Arw selection/training

murph226

Riddle101 wrote: »

Thanks for that, i remember seeing one of them with a Hecklar&Kock actually, he was doing guard duty in The Curragh when i was doing my annual camp in the summer but i never thought much of it. I believe the Navy use the MP-5 as well

The I.N.S. have no MP5's unfortunatley bud

Local-womanizer

After the training they also are on 3yr proabition so any messing or misbehaviour they are kicked out in no time,so I have heard.

Also heard they train alot with Delta.If true it must be a good reflection on the ARW if Delta keep on training with them.And many goverments have huge praise for the Rangers and the work they do,even the Americans.

blade796

Local-womanizer wrote: »

After the training they also are on 3yr proabition so any messing or misbehaviour they are kicked out in no time,so I have heard.

Also heard they train alot with Delta.If true it must be a good reflection on the ARW if Delta keep on training with them.And many goverments have huge praise for the Rangers and the work they do,even the Americans.

Yet to see any evidence the ARW train at Fort Bragg, but its possible ARW instructors have gone over on courses.

Local-womanizer

blade796 wrote: »

Yet to see any evidence the ARW train at Fort Bragg, but its possible ARW instructors have gone over on courses.

Yea probaly that.As i said I wasent sure.

SailingSOLDIER

twinytwo wrote: »

Sidearms: Walther PPK
SIG P226
SIG P228

Machine Guns: FN Minimi-Para
FN Mag

Semi Auto: Heckler&Koch MP-5 A3
Heckler&Koch MP-5 SD3
Heckler&Koch MP-5K
Heckler&Koch 53

They do use the Steyr Aug as it is the standard assault weapon for the armed forces. They also use Steyr A3 Carbine.
The Snipers use the Accuracy International .338

they also have access to the following

Bennelli m3 combat shotguns
Ak-47
H&K MP5
H&K G3
M4
Barrett .50 sniper rifles
And much more


Ive seen them with most of these and there is a whole heap more differant armanents they can use depending on situation, country deployed, climate of country, mission at hand etc

SailingSOLDIER

Quis Separabit wrote: »

Where did anyone claim it takes 4 weeks to become a ranger ?

Got the post ?

Its impossible that a unit the size of a company with such limited logistical support and equipment, can be expert in all of the above. Especially when the apart from CRW the main role of the unit is to raise standards in the army and rangers later return to their units.

I am simply stating reality. I am not claiming they are not a special forces unit, just your claim their selection and test week and training is on par with the SAS and Delta etc, which is your claim, infact you stated their selection and training went beyond that of those units.


Post the rest of the cut and paste.

thats strange because the ARW have over the years assisted in the training of SAS and Seal team personnel, they have also been classed as one of the best special forces in the world for perfessionalism and training.
over the last few years the ARW have ranked within the top 5 in the world at the world spec ops competitions

OS119

SailingSOLDIER wrote: »

thats strange because the ARW have over the years assisted in the training of SAS and Seal team personnel, they have also been classed as one of the best special forces in the world for perfessionalism and training.
over the last few years the ARW have ranked within the top 5 in the world at the world spec ops competitions

loath as i am to dabble in the realm of the uber-walt, but exactly what basis have you - or indeed anyone else - for making these claims about the comparable capabilities about the ARW vs other SF units?

it is an absolute fact that you can count on one hand the operations the ARW have conducted in the last ten years, only one of which could by any stretch of the imagination be said to have been conducted against the kind of opponent faced by UK, US, Canadian, German, French, Dutch and a dozen other NATO SF units every week in half a dozen sandy hellholes for the last 7 years.

there is, quite simply, no objective way to compare units which do undertake such operations and those that don't - and given the Irish governments policy regarding the public declaration of all overseas deployments, it is quite simply impossible that either the ARW or other Irish units have conducted either specific operations or campaigns away from the public eye.

you embarass the ARW and Irish forces generally when such statements are made, given that they are palpably untrue and are nothing but nationalistic chest beating.

