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Price of pint going up by 15c next month

  • 20-02-2008 6:15pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭


    Just read this in paper, Diageo are going to up the price by 5c and publicans will add 10c to the likes of Guinness, Bud, Heineken, Carslberg etc on March 3rd.:mad:

    'Increase necessitated by increased overheads, production costs, ongoing market investment'

    So it looks like your average pint of lager will hit the fiver mark now.(other brewers to follow suit as well)

    Question is, will you pay it or will you turn more to the offy(same increases there as well) or go permo sober? :D


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    A Fiver for a pint, thats a disgrace, Cans/Bottles deffo ftw now...

    Nick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Jay P


    The offy no doubt, it's well cheaper as it its, the only thing is you have to wait for a free house...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Make your own in the bath.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Make your own in the bath.:)
    or do it properly

    www.homedistiller.org

    best site I have ever seen on a subject

    All it means is more young people will turn to other recreational drugs. Drinking vodka with legal coke costs more than doing illegal coke. E's are going for the less than the price of a half pint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Aye, and a litre of petrol is going for 110.99c in my local filling station.

    Oh, many's the larks I had...


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Real B-man


    Ahh feck us Bulmers drinkers are already paying over the odds for a pint how can they justify it why is it always the most expensive pint!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Ahh feck us Bulmers drinkers are already paying over the odds for a pint how can they justify it why is it always the most expensive pint!

    Higher tax on cider than beer. Cider used to be the cheaper drink.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    Ahh feck us Bulmers drinkers are already paying over the odds for a pint how can they justify it why is it always the most expensive pint!

    Diageo don't make Bulmers....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I haven't been in a pub since new years eve (apart from picking up a few cans).
    I was in a night club last Thursday, but the pints were €3.
    It's far too expensive, especially when work is thin on the ground.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Maybe you can quit drinking now if it makes you so upset about the extra 15c. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭briantwin


    Source??
    I cant find anything about this online except from 2004 or 2006. What paper did you read this in?

    is your name Doc.Browne?? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Ruu wrote: »
    Maybe you can quit drinking now if it makes you so upset about the extra 15c. ;)
    You go to hell.
    You go to hell and you die.

    I'm gonna be found dead with a pint glass in my hand and when people come to view my body, the glass will still be there because nobody will be able to pry it from my cold dead hands.

    27 minutes untl the offie closes.
    Time to put my shoes on and get mopre beer.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Anyone have historical figures for how much the publican gets and the tax take over the year ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    Simple solution. More beer from the off licence. ;) TBH we have far too many pubs in Ireland. Might be no harm to cull a few.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    ttp://www.finfacts.ie/biz10/irelandtaxproportionretailprice.htm
    Excluding VAT the government take only 47c on the price of a pint.


    http://www.vfi.ie/home/news.aspx?id=7&type_id=1&news_id=41
    Last year the VFI wantd the government to reduce this to 27c claiming that they would reduce the price by 50c at the taps. :rolleyes:

    might have a look at www.cso.ie to see if they have a clearer table


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    testicle wrote: »
    Diageo don't make Bulmers....
    Does that mean it won't go up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭c0rk3r


    testicle wrote: »
    Diageo don't make Bulmers....

    But if they did it would be the best bulmers in the world.....oh wait thats something else. Another price increase how surprising. Just encourages people having a few cans before they head out really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,529 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Anyone notice a real decline in the quality of pints? I don't give a rats arse if I'm being racialist here, but almost every foreign barman I've encountered doesn't have a fooks notion of how to pull a pint. I was in a pub the other night, it wasn't busy (I wouldn't touch pints if its busy, the lack of quality is understandable in that scenario) and Powlish Bob just poured my Guinness straight. Instead of settling the fecking head disappeared on it :eek: Complained to him and he only wiped the sides of it with a tea towel (It had seeped down the sides something terrible). Stayed complaining and one of the Irish lads came over, took one look and said ah for **** sake and poured me a fresh one.

    Bleedin Forryners, the worlds in a terrible state o' chassis.

