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Good Friday - no drink - acceptable now?

  • 20-03-2008 1:28am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering does anyone have a problem with not being able buy drink on Good Friday? I consider myself Catholic but think this is OTT. What do you think? Perhaps you think its good. Less thugs running around feulled on alcohol for one night?


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    It's pointless. If it had never happened it would be a normal Friday night where some people might go to the pub for a few or whatever. But because you can't drink everyone stocks up on booze the night before and gets extra wasted on good Friday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    As far as I'm concerned, it's only one fcking night and if people can't go without for one night of the year, then they've a massive problem to address.

    What's even more unfortunate is that people feel the need to go out and get absolutely bollocksed the next day, as if to make up for not being able to the day before.

    I'm not aware of the reasons for the prohibition of alcohol for the day, or the background behind it, but I don't really care either. It's an idiot test as far as I'm concerned, and anyone who goes out the next day to make up for not being able to the night before deserves anything that happens to them.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    I dont want them catlics imposin their ideas of when and when not to drink on my athiest ass. Its actually really dumb. But think of the family run bar. Those poor people get two days off a year.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    I dont want them catlics imposin their ideas of when and when not to drink on my athiest ass. Its actually really dumb. But think of the family run bar. Those poor people get two days off a year.

    Yeah but Catholic or not you will notice a sharp run down in violence on Good Friday - surely that tells you something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    Got to spend last Good Friday in the pub,the majority of the pubs in Melbourne were closed but a few got exemptions.
    Seeing as i was working in a pub at the time(one which was closed ).The management put on a staff party for us seeing as we had just dealt with paddy's day and the formula one...but imo,it's only one day,,,if ppl cant deal without the beer/pub for that day,they got a problem.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    It's pointless. If it had never happened it would be a normal Friday night where some people might go to the pub for a few or whatever. But because you can't drink everyone stocks up on booze the night before and gets extra wasted on good Friday.

    Lord graciously hear us.

    I did my "stocking up" tonight and went a little extra crazy. TWELVE DUTCH!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Yeah but Catholic or not you will notice a sharp run down in violence on Good Friday - surely that tells you something?

    Please do expand, my alcohol-destroyed brain cannot grasp your implication!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭IanCurtis


    Its something different I suppose.

    Gives the bar staff a night off...where's the harm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    rb_ie wrote: »
    As far as I'm concerned, it's only one fcking night and if people can't go without for one night of the year, then they've a massive problem to address.

    What's even more unfortunate is that people feel the need to go out and get absolutely bollocksed the next day, as if to make up for not being able to the day before.

    I'm not aware of the reasons for the prohibition of alcohol for the day, or the background behind it, but I don't really care either. It's an idiot test as far as I'm concerned, and anyone who goes out the next day to make up for not being able to the night before deserves anything that happens to them.

    Agreed. It's one day out of the year, surely people can abstain for ONE day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭IanCurtis


    jackncoke wrote: »
    Got to spend last Good Friday in the pub,the majority of the pubs in Melbourne were closed but a few got exemptions.
    Seeing as i was working in a pub at the time(one which was closed ).The management put on a staff party for us seeing as we had just dealt with paddy's day and the formula one...but imo,it's only one day,,,if ppl cant deal without the beer/pub for that day,they got a problem.

    All that just to tell us you were in Melbourne :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    It's one day folks. Deal with it. It's a quirk of Ireland. Tradition, even if the original point of it is lost. Besides it's the second long weekend in a row. You have Saturday, Sunday and even Monday to do what you gotta do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    IanCurtis wrote: »
    Its something different I suppose.

    Gives the bar staff a night off...where's the harm?

    The bar staff don't work every single other night of the year...

    The issue isn't that people can't go without it, it's that the pubs close for a Christian holiday in a supposedly secular state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    Im pretty sure if Jesus was still around he'd be getting locked with the best of 'em on Good Friday. He was a great man for the drink, turning fish into wine etc. It's sacrilegious i tells ya..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Personally I am not bothered as I wont be drinking anyway but I do feel it is a stupid law. If pubs want to close then fine but leave the option of opening at least. As pointed out people get absolutely tanked at home because they cannot go out. The off license on Holy Thursday always resembles a war zone.
    IanCurtis wrote: »
    Its something different I suppose.

    Gives the bar staff a night off...where's the harm?

    God bless the bar staff who work every other single night of the year. They don't get any days off like the rest of us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    rb_ie wrote: »
    As far as I'm concerned, it's only one fcking night and if people can't go without for one night of the year, then they've a massive problem to address.
    Agreed. It's one day out of the year, surely people can abstain for ONE day.