MacBuster

SailingSOLDIER wrote: »

thats strange because the ARW have over the years assisted in the training of SAS and Seal team personnel, they have also been classed as one of the best special forces in the world for perfessionalism and training.
over the last few years the ARW have ranked within the top 5 in the world at the world spec ops competitions

Cough Cough Walter alert

Local-womanizer

Unless you know for sure,like 100% absoultly positivitly for sure about the ARW and whatever they get up to then you cannot comment on their experiance or how good they are.At the end of the day they could be sitting in Iraq right now,or they could have been the people leading the hostage rescue in Columbia.No one here knows for sure.

They are a special forces unit and their work and abilities are meant to be unknown to the public,even if the public intentions are good that does not change the kind of info released about them.

Every special forces unit in the world is a force to be reckoned with and Iam sure as hell not going to go up to a sf solider and tell him he is crap!

The one thing about the ARW is they keep to themselves and any special forces in the world will tell you that is ideal for them.Look how many ex and current SAS soliders hate the fact there was so much media coverage of them.

Irish_Army01

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Unless you know for sure,like 100% absoultly positivitly for sure about the ARW and whatever they get up to then you cannot comment on their experiance or how good they are.At the end of the day they could be sitting in Iraq right now,or they could have been the people leading the hostage rescue in Columbia.No one here knows for sure.

They are a special forces unit and their work and abilities are meant to be unknown to the public,even if the public intentions are good that does not change the kind of info released about them.

Every special forces unit in the world is a force to be reckoned with and Iam sure as hell not going to go up to a sf solider and tell him he is crap!

The one thing about the ARW is they keep to themselves and any special forces in the world will tell you that is ideal for them.Look how many ex and current SAS soliders hate the fact there was so much media coverage of them.

Ah FFS!! They are not in Iraq!!

They have no agenda or requirement to be there.

MacBuster

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Unless you know for sure,like 100% absoultly positivitly for sure about the ARW and whatever they get up to then you cannot comment on their experiance or how good they are.At the end of the day they could be sitting in Iraq right now,or they could have been the people leading the hostage rescue in Columbia.No one here knows for sure.

They are a special forces unit and their work and abilities are meant to be unknown to the public,even if the public intentions are good that does not change the kind of info released about them.

Every special forces unit in the world is a force to be reckoned with and Iam sure as hell not going to go up to a sf solider and tell him he is crap!

The one thing about the ARW is they keep to themselves and any special forces in the world will tell you that is ideal for them.Look how many ex and current SAS soliders hate the fact there was so much media coverage of them.

More BS Can we close this thread as the walters are popping up everwhere.

Local Womaniser stop talking crap as you obviously dont know what your talking about.

Irish_Army01

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Yea probaly that.As i said I wasent sure.

Are you even in the Army?

Stop making claims you have no knowledge about..

Local-womanizer

I'am not saying thay are in Iraq or Columbia.I was using it as an example that thay could be somewhere where the public does not know about.

Regarding Irish army01 no I'am not in the army and I read in a tabloid/publication before that they train with the Americans but I dident say it was certain and I dident claim I knew what I was on about,unlike most other people on here who think they know everything or almost everything about the ARW.No need to make wild accusations.All info people on here get on the ARW usually come from the media with a few exceptions,I cant help it if I read up on such issues aswell.

I was making the point that no one can judge the ARW on their capitabilities and experiance only the soliders themselves.The info that is released about the ARW is severely restricted for a reason.The public do not know every detail about every mission involving the ARW.I wasent coming on here to preach to people,I am sorry if it sounded that way,but I was expressing a little common knowledge.

But it is obvious that a SF unit is highly capable no matter which country they are from.

martinr5232

I just seen one flying past the window with a red cape on him.:rolleyes::D

Poccington

This thread is getting a bit silly.

The Wing aren't in Iraq nor are they close to Iraq. Unless you've met and spoken to any of the lads from the Wing, or at the very least you're in the Army...... Stop talking bollox about things you don't know about.

Dub13

Poccington wrote: »

This thread is getting a bit silly.

I agree,I am going to close this one as we are going around in circles.