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New Drink Prices - Waterford Clubs

  • 28-02-2008 4:50am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭


    You wonder why people do not go out any more and drink in doors before headin out
    I notice it more as a Dj Nowadays clubs fill later and later and fridays not wat they used
    to be at all

    Here is the price hike in the Niteclubs and late bars in Waterford since monday
    These are nearly up 20c on all drinks . Can this economy keep affording the hikes
    I mean there is only so much out there in the pockets ..

    Vodka - 5.25
    Red Bull - 4.65
    So Double vodka red bull is now -€15.15
    Pt bottle bulmer - 6.20
    Smirnoff ice 6.60
    Splits - 2.95
    Pt Heinken - 5.20
    Pt Guinness - 5.10


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    I find it a little troubling that you took the time to catalogue these. :D Also I think you'll find it's: Pt bottle Bulmers - 6.20 and a mixer (Baby Soda/Tonic etc) is €2.35. If you meant splits (Coke etc), they are €2.95.



    Edit: Also these are all club/late prices too.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    I don't find it troubling, I think its great some people are making sure there informed about such things, too many people just hand over the money without asking what the price is.

    While the smoking ban has something to do with the drop in numbers of people going out the price of drink and the availability of off-licenses are certainly bigger factors,


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    The price of drink has gone up in general, but I think Tweedy is increasing the price on all drinks to take advantage of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    I meant it a little tongue in cheek as in "did you go to all Tweedy's pubs Sunday night and again Monday, get pissed and keep all your receipts for comparison?" :) I have to agree with you regarding people making informed choices as regards paying for drink. I'll be the first to state the ridiculousness of these prices but just remember its not the barperson's fault! (Next person to say "You should be wearing a balaclava" will be wearing their drink:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Cripes! it's €3.90 for a pint (stout) where I drink, and that's not the cheapest I know. I had no idea people paid that much for the privilege of being herded about. Think I'll stick to being bitter in ould fellas bars :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Sully wrote: »
    The price of drink has gone up in general, but I think Tweedy is increasing the price on all drinks to take advantage of it.

    That is true to a certain extent, but it is almost all suppliers who have raised their prices. Diageo are the worst for it. At least twice a year they raise their prices. Not sure if its true but I heard Downes' won't be stocking any Diageo products because of the latest increase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭MrLuke


    You wonder why people do not go out any more and drink in doors


    I

    well if the govt have their way we shall also be paying a lot more for booze bought to consume at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭merlante


    I have never heard anyone say "I'm going to drink in place X instead of place Y" because of the price of drink.

    The price of drink never even enters the equation. People are glad to pay the prices. You can easily get a late night drink in Waterford without paying in on the door these days, so you save there. In the past, there were only nightclubs -- no late opening bars -- and you often had to pay in at the door.

    If you spend 2 hours on late prices and buy 4 drinks at €1 over the odds, that's a cost of 4 euro to you, that you wouldn't have to pay in a normal pub earlier in the evening. Not the end of the world by any means.

    If you feel that the extra cost (of €4!) is not worth the music, convivial atmosphere, quality of venue, etc., that the premises has put on for you, then don't pay it. Nobody is putting a gun to your head.

    I know that a lot of people have religious objections to certain venues, to the point that they forget they even exist, but there is reasonable choice in the city centre when it comes to late opening bars (even if most of them are owned by Tweedy):
    Kazbar
    Ruby's
    Ruby's Lounge
    Woodman
    Muldoons
    Oxygen
    Electric Avenue
    The Forum
    Harvey's
    that I can think of.

    Some of them are in the same building, owned by the same guy, but very different venues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭shockwave


    Dont forget that their prices go up after midnight. You only realise what your after paying if you find a couple of receipts in your pocket the next day.

    I'd would just love it if people boycotted these pubs for a couple of weeks, give Tweedy a kick up the arse!

    But it seems to me that if he charged €8 a pint people would still pay it..........Sheep!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭trishw78


    shockwave wrote:
    Dont forget that their prices go up after midnight.
    I thought that was illegal.

    A friend of mine came down from Limerick on a night out and she thought the price of drink in Waterford was shocking, and she goes out most weekends in Limerick city.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    shockwave wrote: »
    Dont forget that their prices go up after midnight. You only realise what your after paying if you find a couple of receipts in your pocket the next day.

