ULSU Elections 2008

kaimera

Reading thru an focail and I see that its coming to that time again. Christ has it been that long since we got you elected Shay? I realise yore campaign manager might have something else to say but the cat pics were our idea and the chics loved it

I see St. John and Al Higgins can't run again?

And you Shay have said that you won't take on a second term? Guess Ms. Breen is putting pressure on you to give up that nice corner office you have

justfortherecor

Is Eoin Kelly running for president again this year. I remember some of his promotions last year were dodgy, to say the least.

Is there a 2-year limit for the Prez as well?

kerry4sam

as a former student off-campus im curious as to who is running for what this year?

kaimera

kerry4sam wrote: »

as a former student off-campus im curious as to who is running for what this year?

From what I gathered, the nominations haven't begun yet.

Someone will no doubt confirm/fix that for me

bluedolphin

kaimera wrote: »

And you Shay have said that you won't take on a second term? Guess Ms. Breen is putting pressure on you to give up that nice corner office you have

Yes. Yes she is. She's been waiting to put her bum on that seat since, as DeepThroat pointed out, September 2004

By "she" I mean "I"...Aoife #1 for PPO

kerry4sam wrote:

as a former student off-campus im curious as to who is running for what this year?

It's pre-nominations as of yet, but those who have expressed an interest include...
President Patrick O'Brien, Patrick McHugh, Oisin Collins
Deputy Pres/Welfare Caitriona McGrattan
VP/Education....?
VP/Campaigns and Services Damien Cahill
VP/Publications and Publicity Me = Aoife Breen

justfortherecor wrote:

Is Eoin Kelly running for president again this year.

As far as I'm aware he is no longer a registered student at UL (he was in 4th year last year) and therefore is not eligible for election.

justfortherecor wrote:

Is there a 2-year limit for the Prez as well?

Two year limit for any one office; but you can do two years as Pres, then two as Education, then two as Welfare...etc...:eek:

kaimera wrote: »

From what I gathered, the nominations haven't begun yet.

Nominations open tomorrow morning at 9am and close next Thursday at 5pm. Campaigning may begin after that with the election taking place on Thursday, 27 March.

Memori

bluedolphin wrote: »

Two year limit for any one office; but you can do two years as Pres, then two as Education, then two as Welfare...etc...:eek:

I was vice-pres, welfare in CIT before coming here and we had a vice-pres, education who was on his 2nd year and then ran for and got voted in as president for the following 2 years. 4 years of union.... wow. he knew the academic council better than the college did.

kerry4sam

bluedolphin wrote: »

It's pre-nominations as of yet, but those who have expressed an interest include...
President Patrick O'Brien, Patrick McHugh, Oisin Collins
Deputy Pres/Welfare Caitriona McGrattan
VP/Education....?
VP/Campaigns and Services Damien Cahill
VP/Publications and Publicity Me = Aoife Breen

can i ask what other clubs/socieites are those mentioned above in? There are normally some politics/law soc involved in SU elections just wanna see of its the same in UL this year

bluedolphin

kerry4sam wrote: »

can i ask what other clubs/socieites are those mentioned above in? There are normally some politics/law soc involved in SU elections just wanna see of its the same in UL this year

President - Patrick O'Brien is in Enviro Soc; Paddy McHugh is outgoing CSO and former Clubs' Officer 06/07; Oisin Collins is current Chair of C&S Council...

DP/Welfare - Caitríona McGrattan is President of the charity society, UL Outreach (formerly SVP)

VP/CSO - Damian Cahill is President of Skydive UL

VP/PPO - Me/Aoife Breen is holds position of Editor on Journo Soc (it's only new since last semester...I was one of the founding members) and member of DebU...

klong

bluedolphin wrote: »

President - Patrick O'Brien is in Enviro Soc; Paddy McHugh is outgoing CSO and former Clubs' Officer 06/07; Oisin Collins is current Chair of C&S Council...

DP/Welfare - Caitríona McGrattan is President of the charity society, UL Outreach (formerly SVP)

VP/CSO - Damian Cahill is President of Skydive UL

VP/PPO - Me/Aoife Breen is holds position of Editor on Journo Soc (it's only new since last semester...I was one of the founding members) and member of DebU...

