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Unusual rules in golf clubs and clubhouses
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19-03-2008 7:17pm#1
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bitemybanger wrote: »What is the most unusual rule you have come across in clubs or clubhouses?
take for instance, I played Royal tara and after i had finished my round i was in the bar in the club house having some food and myself and my friend were the only ones in the bar, got a phonecall and answered it and was told that phones arnt allowed in the bar, i mean WTF:rolleyes:
That's not an unusual rule. I'd expect to see a "no mobile phone" sign in most golf club bars. If you want to talk on your phone go outside. Bars are for socialising in not talking to someone who isn't there.
Have to agree with you on the jacket one though. Never heard of that before.
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I have to say I disagree with most of the above. I'm not an old codger - I'm a 25 year old in an alt/indie band which will give you some idea of my choice of garb on non-golf occasions.
But when it comes to golf clubs, they're one of the few places left in the world where there is a traditional decorum and rules in place to preserve a certain kind of atmosphere.
Who actually likes to wear a tux? But would the debs be the same if each year dribs and drabs of people started saying 'feck it' and wearing jeans and a t shirt until it was just another night out?
Or if you've ever looked at the Leinster Senior League (amateur soccer) match reports in the Herald or the Star and the team photograph has one guy in a different pair of shorts (usually ManUtd) and socks making the whole team look like rag-ball rovers.
What's the harm in having a few rules to keep the tradition of it being slightly more formal than what you'd wear kickin a football around with yer mates?
A phone ringing out loud and then someone answering it in a quiet bar or restaraunt is annoying whether it's a golf club or not. How hard is it to stick it on silent on the way in and take the call outside when it buzzes?
There's a very f*cking obvious reason for not allowing golf shoes in the bar. But if you insist, go to Druids Glen where they've a special bar with tough flooring purposely put down to suit you. It's called the Spike Bar
I can only assume the "take your jacket off" thing was involving a rain jacket or zip track suit top which the guy was probably saying to take it off before the captain sees you and says "why are you wearing your rain jacket indoors?". You may be slightly confusing this with the Captains Dinner where all the men take off their jackets at the same time. That's not really done anymore.
I can see how younger golfers don't get the rules and by nature, want to push the boundaries. But having seen both sides of it - as a teenage golfer and now a full member - I guess the best way to explain it is that people traditionally use the golf club to go somewhere nice at the weekend, chill out, play some golf, come in and have a shower, a fresh t shirt and a pint and a mixed grill in the bar with your mates.
Some guys, especially young-uns like to roll up, play and split - which is fine. But the above is what guys pay a lot of money for - having that place to go. Now if I come in after my round, get cleaned up and go up to the bar and there's a lad sat beside me in a zip top and cap with his golf shoes on - it kinda kills the buzz...
Similar to how it would kill the buzz if your bird turned up to your debs in jeans and a top 0 -
ShriekingSheet wrote: »I have to say I disagree with most of the above. I'm not an old codger - I'm a 25 year old in an alt/indie band which will give you some idea of my choice of garb on non-golf occasions.
But when it comes to golf clubs, they're one of the few places left in the world where there is a traditional decorum and rules in place to preserve a certain kind of atmosphere.
Who actually likes to wear a tux? But would the debs be the same if each year dribs and drabs of people started saying 'feck it' and wearing jeans and a t shirt until it was just another night out?
Or if you've ever looked at the Leinster Senior League (amateur soccer) match reports in the Herald or the Star and the team photograph has one guy in a different pair of shorts (usually ManUtd) and socks making the whole team look like rag-ball rovers.
What's the harm in having a few rules to keep the tradition of it being slightly more formal than what you'd wear kickin a football around with yer mates?
A phone ringing out loud and then someone answering it in a quiet bar or restaraunt is annoying whether it's a golf club or not. How hard is it to stick it on silent on the way in and take the call outside when it buzzes?
There's a very f*cking obvious reason for not allowing golf shoes in the bar. But if you insist, go to Druids Glen where they've a special bar with tough flooring purposely put down to suit you. It's called the Spike Bar
I can only assume the "take your jacket off" thing was involving a rain jacket or zip track suit top which the guy was probably saying to take it off before the captain sees you and says "why are you wearing your rain jacket indoors?". You may be slightly confusing this with the Captains Dinner where all the men take off their jackets at the same time. That's not really done anymore.
I can see how younger golfers don't get the rules and by nature, want to push the boundaries. But having seen both sides of it - as a teenage golfer and now a full member - I guess the best way to explain it is that people traditionally use the golf club to go somewhere nice at the weekend, chill out, play some golf, come in and have a shower, a fresh t shirt and a pint and a mixed grill in the bar with your mates.
