Immigration checks

RadioCity

The Garda Immigration bureau is carrying out more and more roadside checks on Bus Eireann and Ulsterbus vehicles operating on cross border services.

It seemed to be regular around the A1/N1 crossing between Newry and Dundalk, but it appears people trying to get into the Irish Republic are becoming more resourceful (well sort of!). Instead of travelling the shortest route between Belfast to Dublin, some are travelling on the bus from Belfast to Armagh, changing to the slow bus from Armagh to Monaghan, then getting on one of the expresses between Letterkenny/Derry and Dublin at Monaghan.

Needless to say, the Garaga Immigration people have caught onto this and are now checking the buses originating in Derry and Letterkenny, randomly and more frequently. The 0615 from Derry to Dublin was directed to stop on the M1 hardshoulder earlier today where a spot check was carried out.

patrickc

RadioCity wrote: »

The Garda Immigration bureau is carrying out more and more roadside checks on Bus Eireann and Ulsterbus vehicles operating on cross border services.

It seemed to be regular around the A1/N1 crossing between Newry and Dundalk, but it appears people trying to get into the Irish Republic are becoming more resourceful (well sort of!). Instead of travelling the shortest route between Belfast to Dublin, some are travelling on the bus from Belfast to Armagh, changing to the slow bus from Armagh to Monaghan, then getting on one of the expresses between Letterkenny/Derry and Dublin at Monaghan.

Needless to say, the Garaga Immigration people have caught onto this and are now checking the buses originating in Derry and Letterkenny, randomly and more frequently. The 0615 from Derry to Dublin was directed to stop on the M1 hardshoulder earlier today where a spot check was carried out.

I thought they were only at this temporarily last year, still at it so..

do they check trains and cars also?

must get a new visa

Pete4779

It's about time.

90% of our illegal immigration comes from the UK through the Northern Ireland/republic border.

I'm sure the UK would love for the Republic to follow them into the same mess that is the modern UK. Well done to the Gardai for getting onto this.

berliner

We have immigration police here???? With all the foreginers here I thought we had an open door policy.Come one come all.

Studoc

To be honest, I am gravely suspicious of this and find the whole idea of immigration checks on a now, virtually non existent border to be absurd and blatantly discriminatory. Why? Because you will only get stopped if you don't "look" Irish. If you are going to police the border in such a manner, look at everyone's id, even if they have red hair and freckles.

dam099

Are you supposed to carry ID going north?

Tha Gopher

Studoc wrote: »

To be honest, I am gravely suspicious of this and find the whole idea of immigration checks on a now, virtually non existent border to be absurd and blatantly discriminatory. Why? Because you will only get stopped if you don't "look" Irish. If you are going to police the border in such a manner, look at everyone's id, even if they have red hair and freckles.

Lol :rolleyes:x three million


If the Gardai were looking for Travellers who were involved in a robbery an hour ago, should they bother pulling over black or Indian looking motorists?

That post is beyond retarded. Please...just, please

andrewh5

dam099 wrote: »

Are you supposed to carry ID going north?

Yes because you are crossing an international border (whether you agree with it or not).

Studoc

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Lol :rolleyes:x three million


If the Gardai were looking for Travellers who were involved in a robbery an hour ago, should they bother pulling over black or Indian looking motorists?

That post is beyond retarded. Please...just, please

Just because you disagree is no reason to refer to a post as "retarded." I actually think that to draw an analogy between immigration (illegal or otherwise) and a robbery is a spurious and frankly ill thought one. A friend of mine (black and Irish) is constantly stopped and basically harrassed whenever she enters this country.

Studoc

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Lol :rolleyes:x three million


If the Gardai were looking for Travellers who were involved in a robbery an hour ago, should they bother pulling over black or Indian looking motorists?

That post is beyond retarded. Please...just, please

Just because you disagree is no reason to refer to a post as "retarded." I actually think that to draw an analogy between immigration (illegal or otherwise) and a robbery is a spurious and frankly ill thought out one. A friend of mine (black and Irish) is constantly stopped and basically harassed whenever she enters this country. Fair?

ardmacha

Robberies and illegal immigration are all crimes. If you were investigating a rape you'd might be better to investigate men rather than stop a load of woman on the basis of some sort of spurious equity.

