Update on our Olympic qualifiers

thirtyfoot

With the indoors gone and just the world cross to go, it'll be full steam ahead for Beijing. Our 13 qualifiers are in various stages of their season, some racing, some not, some healthy, some injured. www.runtrackireland.com is a great source for updates on many of them but it might be an idea to keep track of them here too and people can add bits of news or updates they have.

Here is the state of play as far as I see it -

Hession - from his blog all looks like its going very well. Raced lightly indoors but has a 10.30 from that race in Finland which isn't bad.

O' Rourke - troubled with injury and illness and hasn't gone well indoors. Lets hope for a good opener with the outdoor season kicks off.

Cuddihy - not racing indoors which isn't a surprise seeing as she is nearly 7ft tall but I believe she was in Santry last week and by all accounts looked like she was going well.

Gillick - keeping it on the down low. No news of serious injuries and we can only presume all is going to plan.

Cragg - hot and cold. Great indoors 13.32 for 5k and then beaten in Belfast. Cragg could do anything come Beijing, would love to see the Cragg who ran in Monaco last season arrive in Beijing.

McGettigan - no news on her. Anyone else?

Britton - flying over the country and a good track season could be in the offing. Would be great if she pushed Roisin even more this season, would be a great nationals to see the two slog it out in Santry (they could nearly medal in the mens:D)

Heffernan - just raced in Mexico and finished 6th in a world class field. Is he our best bet for a medal?

Griffin - training in Italy and who knows this could be a big year for him when you consider he was in touch in Osaka for a while and with a serious winter in Italy behind him he could be a darkhorse.

Costin - no news here?

Loughnane - no news here?

Fagan - star of the show so far, legend already. Hopefully the injury is healing.

O' Keeffe - on the AIB TV ad. Probably scouring open fields with a bit of concrete in North Dublin so as to be able to toss the hammer. If she progresses as much as last season she'll be flying. Thing with Eileen is the consistency, she can get great series of throws in one competition, a downfall of our throwers in the past

Add updates if you have them.

Rineanna

Great idea.


I wonder what would be Cragg's best event to go in; dare I say mention that the 5000m hasn't exactly worked for him.

As for Heffernan being the best medal hope, I'd nearly vouch for O' Keefe as our best hope. She threw the distances she threw last year using a relatively unpolished technique, and under the guidance of Sedukh who, Ibelieve, is mentoring her from time to time, she should be looking to be throwing in the 74m-75m range. She has the will to do it, for sure.

Tingle wrote: »

Cuddihy - not racing indoors which isn't a surprise seeing as she is nearly 7ft tall

I nearlk fell off the chair laughing at that! Good to hear she's going well. Hope she gets into a few of the big name meets this season, so she can get a good few fast races under her belt.

thirtyfoot

Some othes who may be able to join the Bakers Dozen of current qualifiers:

Chamney - recently changed coach back to the US from his Spanish base after an average enough indoor season but he defintely has what it takes to get the standard.

Campbell - should make the 800 time and maybe the 1500 too. Training with Aussies (Mottram et al)

Carey - a little bit off the A but could make it. Needs to get her flat time down to low 52's or faster and I think she will be then on her way to Beijing.

Nolan - our most consistent majors qualifier in recent years could get one last hurrah.

Coghlan - another old timer chasing a surprise spot. Went well indoors and if he can stay healthy and gets a good spring I'd fancy him to make it.

Cullen - she has a chance in the 5000 but will depend how she wintered and we won't get an indication until she opens.

McSweeney - Maybe its because she is a pocket rocket but I always have a feeling that 100m won't suit her as much as 60 but she is running fast and is an outside chance.

Mens 4 x 400 - Gillick, McKee, Kennedy, McCarthy, Doyle, Coman, Murphy, Laffey, Hogan, Gregan. 10 guys who should be running 47 or faster come May/June, enough depth to mount a serious qualification attempt.