Some guys, especially young-uns like to roll up, play and split - which is fine. But the above is what guys pay a lot of money for - having that place to go. Now if I come in after my round, get cleaned up and go up to the bar and there's a lad sat beside me in a zip top and cap with his golf shoes on - it kinda kills the buzz...
Similar to how it would kill the buzz if your bird turned up to your debs in jeans and a top
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I'm not so sure - alot of it is out of ego and powertrips...
Ah, now I can't disagree with you there BUT that's down to the type of guys who like to enforce the rules in such a way, it's not the rules themselves that are the problem.
In my experience, there's more adult golfers who are inclined to correct someone quietly in such a way that doesn't cause offense with a view to helping someone new to golf learnt he etiquitte etc.
But the power trip guys are bad and have done real damage to the image of the game. Take it from me - I've been suspended, brought in front of the comittee, scolded by the captain - you name it - A lot of it as a result of guys on a power trip... (some rightly deserved)...
But by the same token, there are plenty of golfers, new and experienced, that no matter what way it is mentioned to them that they're breaking rules (like chipping onto the putting green, shoes in the clubhouse, practicing on a fairway and taking big divots etc) they will fly off the handle and say "snobs on a power trip" which isn't right either.
That's why despite the fact that I have a huge problem with people breaking the above rules, I would rarely correct someone even in the nicest possible manner because some people just don't like rules...
The eejits picked the wrong game! 0 -
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which i would say you only told half a story on. i would say it was a tracksuit jacket you had on which are in the clubs dress code as not allowed
the jacket I was wearing was a black Proquip jacket, I agree with no phones on the coarse but my point was that i was the only one in the clubhouse apart from the barman, its just a bit much IMO
Another one i dont get is ladies day
When the hell is mens day? ive been turned away from clubs because it was "ladies day" but they never get turned away 0 -
bitemybanger wrote: »the jacket I was wearing was a black Proquip jacket, I agree with no phones on the coarse but my point was that i was the only one in the clubhouse apart from the barman, its just a bit much IMO
Another one i dont get is ladies day
When the hell is mens day? ive been turned away from clubs because it was "ladies day" but they never get turned away
Eh, in many clubs ladies can't play at the weekend at all with the exception of late summer afternoons. Until recently, nearly all clubs had mens singles comps all day saturday, most Sundays and on Wednesday afternoons meaning that ladies cannot play on the three most popular golfing days.
Newer set-ups like South County or Seafield have shareholders of both sexes with equal rights. The majority of lady golfers are still restricted to Tuesdays for their golf.
So to answer your question, Mens Day is the weekend, Wednesday afternoon and pretty much any other time but for Tuesday.
Regarding the jacket, I think it was harsh given that you were the only one in the bar but I was right in my previous assumption that it was a rain top or windcheater and it's just not stuff you wear into the club house. It's not a big infraction and I've done it myself. But if I was pulled up on it as you were I wouldn't complain.0 -
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Looks like I got a reaction from you anyway. What was the point in posting those comments then? Why post something and then not stand over it when someone disagrees with you.
Sorry I didn't get your joke, I'm sure your club is very lucky to have you...
First of all rigal, obviously you didn't notice the tone of sarcasm in the first post even though I included the following gesture:
The point in posting those comments is to encourage a bit of fun while also engaging other people on their opinions of golf.
I'm not sure if you read other posts about most people having respect for the customs/rules etc. of a club, but not the people who take great pleasure in pointing out when one has been broken.
Perhaps you should.
Likewise, I'd imagine your club are very enthusiastic about having a member such as yourself.0 -
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That rule about mobiles is fair enough. What amuses me is that people nowadays can't seem to live without their phone. Twenty years ago people got by perfectly with out the need to stay in contact via phone calls and texting (but that a whole other forum). For me, a round of golf and the clubhouse is a place to enjoy a game and have some beers
:D and some nosebag with the other members/friends/family.
The one thing about rules, is that even while some of them can be a little ott, they apply to everyone involved and usually its all for the good. Its interesting to know that in a competition it is ok to ask a player, after he/she has taken their shot, what club they used BUT them telling you what club they used (example six iron) will cost you both to drop a shot:(:(.
The whole spirit of the game is the rules that are in place and abiding to them. If people don’t like them...sell your golf clubs and take up something like knitting0 -
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* Ladies may only play if accompanied by a gentleman player
* Changing facilities are available for ladies at the west end of the clubhouse
* There are no lunch facilities for ladies but sandwiches and drinks can be provided in the Captain's Room, if ordered in advance
Seems perfectly reasonable to me. 0 -
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