Student Players Vote Please

carfax

Hi all,

Ok student poker players only please vote in this thread.

The whole marketting campaign for the National Student Poker Championships 2008 involves us travelling around the country promoting the tournament in college poker soc games. The flyers and posters we have done up have a real underground feel to them and the badges are pretty cool (so I've been told, haven't actually seen them yet but a friend of mine who is a brilliant person has made them, she lives in London hence the involvement of the postal service).....

Cool Hand Luke's have already offered to run an added value satellite and we will be organising many more in poker clubs and poker sos around the country on different student poker nights.....

We will also be offering each poker society a real financial incentive to get involved in this tournament, to promote poker and bring lots and lots of new players into the game.

Judging by emails so far there are a lot of players that want to play in this tournament, are in their early twenties but not in third level education....They have lots of friends that are in third level but they themselves are not.....

Its a simple question and I will go by whatever the vote is here.

cooker3

Rename it to something else and let everyone play

carfax

cooker3 wrote: »

Rename it to something else and let everyone play

I'm not renaming it, I will give players what they want and it is a student tournament, we can just set the rules of registration....i.e. Do players trust my judgement in terms of putting together a student tournament or do they need the rules clearly defined?...Either way is fine by me (the hope is that the tournament "National Student Poker Championship" will become more valuable as it gets more established over the coming years so we're not changing the name)....Plus Devilfish Poker have sponsored the event, we can't really move the goalposts that much now that they have given us a load of money .....

ooops, I mean a little bit of money

If you look at the guys who are gonna make up the backbone of this event they are all guys who are around the edge of leaving college or just have. I think the 20-somethings are ok. If it was only students Ditpoker couldn't play for example (congrats on finishing Jeff) and where is the value in that?

carfax

Well the poll closes in 5 days and not including my own vote or any others that are shown to be from non-students whichever has the majority will be the way it is run.

Mr.Plough

I'm a student but I still voted for B as I want more monies when I own it

Idoubtit

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

carfax wrote: »

we can't really move the goalposts that much now that they have given us a load of money .....

Isn't it moving the goalposts to not restrist this to students?

carfax

Idoubtit wrote: »

Isn't it moving the goalposts to not restrist this to students?

No they've trusted us to run a great tournament and that means everything from now until April 6th.....We make decisions as regards who is and who is not eligible to play, but of course we simply listen to players and try to provide a service...We'll set a rule for this in 5 days.

carfax

Come on guys and girls, please don't give us another dead-heat .

Just vote for what you think will make for the best "National Student Poker Champs 2008".

ditpoker

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

Deleted User wrote: »

If you look at the guys who are gonna make up the backbone of this event they are all guys who are around the edge of leaving college or just have. I think the 20-somethings are ok. If it was only students Ditpoker couldn't play for example (congrats on finishing Jeff) and where is the value in that?

YEA!... hey... what!!!? HEY!!!

fortunately for me I'm now working in a college and have access to the student card printer!

i really need to play cards more if keith is calling me the value!!! havent played in AGES!

ditpoker

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i voted for check that all players have a student ID.

the problem is the term student is quite broad. It implies 18-22year old wasters who dont wanna get a job yet and next step in further education seems more sensible. but realistically my mother is a student as she has to keep updating her qualifications on a annual basis. anyone in their 50's doing a PhD is a student. Anyone training to be a football coach is a student, anyone doing the FE1's or accountancy exams are students, these guys can be any age.

realistically, this has been called the National Student Poker Championships, i'd advertise it as STUDENTS ONLY and if someone in theri 60's turns up, you ask them "are they a student" and they say "yes, i'm completing a course in horticulture" you let them in.

you could specify its for u-25's, that way there is no ambiguity regarding who or what is a student... title of event "national student poker championship", rules for entry "must be under 25"

dannydiamond

carfax wrote: »

Hi all,
Ok student poker players only please vote in this thread.
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Just having a gander at this stephen and it looks like your vote is tainted with non-students.

carfax

dannydiamond wrote: »

Just having a gander at this stephen and it looks like your vote is tainted with non-students.

Aside from me, who?.....I don't think BIG-SLICK-POKER is Neill Kelly, is it?

ditpoker

ditpoker wrote: »

i really need to play cards more if keith is calling me the value!!! havent played in AGES!

