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Lodden/Busto/Trojan any info ??

  • 14-02-2008 6:00pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭


    the dude with the poker tic posted this in another tread earlier and I'm intrigued by it, has anyone any info on it or believe there's any substance to it

    NickyOD wrote: »
    Technically he didn't go busto by playing bad. He had a trojan planted on his computer where this guy could see his hole cards and took him to the cleaners.

    There was one famous hand where the guy called him down with pocket fours when the board was all paint and won.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    lol you're probably levelling but what happened was TheTerrorist was apparantly a huge donator then suddenly beat Lodden for about $2m or so and lodden became really irate and spread a rumour (which was backed up by TexasLimitKing) that TheTerrorist (also called FastFreddie) sent him a trojan that allowed him to see his hole cards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    nicnicnic wrote: »
    the dude with the poker tic posted this in another tread earlier and I'm intrigued by it, has anyone any info on it or believe there's any substance to it

    lodden was playing mohamed kosserie or something like that. His handles was fast freddie. Lodden was the king of prima. fast freddie took a bunch of mula from lodden. they had the biggest pot in online ppoker history. apparently lodden took his comp to the comp fixing shop and the comp fixer said you have a trojan you know? lodden then said they traced it to fast freddies computer. i dont think this was ever proved and there was never anything done about it. fast freddie/mohammed is well connected with the hells angels in sweden so this may have something to do with nothing be done. fast freddie plays as terror of sweeden on full tilt now. recently high stakes player and deucescrackd coach krantz/pr1nnyraid/jay rosenkrantz said terror of sweeden had mongoloid bat wings in the chat box and apparently someone then informed him who he had said that to and he crapped his pants and had the mods delete the corresponding thread on 2+2.


    the terrorists website: http://www.theterrorist.org/flashfilmen.html its hilarious


    fast freddie: http://www.pokerverdict.com/Interviews/1425/player_interview_fast_freddie.html

    biggest pot evaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: http://www.highstakesdb.com/forum/Topic8466-16-1.aspx?Url=/forum/Topic8466-16-1.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭dannydiamond


    lol you're probably levelling but what happened was TheTerrorist was apparantly a huge donator then suddenly beat Lodden for about $2m or so and lodden became really irate and spread a rumour (which was backed up by TexasLimitKing) that TheTerrorist (also called FastFreddie) sent him a trojan that allowed him to see his hole cards.

    Thats a good one a trojan,blame anything....so that's why i don't always win,the fkers can see my cards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭RichieLawlor


    Thats a good one a trojan,blame anything....so that's why i don't always win,the fkers can see my cards.

    QFT, not in the obvious way danny but the way you play it aint hard to figure out :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    lodden was playing mohamed kosserie or something like that. His handles was fast freddie. Lodden was the king of prima. fast freddie took a bunch of mula from lodden. they had the biggest pot in online ppoker history. apparently lodden took his comp to the comp fixing shop and the comp fixer said you have a trojan you know? lodden then said they traced it to fast freddies computer. i dont think this was ever proved and there was never anything done about it. fast freddie/mohammed is well connected with the hells angels in sweden so this may have something to do with nothing be done. fast freddie plays as terror of sweeden on full tilt now. recently high stakes player and deucescrackd coach krantz/pr1nnyraid/jay rosenkrantz said terror of sweeden had mongoloid bat wings in the chat box and apparently someone then informed him who he had said that to and he crapped his pants and had the mods delete the corresponding thread on 2+2.


    biggest pot evaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: http://www.highstakesdb.com/forum/Topic8466-16-1.aspx?Url=/forum/Topic8466-16-1.aspx

    I watched that session and as I remember they both quit it even ( could be wrong as it was about 18 months ago i think ) after many swings; 40k was the table buy in limit


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭meathman 007


    not sure about that rumour, but i remember watching lodden in a william hill grand prix heat a while back - he put in a scary performance imo, dont think i have ever seen someone win so many pots with the worst hand in the tv heat format...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    not sure about that rumour, but i remember watching lodden in a william hill grand prix heat a while back - he put in a scary performance imo, dont think i have ever seen someone win so many pots with the worst hand in the tv heat format...

    I remember watching this too and thinking at the time this boy could play poker !!!