    I'd would just love it if people boycotted these pubs for a couple of weeks, give Tweedy a kick up the arse!

    But it seems to me that if he charged €8 a pint people would still pay it..........Sheep!

    OK once and for all I'm settling this, the only places in the Tweedy Group where the prices go up after midnight are The Woodman, Ruby Lounge and Masons on a Saturday night. The prices do not go up at all in Muldoons/Oxygen or Rubys. It is in no way illegal either. Nobody complains about the prices going up in Abrakebra after 11 or 12. As for people being sheep, did it ever occur to you that people go to these places because they like them? I know they're far from being great but people vote with their wallets and no one is forcing you into these places. There are alternatives as pointed out above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭tubey


    Weird that the person who started this thread actually works for the tweedy group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    tubey wrote: »
    Weird that the person who started this thread actually works for the tweedy group.

    lol ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭jimmytheman


    you can add Masons and Revolution to the late night list -
    u dont have to go to rubys to enjoy a good night out -

    prices in Kazbar, Revolution and Electric Avenue have gone up by 20c per alcoholic drink - with is about in line with what suppliers put them up -
    and if the media are correct Irish Distillers have put all whiskeys up by 4% -
    and they are not raising the price off drinks to off licences - strange!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭lost_for_words


    merlante wrote: »
    I have never heard anyone say "I'm going to drink in place X instead of place Y" because of the price of drink.

    I say that all the time, and I'm not the only one either. Granted it's a combination of I'm not paying those prices as well as hating the venues. I'd rather pull my teeth out than go to the likes of Ruby's, Muldoon's or ****** and I definitely wouldn't want to pay what they ask for the service they provide (overpriced drink and what I think are for the most part useless dj's playing the same set every week).

    The prices will keep going up as long as people are paying them though, a lot of that is probably to do with poor choice in this town too. I'd much rather have a good night out and not pay over the odds for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    MrLuke wrote: »
    well if the govt have their way we shall also be paying a lot more for booze bought to consume at home.


    Its amazing my friend is just back from a country and a bottle of litre smirnoff was €7 and guesss wat was on the bottle

    IMPORTED FROM DUBLIN


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    tubey wrote: »
    Weird that the person who started this thread actually works for the tweedy group.


    That doesnt mean i am happy about it.. I still have to drink and i am open to my own opinion on this and fully disagree with the price hike as its just gettin ridiculuos i Dj within the group and i notice numbers coming out late these days and these are the reasons i feel ..

    They should be told this hike is wrong i already stated my case and said it was ridiculous . But hey thats this country for ya prices always go up up up.

    I have nothing against the group but i have against what comes out of my pocket . And i am out tonight ill keep receipts and see how much a nite out for 2 costs these days in Town all bars

    I also agree Diagio are takin the piss but if they go up 7 cent why do the clubs go up 20 cent ???????????

    I dont know why it amazes u that i work in clubs . I also work for Treacys of Wexford and there prices are fine
    so why is Waterford Different I ask and i am fully entitled to


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭jimmytheman


    Its amazing my friend is just back from a country and a bottle of litre smirnoff was €7 and guesss wat was on the bottle

    IMPORTED FROM DUBLIN


    thats because there is 1% duty in france/spain/etc
    40% duty on cost here - plus 21% vat on sales price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    ( the most part useless dj's playing the same set every week).


    Ouch :D:D#


    Thank god i do wexford at weekends would not want to annoy ya with chart Dance, Hip Hop and Rnb.

    Cant help what we play its what we are paid for TBH .. Big djs get paid for what they do club djs the same there has to be that balance im afriad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    Looks like i'll have to stick to sneaking in a naggin for another while yet


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭tubey


    The people who complain about it should just stay home. The argument bores me. And Mr. Kelly, you should know that a company like Tweedys will have a helluva lot more overheads than places like treacys. Tweedy's seem to have become a lot more selective with their advertising this year..maybe things are getting a bit tight..or have they finally learned how to spend their money properly?

    You have a right to speak up, it just surprised me that you did. I know you more through poker than anything else...but it seems to be that you have a cushy number in you djing...fair play i say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    tubey wrote: »
    The people who complain about it should just stay home. The argument bores me. And Mr. Kelly, you should know that a company like Tweedys will have a helluva lot more overheads than places like treacys. Tweedy's seem to have become a lot more selective with their advertising this year..maybe things are getting a bit tight..or have they finally learned how to spend their money properly?