Any more??

thirtyfoot

Chamney - had a 3.42 in the Florida relays at the weekend so hopefully the switch back to the US will start paying dividends.

Turnbull - beat Chamney in that race and the 'forgotten man' of Irish track could pull it out and get the 3.36 A time if he is the physical shape as he is the one man to get the most out of himself.

Carroll - what a legend, still running sub 14 in the 5k, winning in the Florida relays. Has this man the greatest range of any irish athlete ever??? Passing on his knowledge to the young bucks now too.

Britton and Cragg - not a great outing for both in Edinburgh but now its re-focus and start running fast on the track

deadlybuzz

Not to forget Cariss, attempting marathon qualifying time in London.

Any update on Campbell for the 800? I read somewhere that he's injured. Is it serious?

thirtyfoot

deadlybuzz wrote: »

Any update on Campbell for the 800? I read somewhere that he's injured. Is it serious?

Sh*t, didn't hear that. Not a good time to be injured, its a crucial time of the season.

thirtyfoot

http://www.mcmillanelite.com/training.htm

Seems Martin Fagan is on a bit of a layoff

thirtyfoot

Just noticed that Adrian O' Dwyer jumped 2.10 in Leinster Indoors back in March. Now its a long way off where he was but its a comeback.

Fast_Mover

Hvn't heard about Adrian in an age..where he been? Injured?

Pherekydes

Barry Pender jumped 2.10m on Sunday, too. O'Dwyer has the credentials, though, to jump 2.30m.

thirtyfoot

Joanne Cuddihy has opened up with a 23.56 200m in California. Just 0.23 off her PB thats promising that there seems to be increased speed in the legs so early in the season and also presuming as she is in training camp over there that the legs will be heavy from training. Michelle Carey has a 57 sec 400H.

Rineanna

Pauline Curley was just two minutes away from getting the Olympic Marathon A standard in Rotterdam at the weekend. She ran 2.39, and the standard's 2.37.

I have very little knowledge of the physical repercussions of running a marathon, but how long wouold it take to recover fully from a marathon, on average, before another one could be tackled? I know most people will be different, but ballpark figures will do. I'm guessing it wouldn't be possible for her to have another shot at the standard before the deadline?

I remember reading that Maria Davenport was tackling the standard too; anyone know what marathon?

Plus, using Curley's time as an indicator, I would imagine SO'S would be in with a shot. I know she said she probably wouldn't be going to Beijing, but a good time may change that! How many people in this world would turn down the chance to be a four-time *******n?!

Pherekydes

Rineanna wrote: »

How many people in this world would turn down the chance to be a four-time *******n?!

She's already done that!

'92, '96, '00, '04.

Dodge

LOL @ the banned word

thirtyfoot

Rineanna wrote: »

I have very little knowledge of the physical repercussions of running a marathon, but how long wouold it take to recover fully from a marathon, on average, before another one could be tackled? I know most people will be different, but ballpark figures will do. I'm guessing it wouldn't be possible for her to have another shot at the standard before the deadline?

I wouldn't be certain but normal convention would say that it would be hard to run another in say 2 months and then again 2 months later in Beijing but then again Pauline Curley doesn't follow the normal convention of an elite athlete so anything is possible if she can find a race and recover in time.

Rineanna

SlowCoach wrote:

She's already done that!

'92, '96, '00, '04.

My bad; totally glossed over Barcelona! Even so, a 5-time *******n is even more impressive!

Tingle wrote:

I wouldn't be certain but normal convention would say that it would be hard to run another in say 2 months and then again 2 months later in Beijing but then again Pauline Curley doesn't follow the normal convention of an elite athlete so anything is possible if she can find a race and recover in time.

It would be some achievement. I'd imagine McCambridge and Jolene Byrne would be in with a shout too.

Dodge wrote: »

LOL @ the banned word

I genuinely wrote the word '*******n'; I honestly don't know how that happened!