1x Sports Science, 2x HPSS, 1x Business...what course is Patrick O'Brien in?
3 class reps there I notice also

Did I spot bluedolphin in javas yesterday evening discussing campaign strategy?

cooperguy

justfortherecor wrote: »

Is Eoin Kelly running for president again this year. I remember some of his promotions last year were dodgy, to say the least.

Ya the one and only warning I got on this board in my 4 years here was talking about him and his campaign last year, I wasnt too impressed with him!!

rmacm

cooperguy wrote: »

I wasnt too impressed with him!!

Why? Is he a Jew?

sceptre

kaimera wrote: »

I realise yore campaign manager might have something else to say but the cat pics were our idea and the chics loved it

Ah, the cat pics. I liked the 's for seamus' posters better myself (also your idea) but the cat pics went down a treat. Cats kill ducks when they've nothing else to do.

kaimera wrote: »

And you Shay have said that you won't take on a second term?

Pretty emphatic that I'd like to finish the degree course next year. Remember that course thing?

cooperguy

rmacm wrote: »

Why? Is he a Jew?

ish

Go to youtube and find his "comedy" videos on UL. That should be all the explaining you need.

sceptre

rmacm wrote: »

Why? Is he a Jew?

<mod cough>See, I know you're being ironic but not all of the other visitors do</mod cough>

rmacm

cooperguy wrote: »

ish

Go to youtube and find his "comedy" videos on UL. That should be all the explaining you need.

I've seen them, they were about as funny as a prolapsed hemorrhoid.

sceptre wrote: »

<mod cough>See, I know you're being ironic but not all of the other visitors do</mod cough>

Ok I'll be good. BTW before anyone asks I'm not relearning DSP to teach anyone. That module has cursed me to this day

bluedolphin

klong wrote: »

1x Sports Science, 2x HPSS, 1x Business...what course is Patrick O'Brien in?
3 class reps there I notice also

Did I spot bluedolphin in javas yesterday evening discussing campaign strategy?

Pa is in HPSS as well. Sure, if you look at HPSS graduates' employment statistics over the years I'm sure the SU is a prominent employer! :rolleyes:


You probably did see me in there all right; I was sitting just inside the door on left. From about 2pm until 7pm. So chances are, I was seen in there! Although I wasn't discussing campaign strategy the whole time! I got 26 signatures for my nomination form just asking people I knew as they passed...only another 34 to go Sign it if you see me!!

ninty9er

Elected

DP/Welfare: Caitríona McGrattan

VP/PPO: Aoife Breen

VP/CSO: Damian Cahill


Polls Opening Thursday Week 9

President: Patrick O'Brien; Patick McHugh; Oisín Collins

VP/Education: Shane O'Callaghan; Eamonn Gardiner


Let the games begin

kerry4sam

ninty9er wrote: »

Elected

DP/Welfare: Caitríona McGrattan

VP/PPO: Aoife Breen

VP/CSO: Damian Cahill


Polls Opening Thursday Week 9

President: Patrick O'Brien; Patick McHugh; Oisín Collins

VP/Education: Shane O'Callaghan; Eamonn Gardiner


Let the games begin

ninety9er...how come the elections are held at different dates? and not all held on the one day when the students would be there voting already

sceptre

I realise you asked Derek but here's the answer anyway:

They're not held on different dates - nominations opened on Friday of week 6 and closed on Thursday of week 7. Anyone who was the only candidate for a position after nominations closed was deemed elected. For positions where there was more than one candidate, elections will be held - these will be held on Thursday of teaching week 8 (March 27), polling stations will be open in the main canteen, SU photocopying room, Health Sciences building and the ground floor of the library. Counting of votes will take place after the polls have closed and we'll know who won the race for the two remaining positions on the evening of March 27.

kerry4sam

sceptre wrote: »

I realise you asked Derek but here's the answer anyway:

They're not held on different dates - nominations opened on Friday of week 6 and closed on Thursday of week 7. Anyone who was the only candidate for a position after nominations closed was deemed elected. For positions where there was more than one candidate, elections will be held - these will be held on Thursday of teaching week 8 (March 27), polling stations will be open in the main canteen, SU photocopying room, Health Sciences building and the ground floor of the library. Counting of votes will take place after the polls have closed and we'll know who won the race for the two remaining positions on the evening of March 27.

appreciate the run-down...makes sense now and cleared up it...I never voted in SU elections so it was a little strange to me...cheers

sceptre

kerry4sam wrote: »

appreciate the run-down...makes sense now and cleared up it...I never voted in SU elections so it was a little strange to me...cheers