    You have a right to speak up, it just surprised me that you did. I know you more through poker than anything else...but it seems to be that you have a cushy number in you djing...fair play i say


    To be honest Djin is now a hobby more than work .. Good money but its just gettin annoyin seein people out so late these days
    Treacys have overheads as well but those overheads per venue would be the exact same i reckon bar paying back loans borrowed
    My point is that if drink prices leveled off we could all get out earlier .

    By the way this is not a tweedy group rant as its all he late pubs increasin not just them . I understand i work for the group but it still fckin pissin me off that people can just walk all over people . I mean if cd prices go up does that mean i add 2 quid onto my wages each year will they give it ?????????? I doubt it very much.....

    I feel that all publicans should look at how high drink is getting and stop purchasing goods from companies like diageo until they make a decision now i know that would be hard but if an off licence can sell a bottle of smirnoff ice @ 2.80 why is a pub 6.60 and an off licence works on about 20% profit margins on drink so that means nite clubs work on about 170% profit margins would i not be right

    I mean Waterford and dublin have no comparison and yet drink prices are virtually the same . Cork is cheaper then waterford and has more deals for students etc .


    My friend i have a dream - All drinks €3 everywhere lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    Looks like i'll have to stick to sneaking in a naggin for another while yet


    Lol ..... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    It's easier said than done to get rid of Diageo products in bars. It's not just Guinness, Bud, Carlsberg and Smithwicks. Its Smirnoff Vodka, Gordons Gin, Baileys, Archers Peach Schnapps and Captain Morgan Rum as well (Smirnoff Ice technically as well). You cant compare the price of drink in a club to an offie or even an early bar. The cost of a late license, extra staff and insurance all have to be taken into account and thats before maintenance costs, entertainment and utility bills. I think it's fair to say that no one wanted to put up the prices (least of all me) but it had to be done. And yes, the suppliers price increases didn't warrant a 20c increase but they will most probably put up their prices again this year and this will hopefully be absorbed as was done last year and the year before iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    Adyx wrote: »
    It's easier said than done to get rid of Diageo products in bars. It's not just Guinness, Bud, Carlsberg and Smithwicks. Its Smirnoff Vodka, Gordons Gin, Baileys, Archers Peach Schnapps and Captain Morgan Rum as well (Smirnoff Ice technically as well). You cant compare the price of drink in a club to an offie or even an early bar. The cost of a late license, extra staff and insurance all have to be taken into account and thats before maintenance costs, entertainment and utility bills. I think it's fair to say that no one wanted to put up the prices (least of all me) but it had to be done. And yes, the suppliers price increases didn't warrant a 20c increase but they will most probably put up their prices again this year and this will hopefully be absorbed as was done last year and the year before iirc.


    By the way what venue did your prices go up in . Obviously u know me I used manage a few places in Town but that was too much work lol ...Do u work in a City Late BAR ?????

    True True .... But how come if Diagio go up 7c then clubs must make it 20c ..
    This is not a rant more of a concern to what is happening to late scene in Waterford . I agree thats its nearly impossible to stop takin in Diageo products .. But how high can the prices go

    I mean a 5 year projection brings a vodka to €6 going by the previous price hikes where will it stop id my point ??

    Again i am not on a rant against Clubs as i work in them. I just dont like teh price Hikes which are coming year after year .

    I understand that later bars are more expensive but your overheads are still the same but ur profit margins have increased. Why should an increase in Distiller prices extend an Publicans Profit margins . I mean 7c is what the diageo added but clubs add 20c

    The reason people think its all to do with the Tweedy Group is because he owns alot of places and thats why it gets heated when u have a monopoly . I mean Harveys are the same and late bars in general in Waterford

    I ask is Waterford Overpriced in comparison to other Cities ????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,300 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    It is easy to get a vodka and mixer on a student night in cork for €3.90, can be as low as €2.90 someplaces, and you regularly see all drinks €3 nights for students, however sometimes deals are advertised but if its a busy night these deals are scrapped - i'll say no more

    If anything Cork has gotten cheaper in the last twelve months due to the opening of two new night clubs


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Tweedy as far as I am aware, does a lot of good deals for students if they arrange a night out. Class Reps get in for free. I think there used to be various offers, but I cant recall if there still about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    By the way what venue did your prices go up in . Obviously u know me I used manage a few places in Town but that was too much work lol ...Do u work in a City Late BAR ?????