Studoc

ardmacha wrote: »

Robberies and illegal immigration are all crimes. If you were investigating a rape you'd might be better to investigate men rather than stop a load of woman on the basis of some sort of spurious equity.

Stubbing your cigarette out on the street, jay walking and going at 85mph on a motorway are crimes too. The crime of rape cannot compare to some unfortunate individuals tyring to make their way (albeit unlawfully) south on a bus from Newry to Monaghan. I think it is an incredible waste of garda (and by extension, our) resources.

Terrontress

I had noticed that the red Transit had not been as evident on the M1 as before.

Zoney

Either it's a free travel area or it isn't. I do not like this, because no Irish or British citizen should have to prove their citizenship. Anyone with a different accent or skin colour gets different treatment the way things are at present. And it would not be a solution to equalise treatment by jumping down on white properly accented Irish or British citizens who don't have ID - it's not like any Irish or British citizens are required to carry ID in either jurisdiction. People born in the North in particular can be either and there is no requirement for them to carry ID. As such, there's no way there should be differentiation of anyone else from the rest of the UK or the rest of Ireland.

Polar101

berliner wrote: »

We have immigration police here???? With all the foreginers here I thought we had an open door policy.Come one come all.

If there was one, I'd expect they'd check peoples' passports at Dublin Airport - now you can get through if you wave something resembling a passport at the official from 30 yards away.

The_Conductor

Polar101 wrote: »

If there was one, I'd expect they'd check peoples' passports at Dublin Airport - now you can get through if you wave something resembling a passport at the official from 30 yards away.

I'm not sure what you mean by this- I go through Dublin airport several times a month, and while my passport may not merit detailed examination- it most certainly is checked.

Ham'nd'egger

Zoney wrote: »

Either it's a free travel area or it isn't. I do not like this, because no Irish or British citizen should have to prove their citizenship. Anyone with a different accent or skin colour gets different treatment the way things are at present. And it would not be a solution to equalise treatment by jumping down on white properly accented Irish or British citizens who don't have ID - it's not like any Irish or British citizens are required to carry ID in either jurisdiction. People born in the North in particular can be either and there is no requirement for them to carry ID. As such, there's no way there should be differentiation of anyone else from the rest of the UK or the rest of Ireland.

As I understand it, the free travel extends only to Irish and UK citizens and not to others; there has been many cases of people being turned back at airports and ferry ports for not having the correct papers. The powers that be may argue that they are not looking for British or Irish citizens, merely those from other countries traveling between the two States. It may sound racist in one sense but equally reasonable in another sense that somebody who is "coloured", wearing a turban etc may not be either Irish or British.

berliner

Polar101 wrote: »

If there was one, I'd expect they'd check peoples' passports at Dublin Airport - now you can get through if you wave something resembling a passport at the official from 30 yards away.

I know exactly what you mean.

Calina

I think this is more a political issue than a Commuting & Transport issue.

Politics mods - if you disagree, let me know.

Pete4779

Zoney wrote: »

Either it's a free travel area or it isn't

It's isn't. It's recognised in legal terms only in that the travel area is not part of the wider EU Schengen free travel area. There is no and never has been a local UK or Irish law enacted that defines a free travel area between the Republic and UK.

it's not like any Irish or British citizens are required to carry ID in either jurisdiction.

You are required (since several years ago) to carry your driving license with you at all times when driving in the Republic.

purple'n'gold

Of course we have to have immigration checks between here and the North. And of course the gardai will check people that do not look Irish/British. They are looking for illegal immigrants for god’s sake. A huge percentage of illegals coming into this country are getting here via the UK, and that means Northern Ireland. If these immigration checks are upsetting the nonsensical pc brigade, well, good! It’s near time we got a handle on this illegal trespassing into our country.

RadioCity

Calina wrote: »

I think this is more a political issue than a Commuting & Transport issue.

Politics mods - if you disagree, let me know.

I posted in the Commuting forum as my original intention (although it may not have been clear) was to highlight the manner in which bus was pulled in on the Motorway to do an immigration check when it could have been done more safely and effectively on the N33, the N33/M1 interchange or at the Airport Interchange.

berliner

purplengold wrote: »

Of course we have to have immigration checks between here and the North. And of course the gardai will check people that do not look Irish/British. They are looking for illegal immigrants for god’s sake. A huge percentage of illegals coming into this country are getting here via the UK, and that means Northern Ireland. If these immigration checks are upsetting the nonsensical pc brigade, well, good! It’s near time we got a handle on this illegal trespassing into our country.