    Opr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭hotspur


    Let's not forget the H@llingol and Rekul computer cheating thingy too. H@ll convinced himself that Rekrul had done something similar. Of course like Lodden H@ll was a degenerate who couldn't accept that he was outplayed. Until he pretty much went busto too. These egos can't accept it's their fault. Niki Jedlicka is probably telling himself that right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭dannydiamond


    QFT, not in the obvious way danny but the way you play it aint hard to figure out :p

    Button it donkeyboy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭opr


    hotspur wrote: »
    Niki Jedlicka is probably telling himself that right now.

    Is he busto now ?

    Opr


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    opr wrote: »
    Is he busto now ?

    Opr

    no and neither is h@ll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    fast_freddie has the best website ever. That is all that needs to be said.

    Also, I personally don't believe the trojan crap. Lodden was just out played, out varianced, whatever, it happens to all the top guys, and will happen to the current top guys as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    Yeah the trojan thing is all bullsh1t imo.

    loddens a total degen and lost a heap on other forms of gambling which he sucked at; sports betting etc

    He then of course dumped that half a mill to fast freddie and god knows how much he spewed away afterwards

    bad_ip>BURN IN HELL ASSHOOLE
    Fast_Freddie> I think u should tell that to my face next time we meet
    Fast_Freddie> if you have anything to say
    Fast_Freddie> say it
    bad_ip> leave
    Fast_Freddie> you are a chicken head
    Fast_Freddie> You are so lame you don’t even look me in the eye when we meet
    Fast_Freddie> Enough talking, we can settle this next time I see u


    Your man fast_freddie seems to be a total wanker though, the prahlad friedman thing etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭Daithio


    That website is absolutely brilliant.

    What was the Prahlad Friedman thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭ZZR1100


    Daithio wrote: »
    That website is absolutely brilliant.

    What was the Prahlad Friedman thing?

    not quite sure but this is in his interview



    I am disappointed the media just takes note of huge MTT players when, in fact, a lot of the online cash game players are better poker players. Poker is not just about playing A-A. The only player that can put a permanent karma curse on you is Prahlad Friedman, and believe me you don’t want that to happen!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭cokedrinker


    he slowrolled friedman with the nut straight in a >100k pot

    http://www.pokerverdict.com/Poker-Players-Club/Focus/895/who_is_fast_freddie.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    Playing no limit holdem with $200/$400 blinds Zweig(friedman) raises with pocket 9s and Fast_Freddie calls with Q-J. The flop comes 9c-10h-3s. Zweig bets the pot with his set and Fast_Freddie calls. The turn is the Kc, giving Fast_Freddie a straight. He checks and Zweig takes the bait and bets the pot. Fast_Freddie raises and now Zweig re-raises all-in. The controversy starts here as now Fast_Freddie lets his clock run down to the very last possible second before calling. As he does this he also types in the chat box, “U like nuts Z?” and then, “Have some”. The river is a brick and Fast_Freddie wins a $100,000 plus pot as well as ironing out Zweig.

    Unsurprisingly, Zweig was not happy with what he considered a slowroll and let Fast_Freddie know. Here is a sample of the chat box after the hand was over.

    Zweig> slowroll you fking dck
    Zweig> HOPE I DONT RUN INTO U
    Zweig> YOU DCK
    Fast_Freddie> hahahaha
    Zweig> KARMA
    Zweig> WILL FK U
    Fast_Freddie> or WHAT?
    Zweig> 100%
    Zweig> YOU FK
    Fast_Freddie> oh go to bed
    Zweig> only pure s* do that
    Zweig> only pure s*
    Zweig> seriously you fk
    Fast_Freddie> i didnt think of it that way
    Fast_Freddie> seriously
    Zweig> live with yourself
    Zweig> must be horror
    Fast_Freddie> took time to type
    Fast_Freddie> yea
    Zweig> fk u
    Zweig> you fk
    .


