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Mobile Broadband under LINUX

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 1,336 Mod ✭✭✭✭croo


    @Sporadic
    sounds like you are nearly there!
    first time I tried I had a similar experience but the problem was the DNS was not being auto set .... I set them manually in the profile configuration of the vodafone VMC software and then it worked perfect. You'll probably find the necessary DNS IP numbers on the THREE website.

    @ Chrisgtk
    how much did all your new software cost? I'm curious how much I'm saving using openoffice, taskjuggler, dia & umbrello, freemind, amarok, no virus checker not needed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭An Fear Aniar


    Agreed. Linux has a long way to go to meet the userability of XP.

    Linux is already there - it's the hardware manufacturers that are holding Linux back by not providing Linux drivers because they can't be bothered or are too scared of Microsoft.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭Trotter


    My linux 901 is driving me bonkers. I just can't understand it. My O2 modem works fine but only when I go through the connections tab at the bottom of the screen.

    Everytime I plug in the modem, the Asus Phone Connection screen pops up. If I wait for it, it sets itself up with the O2 details. After clicking connect, it just goes to dialling and gets stuck.

    I now have to close that window everytime I plug in the modem and reconnect using the network connections tab.

    Is there any way of getting the Asus Phone Connection to do the job so it just connects properly?


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Agreed. Linux has a long way to go to meet the userability of XP.
    And yet, when I was forced to use XP for an hour yesterday, I repeatedly had to control the urge to put my fist through the screen. XP has a long way to go to meet the useability of Linux.



    Or, just maybe, it's a question of what you're used to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    For example: I wish to install something on XP.

    Step one: Double click

    Step two: Have a cuppa


    On Linux?

    Step One: After downloading what seems to be the exact architecture you need, you needlessly enter some command line nonsense only to find that Linux is telling you that you dont own an AMD64, despite the fact that a quick visual inspection disproves this ludicrous claim.

    Step Two: Go to several forums asking questions, which can take days to find an answer.

    Step Three: In the end, after receiving no useful help, I simply downloaded every single version of the software, and one-by-one tried to install them all. 'Wow, it turns out I have an Intel after all, thanks Linux! :rolleyes: '

    As I said, XP is easier to use.


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  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    For example, if I wish to install something on Linux, I type "sudo apt-get install <something>", and I don't even have time to make a cuppa; it's just there.

    If I want to install something on Windows, I have to find it, download it, quite possibly pay for it, double-click it, click "next" half a dozen times, then have a cuppa.

    On a more topical note: to use mobile "broadband" under Windows I have to install a bloody great bloated application. To use it under Linux I plug it in, wait a few seconds, then set up a dial-up connection using the modem that Linux auto-discovered and -configured, then connect.

    As for finding out what type of CPU you have: I just typed "cat /proc/cpuinfo", and it told me I have an Intel Core2 Duo running at 266MHz.

    Last night I needed to copy a file from my Linux desktop at home to the Windows PC I was using elsewhere. I had to download PuTTY to log on to it and find the file, then I had to download pscp to copy the file over. On the plus side, if I hadn't had Linux on this desktop, I don't know how I would have begun to get a file off it.

    Neither is "easier" to use; it depends what you're used to. I moved from Windows to Linux a few years ago. I still know how to do everything on Windows, but it annoys the hell out of me trying to do it. I know how to do everything I need to do on Linux, and it just runs more smoothly - for me.

    Take a computer novice and get him up to speed on Linux; take another and get him up to speed on Windows. Then swap them around - they'll both flounder, but I guarantee the Linux user will get more annoyed more quickly at how frustrating it is to try to do simple things that Linux users take for granted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,569 ✭✭✭ethernet


    For example: I wish to install something on XP.

    Step one: Double click

    Step two: Have a cuppa


    On Linux?

    Step One: After downloading what seems to be the exact architecture you need, you needlessly enter some command line nonsense only to find that Linux is telling you that you dont own an AMD64, despite the fact that a quick visual inspection disproves this ludicrous claim.

    Step Two: Go to several forums asking questions, which can take days to find an answer.

    Step Three: In the end, after receiving no useful help, I simply downloaded every single version of the software, and one-by-one tried to install them all. 'Wow, it turns out I have an Intel after all, thanks Linux! :rolleyes: '

    As I said, XP is easier to use.
    In most cases, this is not how to install software in Linux. Your package manager won't offer updates to software installed in this way. It's best to use the software in your distro's repositories. apt-get install <app_name> has been mentioned in response to your post above. Other distros have similar methods of installing software, such as zypper install <app_name> or emerge <app_name> to name just a handful. All this could also be done through the graphical version of the package managers.

