Edged Weapons

Dr Strange

Ok, this is for collectors only. Just thought I'll make that clear again. Only genuine militaria collection.

Starting of with a nice bayonet made by Weyersberg Kirschbaum & Co. Solingen. Modelo Argentino 1891. Nice stamps and markings. Unfortunately, the blade was sharpened at some stage. Never ever do that to a bayonet or militaria dagger/knife!

Dr Strange

An original Hitler Jugend (Hitler Youth) knife with double makers mark from Solingen including RZM stamp (Reichszeugmeisterei). Blade not sharpened and motto still nice (Blut und Ehre = Blood and Honour). Note that HJ knives did come with and without motto!
The handle has no cracks and contains the original diamond (also called Pastille or Raute) which is moveable. The chrome-plating on the cross-guard and top is almost gone. Some scuff marks on the blade but otherwise in nice condition retaining pin-point tip.

Morlar

Excellent pieces there - incredible condition on the bayonet in particular. The bayonet is from an argentinian made rifle yep ? does that mean it was from the argentinian military or would they have been in use in other armies too ?

Dr Strange

Morlar wrote: »

Excellent pieces there - incredible condition on the bayonet in particular. The bayonet is from an argentinian made rifle yep ? does that mean it was from the argentinian military or would they have been in use in other armies too ?

Hi Morlar,

this bayonet has been made for the Mauser Infantry Rifle. Here's a little info on it from another website (link below):

arms2armor.com wrote:

This bayonet was designed to fit the Modelo Argentino 1891 Mauser Infantry Rifle, manufactured in Germany under contract. Most of these bayonets - if not all - were manufactured by Weyersberg, Kirschbaum, and Cie (sic!). (company).
They are extremely well made and are usually found in very-good to excellent condition. It is usually found with an aluminum hilt - although some are found with brass hilts (* indicating "Navy" usage) - steel crossguard, and hooked "blade-breaker" quillon. The latching mechanism is of the push-button/internal-spring type.
The blades are straight, single-edged, and fullered on both sides. The blades are usually stamped - on the ricasso - with Weyersberg, Kirschbaum & Cie (sic!) / Solingen on one side, while on the other is the Argentine Crest (this is usually ground off when released from the arsenal as surplus wares) and Modelo Argentino 1891.
The scabbards are of sheet-rolled steel, ball finial, and are usually dark "blued" finish (almost black).

Both bayonet and scabbard are stamped with a serial number, beginning with an alpha-character prefix, followed by a 4-digit number. It is desired by collectors that both bayonet and scabbard numbers match; otherwise they are considered mis-matched.
The alpha-character indicates the ten-thousand unit, presumed in order from A to Z. The alpha-character A represents the first ten-thousand, so all serial numbers beginning with A are from the first 10,000 of a production order. This would be followed by a B, then C and so on and so forth through the alphabet. A9785 would indicate bayonet number 9,785; B9785 would indicate bayonet number 19,785. It is also presumed that serial number A0001 would indicate bayonet number 0001; serial number A0000 would indicate bayonet number 10,000. When single alpha-characters are exhausted, production prefixes change to double alpha-character prefixes, such as: AA, BB, CC and so on.

These were superseded by the Model 1909 Mauser Sword Bayonet (very similar but a little larger and with wood grips).

* It has been suggested that the "brass grip" version of this bayonet was used by "Police" units as well as "Navy."

Underlined by me.

LINK: http://www.arms2armor.com/Bayonets/arg1891a.htm

Best,
Preusse

SpitfireIV

Nice pieces Preusse!

I have to admit I dont know all that much about German/mauser bayonets, there seems to be tons of variants and contract pieces! Bluchers, saw backs, ersatz (spelling?) Spanish, Agentinian, Mexican.........all to much for my meager brain . I prefer the British/Commonwealth system, far more refined and conservative

Dr Strange

CroppyBoy1798 wrote: »

Nice pieces Preusse!