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,040 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    the terrorists website: http://www.theterrorist.org/flashfilmen.html its hilarious

    Fantastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    I wonder is there people out there that put out poker related software that does or doesent work with a virus that allows the viewer access to view their desktop. Theres any amount of remote software out there so its just a matter of editing it so the user dosent suspect anything and they could be just taking a small amount each time, just enough for you not to notice by value betting thinner, pushing on the river when they know you cant call etc

    It would be in most poker players interest to be more careful than normal and make sure your system is well scanned for viruses and malicious programs, properly firewalled etc for peace of mind if nothing else because im sure if it can be done then there is people out there doing it, if they are clever enough too they should go a long time without being noticed if ever. Of course this will probably feed the imagination of paranoid people but its worth considering especially if you play medium to high stakes your obviouslly going to be a target.

    On that topic i know unsecured wireless networks are too common and someone pulling up outside your house with a wirelss laptop can get access to your shared folder quite easily if you have anything in them, but can they penetrate any further than that easily or would it involve serious decrypting tools and other hacking tools?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    There are definitely trojans and viruses that can do this, and people playing even mid stakes should have a dedicated Poker computer IMO, with NOTHING else on it. If I played professionally at any decent level this is the first thing I'd do. If I played nose bleed levels, I'd hire an IT company to set up my system so these things can't happen, it always baffles me people don't take these precautions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭hotspur


    no and neither is h@ll

    What makes you say that? Bearing in mind there is busto and "busto". H@ll did get his roll crushed. Do you have any idea how much Nikki has lost recently? There was an opinion from some of the high stakes players that Nikki's success was mostly a case of variance. I dunno if that was true. I hope he isn't in too bad shape, he is good friends with a friend of mine and apparently he's a really nice guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 speedytom


    Sounds like defo got cheated to me. Most high stakes Swedish players will tell you that fast freddy cheated him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    speedytom wrote: »
    Sounds like defo got cheated to me. Most high stakes Swedish players will tell you that fast freddy cheated him.

    Fast Freddy And Speedy Tom.............a coincidence?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 955 ✭✭✭sickpuppy


    Last i heard of speedy tom he was cleaning out poor bluescouse heads up on betfair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    That terrorist video is brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    What kind of terrorist has a Chihuahua.
    We all know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    hotspur wrote: »
    What makes you say that? Bearing in mind there is busto and "busto". H@ll did get his roll crushed. Do you have any idea how much Nikki has lost recently? There was an opinion from some of the high stakes players that Nikki's success was mostly a case of variance. I dunno if that was true. I hope he isn't in too bad shape, he is good friends with a friend of mine and apparently he's a really nice guy.
    kaibuxxed pulled 4.5 mil or something just out of the ftp plo games over 6 weeks. i think hes down about 2 million since becoming a ftp pro lol. hes far from busto. he was playing 500/1k plo at aussie millions. as for [EMAIL="h@ll"]h@ll[/EMAIL] hes living it up in brazil with ahh-snap and some other high stakers. I wouldnt belive everything you read in NVG about [EMAIL="h@lls"]h@lls[/EMAIL] roll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭dannydiamond


    kaibuxxed pulled 4.5 mil or something just out of the ftp plo games over 6 weeks. i think hes down about 2 million since becoming a ftp pro lol. hes far from busto. he was playing 500/1k plo at aussie millions. as for [EMAIL="h@ll"]h@ll[/EMAIL] hes living it up in brazil with ahh-snap and some other high stakers. I wouldnt belive everything you read in NVG about [EMAIL="h@lls"]h@lls[/EMAIL] roll.

    Where do you get all this useless information?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭mocata


    I have seen screenshots from people's posts that would give me plenty of clues about how to start hacking them. Identify someone with slack security (70%+ of users) visit a website you have made, that will run some code and install a keylogger/screengrabber. Anyone wants any advice on their setup gimme a shout, its pretty much one of the things i do for a living :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    I'm inclined to believe the story is true and it's been backed up by many reputable scandi sources. There are some hands that Lodden lost that basically defy logic like being called down on all streets for big pots by under-pairs to the entire board and King high.

    About six of his his scandi mates got together and approached the guy and he paid Lodden back 100K to keep quiet and basically said that's all you're getting, take it or leave it. The guy is apparently some well connected scandi Mafia man so there wasn't much Lodden could do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭Fatboydim


    So if I read this right everyone who's now visited his site and seen the video now has a trojan? :D

    Thank the pokr gods I have a Mac and he can't steal my $50 roll


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    NickyOD wrote: »
    I'm inclined to believe the story is true and it's been backed up by many reputable scandi sources. There are some hands that Lodden lost that basically defy logic like being called down on all streets for big pots by under-pairs to the entire board and King high.