    It's nothing to do with abstaining. I abstain regularly (as in I don't drink every night) but I do have a problem with the church telling me when I can't drink or what I can eat. Dinner on Friday will be a huge big **** off steak with a gallon of good wine. And that'll be after a nice fry for breakfast and some snacks during the day - take that black fast! :D

    So in answer to the OP - no it's not acceptable now. Ireland is no longer a purely Christian country and these out-dated laws should be repealed.
    darkman2 wrote: »
    Yeah but Catholic or not you will notice a sharp run down in violence on Good Friday - surely that tells you something?
    Yeah - it tells me that the City Centre is shut down. The scum will make up for it the next day. One day off for them just recharges them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    He was a great man for the drink, turning fish into wine etc.

    Brilliant :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Makes no difference to me, only one day like.

    I'll be drinking anyway at a mates gaf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭bitemybanger


    Im probably going to have a big kebeb or burger or some form of delicious meaty treat that i usualy treat myself to most Fridays and wash it down with a few cans i have stored in the fridge and probably forget its good Friday at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    Macros42 wrote: »
    It's nothing to do with abstaining. I abstain regularly (as in I don't drink every night) but I do have a problem with the church telling me when I can't drink or what I can eat. Dinner on Friday will be a huge big **** off steak with a gallon of good wine. And that'll be after a nice fry for breakfast and some snacks during the day - take that black fast! :D

    So in answer to the OP - no it's not acceptable now. Ireland is no longer a purely Christian country and these out-dated laws should be repealed.


    Yeah - it tells me that the City Centre is shut down. The scum will make up for it the next day. One day off for them just recharges them.

    I agree with ya.
    The church doesen't affect me anyway, why should they decide?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Holsten wrote: »
    Makes no difference to me, only one day like.

    I'll be drinking anyway at a mates gaf.

    Drinking Holsten?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Lordsnutchi


    but jebus is alive and well at da top o connell straze


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Fremen


    Agreed. It's one day out of the year, surely people can abstain for ONE day.

    It's not a matter of whether we CAN or CAN'T, it's the fact that we're forced to for religious reasons: in my case, someone else's religious reasons.

    If catholics don't want to drink on good friday, that's just fine. I don't think any of the "just one day" crowd would be too happy if we were forced to abstain on Hanukkah, or some day during ramadan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Lordsnutchi


    its just archaic bs, look at the constitution, we still recognise jebus/god as our holy ruler


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭robby^5


    Saying people have a problem if they cant abstain for ONE day has nothing to do with people not liking the fact that Catholic beliefs are imposed upon them and they cant go out for a drink on Good Friday.

    Its absolutely nonsense in this day and age, and really only gives people an incentive to go out and buy and stock up on drink before Friday.

    What if your 21st happened to be this Friday? little unfair no? I don't go out Friday nights, but its really not fair to people who would be out, and its also shít to say "deal with it its just for one day" when for a lot of people, its a night out they look forward to all week, I know when i was working full time in a really shít job I couldn't wait for Friday just to go out and do something!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Drinking Holsten?

    Doubt it, althought whatever I'm drinking it will be out of a Holsten glass! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I rarely go to the pub these days, so it doesn't bother me.
    I have worked most of the good Friday's for the last ten years, so I wasn't going to drink then anyway. I'll be working tomorrow too.

    In saying that, it is archaic.
    It's a Catholic thing and that really has no place in modern Ireland.
    I know some pub owners do support it, but I'm fairly certain that most would not like this being imposed upon them.

    At the end of the day, if someone wants drink, they know how to get it.

    In other news, I'm about to crack my fourth can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Is it actually illegal to sell alcohol tomorrow though or do pubs and off licenses just go with the status quo?

    It would be very hard to prosecute someone based on religious reasons surely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    It is illegal.

    Certain places are exempt though.

    Hotels can serve their patrons nad I think some restaurants have wine licences. Wine gives you a really bad hangover though.

    Oh yeah, airports and train station bars.
    Not sure about busaras.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    I'm sure its in the Licence somewhere.


    How about places Giving away Booze? like, buy a steak dinner, get 4 pints?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Nature Boy


    Is it actually illegal to sell alcohol tomorrow though or do pubs and off licenses just go with the status quo?

    It would be very hard to prosecute someone based on religious reasons surely?

    Yes it is actually against the law.

    I think this law is extremely dated and there should be no provisions in law for religious beliefs (except for one to allow people to practice them if they choose to).
    I don't think that people who are not catholic should be forced to not drink on good Friday just cos some guy in a dress said it was wrong.

    To anyone who said "We can live without drink for one day". Yes of course this is true but the point is that we shouldn't be forced not to on one particular day. Pubs should have a choice whether to open or close and people should have a choice to drink or not to drink.

    And besides, what about meat? You're not supposed to eat meat on good Friday, why aren't restaurants (except vegetarian ones ;)) forced to close?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Nature Boy


    How about places Giving away Booze? like, buy a steak dinner, get 4 pints?