    Edit: Some bastardin' offies have slapped 50c on a pack of 8 for €9 Bavaria. Fecking disgrace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    if diagio didnt waste 14 million on an advertisement but instead drop the price of a pint by 5/10 cent then sales would pick up


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Terry wrote: »
    I haven't been in a pub since new years eve (apart from picking up a few cans).
    I was in a night club last Thursday, but the pints were €3.
    It's far too expensive, especially when work is thin on the ground.

    €3 for a pint and you think its too expensive???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    if diagio didnt waste 14 million on an advertisement but instead drop the price of a pint by 5/10 cent then sales would pick up
    Ah, will you stop making sense. Sure then more would drink in the pubs and the vitners would have nothing to moan about, the bunch of miserable kunts.

    24 500ml cans of miller for €24 in tesco ATM,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Leon11


    Terry wrote: »
    I was in a night club last Thursday, but the pints were €3.

    The Ozone is no nightclub, a hellhole alright, not a nightclub:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,144 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    I hope they increase it by more.
    Might make some people quit that disgusting drinking habbit. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Tobias Greeshman


    Leon11 wrote: »
    The Ozone is no nightclub, a hellhole alright, not a nightclub:D
    Bloody hell is that place still around! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    one word lads: smuggling :D

    sooner or later it'll end up cost effective like the smokes. theres fecking tons of them being brought into the country.

    soon lads will be taking the ferry to england/france in their hiaces and flogging the stuff door to door :)

    being serious though as a coors drinker im alright but the vintners must be the only business in the world that when things are going bad put the price UP in order to scare off what remaining drinkers they still have.

    i sense a case of the capital gains tax thing going on here. if they halved the price they'd more than double their sales because people ran out of the pubs by high pint prices would flood back . but noooooo. that'd make sense.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭kawaii


    cson wrote: »
    just poured my Guinness straight. Instead of settling the fecking head disappeared on it :eek: Complained to him and he only wiped the sides of it with a tea towel (It had seeped down the sides something terrible).

    LMAO!!

    I think they do that in a lot of other countries though. He'll learn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,529 ✭✭✭✭cson


    I was going through a quiet patch early in the night yesterday too and I started trying to calculate exactly how much Vintners make off spirits. It's something shocking, I'd reckon. Take for instance a bottle of Mickey Finns - €12 ish quid for a 500ml bottle in the shops. A shot is 33mls. This place charged €4 a shot. So 33 into 500 goes roughly 15 times. So thats 15 shots at €4 a go. Thats €60 gross on a bottle. Now you can be sure their not paying €12 for it. I'd reckon half that, €6. That'd mean €54 profit. You can bet its roughly the same for Vodka too.

    And thats without the ludicrous €1 they charge for a splash. T'is diriculous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭brow_601


    Ruu wrote: »
    Maybe you can quit drinking now if it makes you so upset about the extra 15c. ;)

    maybe you could cut out the crazy talk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    1 euro for a splash ?!

    the fcukers in dublin wont give you a feckin splash in most places now. its 2.50 to 4 euro for a small fecking bottle depending where you go.

    its one of the reason i stopped drinking suddie and red's in pubs. much easier to buy a bottle of TK and drink at home :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    Sure the auld lads are goin mad since the last price rise. It always seems to come in just before the summer, they think it's so we can nail the tourists :D.

    Price of pint of Guinnes in Achill €3.60 larger €4.00...... not so bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    nice one man.

    its 4.30 for a guiness and 4.60 for a coors where i live in dublin and thats out in the suburbs.

    larger is well over a fiver in town now. hence why i dont go there anymore. im not rewarding that crap. was out in inis mor myself last year and i have to say it was nice to have a cold pint on a warm day at a reasonable price.

    ya think the publicans might catch on to that idea? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    They're shovelling those sh*te radio ads about how we should all go to the pub down our throats while doing this sh*t.

    I drink out as little as possible these days. It's a massive waste of money. I prefer sitting in with mates than going to the pub anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    what i laugh at is were meant to be the country where everybody's loaded yet we're all drinking like students.

    seriously, the number of people i know who get tanked up before they go out is unreal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    I'm astonished that in a market where sales are falling that they keep jacking up the prices. A large bottle of Bulmers isn't far off €6 in many places in Dublin city. I was buying the same product in Newcastle last weekend for over €2 less. I don't really have a major issue with the taxation on drink as we get this back in services (however inefficiently) but these price hikes are really taking the wee wee. I'm no economist but I assumed in a buyers market prices came down.