Edit: Why does it keep doing it?!!! 3 times it's been censored!

thirtyfoot

Rineanna wrote: »

Edit: Why does it keep doing it?!!! 3 times it's been censored!

Read the sticky on legal action etc, relates to a Dublin city centre venue.

aburke

Not sure where I heard this, but Rosemary Ryan is supposedly running some marathon in the states [west coast if memory serves], with an olympic qualifying time in mind.

Racing Flat

Tingle wrote: »

Read the sticky on legal action etc, relates to a Dublin city centre venue.

That's hilarious - and there was me thinking that people were doing it on purpose because they didn't want to jinx the athlete by calling them an *******n before they had a qualifying time!

thirtyfoot

As 'reported' in the rankings thread, Karen Shinkins has run a 53.89 in a meet in the states off only 3 weeks proper training. Time for the AAI to get the finger out and make this happen, we could have a 4x4 womens team in Beijing. JC with mid 50., Carey with a 52, Shinkins maybe a 52 and AN Other. Do have a 4th girl who can run 54, if so I would predict a team capable of going 3:30 and been on the verges of top 16 in the world (and qualification) if they can do it twice. Its possible.

Rineanna

Tingle wrote: »

Do have a 4th girl who can run 54, if so I would predict a team capable of going 3:30 and been on the verges of top 16 in the world (and qualification) if they can do it twice. Its possible.

Saw the time myself on the EAA top 30 list and thought that she'd be a valuable asset on the European cup 4x400 team this summer.

As for the 'other' part of the team, Emily Maher has ran 53.61 in her time; granted, that was in 2000. Not sure if she's injured, or what's the story, though.

Ciara Sheehy used also br a member of the 4x4 team in the European cup, but she's retired now AFAIK.

Fast_Mover

There's nobody with a good enough time..other than the ones mentioned above there's only 56's out there.

thirtyfoot

Fast_Mover wrote: »

There's nobody with a good enough time..other than the ones mentioned above there's only 56's out there.

Brona Furlong has a 55.7 indoors. Natural progression in her condition from Feb to summer as well as indoors to out means she could go mid to high 54 outdoors from blocks meaning low or even sub 54 in a flying start relay leg. If she could do this then a 3:30 is on and a 3:30 has you in the shakeup.

Meanwhile, the 4x4 men have a race in Belgium in June and then the Europa Cup to get their two times. 3:03 would be required or faster.

Fast_Mover

Ah yes, just looked up this years indoor results, forgot about Brona.
Yeah, her time should come down a fair bit being outdoors.

Who's on the mens 4x4 team?

thirtyfoot

Fast_Mover wrote: »

Who's on the mens 4x4 team?

Gillick, McKee, Kennedy and then three from McCarthy, Doyle, Murphy, Laffey, Gregan, Hogan. First 3 should run 45 point and Gillick maybe sub 45. McCarthy is a 46 already and Murphy and Doyle should be 46 too.

thirtyfoot

Michelle Carey had a great run in Mt Sac with a 56.19 over the hurdles with the A standard at 55.60, if she continues to progress she should get the 0.59. Gillick had an ok-ish opener with 46.39 at the same meet.

Rineanna

Good run by Carey.

The University Championships were on over the weekend. Very little performances of note. The only Olympic Qualifier 'on show' was Fionnuala Britton in the 3000m flat, who was left for dead by Deirdre Byrne - a margin of nearly thirty seconds separating them both. Would it be just the case that she's had a long cross country season, with the World Senior and University champs being (stupidly) held just a week apart, or does she genuinely lack the pace over the distance?

Here's a link to the IUAA results: http://www.iuaa.org/Championships/TF/index.html

Videos are on runtrackireland. DCU cleared all before them, winning the team title by near double UL's score, who took second.

thirtyfoot

Rineanna wrote: »

Good run by Carey.