... I prefer the British/Commonwealth system, far more refined and conservative

Thanks CB1798. If you do have British or other edged weapons please introduce them here. It's not just for German stuff but everything militaria related. I am only posting my items and due to my field of interest it is almost 99% German.

Best,
Preusse

José Alaninho

First post in this section, so here goes. I have a rather respectable little collection of Third Reich militaria, mostly medals and docs but a few edged pieces as well. Was just wondering if anyone could help me out with one. I have an SA dagger with a ground-off Rohm inscription (the makers mark, a vertical "F. Dick", confirms this). The thing is, the grip guards are golden colour rather than silver. I don't think it's ageing or wear. I have heard vague ideas of some sort of 'marine' or 'navy' variation, but is this true?

Another thing, a previous owner (possibly even the original owner) gouged out the grip eagle and glued an eagle from an Infantry assault medal in its place. Strange indeed, but I think it makes for a nice customized (if a little rough) look.

Dr Strange

Hi José,

first of all, welcome and thanks for your first post here. I would be very interested in your collection and it would be great to see pictures of various items. Why not start with the SA dagger?

Yes, the Kriegsmarine SA was slightly different. If the plating of the cross-guards are indeed golden for these I will have to check for you.

José Alaninho

Just an update: I have since noticed, on close inspection, that the motto 'Alles fur Deutschland' on the blade has traces of gold leaf remaining! That makes this a Kriegsmarine ground-Rohm honour Dagger with gold-leaf inscription, if I'm not mistaken! If it wasn't for the grip eagle being defaced would this be worth a hell of a lot more than I thought?

I'll try to get a picture up soon, broadband is currently down so it may be a while. I have several other curious items that I may need some help with as well, so... anyone up for a bit of mystery solving?:)

José Alaninho

Here we go! Excuse the quality, taken on a phone in a hurry

First one is full view, second is the grips and crossguards. As you can see, overall condition is not great but a curious piece nonetheless...

Dr Strange

Thanks for posting the pics. A real pity about the eagle. :eek:

Please feel free to open a thread with "Mystery items". Other's can post their items there too if they have any questions about it.

danpatjoe

Here's my addition to this thread... One of my more recent purchases, An SA dagger from the firm of Emil Voos, Solingen. It's my second (almost)complete SA, and while it has some minor problems, it's in a lot better condition than my first!. Unfortunately, missing its suspension ring (has since been replaced along with an original hanger)





For some reason, the blade looks slightly off-centre in these photographs, but it must be the angle they were taken at, because viewed in hand, it looks fine.





The scabbard is in good condition retaining most of it's anodised brown finish (again, a few minor marks and one dent on the reverse (has to be held to the light to see this). The tip does have gouges and scratches on the reverse and the ball is slightly flatened. It's a good tight and solid fit to the dagger with no movement when in place.

I think it finishes off my display quite nicely!

- Dan

Dr Strange

Hi Dan,

what a beautiful display! :eek: Love it, want one.

Just a suggestion: It would be better for people with dial-up modems if the pics aren't so big. One way to reduce them is to display them as thumbnails which the viewer can click and see the original large picture. Imageshack is one site that lets you store all your images and adds thumbnail option for forum displays etc. Just a thought.

arnhem44

Sorry guys,this is all i have,not my field of collecting really,i like the Mosin Nagant one the most with the cruxiform blade,postwar issue or unissued i guess,quite fresh looking and no serial number to be seen

Dr Strange

Hi arnhem44,

nice, tyhanks for posting. It doesn't matter how many items someone has. It is always nice to see what is being collected.

danpatjoe

Some great bayonets there, and in very good condition.

I have only one - a german K98, dated 1940 with a mismatched scabbard. Not my collecting area at all, but the price was right!

It's a rather salty Eu.F Horster with bakelite grips and most of the blueing remaining on the blade.

I have a question about the Waffenampt stamps on it. Maybe some of you can tell me more about them -
Most of the stampings (scabbard ball, push button, and on the inside of the spring catch) use the 'standard' eagle with straight wings over the letters WaA253, but the stamps on the hilt use a different eagle shape - more like an Imperial eagle (see pictures below).
Does anyone know of a reason for the differing stamps?