    About six of his his scandi mates got together and approached the guy and he paid Lodden back 100K to keep quiet and basically said that's all you're getting, take it or leave it. The guy is apparently some well connected scandi Mafia man so there wasn't much Lodden could do.

    I dunno Nicky I think lodden might have a vivid imagination, Valor stacked him a few times on the cash tables in Prague last year and later I herd him in the bar telling his friends about the Irishman he thought was a terrorist that had a fisheye camera set up on the tables


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    That sounds like Valor alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭strewelpeter


    Fatboydim wrote: »
    So if I read this right everyone who's now visited his site and seen the video now has a trojan? :D

    Thank the pokr gods I have a Mac and he can't steal my $50 roll
    Its funny and a little worrying to see a thread where one guy accuses a high stakes online player of planting something that steals information from his computer and then everyone goes to the site of the accused and allows his code to run on their machine.
    I had a bit of a look at it and the site seems to be pretty clean, basically just plays the flash file and that doesn't show any trace of leaving anything behind it (firefox running on vista). What can and can't be done by playing a flash file is a grey area, the thing is though that more or less anything is possible once you are allowed execute code on a computer, if you reallllly want to.

    William Burroughs said "A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on."
    Anyone who plays nosebleed stakes simply must ensure that they are running a clean machine on a secure network.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Fatboydim wrote: »
    So if I read this right everyone who's now visited his site and seen the video now has a trojan? :D

    Thank the pokr gods I have a Mac and he can't steal my $50 roll
    Ages ago, his site was posted on 2+2 and people were worried about it, and IIRC the 2+2 boffins checked it out and it was passed as clean, much like strewelpeter did. This was a good while ago, so he may have changed it, but I don't believe all the crap from Lodden. The scandi sources all just sounds like hearsay and idol worshipping to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭hotspur


    kaibuxxed pulled 4.5 mil or something just out of the ftp plo games over 6 weeks. i think hes down about 2 million since becoming a ftp pro lol. hes far from busto. he was playing 500/1k plo at aussie millions. as for [EMAIL="h@ll"]h@ll[/EMAIL] hes living it up in brazil with ahh-snap and some other high stakers. I wouldnt belive everything you read in NVG about [EMAIL="h@lls"]h@lls[/EMAIL] roll.

    And Nikki got crushed in that game in Australia. We'll see in a few weeks when he's here if he jumps into the 1/2 plhe sidegame when he busts out of the IO :)

    H@ll all but admitted a few months ago about his virtual busto status. And I've yet to believe anything I've ever read in NVG...except every Brandi post obv :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    NickyOD wrote: »
    I'm inclined to believe the story is true and it's been backed up by many reputable scandi sources. There are some hands that Lodden lost that basically defy logic like being called down on all streets for big pots by under-pairs to the entire board and King high.

    About six of his his scandi mates got together and approached the guy and he paid Lodden back 100K to keep quiet and basically said that's all you're getting, take it or leave it. The guy is apparently some well connected scandi Mafia man so there wasn't much Lodden could do.

    Why not raise the river if Lodden can't call? And continue to rinse him for further sessions, because Lodden would keep coming back for more, the ego is there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 585 ✭✭✭a147pro


    NickyOD wrote: »

    About six of his his scandi mates got together and approached the guy and he paid Lodden back 100K to keep quiet and basically said that's all you're getting, take it or leave it. The guy is apparently some well connected scandi Mafia man so there wasn't much Lodden could do.

    1. He evidentally didn't keep quiet
    2. Why would a well connected mafia guy pay someone to keep them quiet?
    3. Why would a well connected mafia guy pay back any money won on a scam?
    4. Why would the other scandis risk approaching / pressurising a well connected mafia guy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭Requiem4adream


    a147pro wrote: »
    1. He evidentally didn't keep quiet
    2. Why would a well connected mafia guy pay someone to keep them quiet?
    3. Why would a well connected mafia guy pay back any money won on a scam?
    4. Why would the other scandis risk approaching / pressurising a well connected mafia guy?

    That was also your 147th post! What are the odds :D A good one too!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    That was also your 147th post! What are the odds :D A good one too!!