    I never ever drank at home unless I had friends over but I started doing it last year. Maybe when the sales fall even more they might twig on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,529 ✭✭✭✭cson


    what i laugh at is were meant to be the country where everybody's loaded yet we're all drinking like students.

    seriously, the number of people i know who get tanked up before they go out is unreal

    8 for €9 Bav, ya can't bate it :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Melion wrote: »
    €3 for a pint and you think its too expensive???
    I think he was saying he wasnt out as it was usually so expensive, and that the €3 was cheap, even though it was a niteclub.
    one word lads: smuggling :D
    Smuggling into pubs anyways. Dealers could make more selling triple shots, than selling e these days. A triple is over a tenner in my local.
    what i laugh at is were meant to be the country where everybody's loaded yet we're all drinking like students.

    seriously, the number of people i know who get tanked up before they go out is unreal
    The difference is very large now though. You can be paying over 5 times the price in the pub for the same bottle of beer, even more for spirits and mixers. When I started drinking it was about twice the price to drink in a pub. No one likes being ripped off, not matter how rich you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Vertigo100


    cson wrote: »
    I was going through a quiet patch early in the night yesterday too and I started trying to calculate exactly how much Vintners make off spirits. It's something shocking, I'd reckon. Take for instance a bottle of Mickey Finns - €12 ish quid for a 500ml bottle in the shops. A shot is 33mls. This place charged €4 a shot. So 33 into 500 goes roughly 15 times. So thats 15 shots at €4 a go. Thats €60 gross on a bottle. Now you can be sure their not paying €12 for it. I'd reckon half that, €6. That'd mean €54 profit. You can bet its roughly the same for Vodka too.

    And thats without the ludicrous €1 they charge for a splash. T'is diriculous.

    First of all a shot is 35.5ml :rolleyes: One the other side of it though you are very right although when it comes to vodka the figures start to get crazy. Take those big 3 ltr bottles you see in big places. 84.5 shots in that. They come in cases of 4 which is 12 ltrs. Now dou you think they pay the same for that as they would for 12X1ltr bottles? My hole they do :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭the GALL


    Ahh feck us Bulmers drinkers are already paying over the odds for a pint how can they justify it why is it always the most expensive pint!

    feckin bulmers
    who'd they think they are, sure i used to drink it down the field's ....forgettin where they came from
    try DRUUID'S cider 1.39/500ml
    3/4 of those's bad boy's and it's all good.
    get back to me and let me know what you think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭steveland?


    "So Publican Pete, off licence sales have surpassed pub sales this year for the first time ever, how do you respond?"
    "Well I'm going to make it more expensive"

    Seriously, I'm boycotting the city centre at the moment (plus I'm broke so it's not that difficult). Paying €5.50+ for a pint after being expected to pay €10 for the privilege of darkening their doorstep is just moronic.

    I'd love to see EVERYONE in Ireland on just one day this year forgoing the pub and staying home, whether they're drinking or not. Wonder how much money would be lost overall if not one person in Ireland went into a pub one day.

    Oh and don't try and pull the old "yeh we'll all boycott the pub on Good Friday and Christmas Day" trick... ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    So if you drink say 10 pints on a night out it's going to mean a whole extra €1.50? How will you manage?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 975 ✭✭✭squibs


    And in other news Tescos in the UK are stepping in to help the government stamp out low alcohol prices in off-licenses. It's already been suggested that the same may happen in Ireland.

    At that point, I'll head for France with a Transit van once a year, have a weeks hols and pay for it by selling off quarter of my booze stash when I get home. Cheap nectar... Paulaner, Hoegarden, Duvel, etc at 50c a bottle.