I wasn't calling you the value Jeff... ok maybe I was but to be fair I haven't seen you in ages at any tournament and I would've won our prop bet about final tables hands-down if you were ever in a tournament. You get to 2-2 and just disappear? Weak...

So for sheer rustiness you must be the value:D:D:D

I, luckily, am still a student so I'll be playing either way but I think this tournament would be a lot less interesting without some of the players recently leaving college. Oh and I swear Stephen I want the head of Trinity Poker Soc from last year at my table; we have a little business to clear up...

Goodluck2me

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

Deleted User wrote: »

I wasn't calling you the value Jeff... ok maybe I was but to be fair I haven't seen you in ages at any tournament and I would've won our prop bet about final tables hands-down if you were ever in a tournament. You get to 2-2 and just disappear? Weak...

So for sheer rustiness you must be the value:D:D:D

I, luckily, am still a student so I'll be playing either way but I think this tournament would be a lot less interesting without some of the players recently leaving college. Oh and I swear Stephen I want the head of Trinity Poker Soc from last year at my table; we have a little business to clear up...

geoff is the value.

Theresalwaysone

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Students only. Makes more sense. Plus, there are definately more student players out there than any other demographic. You just gotta convince 'em to break out of their fishy homegames and play in a "real" tourney.

Heisenberg.

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carfax

The Scientist wrote: »

This is probably the only poker tourney ill actually travel to Dublin all year for so i hope its not students only.
Why not called it the Irish Youth Championships or something?

We're not going to call it anything else mate, sorry.....We do just want to cater to students here, as stated many times.....It just depends now on how students vote now as to how we approach registration rules......

By the way I will be really strict on what we are saying here, if players don't have a valid student card they won't be playing, it could reduce the field considerably as most student players will only play when one or two of their non-student/ recently left college/ recently left school and are taking a year out/ have lost their student card mates are playing too......

connie147

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

Oops, sorry Steven,I voted before reading that you didnt want non students voting. I think a National Students Championship is a great idea,but honestly,it just has to be kept as student only to deserve that title. Colleges football is played between college sudents just like a National students championship should be played amongst students.

If you want to involve both students and non students,then change the name of the event. If your tourney gets the media attention it deserves, how do you explain to the press that the National student champion for 2008 is (say for instance) Neil Kelly,Poker tour operator and casino owner. Or maybe this years champion is HJ,professional poker player.

I wouldn't have voted if I'd seen your request for a student only vote.But once I did,I felt I should air my views.

Connie

carfax

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Students only. Makes more sense. Plus, there are definately more student players out there than any other demographic. You just gotta convince 'em to break out of their fishy homegames and play in a "real" tourney.

We just want to do what the majority think is fair so its all good.

I have a fair bit of experience of organising student tournaments and I am just going to say one thing; students players are the laziest demographic....Its really hard to convince them to do just about anything over staying in bed all day.

AdMMM

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

Check that every player has a valid student ID (smaller prize-pool very likely

I don't think it's fair to word an option like that.

My own views are that this is the National Student Poker Championship and as such should be purely aimed at students with valid ID. It almost seems as if you're taking advantage of the students by allowing in non-students purely to ensure you have a full event that you can add to your portfolio.

TommyGunne

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

I say it should be students only. Why call it the NSPC if anyone who likes play it? It just makes no sense to me. Otherwise it is just an average run of the mill tourney.

I wouldn't refuse anybody showing up on the day though, but for example if Jeff entered and took it down, I could imagine some grumblings from your typical naysayer about the fact that a non-student took it down. Obviously not from me! I'd enjoy a wider tourney as much as a restricted one, and would definitely not begrudge anyone, especially Jeff! It just seems to me that a student chaps that isn't that just makes a bit of a mockery of the name tbh.


Edit: Obv Jeff is the value, I vote that he can be a student for that day for prize pool purposes!

carfax

|.Murderer.| wrote: »

I don't think it's fair to word an option like that.

My own views are that this is the National Student Poker Championship and as such should be purely aimed at students with valid ID. It almost seems as if you're taking advantage of the students by allowing in non-students purely to ensure you have a full event that you can add to your portfolio.

How would you word it?....As I said I have no problem and am not biased either way (its less work for me if option A is voted for)......I simply want to see the best possible National Student Poker Champs take place.

I didn't realise I had a portfolio of anything other than art work.....How can it possibly seem like I am almost doing anything?

