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Bugging device found
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25-03-2008 2:11am#1
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A sophisticated bugging and tracking device has been unearthed in the vehicle of a member of the Dublin 32 County Sovereignty Movement. The device was secreted internally into the dashboard of the vehicle and was equipped with its own self contained power supply. The manner by which the device was installed strongly suggests that those who planted it took considerable time to effect this and was obviously professionally done. The device bears English Manufacturing Labels but as of yet it is uncertain whether it originates from a British, Irish or joint British/Irish intelligence source. Suffice to say that the unearthing of yet another intelligence gathering device clearly illustrates that the war against those who articulate the right of the Irish people to National Sovereignty continues in government(s) circles. The individual 32CSM member involved has sought legal advice on the matter. The 32CSM reiterates our call for all republicans to be diligent in the face of these insidious attempts to undermine the republican struggle. British Parliamentary activity in Ireland takes many forms.
Dublin 32CSM 24/03/08
Rossibaby- attribute your source for the above post please.
Also, lol. Bugged by their cars anti-theft device! Most cunning indeed! I have tinfoil hats going cheap which the 32csm might be interested in. This week only!
What a bunch of clowns
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GoodA sophisticated bugging and tracking device has been unearthed in the vehicle of a member of the Dublin 32 County Sovereignty Movement.
ExcellentThe device was secreted internally into the dashboard of the vehicle and was equipped with its own self contained power supply.
The Brits maybeThe manner by which the device was installed strongly suggests that those who planted it took considerable time to effect this and was obviously professionally done.
Ah yes, those pesky BritsThe device bears English Manufacturing Labels but as of yet it is uncertain whether it originates from a British, Irish or joint British/Irish intelligence source.
And thank God the surveillance/ intelligence war continues, otherwise .......... what do you want? another Omagh maybe? :mad:I thought you Suffice to say that the unearthing of yet another intelligence gathering device clearly illustrates that the war against those who articulate the right of the Irish people to National Sovereignty continues in government(s) circles.
Good for him :rolleyes:The individual 32CSM member involved has sought legal advice on the matter.The 32CSM reiterates our call for all republicans to be diligent in the face of these insidious attempts to undermine the republican struggle. British Parliamentary activity in Ireland takes many forms.
Dublin 32CSM 24/03/08
Well, all I can say is that 'Thank God' the security forces on both sides of the border are cooperating & keeping tags on these little buggers (freedom fighters) & their sad little ' republican struggle' against something that really only exists within their own little heads
The days of planting (or even planning) Bombs in the name of 'so called' Irish freedom are well & truly over, thanks to 9/11, so take a reality pill & expect every move made by the 32CSM to be infiltrated/ spied upon/ scrutinised/ bugged/ & surveyed for the good of the rest of us who want nothing to do with them or their movement.
Most of us voted for the GFA which recognises the North's right to exist within the UK ...............0 -
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So some guy in the 32CSM buys a used car with a tracker device fitted and it is a plot by MI6. I think the biggest issue here is the guys ego Hi didn't buy one of the 5000 cars that Thorn had fitted with the device did he?
this is ****ing hilarious stuff.0 -
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Looks like you are not getting much sympathy or respect for your 32CSM here Rossibaby
im not a supporter of nor member of the 32s...
i didnt expect support on this west-brit forum nor did i crave it...its a discussion forum and i was willing to discuss it...but seems this board is very anti-republican and a perfectly LEGAL organisation should be constantly under surveillance from the gardai and psni in your eyes?i just don't get some people,they are blind to other points of view...alot of people here are very elitist and won't except other opinions...its like a dictatorship here with the mods hating everything republican ffs...its a discussion forum so please accept two points of view...than you.and conorirl i know your not my mate,and i doubt if you met me or republican activists like me you'd feel comfortable in the same room let alone be 'mates'.but don't worry you're on a level playing field and quite comfortable behind your pc.if people here have such strong political believes why dont you go out and do somethign about it,instead of venting frustration of unknown source to me on this yoke. i use the word mate sometimes, get over it,its not meant in the literal sense as im sure you'd claim to be intelligent enough to realise.
to answer another point made...the 32csm arent a political party,why would they be upset about missing out in elections they dont even stand in or want to.the ignorance here beggars belief.here i am defending and quoting policy of a movement that i dont even support:p0 -
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a perfectly LEGAL organisation should be constantly under surveillance from the gardai and psni in your eyes?
If they are suspect and there is appropriate legal oversight, yes.
To take the political slant off it: would you support the surveillance of suspected drug dealers?i just don't get some people,they are blind to other points of view...alot of people here are very elitist and won't except other opinions...its like a dictatorship here with the mods hating everything republican ffs...its a discussion forum so please accept two points of view...
I don't think they/we're blind to the republican point of view and there is certainly more than one point of view here. You're still here aren't you? They/We just find the (militant) republican point of view to be abhorrent/stupid/backward/wrong/unreasonable. (delete as appropriate).
It's hardly elitist to evaluate someone else's viewpoint, find it lacking and then reject it, is it?than you.and conorirl i know your not my mate,and i doubt if you met me or republican activists like me you'd feel comfortable in the same room let alone be 'mates'.