    I'm not a fan of Xandros. The version on the EEE is hardly a vanilla Linux install in any case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    As for finding out what type of CPU you have: I just typed "cat /proc/cpuinfo", and it told me I have an Intel Core2 Duo running at 266MHz.

    Last night I needed to copy a file from my Linux desktop at home to the Windows PC I was using elsewhere. I had to download PuTTY to log on to it and find the file, then I had to download pscp to copy the file over. On the plus side, if I hadn't had Linux on this desktop, I don't know how I would have begun to get a file off it.

    Must be an old PC - mines "Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz" :p

    I use winscp instead of pscp when I've to copy something over from my Linux box at home to my XP pc in work.
    But nowadays I just find it easier to use FreeNX to log into my home PC graphically from work. I'm sure this is possible in Windows somehow but it can't be easier to set up than NX.
    Hey look what I did there - that's three different choices. And I'm certain there's other choices too to do the same thing - all down to personal preference. Linux = choice. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭An Fear Aniar


    On Linux?

    Step One: After downloading what seems to be the exact architecture you need, you needlessly enter some command line nonsense only to find that Linux is telling you that you dont own an AMD64, despite the fact that a quick visual inspection disproves this ludicrous claim.

    Step Two: Go to several forums asking questions, which can take days to find an answer.

    Step Three: In the end, after receiving no useful help, I simply downloaded every single version of the software, and one-by-one tried to install them all. 'Wow, it turns out I have an Intel after all, thanks Linux! :rolleyes: '

    As I said, XP is easier to use.

    I think your post gives a misleading impression of Linux (or at least the distro I use - Ubuntu). It sounds like you were trying to install a 64-bit program on a 32-bit system????

    In my experience of using Ubuntu, 99% of what I install can be done easily with a point and click interface and it takes a just a few seconds. There are some cases where if you want to install something a bit more bleeding edge or not supported, you have to issue commands in the terminal - but even then it's not complicated.

    The greatest things about installing new software in Linux is:

    No license fee (30 day trial bull****). once I download I can use it with complete freedom.

    No extra bloatware (Install Google Toolbar?) No, I didn't ask for that.

    Microsoft isn't watching my every move.

    No random unintelligible .dll type error messages.

    Mostly, I don't have to go to a website to install something - I can do it all from my desktop.

    I have many many choices - all of them free.

    I don't have to restart my machine every time I install something - the only time I have to restart is if there's a kernel update.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭beazee


    thanks for clearing that instalation process out
    Probably have a word or two this evening when i get three/ o2 broadband with me home

    have a read: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm

    before you start comparing Windows to Linux
    Linux won't be Windows and it is not trying to be.

    One who's driving motorbike do not expect a motorbike to drive like a car!


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,913 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    I have a Linux Eee PC900. I received and tried out today an O2 / Huawei E270 USB modem.

    Booted up. Plugged the modem in. Light flashed a bit. No action. Went into Network Connections. Picked modem. Searched Networks. Picked Network. Entered PIN. Got GPRS Connection. Slow, but works.

    146 kb/s Down / 66 kb/s Up / Ping 546 ms

    Simple enough for me. :)

    Will try it out in various locations to see what the signal is like. O2 has always been a bit ropey inside the house here (Lucan), but as my PAYG 02 card in my Nokia E61 is unable to work in 3G mode, I've no idea what the 3G signal is like around the place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭ambasite


    does Ubuntu 8.04.1 come with gnome-ppp? have tried to configure gnome-ppp with Xubuntu 8.04.1 & Ubuntu 7.10 without success. Kubuntu 7.10 could not detect my 3 USB modem.

    Linux is driving me up the walls :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Velcrow


    Acer Aspire One
    Linpus Linux ( based on the Fedora 8 core)
    Vodafone 3g E172 Stick Modem

    I use the vodafone mobile connect software and the E172 modem stick is recognised - but I don't know what username password or apn host settings to enter.

    Can anyone help here!

    Velcrow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 mosel


    If you are interested in background information about the process of dialling out over a wireless broadband modem, have a look at the following blog article:

    http://linuxcoaching.eu/kerry_linux_help_center/2009/04/getting-outahere---explained.html

    Enjoy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 smeg_for_brains


    Using firefox on Linux Mint, I simply set my SE W910 to act as modem, then connected to the computer. Then on Firefox settings, ticked the box "automatically detect proxy settings" and it worked straight away.


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