The University Championships were on over the weekend. Very little performances of note. The only Olympic Qualifier 'on show' was Fionnuala Britton in the 3000m flat, who was left for dead by Deirdre Byrne - a margin of nearly thirty seconds separating them both. Would it be just the case that she's had a long cross country season, with the World Senior and University champs being (stupidly) held just a week apart, or does she genuinely lack the pace over the distance?

Here's a link to the IUAA results: http://www.iuaa.org/Championships/TF/index.html

Videos are on runtrackireland. DCU cleared all before them, winning the team title by near double UL's score, who took second.

Weird time for Britton, slower than what she would do over the steeples.

Weather was shocking 3-7m/s wind so sprints were fast but rest was bad. Brona Furlong had a good day with a treble in 400, 400H and TJ. I'd like to see her run a fast 400 in good conditions and see what she has in the tank.

Ian McDonald had a 14.28 into a -6.0m/s but I reckon that reading is wrong as all sprints were tailwind. Hope its a genuine reading because if its true its the performance of the season so far and would mean he would be well sub 14.

Videos are great, lets hope he keeps it going throughout the season, great initiative.

cfitz

Rineanna wrote: »

Good run by Carey.

The University Championships were on over the weekend. Very little performances of note. The only Olympic Qualifier 'on show' was Fionnuala Britton in the 3000m flat, who was left for dead by Deirdre Byrne - a margin of nearly thirty seconds separating them both. Would it be just the case that she's had a long cross country season, with the World Senior and University champs being (stupidly) held just a week apart, or does she genuinely lack the pace over the distance?

It's a fairly tight calendar for international cross-country races. If the World Universities were held any later, you might not have seen really top quality athletes like Fionnuala Britton running it.

As for her performance in the Irish Universities, she may have been just participating to help her team win the overall prize and fulfil her scholarship duties.

thirtyfoot

cfitz wrote: »

It's a fairly tight calendar for international cross-country races. If the World Universities were held any later, you might not have seen really top quality athletes like Fionnuala Britton running it.

As for her performance in the Irish Universities, she may have been just participating to help her team win the overall prize and fulfil her scholarship duties.

Lets hope thats what it is as it wouldn't be very bright running yourself into the ground over the country with an Olympic final in the offing.

Pherekydes

Tingle wrote: »

Weird time for Britton, slower than what she would do over the steeples.

Probably to do with Britton's habit (a very good one) of taking a complete break after the major competitions. She'll come back refreshed and stronger in the summer.

Clum

Mark Carroll ran a 13.28.09 5000m at the mt sac relays on Saturday finishing 2nd in the invitational race. Irish B Qualification is 13.28.00....

thirtyfoot

Clum wrote: »

Mark Carroll ran a 13.28.09 5000m at the mt sac relays on Saturday finishing 2nd in the invitational race. Irish B Qualification is 13.28.00....

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55728797#post55728797

Yes and he is 2nd in the combined rankings , not bad for a 36 year old oul fella.

Am I right in saying OCI don't accept B standards?

Dodge

Tingle wrote: »

Am I right in saying OCI don't accept B standards?

Yep, haven't the last couple of games anyway.

Clum

Tingle wrote: »

Yes and he is 2nd in the combined rankings , not bad for a 36 year old oul fella.

Sorry, Tingle, didn't see your earlier post. Still a bit shell shocked after completing a marathon on Sunday.

Good work.

thirtyfoot

Clum wrote: »

Sorry, Tingle, didn't see your earlier post. Still a bit shell shocked after completing a marathon on Sunday.

Good work.

The A is 13:21 can he do it?

His PB range is savage, a true legend and so passionate about the sport. Mentoring and coaching now too. I'll always remember his sweaty interview in the tunnel (was it Athens or Sydney) where he berated the selection policy of the OCI and said did these guys not understand the building blocks of a training programme and that it was impossible to peak twice in a year where an athlete is just scraping the A standard. I would love it if he got the A.

800 1:48
1500 3:34
3000 7:30
5000 13:03
10000 27:46
Marathon 2:10

Pherekydes

Tingle wrote: »

The A is 13:21 can he do it?