    Yes I do know you. I work in a Tweedy late bar/club. I agree with what you're saying and I think that because Tweedy has pretty much a monopoly the increases were more than they should have been. But like I said this will hopefully (probably) be the only price increase this year while Diageo will have another increase later. This is what happened last year but we only put up our prices once. Also electricity, wages have all gone up as well. I do share your concern about what is happening because it will have a serious impact on the industry in the longterm and its not like I'm some student working part-time. The way prices are increasing can't be sustained but I have no say in the matter so...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭dannydiamond


    Adyx wrote: »
    You cant compare the price of drink in a club to an offie or even an early bar. The cost of a late license, extra staff and insurance all have to be taken into account and thats before maintenance costs, entertainment and utility bills. I think it's fair to say that no one wanted to put up the prices (least of all me) but it had to be done. And yes, the suppliers price increases didn't warrant a 20c increase but they will most probably put up their prices again this year and this will hopefully be absorbed as was done last year and the year before iirc.

    Agree its unfair to compare nightclub prices to other bars but basing your argument on staff/late licence etc is utter nonsense,these costs are fairly uniform no matter the time of day,except of course the late license which if you're being honest is pittance in the grand scheme of things.
    How much is a late licence in waterford then?
    Any fool knows the reason for these ridiculous prices is because they can charge what they want and get away with it as long as the demand for these premises is there,and why wouldn't they?Me thinks the best of these days for nightclub owners has been and gone and latest price hikes are intended to maintain profits while selling a far smaller volume.

    Vote with your feet people!

    edit:I just looked back over those prices,F@CKING HELL!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Agree its unfair to compare nightclub prices to other bars but basing your argument on staff/late licence etc is utter nonsense,these costs are fairly uniform no matter the time of day,except of course the late license which if you're being honest is pittance in the grand scheme of things.
    How much is a late licence in waterford then?

    What argument? I stated several times that the increases were excessive. I'm not trying to justify the prices, I'm just trying to explain part of the reasoning behind them. Staff in the Tweedy group are fairly well paid. Better than most pubs in Waterford I would say. Its not just bar and floorstaff who get paid too. There's also store staff, office staff, contract cleaners, maintenance. People might not realise it but the Tweedy group is a fairly significant employer in Waterford.

    I'm open to correction, but I believe a late license is about €250 for each late night. ie 7 nights a week for Muldoons and Ruby's and possibly only 1 night a week for Masons.

    Again I'm not trying to justify the prices, just explain them.

    Tweedy as far as I am aware, does a lot of good deals for students if they arrange a night out. Class Reps get in for free. I think there used to be various offers, but I cant recall if there still about.

    Those offers all still apply in Masons and Oxygen. Those prices didn't go up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    Adyx wrote: »
    What argument? I stated several times that the increases were excessive. I'm not trying to justify the prices, I'm just trying to explain part of the reasoning behind them. Staff in the Tweedy group are fairly well paid. Better than most pubs in Waterford I would say. Its not just bar and floorstaff who get paid too. There's also store staff, office staff, contract cleaners, maintenance. People might not realise it but the Tweedy group is a fairly significant employer in Waterford.

    I'm open to correction, but I believe a late license is about €250 for each late night. ie 7 nights a week for Muldoons and Ruby's and possibly only 1 night a week for Masons.

    Again I'm not trying to justify the prices, just explain them.




    Those offers all still apply in Masons and Oxygen. Those prices didn't go up.


    Oxygen Prices are up thats where i work sure .. Im making a point of Waterford i n General including Harveys E.T.C i mean where will it stop ....
    Wexford is 30% Cheaper at the moment Dublin is about Level Par
    And Waterford is no Dublin.. Yes The tweedy Group is a superb employer and at no time would i knock the organisation on how its run ..