Couldn't agree more.

mick72

Then,

why not put permanent border crossing with border police?

Most of the EU operates Schengen, I think Ireland should join too

purple'n'gold

mick72 wrote: »

Then,

why not put permanent border crossing with border police?

Most of the EU operates Schengen, I think Ireland should join too

No need for anything as dramatic as that at all, just keep the gardai checking the trains, bus’s and cars and turning back anyone they catch coming into the republic (British citizens apart) who do not have proper documentation. The word will soon go out on the bush telegraph and the illegal traffic will slow down. We will not join Schengen without the UK. The common travel area with the UK is far more beneficial to us than joining a common travel area on mainland Europe.

Chunky Monkey

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Lol :rolleyes:x three million


If the Gardai were looking for Travellers who were involved in a robbery an hour ago, should they bother pulling over black or Indian looking motorists?

That post is beyond retarded. Please...just, please

Every single f***ing time I come into this country I'm pulled over while everyone else goes on. My mum's side of the family used to visit us quite regularly when we lived in the UK. They haven't visited us here because my parents had to warn them about the hassle they would receive. My aunty is in quite a fragile state and would be very upset by the ignorant attitude customs people have towards travellers who don't look/sound Irish.

Studoc's post was far from 'retarded', he was simply stating the facts.

Studoc

purplengold wrote: »

Of course we have to have immigration checks between here and the North. And of course the gardai will check people that do not look Irish/British. They are looking for illegal immigrants for god’s sake. A huge percentage of illegals coming into this country are getting here via the UK, and that means Northern Ireland. If these immigration checks are upsetting the nonsensical pc brigade, well, good! It’s near time we got a handle on this illegal trespassing into our country.

What exactly does to "look Irish/British" mean? I assume you mean non-white? What about the many, many, thousands of non-white Irish citizens? What about an undocumented immigrant from say, the Ukraine asleep on the cross border buss with red hair, poor dress sense, freckles and a pot belly? Will he be woken and asked for ID? I doubt it, which is unfair, since the black Irish citizen on the same bus almost certainly would be.

And what happens to the undocumented when they are found out? Sent back North across the NI border and probably back into the 26 counties the next day. A complete waste of time. Illegal immigration is a fact of life, in every country, and the levels of it here are low compared to other countries.

purple'n'gold

Studoc wrote: »

What exactly does to "look Irish/British" mean? I assume you mean non-white? What about the many, many, thousands of non-white Irish citizens? What about an undocumented immigrant from say, the Ukraine asleep on the cross border buss with red hair, poor dress sense, freckles and a pot belly? Will he be woken and asked for ID? I doubt it, which is unfair, since the black Irish citizen on the same bus almost certainly would be.

And what happens to the undocumented when they are found out? Sent back North across the NI border and probably back into the 26 counties the next day. A complete waste of time. Illegal immigration is a fact of life, in every country, and the levels of it here are low compared to other countries.

So, you are saying illegal immigration is a fact of life and we should just accept it? I disagree; we should do everything possible to make sure our borders are secure. And if that means gardai asking people who in their opinion could be illegal immigrants for travel documents or their name and address or some sort of identification so be it. Its not exactly infringing on someone’s civil rights to ask them politely who they are and where they are going.

Studoc

purplengold wrote: »

So, you are saying illegal immigration is a fact of life and we should just accept it? I disagree; we should do everything possible to make sure our borders are secure. And if that means gardai asking people who in their opinion could be illegal immigrants for travel documents or their name and address or some sort of identification so be it. Its not exactly infringing on someone’s civil rights to ask them politely who they are and where they are going.

No, I don't think we should just accept it. What I object to is judging whether someone is an illegal immigrant or not on the colour of their skin, which is exactly what happens.

There are passport checks in airports and ports, and airlines etc check your id before you board, which is entirely proper. This will stop the vast majority of illegal immigration. Stopping a bus on the border is a complete waste of time. Anyone sent back will be across the border the next day.

The_Conductor

Studoc wrote: »

What exactly does to "look Irish/British" mean? I assume you mean non-white?