He's aiming to beat the 10k standard at Palo Alto in May. The 'A' standard is 27:50.

I think he's close. Good luck to him; he's one of the good guys.

TheRoadRunner

Tingle wrote: »

The A is 13:21 can he do it?

800 1:48
1500 3:34
3000 7:30
5000 13:03
10000 27:46
Marathon 2:10

Absolutely savage PBs. I think his mile PB is around 3.50/51 also.

I think he can run the 5k time. The 10k time will be tougher IMO.

Anyway I would also LOVE IT, LOVE IT if he got either of the A times. Seen an interview with him recently and this year looks like his last !

Pherekydes

Here are some of the entries for the 10k in Palo Alto on Sunday week:

16 Mark Carroll adidas-Schmi
22 Alistair Cragg adidas-Schmi
27 Mo Farah adidas-Schmi
28 Jan Fitschen Nike
44 Mohamed Khadraoui Iona College
50 Andrew Ledwith Iona College
52 Andrew Lemoncello Adidas - McM
60 Josh McDougal Liberty Univ
66 Craig Mottram Melbourne Tr
77 Josh Rohatinsky Nike
78 Galen Rupp UNAT.
89 Guenther Weidlinger Austria

This race (or races) is usually very well paced and very deep. If Cragg is in good shape he could challenge the record. He broke it here last year. Carroll's PB is also from this race, albeit from 8 years ago. Ledwith is probably due a decent time. Mottram, Rupp and Farah, too. Looks like a cracker.

McGettigan (5k) is the only other Irish I spotted.

Full list of entries

Tomthepost

hi all
this is a super thread for keeping up to date on the Irish athletes. Tingle in particular thank you very much and keep up the good work

thirtyfoot

Slow coach wrote: »

Here are some of the entries for the 10k in Palo Alto on Sunday week:

16 Mark Carroll adidas-Schmi
22 Alistair Cragg adidas-Schmi
27 Mo Farah adidas-Schmi
28 Jan Fitschen Nike
44 Mohamed Khadraoui Iona College
50 Andrew Ledwith Iona College
52 Andrew Lemoncello Adidas - McM
60 Josh McDougal Liberty Univ
66 Craig Mottram Melbourne Tr
77 Josh Rohatinsky Nike
78 Galen Rupp UNAT.
89 Guenther Weidlinger Austria

This race (or races) is usually very well paced and very deep. If Cragg is in good shape he could challenge the record. He broke it here last year. Carroll's PB is also from this race, albeit from 8 years ago. Ledwith is probably due a decent time. Mottram, Rupp and Farah, too. Looks like a cracker.

McGettigan (5k) is the only other Irish I spotted.

Full list of entries

Mark Carroll seems to have been removed from the startlist, does anyone have any update?

Rineanna

If you go this link to the results, his name is down there still. Now I'm completely confused by the time difference; what time is this race due to take place in Irish time? It says 09:57 at the top of that link.

Pherekydes

Official start time is 9.05 p.m., so add 8 (I presume) for our time: 5.05 a.m.

Rineanna

Just looking at the IAAF Scoring Tables which I just discovered today (and have completely distracted me from study!:D) While I know when you use the tables to find what an athlete's time in one event would compare to in a second event, the time given isn't realistically what they'd actually run, but it was interesting to do a bit of comparing for Irish athletes:

Paul Hession's 20.30 200m time equates to a 44.9 400m. Now, even if that wasn't entirely accurate, a time of mid-45 would be a class addition to the Irish men's relay team, no?!

A 15.19 5000m and an 8.48 3000m (Mary Cullen's PR's) equates to a 9.40 'chase - well inside the 9.46 A standard.

I know there are a plethora of other factors to take into account, and athletes can't exactly just switch to another event that easily, but it's interesting all the same!

Slow coach wrote: »

Official start time is 9.05 p.m., so add 8 (I presume) for our time: 5.05 a.m.