No hassle. I get the joy of being the chair of the Electoral & Referenda Board (which hurts my sensibilities as the OED recommends 'referendums' as the plural for 'referendum' but that's what it's called) so between that and being the guy most responsible for advertising the elections (with the help of the ERB people and other helper types) there would be something wrong if I didn't know how it works:)

I guess you can almost all start giving opinion on who you're going to vote for and so forth and pimping yourselves as the ideal candidates (not that any of those running for election have hitherto used this board as far as I know which is a pity). Obviously as the chair of the thingumabob and a current SU officer I have no public view on who should be elected but I do have a vote that I will be using so come and get it.

kingkane

I also understand that the usual profiling and helpful betting hints will be on offer at http://ulvoteforme.blogspot.com/

cooperguy

I have to say I found one campaign good so far. One candidate had a poster saying: Who the F**K is Pa O Brien" (or some name like that). Two days later a new poster sprung up beside all the original posters saying "I dont know vote for X instead":D Ok so I cant remember the names off hand so the campaign wasnt that effective but ill recognize it on the ballot paper!

Of coarse that doesnt show any policies of the candidates but guy X has my vote until people start talking about what they're actually going to do!

Mr Seven

i believe you'll find that is oisin collins

ninty9er

sceptre wrote: »

(which hurts my sensibilities as the OED recommends 'referendums' as the plural for 'referendum' but that's what it's called)

Unless the nice people at Oxford are now taking the advice of Cletus the slack jawed yokel...referenda is and always will be the plural of referendum, much like sheep and not sheepes is the plural of sheep, ditto for fish, mice not mouses (unless you mean the IT sense in which case it's mouses), stadia not stadiums.

rmacm

As far as I know as a Latin gerund referendum has no plural so referendums is correct usage. Referenda (things to be referred) would make sense if there was a a number of issues being referred to the electorate (I think). Curse you ninty9er I'll need to go and google to make sure all that ****e I'm just after talking is correct.

Anyway both the OED and I have spoken so quiet you!

Oggin

For all those who have not seen the campaign bebo page, here it is in all its technicolour glory: http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=6097129714.
Some good ideas in there, IMO

bluedolphin

Oggin wrote: »

For all those who have not seen the campaign bebo page, here it is in all its technicolour glory: http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=6097129714.
Some good ideas in there, IMO

Pimpin'!

Oggin

Well, man cannot live by bread alone, gotta get paid somehow. Just spreading the Good Word

Peteee

Clearly web design is not Mr. O'Briens forté... a yellow background on white text is not easy on the eye.

bluedolphin

Peteee wrote: »

Clearly web design is not Mr. O'Briens forté... a yellow background on white text is not easy on the eye.

Surely white text on a yellow background?

Otacon

bluedolphin wrote: »

Peteee wrote: »

Clearly web design is not Mr. O'Briens forté... a yellow background on white text is not easy on the eye.

Surely white text on a yellow background?

It's OK. He's drunk... oh wait, its Pete not Rory. Sorry, my mistake.

Peteee

bluedolphin wrote: »

Surely white text on a yellow background?

Right you are... and don't call me shirley! :pac:

cson

Oggin wrote: »

Some good ideas in there, IMO

No way.... How d'you figure that?

Obviously nothing to do with the fact yore pimping for him

bluedolphin

Hustings take place today (Wednesday) at 13:30 in the Stables!! Come along to see what the candidates have to say

cooperguy

bluedolphin wrote: »

Hustings take place today (Wednesday) at 13:30 in the Stables!! Come along to see what the candidates have to say

Saw your posters today, very modern and stuff:D

ergonomics

I'm sure this has been raised before but I am wondering about Shane O'Callaghan who is running for Education Officer. Will he not have to go on Co-Op/Erasmus at some point next year?

Mossin

ergonomics wrote: »

I'm sure this has been raised before but I am wondering about Shane O'Callaghan who is running for Education Officer. Will he not have to go on Co-Op/Erasmus at some point next year?

Is he the first year BBS?