    I am making the point that the Mark up on drink is excessive in My opionion and its getting to high for punters to come out early ......
    Who is this by the way sure u know this is Neill the Dj ,well so called lol:D

    Again this is not a tweedy group rant but just looks that way as the group owns so many places in town , Harveys is crazy also a dash of Cordial in harvey is fckin €2 or something and prices jump after 12 o clock

    Should there be a regulator for drink prices i ask before this gets out of hand
    and we all end up spendin a weeks wages on a nite out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭merlante


    Oxygen Prices are up thats where i work sure .. Im making a point of Waterford i n General including Harveys E.T.C i mean where will it stop ....

    When people feel that they are not getting value for money, it will stop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Oxygen Prices are up thats where i work sure ..

    Yeah me too.. (Brian) I was replying to Sully's post about student offers. The prices on these (such as vodka & splash) haven't gone up. I know you're not on a rant against the Tweedy Group and I do agree with you but other posters on this thread seem to think its pure greed and abuse of a monopoly when clearly there are other factors such as what I mentioned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭tubey


    Oxygen Prices are up thats where i work sure .. Im making a point of Waterford i n General including Harveys E.T.C i mean where will it stop ....
    Wexford is 30% Cheaper at the moment Dublin is about Level Par
    And Waterford is no Dublin.. Yes The tweedy Group is a superb employer and at no time would i knock the organisation on how its run ..

    I am making the point that the Mark up on drink is excessive in My opionion and its getting to high for punters to come out early ......
    Who is this by the way sure u know this is Neill the Dj ,well so called lol:D

    Again this is not a tweedy group rant but just looks that way as the group owns so many places in town , Harveys is crazy also a dash of Cordial in harvey is fckin €2 or something and prices jump after 12 o clock

    Should there be a regulator for drink prices i ask before this gets out of hand
    and we all end up spendin a weeks wages on a nite out.

    Your initial post was very anti-tweedy group...but then you edited it. That's why I was surprised. Maybe you were typing under the influence and realised it could get you in trouble with your employers? I work in a rival bar to tweedy but i still wouldn't be bothered to slag the place off cause I go to rubys/masons alot...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    tubey wrote: »
    Your initial post was very anti-tweedy group...but then you edited it. That's why I was surprised. Maybe you were typing under the influence and realised it could get you in trouble with your employers? I work in a rival bar to tweedy but i still wouldn't be bothered to slag the place off cause I go to rubys/masons alot...


    Trouble Lol mate im 28 and fully entitled to my opinion on Drinks prices within an organisation i drink out of even if i do work there and if brought up i would also argue my case with whom ever would like to ask why i brought it up ..My original post was directed at Not just Tweedy Group but all of Waterford to be honest .. Its not slagging a place off by the way its about being objective to the fact that Waterford in General is in no way justifying those increases in Drink prices .. We do not have the choice of Dublin ..

    By the way i barely drink so not under the infuence and i edited names incase my prices were not 100% acurate but i am in no doubt they are ..My affiliation within the group is through Music as a Dj and i also work for 2 other clubs in Wexford and have no problem with all prices in wexford as they are realistic .

    I mean Tourists will soon see that Waterford is becoming increasingly overpriced in todays Market . I have the same issues in a few bars but the fact is all bars are owned by the same person nearly ..

    Prices have just become ridiculous ..

    What the Group do for Employment is great and should be applauded im not slating the Group just Waterford Drink Prices as the thread says

    P.s my post was edited so it did not look one sided which when i read back it did so

    You say u work for a Rival .. To be honest with the amount of places in Tweedy group there is only 2 real rivals
    Harveys and Revolution ...and i like to call them competitors so which one u wrkin in?? Any chance of ur prices ??

    Geoffs and Electric avenue are different crowds

    Neill K


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    Adyx wrote: »
    Yeah me too.. (Brian) I was replying to Sully's post about student offers. The prices on these (such as vodka & splash) haven't gone up. I know you're not on a rant against the Tweedy Group and I do agree with you but other posters on this thread seem to think its pure greed and abuse of a monopoly when clearly there are other factors such as what I mentioned.