A full event benefits the players far more (bigger prize-pool) than the organiser here mate, as I said before in the main thread the more players we have the more our staff costs will be. How can this possibly be taking advantage of students especially when we have been and always will be completely upfront and open about our rules, terms, regulations etc etc etc.

How are the preparations going for the W.I.T. Open? Let me know if I can help in any way mate.

carfax

TommyGunne wrote: »

I say it should be students only. Why call it the NSPC if anyone who likes play it? It just makes no sense to me. Otherwise it is just an average run of the mill tourney.

I wouldn't refuse anybody showing up on the day though, but for example if Jeff entered and took it down, I could imagine some grumblings from your typical naysayer about the fact that a non-student took it down. Obviously not from me! I'd enjoy a wider tourney as much as a restricted one, and would definitely not begrudge anyone, especially Jeff! It just seems to me that a student chaps that isn't that just makes a bit of a mockery of the name tbh.


Edit: Obv Jeff is the value, I vote that he can be a student for that day for prize pool purposes!

I think you may not have read any of the posts that I have written up with regard to what you are talking about here.....I'm done talking about this now.

Pharell_st

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|.Murderer.| wrote: »

I don't think it's fair to word an option like that.

My own views are that this is the National Student Poker Championship and as such should be purely aimed at students with valid ID. It almost seems as if you're taking advantage of the students by allowing in non-students purely to ensure you have a full event that you can add to your portfolio.

I agree, why word it like you did i.e. (smaller prize pool likely, and option B ...be pernickety) its obviously a loaded vote. I see that option A is winning and rightly so.
I think connie makes a good point, loads of people would like to play in the intervarsities but they are not students and hence NOT ALLOWED.

TommyGunne wrote: »

I say it should be students only. Why call it the NSPC if anyone who likes play it? It just seems to me that a student chaps that isn't that just makes a bit of a mockery of the name tbh.

Absolutely agree

carfax wrote: »

How would you word it?....As I said I have no problem and am not biased either way (its less work for me if option A is voted for)......I simply want to see the best possible National Student Poker Champs take place.

I didn't realise I had a portfolio of anything other than art work.....How can it possibly seem like I am almost doing anything?

A full event benefits the players far more (bigger prize-pool) than the organiser here mate, as I said before in the main thread the more players we have the more our staff costs will be. How can this possibly be taking advantage of students especially when we have been and always will be completely upfront and open about our rules, terms, regulations etc etc etc.

Im pretty sure more players mean a higher profile tournament for you and your reputation, a large amount of reg fees, more scope for bargaining with the sponsors and => more money, otherwise you wouldnt run one at all, so don`t beat around the bush, you arent doing this for the good of our health.

carfax wrote: »

I think you may not have read any of the posts that I have written up with regard to what you are talking about here.....I'm done talking about this now.

In essence he is right, a mate of a student is pretty much anyone you like...

carfax

connie147 wrote: »

Oops, sorry Steven,I voted before reading that you didnt want non students voting. I think a National Students Championship is a great idea,but honestly,it just has to be kept as student only to deserve that title. Colleges football is played between college sudents just like a National students championship should be played amongst students.

If you want to involve both students and non students,then change the name of the event. If your tourney gets the media attention it deserves, how do you explain to the press that the National student champion for 2008 is (say for instance) Neil Kelly,Poker tour operator and casino owner. Or maybe this years champion is HJ,professional poker player.

I wouldn't have voted if I'd seen your request for a student only vote.But once I did,I felt I should air my views.

Connie

Hi Connie,

I can see the logic behind what you are saying alright but I think you've kind of missed the point (or at least a lot of my posts on the matter)....There is no way Kelly would stand a chance of winning this tournament, ha ha.....Seriously though the only reason that this has come about is because this is what lots of students have asked for and of course any pro or serious player would be given the boot before it started.

The fact that the votes are so close shows that there are a lot of mixed opinions on this.....It is a Student Championships that we are putting on. We are asking students what kind of tournament they want. At the moment the majority is for a strict policy, no non-students whatsoever allowed, if at the end of the poll that is the result we will happily and diligently put the tournament together with that format and I'm sure we can still make it a success (a full house).

If the vote goes for option two then we will be able to allow for some special cases; i.e. 6 students are studying together and one of their non-student friends (who plays in their home game all the time or whatever) wants to play...Hey happy days you can play.