Regards - Dan







Here's the best picture I could get of the 'standard' waffenampt eagle:



And here's the 'Imperial type' eagle stampings:




P.S. - Does anyone know where there might be a spare K98 frog lying around?!!!

enfield

253 was a very common code used by the Germans here are some of them';

253 RZM Code for Uniform Accessories. Made by Camill Bergmann & Co. , Gablonz a. N. (Sudetenland)

253 RZM Code for Tinnies (Meeting badges). Made by Argentor-Werke, Wien.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Ernst Pack Und Sohne, Solingen. 1937/8/40.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Gebr Paul Weyersberg u. Co. Waffenfabrik, Solingen. 1937/8/9/40.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Alcose Stahlwarenfabrik GmbH of Solingen, previously known as Alex Coppel ac. Also known as Alcoso. 1937/8/9/40.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Waffenfabrik Holler Solingen. WW2 German Ordnance code. 1937/8/9/40.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Unknown firm using code S / 174 1935 to 1937.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Unknown firm using code S / 176 1936.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Gebr. Heller, Marienthal bei Schweina 1936.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Carl Eickhorn Solingen 1936 /1937.


253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Carl Eickhorn Solingen 1937 to 1940.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Clemen & Jung Solingen 1938 /1939.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. F. W. Höller Solingen 1938 to1940.
253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Unknown firm using code S / 242, 1936 /1937.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. E. u. F. Hörster Solingen 1937 to 1940.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. F. Herder Solingen 1937 / 1938 /1939 / 1940.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Unknown firm using code S / 172, 1937.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Ernst Pack u. Söhne 1937 / 1939 / 1940.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Berg & Co. Solingen 1937 to 1939.









253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. A. Coppel Solingen 1937 / 1939 / 1940.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. WKC Solingen 1937 / 1938 / 1940.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Josua Cort Remscheid 1937 /1939/1940

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. P. Weyersberg Solingen 1938 to 1940.

253 Heerswaffenamt inspectors number. Usually prefixed by letters WaA, Swastika or an Eagle. Mundlos AG Magdeburg 1940.

Here are some Eagles for ye.

arnhem44

I've being very impressed with some of the bayonet collections being posted up lately,I think I've been inspired a little and so I decided to expand my own small collection,these are the cheaper end of the market so nothing fancy(funds are tight at the moment,going on holiday soon,wahoo:D),theres a german k98 with bakelite grips,all matching numbers,a russian/romanian ak 47 bayonet,two ak bayonets from poland and bulgaria,the only difference been the scabbards,a japanese arisaka "last ditch" bayonet,this appears to of had a small repair and then period sharpened,this is late war and doesn't have the hooked quillion,a czech vz58 and a chilean mauser bayonet,sadly the chrome is starting to flake off quite badly

arnhem44

the last two I got are a swiss sig bayonet and a chinese type 56 bayonet with a cruxiform blade

arnhem44

Here are another two that I've just added,one is a plain german butcher bayonet with a two euro coin beside it to give anyone that has never seen one an idea what actual size these are and the other is a pattern 1888 type one mark 2 lee metford,this one is made by sanderson and marked 97,these were made from 1893 I think by this particular company,the scabbard is also marked in various places and the war department mark is imprinted into the leather but my camera is hopeless for close ups,it also has other date marks on the blade for 03 and 04

arnhem44

Ok here are another two that have arrived,one ersatz with a serial number on the handle and eagled swatstika stamped just under the release button,this one has seen some heavy use as you can see from the picture and the next is another type 30 arisaka,this one is the earlier or pre war version,the condition isn't to bad bar the scabbard,this has seen some damage and been straightened,I would guess during the war maybe,who knows,I would say one thing though,of all the bayonets I've handled these are so well balanced compared to others,anyways enjoy:)

arnhem44

This one came a couple of days ago,this is a French Gras bayonet dated 1876,the scabbarb is missing and the tip is rounded

nightscracher

Can anyone give me info on this german bayonet,any info would be great,
Thank you all.