    I was in a restaurant on good Friday a couple of years ago and they said they couldn't serve booze.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Nature Boy wrote: »
    I was in a restaurant on good Friday a couple of years ago and they said they couldn't serve booze.
    Woooooooooooooooooo!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Yeah but Catholic or not you will notice a sharp run down in violence on Good Friday

    Tell that to Jesus Christ Superstar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    It really is a double standard to prohibit alcohol based on religious reasons, but not to prohibit meat.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    I think it's good for us whether the catholic church say so or not.


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    The pubs close for 2 days a year!!! get over it. I cant not believe the amount of threads that have been created over friday. seriously people if you cannot go one friday night without going out on the complete lash, you have a serious drink problem and should get yourselves over to PI.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭derek27


    The fact that the sale of alcohol is forbidden and abstinence from meat is expected on Good Friday are the only things that actually make the day stand out from any other day in the year... most people, including people who regard themselves as being religious, don't even know what Good Friday is about from a religious perspective... if we could go pub and what not as usual, then the religious celebration of Good Friday would slip into oblivion as people would just do what they would every other Friday and not even know when Good Friday was coming about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,415 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    derek27 wrote: »
    most people, including people who regard themselves as being religious, don't even know what Good Friday is about from a religious perspective...

    :confused: What kind of clueless souls do you know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭derek27


    Collie D wrote: »
    :confused: What kind of clueless souls do you know?

    There's plenty of them out there... try asking 15 or 20 of your mates this evening what Good Friday is about exactly and see how many of them give you the answer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Personally i am endlessly amused by it. It's like when the coffee machine in work breaks and every freaks out.

    It's one ****ing day but dammit it's close to the funniest one of the year!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,415 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Dragan wrote: »
    Personally i am endlessly amused by it. It's like when the coffee machine in work breaks and every freaks out.

    It's one ****ing day but dammit it's close to the funniest one of the year!

    **** no. I could go one day without drinking...but if there's no coffee in work I'm downing tools until I've had my fix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭source


    The Law comes from a 1927 act but has been substituted in a 2000 act so the law has been updated recently (in terms of law) but remains the same, so i doubt the gov't will decide to change this anytime soon.

    Personally i don't drink, but i do find it a bit ridiculous in a supposedly modern multi-cultural society that we have to shut all the pubs down on good friday and christmas, because they're religious holidays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    It strikes me as funny that a lot of people on this thread:

    a) have a prob with Roman Catholicism/Christianity
    b) choose to live in Ireland!

    Hee hee - how dumb can you get? It's not like there is a shortage of other countries you could move to and Ryanair is cheap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    If people have an urge to drink that much, AA might in fact be a better place to go. Aside from the fact that posters moaning about pubs being closed are also likely to be the very ones who would be posting in a thread about "rip-off" pubs.

    Personally it never bothered me and considering the debauchery of last weekend not necessarily a bad thing. Much as I have fallen over or asleep from drinking too much, I have never been able to see the attraction of just drinking for the sake of it. After all it ends up down the toilet one way or another. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Personally it never bothered me and considering the debauchery of last weekend not necessarily a bad thing.

    Bingo, and Saturday night in town will the same old bull****. People acting like they haven't seen a drink in years and falling around the place, fighting and ****ing in the streets.

    Personally i can't avoid town but at the very least i will bring my camera!!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Sugar Drunk


    I have no issues with drink and can easily abstain for a day, week or month If I so wish. however, I have a major issue with the government telling me I cant go for a drink tomorrow night because the catholic church says so - im not even a practising catholic!
    Religion should not be ruling the country to this extent in this day and age. :mad: Many people are not catholics or even religious and yet are forced to obey these rules. If we cant drink surely restaurants and shops should not be allowed to sell meat either or is it just a coincidence that the church and government latched onto the alchohol bit only


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,878 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    The issue isn't that people can't go without it, it's that the pubs close for a Christian holiday in a supposedly secular state.

    Yeah, we should open the boozers 'cause we're a secular state now. The Muslims must be pissed off not being able to get locked. ;)


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,878 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    however, I have a major issue with the government telling me I cant go for a drink tomorrow night because the catholic church says so - im not even a practising catholic!
    Religion should not be ruling the country to this extent in this day and age. :mad:

    Did you discuss this "major issue" with your local politicians during the election campaign?

    How exactly does religion rule this country? People living in Ireland fcuking moaning about the church all the time should maybe just sit back and realise how lucky they are to live here in a democracy compared with pretty much anywhere else - China, Middle East, Africa to name but a few regions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    derek27 wrote: »
    most people, including people who regard themselves as being religious, don't even know what Good Friday is about from a religious perspective... if we could go pub and what not as usual, then the religious celebration of Good Friday would slip into oblivion as people would just do what they would every other Friday and not even know when Good Friday was coming about.

    Is it to celebrate jebus getting nailed?
    Out of sympathy we don't go out and get hammered in a pub.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    2 Days out of 365/366 i have no problem with it if anyone has a problem with it go to the offlicence thursday!


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