Mr Minraise

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

carfax wrote: »

How would you word it?....As I said I have no problem and am not biased either way (its less work for me if option A is voted for)......I simply want to see the best possible National Student Poker Champs take place.
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This couldnt be futher from the truth. From reading your replies to requests that this should remain a student only tourny, its clear have a preference for option B, you even voted for it for some strange reason! (not exactly the way to run an open poll)

I think the tournement should be for current students only, Otherwise nothing will distungush it ,besides size, from your average weekly freezeout.

How would you propose to run the team event if you decide to go ahead with option B?

Would this be resevered for current students as an intervarsity competion or will we have a team of plumbers pipping UCD/UCC etc to the tittle.

Theresalwaysone

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

carfax wrote: »

I have a fair bit of experience of organising student tournaments and I am just going to say one thing; students players are the laziest demographic....Its really hard to convince them to do just about anything over staying in bed all day.

Whamo. Nail on head. I couldnt agree more. BUT we are also the demographic with possibly the biggest disposable income, if you can market in a way that convinces most students to get out of their home games and play this then you can't but win.

Get online micro stakes satellites. Give info to student players on how to run their own satellites.

Run, some student friendly satellites in the jackpot or whatnot. I know most students will have the income for this but if you start running "NSPC Satellites " if nothing else it gets the name out there and also students are very sheep like in that, if they see their mates qualify or buy in they are likely to do it themselves.

carfax

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Whamo. Nail on head. I couldnt agree more. BUT we are also the demographic with possibly the biggest disposable income, if you can market in a way that convinces most students to get out of their home games and play this then you can't but win.

Get online micro stakes satellites. Give info to student players on how to run their own satellites.

Run, some student friendly satellites in the jackpot or whatnot. I know most students will have the income for this but if you start running "NSPC Satellites " if nothing else it gets the name out there and also students are very sheep like in that, if they see their mates qualify or buy in they are likely to do it themselves.

lol,

yeah absolutely....We're planning all of the above whether we go with option A or option B.

Rossibaby

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carfax its simple in my eyes,what maes this tourny unique is its a student championship,if it wasnt then why would students care about it.therefore if some fourty year old non-student wins or gets down to the big money it takes the piss of the whole thing.this tourny should be just for the students.in galway here teh ''student'' rebuy is riddled with idiots and the inevitable joke of ''what are you studying'' is said every 20 mins to the 'mature' lads nd lassies...im not saying id essential but i would prefer a student only tourny[including mature ones] but all must be legitimate and if they are found not to be they give up all prize money one.not trying to be harsh but its a student championship!!

connie147

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carfax wrote: »

Hi Connie,

I can see the logic behind what you are saying alright but I think you've kind of missed the point (or at least a lot of my posts on the matter)....There is no way Kelly would stand a chance of winning this tournament, ha ha.....Seriously though the only reason that this has come about is because this is what lots of students have asked for and of course any pro or serious player would be given the boot before it started.

The fact that the votes are so close shows that there are a lot of mixed opinions on this.....It is a Student Championships that we are putting on. We are asking students what kind of tournament they want. At the moment the majority is for a strict policy, no non-students whatsoever allowed, if at the end of the poll that is the result we will happily and diligently put the tournament together with that format and I'm sure we can still make it a success (a full house).

If the vote goes for option two then we will be able to allow for some special cases; i.e. 6 students are studying together and one of their non-student friends (who plays in their home game all the time or whatever) wants to play...Hey happy days you can play.

Hi Steven,
I did read all your posts and I dont think I missed any points you made. I understand that you want to have a successfull tournament with large numbers,but quantity alone is not a recipe for success.

With the National Student Poker Championships,you have a unique oppertunity to host a tournament than any student that plays the game would give their eye teeth to win. Its an excellent chance for a Poker site to get involved with sponsoring a prestigous national tournament. By opening it up to non students, your playing with fire IMHO. A final table of non students and you can kiss goodbye to future runnings of this event.

I'm trying to think of an example of a tournament (in any sport) where what you want to do would be all-right, but I cant.
GAA-football u-21 c/ship--can my friend play as well.He's only 22 and he loves the game? Ans: definately not.
Snooker--National amatuer c/ship- Can Davy Morris play in the c/ship,he's a great friend of ours and he was an amatuer last year.I mean,he only turned pro 6 months ago? Ans: definately not.
Golf--Pierce purcell shield for clubs, can my friend play on the team,I know he's not a club member but he's a fantastic golfer and he'd be a big asset to the team? Ans: definately not.