I'd actually assume it to mean the way someone was attired. I've a friend from NewYork who travels between here and London frequently- he's constantly randomly stopped- he reckons its the cut of his clothes and/or his haircut (he does look like a marine, not even on a day off). We used play games of trying to guess where people were from, from looking at their clothes (in Dublin airport). You'd be surprised at how rarely you'd be wrong.....

purple'n'gold

Studoc wrote: »

No, I don't think we should just accept it. What I object to is judging whether someone is an illegal immigrant or not on the colour of their skin, which is exactly what happens.

There are passport checks in airports and ports, and airlines etc check your id before you board, which is entirely proper. This will stop the vast majority of illegal immigration. Stopping a bus on the border is a complete waste of time. Anyone sent back will be across the border the next day.

No, stopping a bus at the border is certainly not a waste of time, and if anyone is sent back and is caught again the next day he should be handed over to the PSNI and the authorities in the United Kingdom should then be alerted to him. If he is trying to enter our country illegally chances are he is illegal in the UK as well.

mick72

We shouldn't accept it, but if you really want to control immigration, you do have to set up border crossing and ask for documents every person that comes along. That way no one would be discriminated against.

As someone said what happens if a black person who has been an Irish citizen for the past 5 years is found on a bus with no documents? Is that where prejudice takes over and you deport him since he does not 'look Irish'?


Could he perhaps go to court?

Tha Gopher

Studoc wrote: »

A friend of mine (black and Irish) is constantly stopped and basically harassed whenever she enters this country. Fair?

Define harassed. Asked to take out her passport? Like everyone else entering Dublin airport? Exactly what is the extent of this harassment? Because to me it sounds like someone who has a chronic chip in their shoulder.

Studoc wrote: »

The crime of rape cannot compare to some unfortunate individuals tyring to make their way (albeit unlawfully) south on a bus from Newry to Monaghan.

Every one of them is unfortunate? Every last one is fleeing war or famine?

Zoney wrote: »

I do not like this, because no Irish or British citizen should have to prove their citizenship. .

I have to do it every time I arrive in Dublin.

I dont mind. You want people to travel on planes without ID do you?

This thread is only 2 pages so far and some of the opinion posted is unbelieveable.

Chunky Monkey wrote: »

Every single f***ing time I come into this country I'm pulled over while everyone else goes on.

And exactly how long do they detain you when they do pull you in?

I had my bag thoroughly searched in Frankfurt airport. Maybe because

a- Im young and male

b- Im Irish

c- Frankfurt is a major transit point for Ireland bound weed from S Africa

I didnt bother kicking up a fuss.


As for the "black Irish citizen on the bus with no ID" example, he/she is bound to be carrying something. An ATM or credit card from an Irish bank for example, so Im sure it would seldom if ever pose a problem.

purple'n'gold

mick72 wrote: »

We shouldn't accept it, but if you really want to control immigration, you do have to set up border crossing and ask for documents every person that comes along. That way no one would be discriminated against.

As someone said what happens if a black person who has been an Irish citizen for the past 5 years is found on a bus with no documents? Is that where prejudice takes over and you deport him since he does not 'look Irish'?


Could he perhaps go to court?

If he’s an Irish citizen he would have nothing to worry about, if he gives his name and address the gardai in his local area can check that out. But I am sure that any person in that position would have some sort of identification on him.

mick72

What's wrong with border though? It takes mere two seconds to show your ID

Studoc

"Define harassed. Asked to take out her passport? Like everyone else entering Dublin airport? Exactly what is the extent of this harassment? Because to me it sounds like someone who has a chronic chip in their shoulder."

No, a very well balanced person actually, being stopped and asked questions for several minutes, despite having a valid passport, while other Irish passport holders(white) stream past.

"Every one of them is unfortunate? Every last one is fleeing war or famine?"

Yes, they are unfortunate. By a dint of fate, they are born in a country where there is far, far less opportunity than here. Might not be fleeing war or famine, but these are not the only criteria for asylum. The risks many of them take to get here are extraordinary.

"This thread is only 2 pages so far and some of the opinion posted is unbelieveable."

Just because you disagree does not make the comments unbelievable.


"I had my bag thoroughly searched in Frankfurt airport. Maybe because

a- Im young and male

b- Im Irish

c- Frankfurt is a major transit point for Ireland bound weed from S Africa

I didnt bother kicking up a fuss."

Congratulations.


"As for the "black Irish citizen on the bus with no ID" example, he/she is bound to be carrying something. An ATM or credit card from an Irish bank for example, so Im sure it would seldom if ever pose a problem."