If so, Erasmus is optional for BBS students, and Co-op doesnt happen for them until 2nd semester of 3rd year

ergonomics

Ok, fair enough. Haven't decided who I'm voting for yet and wanted to make sure I had all the facts. (Although, I would recommend he go on Erasmus, best thing I ever did!!!)

bluedolphin

cooperguy wrote: »

Saw your posters today, very modern and stuff:D

Thanks! My campaign manager is a legend! I decided to engage in a campaign anyway; just because it's good to raise awareness and at least people might know who's representing them next year!!

ergonomics wrote: »

I'm sure this has been raised before but I am wondering about Shane O'Callaghan who is running for Education Officer. Will he not have to go on Co-Op/Erasmus at some point next year?

He is a first year candidate, but a sabbatical officer is just that: a sabbatical! It means taking a year out

ninty9er

As I've been banned from motors for standing up for myself and my sig I'll row in here.

Shane will be a very able Education Officer if elected, he doubtless knows the system insde out at this stage:pac::pac: (private joke).

Like BD said, it's a year out, as in he won't be starting 2nd year in September if he's elected, it'll be the following year:pac::pac:

BBS students are not required to go on ERASMUS but can take 2 semesters or 1 if they wish as well as a co-op abroad option.

ergonomics

I'm not trying to start an argument, nor am I trying to question Shane's capabilities. Like I said, I just wanted to have all my facts. I didn't realise that the position was sabbatical, I just thought that, as a general rule, the persons elected were finished college.

rmacm

I don't think anyone else was either ergonomics, but yes the PPO, Education Office, Welfare Officer and President of the SU are all sabattical positions i.e. you take a year out of college to do them. I don't think someone who has finished college can run in an SU election as far as I know you have to be either an undergraduate or post grad in the university (open to correction on this though).

ninty9er

ergonomics wrote: »

I'm not trying to start an argument, nor am I trying to question Shane's capabilities. Like I said, I just wanted to have all my facts. I didn't realise that the position was sabbatical, I just thought that, as a general rule, the persons elected were finished college.

That has been the trend in UL, but not elswhere in general. In fact this year's PPO will be commencing 4th year in September which I can't remember happening in my time here.

Shane however, has 3 years active Union membership behind him and Eamonn has spent 5 years at UL

ninty9er

So...hustings...spill!!

cooperguy

ninty9er wrote: »

So...hustings...spill!!

What ninty9er said!

I was too busy wrecking my head trying to get my FYP written up to actually show

bluedolphin

Right. I'd like to clarify something because far too many people have asked me.

Why am I running a campaign even though I've been deemed elected?

I am running a campaign even though I've been deemed elected because:

(a) people need to know who I am and that I'll be representing them next year, regardless. It's easier to break in my name now than have them come back next September going, "Who? Who's she? Who gave her any right to stick posters there?"

(b) to raise general awareness about the Union/elections. This is part of my manifesto - a yearlong general Union publicity campaign. I'm starting now.

(c) to prove that although the position went unopposed I am the best candidate that UL has to offer at present for this post and I'm showing that I can do what the job entails: publicity.

I'm starting as I mean to go on. I mean what I wrote on my manifesto; why not start straight away? Yes, I was elected unopposed, but that doesn't mean that I don't have a mandate from the students to inform them and publicise the election.

With regard to hustings... I'll fill ye in this later: I'm off the Clubs and Socs ones now

Funkstard

Polls Opening Thursday Week 9

President: Patrick O'Brien; Patick McHugh; Oisín Collins

VP/Education: Shane O'Callaghan; Eamonn Gardiner

They're getting my votes anyway I reckon.

Nutty

anyone else get candidate at there door at nearly 11 o clock tonite.. my housemate was to do the village for one candidate and decided not to due to the late hour at bout 10.15 . half hour later anotehr candidate called to the door.. and thought it funny that the third candidate in the race hadnt knocked to tlk at that hour.. at that as they saw a downstarirs light on they rang ell a second time to do there best to get somebody to annoy...

ok i do happen to know the candidate since before college (poor me) and also happen not to like them due to there undermining nature..

NickDrake

Does Fiachra Dempsey Whitely have a chance lads?? I would say he will get a few votes allright. Seems like a nice fella to me. Saw his posters around campus last night and early this morning.

However, they seem to have all been taken down??? Was this the SU again with their censorship??? Seems like bad form to me. A bit of fun around on election day would be needed

mrmanire

Sounds like censorship all the way. The fact that posters need the UL stamp to be left up definately is an attack on free speach. Maybe these Fiachra posters were taking the mick out of the SU elections, but hey they were a bit of a laugh. I'm lucky I had a 9 o clock lecture. Its a pity more people didn't get a look at them.