I could go on and on.Maybe you'll say these are all totally different scenarios,and maybe they are. But my message is one of good faith. A national studant c/ship should be a huge tournament, fought out by students and won by a student. The tournament has the capacity to grow enormously over the next number of years. If you decide to allow non students participate,your doing the name of the tourney a dis-service.If you dont want to run a National Students (only) c/ship,then you shouldn't put the name to it that you are. And asking students to vote whether or not to allow non students to play in their "National Championship" so as to build a bigger prize-pool is not the way forward.The choice shouldn't be on the table.

Finally I'm gonna quote you from your 2nd paragraph in the above highlighted quote:
"It is a student championship we are putting on"
Do it.And prosper.

Connie

PS; Please don't take offence from this post Steven.I think your tournament has the makings of a huge event.(I started the National Snooker Club C/ships 20 years ago and its still going from strength to strength,but if it was opened up to allow clubs use non club members to play because x is friendly with y,the tournament would lose its appeal that it has). I do wish you luck with it.Think about it as a long term thing.

Theresalwaysone

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carfax wrote: »

if at the end of the poll that is the result we will happily and diligently put the tournament together with that format and I'm sure we can still make it a success (a full house).

carfax wrote: »

Check that every player has a valid student ID (smaller prize-pool very likely)

Ah here. WTF is going on?

Jesus Wept

non students are ppl's too.

bohsman

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Ah here. WTF is going on?

Think about it, a €7 reg fee can work if they can get 300 runners or whatever, if they have to cut some of their potential market out Id say the only alternative would be a bigger reg. By my estimate he needs 150 runners just to pay for the Regency for one day.

Theresalwaysone

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bohsman wrote: »

Think about it, a €7 reg fee can work if they can get 300 runners or whatever, if they have to cut some of their potential market out Id say the only alternative would be a bigger reg. By my estimate he needs 150 runners just to pay for the Regency for one day.

Thats not what I was querying, its the inconsistancies. Its hard to know what exactly Stephen is aiming for sometimes. If this is a profit driven excercise for his business(which it should be) then by all means accept everyone but dont call it the student champioships. If this is for the good of Irish poker as a whole (which I dont think needs saving) then by all means accept everyone.

If this is for students to come into the game at a more serious level then keep it to students. if this is for the good of student poker in Ireland then surely a student only event is paramount. It really is very simple.

Its all a tad confusing just what this tournament is, and who it is catering for. I know that the coming days and this polll should clear this up but at the moment,again, its all a bit in the air.

Anyway, this has all been said before.

maximusdecimus

I think it should be run just like last year,

A decent field, with a decent structure,played in good spirits and the fact that a proportion of the field wernt students didnt bother me, infact playing against some of the more familier faces on the scene was the most enjoyable.

It was a great day and a thourally enjoyable experience.

Id rather a bigger field with a bigger prize pool ahead of just strictly students.

I was a student then as i am still now so either way i will be playing,

Although i suppose it discredits the name of the tournament if the leniant view is chosen but if i was victorious over a field of 400 the fact that they were students or not wouldnt bother me in the slightest!!

G-Spotters

Come on fellas, open it up to u25s. Like a lot of graduates, i am forced to get a bit of experience before goin back to college, so technically not a registered student, but im always hungry and poor so what matters most!? And the prizepool is goin to be measley, i know people from the west wont bother travelling all the way to de big durty smoke if there isnt a cash reward.

phantom_lord

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Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Whamo. Nail on head. I couldnt agree more. BUT we are also the demographic with possibly the biggest disposable income, if you can market in a way that convinces most students to get out of their home games and play this then you can't but win.

Get online micro stakes satellites. Give info to student players on how to run their own satellites.

Run, some student friendly satellites in the jackpot or whatnot. I know most students will have the income for this but if you start running "NSPC Satellites " if nothing else it gets the name out there and also students are very sheep like in that, if they see their mates qualify or buy in they are likely to do it themselves.

huh?

I don't actually get why you're aiming this at students tbh, assuming it's like last time where you hope to make your money from an affliate deal, why would you bother signing up busto students who are gonna rake very very little?

Legend_DIT

Why did this discussion not come about last time?

Didn't Steven use the exact same criteria then as he planned to this year?

boba_fett3099

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

Students only. I think the majority has spoken. End of.

Goodluck2me

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Legend_DIT wrote: »

Why did this discussion not come about last time?