Thanks for that; will keep an eye out for the results in the morning.

Rineanna

Neither Carroll or Cragg seemed to have run the 10,000m last night from what I can see. Hope it's not anything too serious for either of them.

1 Craig Mottram Melbourne Tr 27:34.48A
2 Guenther Weidlinger Austria 27:36.46A
3 Josphat Boit adidas 27:40.64A
4 Takayuki Matsumiya Konica-Minolta 27:41.75A
5 Mo Farah adidas 27:44.54A
6 Juan Carlos Romero Unattached 27:47.46A
7 Scott Bauhs Chico State 27:48.06A
8 Fasil Bizuneh New Balance 27:50.48A
9 Satoshi Irifune Kanebo 27:56.33A
10 Jan Fitschen Nike 28:02.55A
11 Alejandro Suarez Unattached 28:06.43A
12 Eric Gillis Speed River 28:07.19A
13 Collis Birmingham Melbourne Tr 28:08.23A
14 Yuuki Nakamura Kanebo 28:30.99A
15 Rod Koborsi Reebok 28:31.37A
16 John Moore Portland 28:32.31A
17 Pieter Desmet Golazo Sports 28:33.44A
18 Japtheth Ngo'joy Utep 28:33.68A
19 Edwardo Torres Reebok 28:33.89A
20 Suehiro Ishikawa Honda Motors Sayama 28:34.31A
21 Michael Kilburg Portland 28:34.51A
22 Naoki Okamoto Chuugoku Ele 28:48.24R
23 Dan Browne Nike 28:52.21R
24 Hideaki Date Chuugoku Ele 29:03.98R
25 Fernando Cabada Reebok 29:10.67R
-- Yuki Sato Tokai Univ. DNF
-- Bolota Asmerom Otc Elite DNF
-- Andrew Lemoncello Adidas DNF
-- Bernard Lagat Nike DNF
-- Chris Graff Asics DNF
-- Monder Rizki Unattached DNF

Róisin McGettigan took just under 2 seconds from her PB, by finishing sixth in the 5000m in a time of 15.58.

1 Emily Brown Unattached 15:19.57R
2 Arianna Lambie Unattached 15:22.51R
3 Julie Culley Nyac 15:39.63R
4 Katie McGregor Reebok 15:46.87R
5 Maureen McCandless New Balance 15:58.02R
6 Roisin McGettigan New Balance 15:58.64R

Andrew Ledwith came 14th in the second 10,000 race in, what I'm sure must be a PR of, 28.57.18

aburke

Rineanna wrote: »

Just looking at the IAAF Scoring Tables which I just discovered today

Fascinating stuff.
Of course the first thing I did, was check my own times :-)
And was shocked to see the tables went that far down :eek:

What is interesting is the variance between these tables and the venerable Mcmillian Running calculator

Just for example, a 3 hr marathon is equivalent to 38:21 10km according to McMillian.
The IAAF rates a 3hr marathon at 35:13.

Neither is right or wrong, I suppose.

What do others think...

Rineanna

I know someone who's been reading this thread:

Women may get relay chance

IRELAND'S top male 400m runners have already put together their own ambitious Olympic qualifying plan called 'Project 400' but Athletics Ireland is now contemplating trying to qualify a women's 4x400m equivalent.

News of Karen Shinkins running 53.89 seconds in California two weeks ago, sparked the initial interest.

Michelle Carey also noticeably ran a personal best of 56.19 seconds for the 400m hurdles at the Mt Sac Relays -- inside the Olympic B standard -- in the same week.

Given that Joanne Cuddihy, whose 50.73 in Osaka last summer broke Shinkin's eight-year Irish record, is already qualified for Beijing, there are clearly some strong contenders for a relay team.

Elaine McCaffrey, a member, with Cuddihy and Carey, of the team who set the Irish 4x400m record (3:31.52) two years ago, is also believed to be training well and there are several quality 200m runners like Ciara Sheehy that could yet be in the reckoning.