Maybe, but bet they did'nt ask the white Irish citizen next to him/her.

sovtek

purplengold wrote: »

It’s near time we got a handle on this illegal trespassing into our country.

Does that mean everyone is going to have to carry their passport if they are going to the north? I never have so what would happen to me when they check my Irish DL and hear my Texas accent? Deport me for not having a passport!!!!!!!

purple'n'gold

sovtek wrote: »

Does that mean everyone is going to have to carry their passport if they are going to the north? I never have so what would happen to me when they check my Irish DL and hear my Texas accent? Deport me for not having a passport!!!!!!!

If you are not an Irish citizen and you are resident in the Irish republic, it would be a good idea for you to carry your passport when you travel to another jurisdiction i.e. Northern Ireland. If on the other hand you are an Irish citizen you can explain this to the gardai, give your name and address, tell them where you have just come from and I am sure you will be allowed to go about your business. The border between the Irish republic and Northern Ireland is an international border and our authorities can police it as they see fit.

sovtek

purplengold wrote: »

If you are not an Irish citizen and you are resident in the Irish republic, it would be a good idea for you to carry your passport when you travel to another jurisdiction i.e. Northern Ireland. If on the other hand you are an Irish citizen you can explain this to the gardai, give your name and address, tell them where you have just come from and I am sure you will be allowed to go about your business. The border between the Irish republic and Northern Ireland is an international border and our authorities can police it as they see fit.

You cannot exclude foreign residence from the same law as everyone else. At airports everyone has to have a passport and be subject to inspection...that's fair. Telling non-citizens they have to carry their passport when no one else does...is not. That's pretty obvious to me.

purple'n'gold

sovtek wrote: »

You cannot exclude foreign residence from the same law as everyone else. At airports everyone has to have a passport and be subject to inspection...that's fair. Telling non-citizens they have to carry their passport when no one else does...is not. That's pretty obvious to me.

As I have said before it is up to the Irish authorities to police our international border as they see fit. I am not telling anyone to carry a passport when they travel across the border, just that it would be sensible for people who are not Irish or British citizens to do so. What you believe to be fair or not does not come into it. Methods used by law enforcement agencies all over the world to protect their countries borders are decided by what is best and most effective. Political correctness does not come into it.

The_Conductor

sovtek wrote: »

Telling non-citizens they have to carry their passport when no one else does...is not. That's pretty obvious to me.

Why?
I have to in France, or Germany, or the US (or pretty much any major country that you choose to name), while their citizens don't. I accept this- as a minor price to pay for visiting/living in those countries. Its the norm.

Calina

In France and Germany, citizens have to carry their official ID. Given that the nearest equivalant we have is our passports, I don't get what the issue is. As it happens I have mine with me at all times, even here.

mick72

Guys. this is getting ridiculous!


Yes, if there is an international border (which is the case between the republic and north) everyone must have some sort of document (national ID, passport etc) regardless of whether a citizen or not.

When you land at Dublin airport (which is an international border), everyone has to show their passports to Gardai officers. Of course, Irish passport holders are not subject to stringent control (which is fine by all means) as opposed to nonEU nationals. Do you really think that it would not be discriminating if Irish citizens did not have to have any documents while others did?! Everyone is equal and the same rules apply to everyone.

Mucco

mick72 wrote: »

When you land at Dublin airport (which is an international border), everyone has to show their passports to Gardai officers. Of course, Irish passport holders are not subject to stringent control (which is fine by all means) as opposed to nonEU nationals..... Everyone is equal and the same rules apply to everyone.

The point is not about non-EU citizens:
Last time I flew into Dublin from London there was a black fella and his daughter (of about 3) in front of me at the immigration queue. He had a UK passport, she and Irish one. Their passports were closely examined, and they had several questions asked of them. I flashed my drivers license and was straight through. That's the issue.

M

Tha Gopher

Studoc wrote: »

1- No, a very well balanced person actually, being stopped and asked questions for several minutes, despite having a valid passport, while other Irish passport holders(white) stream past.

2- Yes, they are unfortunate. By a dint of fate, they are born in a country where there is far, far less opportunity than here. Might not be fleeing war or famine, but these are not the only criteria for asylum. The risks many of them take to get here are extraordinary.

3- Just because you disagree does not make the comments unbelievable.


4- Congratulations.