Didn't Steven use the exact same criteria then as he planned to this year?

because everyone last year presumed as per the title that it would be students only, and a no. of people were disappointed that it wasnt.

LABLHEAD

why are so many students afraid of a big field, and afraid of playing against people who arent students?? The bigger the tournament is, the more fun it will be for everyone... Its guna attract mainly young people so whats the difference if theyre in college or not?

The Clamper

i would have thought that the students would want to beat up the dinosaurs

its students i fear most at a table, they are usually fearless and have more stamina for the long haul big starting stack events and generally more mentally alert / fit

they wont let me play this one, the last time i was a student of anything was 1974 and i wasnt even a good one then, most of my school days were spent playing golf or snooker

i have been fortunate enough and done ok, i can only imagine how well i would have done if i had actually studied

but then all the benefits of youth are wasted on the young

LABLHEAD

it should be up to the people who are organising the tournament in the first place anyways

carfax

LABLHEAD wrote: »

it should be up to the people who are organising the tournament in the first place anyways

It is but we have to cater to our player's needs, we've said that we are going to go with what the majority want on this one.....

My worry is (in terms of achieving the field of 400 players) that the likes of your gang won't travel if one or two of the group aren't allowed to play.....However, when the majority speaks at the end of the poll (its only open 'til Monday) we will be going with whatever decision is reached.

Theresalwaysone

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LABLHEAD wrote: »

why are so many students afraid of a big field, and afraid of playing against people who arent students?? The bigger the tournament is, the more fun it will be for everyone... Its guna attract mainly young people so whats the difference if theyre in college or not?

I think "afraid" is entirely the wrong word here. It has nothing to do with fear.

Also, the bigger it is does not make it more enjoyable. In fact, I think Pker Tourneys suffer from Diminishing returns.

The better the structure it is, makes it a more enjoyable tourney.

Also, in reply to Phantoms quoting of my "students have more disposable income". I think its true, a lot of the value live is from drunk students who have cash to gamble. Myself included. Also, Poker is a huge game within most if not all of the universities around Ireland.

I do think tho, that convincing students with dough to break out of their homegames and play this should be TOP TOP priority.

carfax

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

I do think tho, that convincing students with dough to break out of their homegames and play this should be TOP TOP priority.

It is seriously....I've been emailing and have not received a response from the vast majority of colleges so far, but that has not perturbed us in the past and this promo campaign will be no different.

Flyers, posters and badges will be posted to every college in the country next week and there are a lot of poker clubs that have already volunteered to run satellites on their student nights.

TommyGunne

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carfax wrote: »

I think you may not have read any of the posts that I have written up with regard to what you are talking about here.....I'm done talking about this now.

Completely out of context, and taken way too literally.

I'd love these to be a success too, as it is a good idea, and am not criticising, but only lending a view, which students were asked to do in this thread.

I wouldn't particularly be bothered about the prize fund, as I is a cash donk and am just added value myself, but I just think to have the winner being able to say that he/she is the National Student Poker Champion if the event is open is akin to saying the winner of the Jackpot €20 claiming the same.

The outcome doesn't really bother me too much, as it will very unlikely affect me!

carfax

Come on guys please get the word out to anyone you know that is interested in playing in this tournament.....Ask them to vote today.

It will make the decision a lot easier for us if it is not as close as it is right now (quite a few votes from non-students for both options).

LABLHEAD

carfax wrote: »

It is but we have to cater to our player's needs, we've said that we are going to go with what the majority want on this one.....

My worry is (in terms of achieving the field of 400 players) that the likes of your gang won't travel if one or two of the group aren't allowed to play.....However, when the majority speaks at the end of the poll (its only open 'til Monday) we will be going with whatever decision is reached.

Yeah I think that will be a big problem, cutting out people without student cards will lead to lots of people not going if theyr friends cant.... Its different for people who live in Dublin like, students there will go anyway, coz its not a big effort for them, but people arent going to travel up in 2s and 3s if theyre friends who they normally play with cant go, they just wont bother.
I think alot of the people voting on this arent considering that aspect....

Ace2007

Aim advertising primarily at students but don't be too pernickerty.

This is turning into an absolute joke stephen - you called in the NSPC for the simple reason it was aimed towards students, no point letting everyone play - thats like saying paddypower will open up the ladies only event to everyone as it will create a bigger field and hence a bigger prize pool.