Universal Animal Stak

the_future · 21-03-2008 1:41am #1

hey, was just wondering if anyone has any information they deem useful on this product, or animal m stack. ive been training for years. my diet etc. is perfect when at best, so im not a supplement hog. ive been trying to research it, but i cant seem to find a great deal of opinions, etc.

also, i know it should no longer be for sale in this country, but i have noticed, there are exceptions to these sort of things quite a bit. hence, does anyone know if it is in fact available anywhere in dublin?

Hanley · 21-03-2008 1:53am

No, of course you can't get it. It's illegal don't you know??

Your best bet is to talk to the shop owners and ask them if they know anyone that you could get it off, but of course this is highly illegal and should not be done.

the_future · 21-03-2008 2:03am

Hanley wrote: »

No, of course you can't get it. It's illegal don't you know??

Your best bet is to talk to the shop owners and ask them if they know anyone that you could get it off, but of course this is highly illegal and should not be done.

yes, of course. would you happen to have any necessary info on the product itself. side effects are an obvious concern for me, and from my to date research, some of the supposed ones seem rather extreme. i have yet to find anyone of reputation online with a valid opinion on the product.

yomchi · 21-03-2008 10:43am

Hey there,
we did sell it at one stage. All I will say is it was our best seller!
Its a tribulus based combination, resulting in increased testosterone production.

Some side effects I've heard of-
Underpants being ripped, dogs leaving home, the wife getting off work early, problems standing up on buses, and over all small strength gains.

crotalus667 · 21-03-2008 11:06am

Jon wrote: »

Some side effects I've heard of-
Underpants being ripped, dogs leaving home, the wife getting off work early, problems standing up on buses, and over all small strength gains.

:Dlol:D:D

ps
the_future is female going by the only other thread the account has posted on I dont think stak is ment for girl's

Jimmy Bottlehead · 21-03-2008 11:12am

crotalus667 wrote: »

:Dlol:D:D

ps
the_future is female going by the only other thread the account has posted on I dont think stak is ment for girl's

No, Future is male!! I can verify this

crotalus667 · 21-03-2008 11:15am

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

No, Future is male!! I can verify this

ok I'll take your word for it , (Just dont tell me how you verifyed it

)

Jimmy Bottlehead · 21-03-2008 11:23am

crotalus667 wrote: »

ok I'll take your word for it , (Just dont tell me how you verifyed it )

Hahaha. He's basically wondering (hypothetically of course, no-one is endorsing buying an illegal product, it's very very bold) did Animal Stak 2 (or M-Stak) produce good effects, and if there were any negative side effects.

farva · 21-03-2008 11:48am

A mate of mine was doing this a couple of months ago and made no secret of it so I assumed that it wasnt illegal. I'm actually quite suprised to hear that it is illegal! I can find out where he got it from if you want.

The stuff didn't seem to have much affect on him, he didn't really gain much mass. He was taking it with Animal Pack, Cyclone, Protein and something else, possibley creatine with a total of 3 shakes and 27 pills a day!!!! I think that the Animal Stak is 8 or 10 different pills a day and it smells RANCID, like gone off pedigree chum or something!!!

g'em · 21-03-2008 11:57am

Animal Stak II is a frickin' multivitamin and a pretty expensive way to turn your pee all sorts of funky luminous hsades of green and yellow. Its high levels of B vits and trib stick it on the IMB prohibited list though.

The original Stak had prohormones and ma huang in it, but with those banned by the FDA it became discontinued. Am I right in thinking there's a European and a US version of Stak II? Or am I thinking of Animal Pak?

Jimmy Bottlehead · 21-03-2008 12:10pm

g'em wrote: »

Animal Stak II is a frickin' multivitamin and a pretty expensive way to turn your pee all sorts of funky luminous hsades of green and yellow. Its high levels of B vits and trib stick it on the IMB prohibited list though.

The original Stak had prohormones and ma huang in it, but with those banned by the FDA it became discontinued. Am I right in thinking there's a European and a US version of Stak II? Or am I thinking of Animal Pak?

You're thinking of Animal Pak, the vitamin and mineral Universal product. And it also turned my pee neon yellow when I tried it before.

This is Animal Stak II (Animal Stak did indeed get banned for prohormones, so it was reformulated)

http://www.animalpak.com/html/sections.cfm?id=56

crotalus667 · 21-03-2008 12:12pm

g'em wrote: »

Am I right in thinking there's a European and a US version of Stak II? Or am I thinking of Animal Pak?

Your thinking of pak but that was a rumour there was only ever one (the us) thee confusion came when the imb left a load of it in a few shops

g'em · 21-03-2008 12:17pm

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

You're thinking of Animal Pak, the vitamin and mineral Universal product. And it also turned my pee neon yellow when I tried it before.

The yellow is from excess B complex in your system. Hilarious and harmless.

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote:

This is Animal Stak II (Animal Stak did indeed get banned for prohormones, so it was reformulated)

So Stak II is just a (questionable) test-booster with added vitamins??

Jimmy Bottlehead · 21-03-2008 12:19pm

g'em wrote: »

The yellow is from excess B complex in your system. Hilarious and harmless.

So Stak II is just a (questionable) test-booster with added vitamins??