    Hmm well he had to make his 147th post sometime :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    a147pro wrote: »
    1. He evidentally didn't keep quiet
    2. Why would a well connected mafia guy pay someone to keep them quiet?
    3. Why would a well connected mafia guy pay back any money won on a scam?
    4. Why would the other scandis risk approaching / pressurising a well connected mafia guy?
    Logic, I banish thee from a conspiracy theory thread, you are not welcome!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭dbs_sailor


    Its funny and a little worrying to see a thread where one guy accuses a high stakes online player of planting something that steals information from his computer and then everyone goes to the site of the accused and allows his code to run on their machine.
    I had a bit of a look at it and the site seems to be pretty clean, basically just plays the flash file and that doesn't show any trace of leaving anything behind it (firefox running on vista). What can and can't be done by playing a flash file is a grey area, the thing is though that more or less anything is possible once you are allowed execute code on a computer, if you reallllly want to.

    Yeah, to be quite honest, it's usually technically illiterate people who make claims about trojans and being able to remotely view people's desktops without them knowing...

    Any of those asshole-ish, remote access type tools had a shelf life of 2 weeks at best before the McAffees and Nortons of the world had updated their software to protect against them. This was back in 2001 - that sort of time. AFAIK there's nothing whatsoever that could slip through even the most basic firewall/virus checker combo.. You'd know all about it if there was.

    And the other thing is that some sort of interaction has to take place between the intended victim idiot who spends his time in his mother's basement playing with these programs. i.e. The victim had to be silly enough to run a suspicious looking .exe file or [rarely] open a .jpg file... But this simply isn't a viable method anymore, firewalls block incoming/outgoing packets if they're in any way dodgy at all... This isn't really an option in poker seeing as how the only contact you have with the players [usually] is in the chatbox...

    If you've got a firewall set up and any sort of virus checking program you're safe IMO. If you're really paranoid - changing important passwords regularly and making sure your software is up to date will help. But it's definately nothing to worry about..

    Being paranoid about poker/hacker types stealing your online cash is the computer equivalent of building a fallout trench in your back yard for when a nuclear war starts.

    p.s. Oh and embedding a trojan to a flash document? That's ridiculous. Most of those trojan's can be reverse engineered to incriminate the "hacker", so it'd be unbelievably stupid to put it up on a website if it were even possible for him to infect people with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    conanm wrote: »
    Yeah, to be quite honest, it's usually technically illiterate people who make claims about trojans and being able to remotely view people's desktops without them knowing...

    Any of those asshole-ish, remote access type tools had a shelf life of 2 weeks at best before the McAffees and Nortons of the world had updated their software to protect against them. This was back in 2001 - that sort of time. AFAIK there's nothing whatsoever that could slip through even the most basic firewall/virus checker combo.. You'd know all about it if there was.

    And the other thing is that some sort of interaction has to take place between the intended victim idiot who spends his time in his mother's basement playing with these programs. i.e. The victim had to be silly enough to run a suspicious looking .exe file or [rarely] open a .jpg file... But this simply isn't a viable method anymore, firewalls block incoming/outgoing packets if they're in any way dodgy at all... This isn't really an option in poker seeing as how the only contact you have with the players [usually] is in the chatbox...

    If you've got a firewall set up and any sort of virus checking program you're safe IMO. If you're really paranoid - changing important passwords regularly and making sure your software is up to date will help. But it's definately nothing to worry about..

    Being paranoid about poker/hacker types stealing your online cash is the computer equivalent of building a fallout trench in your back yard for when a nuclear war starts.

    p.s. Oh and embedding a trojan to a flash document? That's ridiculous. Most of those trojan's can be reverse engineered to incriminate the "hacker", so it'd be unbelievably stupid to put it up on a website if it were even possible for him to infect people with it.

    I was a network administrator for 5 years between 2000 and 2006. I have hacked people's PCs and taken them over completely without their knowledge. We once hired an IT security company to try and hack what we thought was a pretty secure network and they got in pretty easily, accessed peoples desktops and left files all over the place.

