Think I'll change it for the years gigs...

    I've had to play funky German Folk/Techno music, that was gas....

    Oh and Faithless Insomnia too....I enjoyed that one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Exactly, you can open a can of worms if you have the wrong crowd. If in doubt I would never play it. Any time I did play it I had not an ounce of trouble. Most Hotels take it for the cue to turn on the lights etc.

    Must try Journey to finish, most give N. Diamonds "Sweet Caroline". Think I'll change it for the years gigs...

    I've had to play funky German Folk/Techno music, that was gas....

    Oh and Faithless Insomnia too....I enjoyed that one.
    I would have no hesitation playing the Anthem in the 26 counties and have done so despite what I thought of the crowd or pub landlord.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭senan s


    mark kavanagh was playing in a club just outside dundalk, years ago, and at all these gigs in this club they always played the nation anthem, but he didn't and bottles were being throwing up at the DJ box :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    DJ_Spider wrote: »
    The good thing about using MP3s is you can see how long the song has got before the end! At least I know when I can turn everything off!

    I believe CDJs have done that since day one, as do the majority of even cheap-arse all-in-one deck/mixer units... Generally it requires tapping a 'time' button!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭jonny68


    Pleaseeeee folks FFS there's a time and place for our National Anthem and at Club/Rave nites is not one of them period.:eek::eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    jonny68 wrote: »
    Pleaseeeee folks FFS there's a time and place for our National Anthem and at Club/Rave nites is not one of them period.:eek::eek:
    It is you want everyone to shut up for a few minutes and then go home :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,797 ✭✭✭sweetie



    Must try Journey to finish, most give N. Diamonds "Sweet Caroline". Think I'll change it for the years gigs...

    I've had to play funky German Folk/Techno music, that was gas....

    Oh and Faithless Insomnia too....I enjoyed that one.

    give it a go anyhow, you won't regret it...

    My weirdest memory is of playing romanian music at a wedding in meath. The groom (romanian) was going to make a cd for me to play some stuff from but he lost it and luckily one of his guests had some stuff with them. Mad! They all got in a circle and were kicking their legs out and shouting. Reminds me of that russian dance with the guys with the folded arms. Have pictures on my phone of it still :D The irish guest spent most of their time outside smoking so I played over an hour of the stuff.

    As for djing weddings in america...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 205 ✭✭Prefabsprouter


    I wouldnt play it in a pub or club EVER. But at private functions I have especially after I got threatened by a group of lunatics out of their faces on ecstasy. Having a group of angry men in your face calling you a "Rangers Scoombag" and an "Orange Bol#%x" as you try to leave is not what I want at a gig. And also there were no bouncers around to back me up. I have learned since then that if you want to end a night its a great way of letting drunk people know you are finished. Mind you the best finishing tune I heard was the DJ in "Toast" in Rathmines who used to play the "Duelling Banjos" theme from Deliverance. Great way to finish!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    "Duelling Banjos" theme from Deliverance. Great way to finish!
    That track will only get them back out on to the floor again, the whole idea of a finishing tune is to get them leave the venue, Something from Daniel O'Donnell would be more appropriate :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 205 ✭✭Prefabsprouter


    I have found that either Art of Noise "Moments in Love" or The Orb's "little Fluffy Clouds" can work a treat in getting people out of a Pub!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭disc


    was payed for 3 months just to play the national anthem , yeah we had guest dj's in and i had to stand around til the end of the night just to play the anthem


    but i don't play it now , i don't even have it in my case , i wouldn't even play it at a weddings ,

    i always thought it was silly , and had an ass lecture me on how we fought the brittish just to play the anthem at the end of a disco , :D:D:D

    oh the place was full of polish people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭Executive Steve


    can't believe this still goes on to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    A room full of drunk people is not an appropriate place to play our anthem, despite my pride in the anthem and my country I don't think it should be done.

    Here here (unless said room is a pub lounge pre match. Even then it should be on tv only :) )

    Dont get me wrong, I like the anthem at the right time. International matches, boxing etc etc (one of the reasons I cant put any national pride into rugby is the anthem thing tbh, tell the nordies to get over themselves or else set up their own team!). Country nightclubs with ropey armed cnuts who think/wish they are in the IRA is not the place to do it. Any regular nightclub (i.e. not a trance night, house night, just your local type) should end on some dance classics, if they dont the DJ isnt worth a sh1t tbh.
    sweetie wrote: »
    I've been finishing gigs with 'don't stop believing' recently and it goes down great.