    Sorry Bertie, you lose - it's the EU dontcha know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    steveland? wrote: »
    "So Publican Pete, off licence sales have surpassed pub sales this year for the first time ever, how do you respond?"
    "Well I'm going to make it more expensive"

    Seriously, I'm boycotting the city centre at the moment (plus I'm broke so it's not that difficult). Paying €5.50+ for a pint after being expected to pay €10 for the privilege of darkening their doorstep is just moronic.

    I'd love to see EVERYONE in Ireland on just one day this year forgoing the pub and staying home, whether they're drinking or not. Wonder how much money would be lost overall if not one person in Ireland went into a pub one day.

    Oh and don't try and pull the old "yeh we'll all boycott the pub on Good Friday and Christmas Day" trick... ;)
    Yeah, I'd love to see this also. Perhaps even a weekend.

    Everyone in the country refuses to go to a pub/club etc for one whole designated weekend, and watch the fckers suffer.

    Sad thing is, these price increases are our own fault. Some of us will keep going to pubs and clubs, paying whatever they're looking for for a drink and allowing them to steadily increase the prices year after year so I very much doubt a boycotting of these places will ever happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    latenia wrote: »
    So if you drink say 10 pints on a night out it's going to mean a whole extra €1.50? How will you manage?


    If you drank as much as somepeople then that would add up to the price of a holiday every year.

    The 15c is the straw breaking the camels back. Last time I got bottles it was 70c each, and they were 5.50 in the last pub I was in.

    I won't boycott them, just use the bastards. Drink a few on the way there, and smuggle some in. If there is a gig on, or paddys day etc, then smuggling in bottles they serve is a great idea, no queueing or waiting for staff to serve you. And the pricks take care of your empties. It is so busy nobody will ever notice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Vertigo100 wrote: »
    First of all a shot is 35.5ml :rolleyes: One the other side of it though you are very right although when it comes to vodka the figures start to get crazy. Take those big 3 ltr bottles you see in big places. 84.5 shots in that. They come in cases of 4 which is 12 ltrs. Now dou you think they pay the same for that as they would for 12X1ltr bottles? My hole they do :)

    Quinn's in drumcondra are selling Larios gin behind teh bar at the usual price.The stuff retails in spain (where its made) for 5 euro a litre,christ knows what it costs to buy wholesale.The stuff is muck as well AND they have the cheek to sell it in the Gordon's optic so it looks like you're getting the good stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    briantwin wrote: »
    Source??
    I cant find anything about this online except from 2004 or 2006. What paper did you read this in?

    is your name Doc.Browne?? :D

    Indo title. Its not in the online version. It does quote Diageo and an irate publican(yes really does, two faced comes to mind on that one!)

    No, not Doc Browne :D

    On the topic, the likes of Beamish(3.60 a pint i think) who have a price freeze will only gain by Diageo hiking up prices. Notice how Beamish is getting slightly more available in a good few pubs now?
    I downed a pint of Guinness for 3.80 on sunday in a D4 district where you expect prices to be sky-high, then went across the road to another pub and they charged 4:30 for the same, 50c difference, batant rip-off how are ya!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Check this out for the league table of expensive boozers
    www.dublinpubscene.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ross_Mahon


    I am not a happy camper :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Has anyone noticed the drink gone up yet?

    I haven't been in a pub in about 3 weeks due to offy consumption :D

    I've heard a city centre pub(fiver->5.20) and a few in Finglas have put up their lager by 20c already or are due to do it this weekend


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    rubadub wrote: »
    All it means is more young people will turn to other recreational drugs. Drinking vodka with legal coke costs more than doing illegal coke. E's are going for the less than the price of a half pint.

    Difference being

    a- Said drugs will usually leave a rougher hangover in the morning

    b- 50 euro of alcohol is alot more fun than 50 of talcum powder with a 10% sprinkling of cocaine

    Having said that I fell back on yokes at a few Point gigs because the bar didnt serve to under 21s (and I was 18-20 these times)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    Degsy wrote: »
    Check this out for the league table of expensive boozers
    www.dublinpubscene.com



    whats really scary is on average the info's FOUR YEARS OLD !! :eek:

    so theyve probably gone up in price since then. by the way , what tool would pay 7 euro for a pint of heineken in cocoon? that fcuking idiot deserves to be ripped off.


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