    Ah Brian good to see someone has an eduacational mind in the Group ;);)
    U can see it yourself what waterford is becoming a raelly late bar trend ... They just aint comin out early anymore and to be fair i know ye have no choice in the matter of drink increase as bourky even looked shocked with what the prices are now ..... But hey thats it now and i doubt they will ever come down

    Sooner a regulator comes in like taxis to agree fixed prices that cannot be overcharged the better for all of us ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭dannydiamond


    Adyx wrote: »
    What argument? I stated several times that the increases were excessive. I'm not trying to justify the prices, I'm just trying to explain part of the reasoning behind them. Staff in the Tweedy group are fairly well paid. Better than most pubs in Waterford I would say. Its not just bar and floorstaff who get paid too. There's also store staff, office staff, contract cleaners, maintenance. People might not realise it but the Tweedy group is a fairly significant employer in Waterford.

    I'm open to correction, but I believe a late license is about €250 for each late night. ie 7 nights a week for Muldoons and Ruby's and possibly only 1 night a week for Masons.

    Again I'm not trying to justify the prices, just explain them.




    Those offers all still apply in Masons and Oxygen. Those prices didn't go up.

    Fair enough,looked like you're trying to justify the extortion.
    I managed late bars in Dublin for years and always had a good laugh at the late licence excuse been prattled out.
    The licence is relatively cheap and a small investment to bars to rape well oiled punters late at night.
    Many will pay these prices at 1am but how many will pay silly money for a drink after work?
    You say you're just trying to explain the prices,come on these prices are comical and anyone who even remotely believes they are justified needs their head examined.

    Neil,a few years back there was a price freeze inflicted by the government for a relatively short period of time,but as far as i know after the threshold date passed they never considered implementing it again.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    I say leave the pubs keep raising prices above what the Gov is setting and leave them come up with all the excuses in the world, at the end of the day if that pisses off people and that affects the business then so be it, the pubs are the only one's at fault.

    what else have the pubs bitched and moaned about over the years:
    - Vintners wanted an ID card that they would accept as proof of age for people buying drink, Gov introduces Age Card for a small fee of about 6e and this should do the job...Oxygen, Rubys etc refuse to accept the Age Card and instead want people to use passports.

    Now I'm sorry but a passport is a VERY important document and isn't something anybody should be bring with them on a night out, course it would "appear" they are now accepting Age Cards once more but over the years I've been stopped atleast 4 times and was told an Age Card wasn't good enough and only a passport would do.



    - Smoking Ban, ah yes the old story of Gov bans smoking and pubs bitch and moan, lets not forget the Gov for years has been trying to get Vintner members to improve pub ventilation so that smoke in the air would be less of a factor.

    Did pubs invest they money needed for good ventilation to improve the air....did they f*ck!...maybe a hand full but in the end the vast majority did not despite being given the chance.

    Now you gota wounder, if Vintners members had invested the proper amount of money in venting would the smoking ban have come in when it did, my view is it most likely would have been delayed a few years at least :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    The licence is relatively cheap and a small investment to bars to rape well oiled punters late at night.
    Many will pay these prices at 1am but how many will pay silly money for a drink after work?

    Nobody's asking anyone to pay these prices after work. Masons, the Woodman and Ruby Lounge all have early prices and Muldoon's doesn't open till 9. In fact people don't have to pay these prices at all. Everyone can go home at 12. People choose to pay these prices because we provide a service and entertainment that would otherwise be unavailable at that time. The license itself may not be very expensive but the other costs that go with it are.
    Ah Brian good to see someone has an eduacational mind in the Group
    Why thank you!:)
    Cabaal wrote:
    Oxygen, Rubys etc refuse to accept the Age Card and instead want people to use passports.
    Tbh that only happens rarely. The Age Card is an acceptable form of ID obviously but it is open to abuse. If someone with an age card is refused, it's not because age cards aren't acceptable, it's because that persons age card isn't acceptable. Remember ROAR.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Adyx wrote: »
    Tbh that only happens rarely. The Age Card is an acceptable form of ID obviously but it is open to abuse. If someone with an age card is refused, it's not because age cards aren't acceptable, it's because that persons age card isn't acceptable. Remember ROAR.

    So your telling me that if I go to a nightclub (merlins at the time) and they say there only accepting Passports that there actually just saying that my age card isn't good enough.......both you and I know that thats complete bollox


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭trishw78


    tbh Andyx & Cabaal I'd think, if they didn't accept the age card it was because there was something wrong with the way you were dressed or the they just didn't like the look of you. But since you can nolonger stop someone from entering a bar or night club on discrimination grounds the age card is an easy excuse.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    trishw78 wrote: »
    tbh Andyx & Cabaal I'd think, if they didn't accept the age card it was because there was something wrong with the way you were dressed or the they just didn't like the look of you. But since you can nolonger stop someone from entering a bar or night club on discrimination grounds the age card is an easy excuse.