    :rolleyes:

    Why did the Sopranos

    a- Have to go out on such a sh1t ending

    b- Have to resurrect a song that nobody had even heard in 25 odd years and restore it to national anthem status

    Still though, in conclusion the only places Ive ever heard it is down the sticks or dives in Dublin that are like down the sticks pubs/clubs in exile (Coppers etc etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,797 ✭✭✭sweetie


    shane86 wrote: »
    Here here (unless said room is a pub lounge pre match. Even then it should be on tv only :) )

    Dont get me wrong, I like the anthem at the right time. International matches, boxing etc etc (one of the reasons I cant put any national pride into rugby is the anthem thing tbh, tell the nordies to get over themselves or else set up their own team!). Country nightclubs with ropey armed cnuts who think/wish they are in the IRA is not the place to do it. Any regular nightclub (i.e. not a trance night, house night, just your local type) should end on some dance classics, if they dont the DJ isnt worth a sh1t tbh.



    :rolleyes:

    Why did the Sopranos

    a- Have to go out on such a sh1t ending

    b- Have to resurrect a song that nobody had even heard in 25 odd years and restore it to national anthem status

    Still though, in conclusion the only places Ive ever heard it is down the sticks or dives in Dublin that are like down the sticks pubs/clubs in exile (Coppers etc etc)

    /digression

    a- some people liked the ending of sopranos

    b- some people like the song


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭unclebill98


    National Anthem is expected at the end of a Wedding...... Thats a fact. Every other type of gig I'd not bother unless asked...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    I'd say it probably goes back to the times of Dances and Ceili's and Showbands. But it really doesn't finish off a club night well. There's a time and a place for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    DJ_Spider wrote: »
    I am from the UK and if we played the national anthem we would probably gotten lynched! I was surprised when i first went to my local and heard it. I did stand of course as I didn't want to offend anybody and I would expect the same from anyone in my country.

    I have played it at a few gigs I used to do out in Skerries, but usually the older ones, not a 21st! The gigs I do at the strand house on north strand I play it, but I have an american guy who did a voice over for me saying 'ladies & gentlemen, that concludes tonight's entertainment, would you please stand for the national anthem' LOL I don't do any MCing as most people there just want to dance, sing or fall over and wouldn't appreciate and englishman waffling!

    It's great, turn up, play for 2hrs, no talking, get paid, go home! :D The good thing about using MP3s is you can see how long the song has got before the end! At least I know when I can turn everything off!

    Will you make an exception for the Ninja Karaoke and at the end of the night announce:

    'Ladies and Gentlemen, please stand for the National Anthem' and then play this song?



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭DJ_Spider


    Ha HA! Maybe I'll play Dustin instead! :eek: :eek: :eek:


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Will you make an exception for the Ninja Karaoke and at the end of the night announce:

    'Ladies and Gentlemen, please stand for the National Anthem' and then play this song?


    Mates a DJ and we always get him to do it, nobody knows whats going on with about three lads standing there hands on chest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,463 ✭✭✭run_Forrest_run


    playing the National Anthem at the end of a gig just belittles the song and ourselves. It takes a bunch of goons 10 pints of beer to suddenly take pride in their country to stand up and sing the song at 2 in the morning...nonsense, keep it for meaningful occasions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    shane86 wrote: »
    Any regular nightclub (i.e. not a trance night, house night, just your local type) should end on some dance classics, if they dont the DJ isnt worth a sh1t tbh.

    Did you read that in "DJ'ing for Dummies"? What a load of rubbish. The DJ should finish on whatever is suitable for the night/crowd.

    What's your definition of a "dance classic" btw?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭sur_1_nuage


    I m not Irish, no disrespect at all but I think it is ridiculous! Never seen that anywhere else!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭Halfdog


    I have already replaced Amhran na bhFiann with Rzeczpospolita. Theres enough of them here. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭DJ_Spider


    Halfdog wrote: »
    I have already replaced Amhran na bhFiann with Rzeczpospolita. Theres enough of them here. :D

    I used to do birthday parties in Tommy Bahamas in Skerries, they used to have a regular Polish DJ doing polish music nights! :D Today Ireland, Tomorrow the world! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭unclebill98


    forgot to say, I was doing a wedding and I was about to play the national anthem when I just thought I'd check it and low and behold with about 20sec to spare I had cued up Radioheads National Anthem..... Balls!! Almost made a mess of that gig!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    I've never heard the National Anthem played in a club in Dublin.
    The idea seems completely ridiculous to me actually.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Agreed. You'd never hear it in any 'real' club - and imo any DJ 'worth his salt' as said above, would simply refuse to play it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dellboy2007


    I agree with the majority of the posters in that it is wrong to play it. The country has become multi-nationalised. Think about it this way if you were in england + you heard "god save the queen" and people looked at you with disgust if you didn't stand up for it what would you be thinking? I'm not just saying it coz of the whole "tans out" ****, even the eastern europeans get dirty eyes coz in my town if they don't stand up. It's pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,816 ✭✭✭unclebill98


    I do think its agrees that wedding dj'ing its ok. I agree that a non-wedding event its just plain wrong....


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