I used to work with (and got on reasonably well with) a Sinn Fein campaigner/proto-politician. We spent many a long hour in the same room and he didn't make me feel uncomfortable. (Yeah, yeah, I know it sounds exactly like the "but I have a friend that's gay" routine, if you don't believe me PM me and I'll give you the background.)but don't worry you're on a level playing field and quite comfortable behind your pc.
:rolleyes:if people here have such strong political believes why dont you go out and do somethign about it,instead of venting frustration of unknown source to me on this yoke.
I do, I vote.i use the word mate sometimes, get over it,its not meant in the literal sense as im sure you'd claim to be intelligent enough to realise.
I know it's not meant in the literal sense. Just when I hear (or read) it it makes me think of some cheesy, stereotypical cockney. It just grates on my nerves. Surely some people have habits that irritate you? Do you ask them to stop or do you just put up with it?here i am defending and quoting policy of a movement that i dont even support:p
In fairness, even I quoted from their constitution. As for defending them, I suspect you're doing it because you share at least some core values with them. 0 -
If they are suspect and there is appropriate legal oversight, yes.
To take the political slant off it: would you support the surveillance of suspected drug dealers?
I don't think they/we're blind to the republican point of view and there is certainly more than one point of view here. You're still here aren't you? They/We just find the (militant) republican point of view to be abhorrent/stupid/backward/wrong/unreasonable. (delete as appropriate).
It's hardly elitist to evaluate someone else's viewpoint, find it lacking and then reject it, is it?
I used to work with (and got on reasonably well with) a Sinn Fein campaigner/proto-politician. We spent many a long hour in the same room and he didn't make me feel uncomfortable. (Yeah, yeah, I know it sounds exactly like the "but I have a friend that's gay" routine, if you don't believe me PM me and I'll give you the background.)
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I do, I vote.
I know it's not meant in the literal sense. Just when I hear (or read) it it makes me think of some cheesy, stereotypical cockney. It just grates on my nerves. Surely some people have habits that irritate you? Do you ask them to stop or do you just put up with it?
In fairness, even I quoted from their constitution. As for defending them, I suspect you're doing it because you share at least some core values with them.
the only thing i have in common with the 32csm is that i am a republican socialist.but we differ greatly,first of all my party is marxist,the 32csm are not... the 32csm are linked to an active republican militant organisation....which i agree is backward and even harms republicanism because the people dont want it.my party disagrees fundamentally with the 32csm on this as our armed wing are on ceasefire for over ten years now.this is because we believe the people don't want armed resistance...do you see the major differences?
i defend them because they have no members on here to fight their corner against what i see as many anti-republicans.you say people here are critical and analyse republican points and reject them...this is often not the case,when you brand active republicans murdering b******* and criminals who do it for their own gain and kill for fun,i must take exception to it.if people argue politically and not just call us backward thinking headcases then i will engage in that.
but calling republican terrorists is not debating,its insulting.which is why i use terms such as west-brit to counteract it.even you can see the anti-republican sentiments for example,go to the eirigi thread and where a moderator questions in one of the opening posts should he let this thread get air time...that is censoring people's views,it's like a case of small man syndrome on a power trip...this is not a dictatorship...go look at the post:p0 -
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the only thing i have in common with the 32csm is that i am a republican socialist.but we differ greatly,first of all my party is marxist,the 32csm are not... the 32csm are linked to an active republican militant organisation....which i agree is backward and even harms republicanism because the people dont want it.my party disagrees fundamentally with the 32csm on this as our armed wing are on ceasefire for over ten years now.this is because we believe the people don't want armed resistance...do you see the major differences?
The core values I was talking about was the broad area of republicanism, not violent republicanism nor the other political differences. I didn't mean to imply that your sect was a violent one. I'm sorry if I caused offence. (Just to get things straight, you're in the IRSP right?)
That said, I do consider any party/movement with an "armed wing" (declared/admitted to or not) to be highly suspect even if the "armed wing" is on a ceasefire.i defend them because they have no members on here to fight their corner against what i see as many anti-republicans.
Since the 32CSM are so small I wouldn't expect them to have anyone here.
I'd say the breakdown here is roughly consistent with the makeup of the population. My gut feeling says that there are more socialists here than in the general population, but that could be a figment of my imagination.but calling republican terrorists is not debating,its insulting.
True, to a point.
"Republicans are all terrorists." -> False, insulting.
"Many republicans condone at least some republican terrorist acts." -> Fair comment.which is why i use terms such as west-brit to counteract it.
:rolleyes: Two wrongs don't make a right.even you can see the anti-republican sentiments for example,go to the eirigi thread and where a moderator questions in one of the opening posts should he let this thread get air time...that is censoring people's views,it's like a case of small man syndrome on a power trip...this is not a dictatorship...go look at the post:p
Feedback is that way
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Erm .... the famines would have happened anyway and did so not because some evil-machavellian-imperialist-new-world-order-filthy-captalist-PEEEG scheming but because the Irish diet was heavily reliant on potatos.
Surely the famine is the fault of the British, if Sir Walter Raleigh hadn't brought the potato back from S America, the Irish wouldn't have become dependent on it 0 -
A sophisticated bugging and tracking device has been unearthed in the vehicle of a member of the Dublin 32 County Sovereignty Movement.
Christ - One can only hope that it was designed to start recording when anything actually subversive was said.
Can you imagine the poor rookie cop who drew the short straw and had to listen to the interminable anti-brit bellyaching?
Probably like modding politics. 0 -
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