    Exactly. Age Cards to work in these places, I have used them in the past! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭dannydiamond


    Adyx,the fact that you are referring to the regular prices as 'early prices' should be of great concern to your customers as this reflects a certain mindset.

    Your greed will be the undoing of your business' in the long run and your petty and standard explanations are complete bullsh1t tbh,and anyone with an ounce of common sense will see it for what it is,poor us we have to pay staff,rent life's not fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Adyx,the fact that you are referring to the regular prices as 'early prices' should be of great concern to your customers as this reflects a certain mindset.

    Your greed will be the undoing of your business' in the long run and your petty and standard explanations are complete bullsh1t tbh,and anyone with an ounce of common sense will see it for what it is,poor us we have to pay staff,rent life's not fair.

    I referred to them as early prices because thats what they are - the prices used in The Woodman, Masons and Ruby Lounge early ie before 12.30. Its a commonly used description.

    I already told you I don't agree with the level of the increases so why would I need to bullsh*t anyone? Everything I stated is a fact. Our suppliers prices went up, our wage costs went up, utility costs went up therefore our prices went up. We're a business, we're supposed to make a profit. Nobody's looking for sympathy and nobody's particularly happy about the prices but at the end of the day we do have to make money and if people don't like it they can go elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    Cabaal wrote: »
    So your telling me that if I go to a nightclub (merlins at the time) and they say there only accepting Passports that there actually just saying that my age card isn't good enough.......both you and I know that thats complete bollox

    No.. what I meant is a more roundabout version of what trishw78 said. They weren't accepting your age card because they didn't want to let you in. ;)

    Merlins was a different time as well. So much has changed since then - mostly for the better (eg change of ownership). Nobody should have any trouble with an age card now except if it's not their own or fake or if they are drunk/just plain undesirable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭jimmytheman


    with reguard to prices - isnt milk gone up 30%, bread 25% -
    im a regular drinker at weekends in Kazbar, Revolution, Harvery & Rubys

    Kazbar pint is 4.80 - Rev - 4.70
    Vodka in Kazbar - 4.75 - Rev - 4.70

    Shot jaegermeister - Rev 4.50 - Rubys 5.25
    Red Bull Rev - 4.00 Kaz- 4.20 - Rubys 4.85

    but i appriciate no door charge in Kaz, Rev & Harvery -
    I go to Rubys - but €10 at 1am is a bit crazy -

    but in DEFENCE OF THEM -Havanna Browns on Sat Night in Cork - €15 adm
    OUCH!!! and it was packed!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭Anon0000


    I mean there is only so much out there in the pockets ..



    I
    Says your man who takes money off people with gambling problems lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭halfinch


    I understand that costs have gone up by 7c, but does that excuse the crazy prices we pay accross the board in Waterford. Waterford property is worth alot less that the likes of Cork or Dublin so their over heads would be much lower as would the cost of wages etc. Yet we pay the same for alchohol as you would expect in Temple Bar.Yet for the last number of year prices in most Waterford pubs have been too high. In the last number of years the monopoly that tweedy has on this town means that the other competitors will charge similar as the punters will be paying it anyway. Went to a club down in Cork and paid €4.20 for a bottle of bulmers and that was in November at 1.30am....

    Yes the costs have gone up for the buisness but they are no means scrapping the barrel to pay the bills


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Mark81


    I have to totally agree with Big Slick and fair play to you for speaking out, especially when you work for Tweedy, and I totally agree, Its not Rip off Ireland , Its rip off Waterford, I used be a dj in clubs as well, and by far people are not going to clubs and If they do its very late, Prices are a joke on drink, I would love to see a new club come in Waterford in a good location and give Tweedy a run for his money, If club owners want to keep their clubs busy and good numbers entering the club on a Friday and sat night, stop screwing people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 BillyBobWinters


    In Liverpool at weekend, a double vodka (50ml) and coke is £2.70 (€3.60) in most pubs at most times and even at the most expensive spots (strip clubs) it works out at £7 (€9.33)


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