To be honest, I'm as curious as The_Future to know what it does, and how it would effect the user.... although I cannot purchase this product and have no plans to do so

g'em · 21-03-2008 12:22pm

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

To be honest, I'm as curious as The_Future to know what it does, and how it would effect the user.... although I cannot purchase this product and have no plans to do so

rofl, how well behaved of you!!

You may also want to look into ZMA, Biotest's Alpha Male, pumpkin seeds and lots of squatting.

Jimmy Bottlehead · 21-03-2008 12:28pm

g'em wrote: »

rofl, how well behaved of you!!

You may also want to look into ZMA, Biotest's Alpha Male, pumpkin seeds and lots of squatting.

Well being blunt about it, I doubt I'll be trying anything as potentially potent (heh, great phrase) as Stak, Alpha Male, or otherwise. I'm sure you'll be glad to know that I'm aching to blitz my body in the Fitness challenge g'em, with just protein, creatine and glutamine to help me along, with buckets of good food

the_future · 21-03-2008 1:15pm

anyone aware of any negative side effects however? some of the ones ive seen "advertised" online seem a bit drastic.

ps. no im not a girl.

Hanley · 21-03-2008 1:19pm

With the original pro-hormone version I can only imagine you're leaving yourself open to similar but less potent side effects that one might find with real anabolics.

With the new version, since it's not as potent probably wouldn't have as many sides.

Oh and btw, call the feds, it has Beta-Ecdysterone in it!!

the_future · 21-03-2008 1:22pm

crap, wont be touching it so. almost as bad as thash creeeateeeeen shtuff de kids are takin dees daysh. it has nuclear radiashion in it you know, Mary.

yomchi · 21-03-2008 2:02pm

Just a small point, its not classed as illegal - as in Cannibis is illegal, Cocaine is illegal. Its classed as a medicinal product. Tribulus terrestirus is a medicinal product perscribed by doctors for male impotency and other illnesses.
Selling it without perscription is illegal in this state.
Importing it without license is illegal and if caught at customs, expect to deal with the IMB over it.

the_future · 21-03-2008 4:49pm

is it true the only reason it was taken off the shelves in ireland, is because it contains tribulus? is there nothing else in it more "extreme" than tribulus, that our wonderful country deems to be "unsafe"?

Hanley · 21-03-2008 5:00pm

Ya gotta watch out for those vitamins too. Look at them the wrong way and they'll cut ya!!

the_future · 21-03-2008 5:05pm

yes, if were up to me, i would have oranges along with any fruit taken off the shelves, and replaced with beer. lots of beer, vodka and cigarettes.

Hanley · 21-03-2008 5:06pm

the_future wrote: »

yes, if were up to me, i would have oranges along with any fruit taken off the shelves, and replaced with beer. lots of beer, vodka and cigarettes.

I think that's actually the IMB's mandate.

the_future · 21-03-2008 5:10pm

yes, but only right after they ask the permission of the 16 year old rugby players who are like the buddhas of the bodybuilding world.

Roper · 21-03-2008 5:55pm

You're all slagging and having a great time, but I was walking by the canal the other day and I looked down to see 5 or 6 lads in rugby jerseys shooting up on Animal Stak, or AS as they call it now. It was a terrible sight, one of them had a smudge on his Springboks jersey and another one had scuffed dubes. Shocking. While they were there a reporter form the Herald was negotiating with them for an exclusive and she was offerring them syringes full of creatine if they'd give her a few comments for her next article. The poor desperate lads took them.

Shocked and dismayed I was.

Hanley · 21-03-2008 6:05pm

God I hope it wasn't that creapure stuff from Germany she gave them. That **** is so potent it'll straight up kill ya. The dodgy chinese creatine that they cut with flour and baking soda to reduce the toxicity is MUCH better.

the_future · 21-03-2008 6:20pm

Roper wrote: »

You're all slagging and having a great time, but I was walking by the canal the other day and I looked down to see 5 or 6 lads in rugby jerseys shooting up on Animal Stak, or AS as they call it now. It was a terrible sight, one of them had a smudge on his Springboks jersey and another one had scuffed dubes. Shocking. While they were there a reporter form the Herald was negotiating with them for an exclusive and she was offerring them syringes full of creatine if they'd give her a few comments for her next article. The poor desperate lads took them.

Shocked and dismayed I was.

id take it too if i was them..... maybe then i could bump my arm size up to 9 inches, and perhaps make my appauling 3 inch range of motion exercises do something! desperate times calls for desperate measures for that journalist. you need to get the most reliable sources possible, and lets face it. those lads know their ****.

yomchi · 21-03-2008 7:18pm

You're all slagging and having a great time, but I was walking by the canal the other day and I looked down to see 5 or 6 lads in rugby jerseys shooting up on Animal Stak, or AS as they call it now. It was a terrible sight, one of them had a smudge on his Springboks jersey and another one had scuffed dubes

years ago we used to call them skid marks...

WHIP IT! · 22-03-2008 12:50am

Jon wrote: »

Just a small point, its not classed as illegal - as in Cannibis is illegal, Cocaine is illegal. Its classed as a medicinal product. Tribulus terrestirus is a medicinal product perscribed by doctors for male impotency and other illnesses.
Selling it without perscription is illegal in this state.
Importing it without license is illegal and if caught at customs, expect to deal with the IMB over it.

Why did you look at me when you said that?? It was one time! ONE TIME!!

Universal Animal Stak

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