    Trojans like the one mentioned have been around a lot longer than 2001.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭dbs_sailor


    Nicky, when I mentioned 2001 I was talking about the Sub7 type RAT trojans that were popular back then. I'm well aware that there's been hundreds of releases of various different programs since then and before, but I was under the impression that after all of that RAT popularity the big virus companies wised up and got very quick about responding to them. Correct me if I'm wrong, anyhow.

    I don't see how your personal exploits bear any relevance to the conversation, tbh. We're talking about a single computer with a dynamic IP with a user who has really no contact with the prospective hacker. You're communicating with the gaming server and have no real contact with the players machines, AFAIK. Again, correct me if I'm wrong..

    My point is I don't see how they're going to 1) find someone's current ip address and 2) infect this user with a trojan without them noticing... Incoming & outgoing stuff is monitored very closely by personal firewalls. I'm well aware that there's tricks that can be pulled, but surely you need some kind of contact with the intended victim to begin with.

    I mean, I'm playing in one part of the world - you're playing in another. We both have no contact with eachother, only the server in the middle... I don't see how you can launch any sort of attack on me unless I've been accepting nude photos off you on msn or something. :D

    BTW I'm also well aware that once you're infected with a trojan, the server.exe can send off your IP address & port no. that's open to the hacker to deal with dynamic IP addresses. But then surely that'd be a liability as you can reverse engineer these files to so as to get details of the attacker... That's serious time you're looking at just to get ahead on $50nl.

    Anyhow, my point is I feel that you may be worrying people unnecessarily with your post. I'd love to hear your response as I think this is a really interesting topic that we'll be allowed discuss so long as it doesn't get too specific.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy


    conanm wrote: »
    Nicky, when I mentioned 2001 I was talking about the Sub7 type RAT trojans that were popular back then. I'm well aware that there's been hundreds of releases of various different programs since then and before, but I was under the impression that after all of that RAT popularity the big virus companies wised up and got very quick about responding to them. Correct me if I'm wrong, anyhow.

    I don't see how your personal exploits bear any relevance to the conversation, tbh. We're talking about a single computer with a dynamic IP with a user who has really no contact with the prospective hacker. You're communicating with the gaming server and have no real contact with the players machines, AFAIK. Again, correct me if I'm wrong..

    My point is I don't see how they're going to 1) find someone's current ip address and 2) infect this user with a trojan without them noticing... Incoming & outgoing stuff is monitored very closely by personal firewalls. I'm well aware that there's tricks that can be pulled, but surely you need some kind of contact with the intended victim to begin with.

    I mean, I'm playing in one part of the world - you're playing in another. We both have no contact with eachother, only the server in the middle... I don't see how you can launch any sort of attack on me unless I've been accepting nude photos off you on msn or something. :D

    BTW I'm also well aware that once you're infected with a trojan, the server.exe can send off your IP address & port no. that's open to the hacker to deal with dynamic IP addresses. But then surely that'd be a liability as you can reverse engineer these files to so as to get details of the attacker... That's serious time you're looking at just to get ahead on $50nl.

    Anyhow, my point is I feel that you may be worrying people unnecessarily with your post. I'd love to hear your response as I think this is a really interesting topic that we'll be allowed discuss so long as it doesn't get too specific.

    but there was contact between there PC's etc.

    Lodden claim to have download a flash file from his website. This website was later test and no virus were found.

    When there's millions involved, I would pay someone to break into his house and infect the machine for me so I can get access to his whole cards, even if I couldn't get him to download a virus/trojan from my website. They also communicated by msn and skype. I dont think its that far fetch, but very rare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,308 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    Without any proof on either side, you must go for the simplest solution....i.e. he lost his bankroll fair and square. It would be crazy to believe otherwise, what with the fantastical elements mentioned in the thread above (Swedish mafia involvement, computer hacker geniuses, etc...) and absolutely no proof offered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭58o


    "swedish Mafia". Just doesnt sound right, not the least bit intimidating sounding. i'd take my chances with them over the russians or italians any day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    58o wrote: »
    "swedish Mafia". Just doesnt sound right, not the least bit intimidating sounding. i'd take my chances with them over the russians or italians any day.

    LOL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    IIRC the original story involved Isreali mafia I think, I certainly don't think it was originally Swedish Mafia. But meh, my memory could be wrong, but I just remember it not being Swedish at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Israeli mafia, now thats more like it. They wouldn't take any ****


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