5- Maybe, but bet they did'nt ask the white Irish citizen next to him/her.

1- So? I have been at nightclub doors pleading my case while foreigners stroll in. Probably because the bouncers know that most of them drink less than Irish people, its unlikely they will be getting severely drunk and fighting.

2- What in the name of God are you on about?

3- But its not just my opinion that what was said is nonsense. It IS nonsense.

4- Thanks. Tell your mate to adopt a similiar attitude.

5- Of course they didnt. Because that person looks Irish. And unless you want to be whiney about it it doesnt really matter

sovtek wrote: »

Telling non-citizens they have to carry their passport when no one else does...is not. That's pretty obvious to me.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Telling foreigners to carry a document proving they are legally in the country is quite fair. Do you disagree with motorists always having to carry their licences?

purplengold wrote: »

. If these immigration checks are upsetting the nonsensical pc brigade, well, good!

Best reason I have heard to do the checks

djpbarry

mick72 wrote: »

Of course, Irish passport holders are not subject to stringent control (which is fine by all means)...

Why? Surely that in itself is something that could be exploited, no? Same rules should be applied to everyone - no exceptions.

Studoc

Tha Gopher wrote: »

1- So? I have been at nightclub doors pleading my case while foreigners stroll in. Probably because the bouncers know that most of them drink less than Irish people, its unlikely they will be getting severely drunk and fighting.

Not the same thing. At all.

2- What in the name of God are you on about?

You asked whether all illegal immigrants are unfortunate.

3- But its not just my opinion that what was said is nonsense. It IS nonsense.

Right. Quite a tautology. Impossible to argue against. A masterful argument. Career at the bar?

4- Thanks. Tell your mate to adopt a similiar attitude.

No. I was being sarcastic.

5- Of course they didnt. Because that person looks Irish. And unless you want to be whiney about it it doesnt really matter

It does matter. It matters greatly. From your posting I get the impression that your only experience of discrimination is being stopped going into the pub.

cabinteelytom

Chasing down buses will not do. It will be neccessary to restore formal border checks ( which was the case until about 1975) because of policies being pursued in the UK.
See UK Borders and Immigration Agency website ( www.bia.gov.uk) and go to 'news' and see on 14-1-08 the minister's '10 point plan' to be implemented DURING 2008. The accompanying pdf document details;
*fingerprinting of all extra-europe arrivals before (sic) a visa is issued, *automatic deportation of non-national convicts (no legal-aid gravy train), *on the spot fines for employers who do not make the correct right-to-work checks,
* compulsory ID cards for foreign nationals who wish to stay in UK,
* a points system (modelled on the successful Austrailian example they say) to select the highly skilled non-EU immigrants.
This is why , certainly in the short-term ie 2008, but in the long-term also unless we follow suit, there will be a lot more people boarding the bus from the UK to the Irish Republic.

Chunky Monkey

Mucco wrote: »

The point is not about non-EU citizens:
Last time I flew into Dublin from London there was a black fella and his daughter (of about 3) in front of me at the immigration queue. He had a UK passport, she and Irish one. Their passports were closely examined, and they had several questions asked of them. I flashed my drivers license and was straight through. That's the issue.

M

Coming off the ferry as well. My two white companions weren't asked to show their passports, I was. For all they knew my friends could have broken out of jail and were escaping to Ireland. But no they decided to pull over the dark skinned girl.

If everyone had their passports examined thoroughly I certainly wouldn't mind. I understand that illegal immigration is a big problem (though I do think it's odd that the government can get so worked up losing money over that but can run up electricity bills worth tens of thousands of euros heating empty health care facilities). It's the fact that they only look closely at the passports of foreign looking people and have a demeaning, gruff attitude when they do so that pisses me off.

cabinteelytom

The Proclaimation...is always a sound moral starting point; 'The Republic guarantees equal rights and equal opportunities to all it's citizens'.
To it's citizens...not to the citizens of everywhere in the world.
If you are a foreigner in Ireland, enjoy your trip, but we reasonably expect you to produce a visa or a permit issued by our government proving your entitlement to be here.
And I've found things to be no different in the three other continents I've been to; with my passport, my airline ticket home and my valid visa. And inspected very carefully they were too in America and Africa.

Chunky Monkey

I'm an Irish citizen. And I'm talking about other Irish citizens. Not all Irish citizens are white.