The 16 fastest teams in the world, based on an average of two times, will qualify.

AAI believe the European Cup in Portugal in late June should offer the women one decent chance at a good time.

Qualifying is undoubtedly a very long shot, especially with so many countries already clinching fast relay times in Osaka last summer.

Source: http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/women-may-get-relay-chance-1364272.html

Sounds very familiar to what was said a few pages back in this thread about the topic! Unless the journalist herself is one of our regular posters?! :eek:

thirtyfoot

aburke wrote: »

Fascinating stuff.
Of course the first thing I did, was check my own times :-)
And was shocked to see the tables went that far down :eek:

What is interesting is the variance between these tables and the venerable Mcmillian Running calculator

Just for example, a 3 hr marathon is equivalent to 38:21 10km according to McMillian.
The IAAF rates a 3hr marathon at 35:13.

Neither is right or wrong, I suppose.

What do others think...

The IAAF used these tables for their rankings (which they discontinued last season I think) and they are good for comparing a pole vaulter to a marathoner for example. Some people argue about their fairness and accuracy but I think they are good. Obviously you can't say if I run x in a 1500 I will run a y in a marathon but they do allow a comparison of performances across events. I'd regard a score of 880 as a good club standard and interestingly only 1 irish marathoner did this last season while 12 400m and up to 40 or 50 1500 runners would have got this score. While marathoner numbers are booming, at the thin edge of the wedge many of our top guys are choosing not to do the event. The women are though with Pauline Curley leading the charge.

thirtyfoot

Rineanna wrote: »

I know someone who's been reading this thread:

Women may get relay chance


Source: http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/women-may-get-relay-chance-1364272.html

Sounds very familiar to what was said a few pages back in this thread about the topic! Unless the journalist herself is one of our regular posters?! :eek:

As the one who originally raised the idea here, I can confirm I'm not Cliona Foley (presuming its her article).:D

By the way, Marian Andrews has been thrown in the mix as the 4th Member with a 55.42 as a guest in the Munster Juniors. Some breathtaking performances by our female sprinters in Cork. 4 girls qualify for the world juniors in one meet - Niamh Whelan and Joan Healy in the 100m, Mairead Murphy in the 100H and Kalyn Sheehan in the 400H. Brilliant stuff and added to Pamela Hughes getting the standard in the BUSA's. Highlight was Niamh Whelan with her 11.80, a class act and with the potential to be a sub 24 200m runner could she be one to move up to 400?? Say go through 200 in 26secs and come home in 28secs for a 54, all plausable based on her times and standard first/second 200 splits in the 400m. Our women are leaving the boys for dust!!!!!!!! I've since find a study which has derived a quotient for converting 200m time to potential 400 time. Its around 2.25 at worst for high school women so that would have Whelan at sub 54 in the 400, presuming she didn't have a very poor endurance level.

Tomthepost

Rineanna wrote: »

I know someone who's been reading this thread:

Women may get relay chance


Source: http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/women-may-get-relay-chance-1364272.html

Sounds very familiar to what was said a few pages back in this thread about the topic! Unless the journalist herself is one of our regular posters?! :eek:

Was thinking the exact same when I read the article last week.

MacSwifty

Tingle wrote: »

As the one who originally raised the idea here, I can confirm I'm not Cliona Foley (presuming its her article).:D

Highlight was Niamh Whelan with her 11.80, a class act and with the potential to be a sub 24 200m runner could she be one to move up to 400?? Say go through 200 in 26secs and come home in 28secs for a 54, all plausable based on her times and standard first/second 200 splits in the 400m. Our women are leaving the boys for dust!!!!!!!! I've since find a study which has derived a quotient for converting 200m time to potential 400 time. Its around 2.25 at worst for high school women so that would have Whelan at sub 54 in the 400, presuming she didn't have a very poor endurance level.

Whelan has ran 23.92 indoors this season