Dr Strange

nightscracher wrote: »

Can anyone give me info on this german bayonet,any info would be great,
Thank you all.

That's a German Third Reich Police bayonet.

Morlar

nightscracher wrote: »

Can anyone give me info on this german bayonet,any info would be great,
Thank you all.

That looks pretty good - would you have any better pictures ?

nightscracher

Thank you for your replies. I need to get better pics as the web cam pics are not very good. I work in upholstery and found it in the arm of an old chair which came out of a convent in Dublin. Pics are not great but could anyone put a value on it for me? Any replies greatly appreciated.

SpitfireIV

nightscracher wrote: »

I work in upholstery and found it in the arm of an old chair which came out of a convent in Dublin.

Wow, seems the nuns were literally hiding a secret!! . Wonder how the hell it got there!

Odysseus

I'm quite interested in edged weapons as a martial artist. I have a collection of modern weapons, but how does someone go about staring out in Ireland. I would be interested in collecting some daggers and swords for my gym room in which I have a collection of MA related weapons and think the above would compelment it as I have an interest in the combative fighting techniques that were developed during WWII.

arnhem44

nightscracher wrote: »

Can anyone give me info on this german bayonet,any info would be great,
Thank you all.

I've seen two versions of this particular dagger,of course there maybe more,one had the enlayed handle with the black scabbard and the other one was a plain stag horned handle in a brown scabbard,I think its called a clam shell police dagger,how much is it worth??,isn't that the million dollar question.You don't see these very often,if it was mine I'd check out the web or have it valued,a beautiful dagger and a real find,just makes you wonder what the Nuns are getting up to nowadays:D

arnhem44

These two came while I was away on holiday,the first is a french lebel bayonet without a scabbard and the next is an 1907 bayonet by sanderson with a couple of initials carved into the handle

SpitfireIV

Someone ought to find out who that 'KM' is and get him done for damage to goverment property :pac:

Looks nice arnhem! Whats the date/dates on it?

arnhem44

CroppyBoy1798 wrote: »

Someone ought to find out who that 'KM' is and get him done for damage to goverment property :pac:

Looks nice arnhem! Whats the date/dates on it?

Hi CB1798,the dates from what I can see are a definate 12 and possibly either 13 or 18,on the other side it has a crown over 59 and and a crown over what looks like 39,whats left of the bluing is at the bottom of the blade and this is making it hard to make out some of the markings,also I didn't realise the initals were on it till it came,it was never in the listing but adds a little personal touch to it I guess if it was done during its service life

nightscracher

Thank you very much for your reply arnhem44.

arnhem44

nightscracher wrote: »

Thank you very much for your reply arnhem44.

No problem nightscracher,if you ever come across any more be sure to post them up,it was nice to see that one:)

Toomey86

Hey lads think this is kind of the wrong place to post this but thought you lads might be able to help
I’m just looking in to increasing my sword collection (not to mad into my bayonets) still excellent collection some of you guys have,
But basically was just wondering does anybody know what the restrictions are for importing swords into Ireland is.
I’ve had a look around on the net but no direct answer to size or type the best info I could get was
" OFFENSIVE WEAPONS
Offensive Weapons listed in S.I. No. 66 1991 are prohibited in the State. [Firearms and Offensive
Weapons Act, 1990 (No. 12 of 1990) and the Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act, 1990 (Offensive
Weapons) Order, 1991 (S.I. No. 66 of 1991)]. For the purposes of this prohibition the term ‘‘offensive
weapons’’ has the meaning assigned to it on page [insert page no.]. The export of any weapon
that could be considered to be an offensive weapon e.g. a sword, may be subject to clearance from
the competent authority of the recipient country"
which doesn’t really help
if you guys could help that would be great
Thanks

kowloon

Only trouble I've ever had with importing a sword was customs charging me vat on antiques, something they regularly do.

SpitfireIV

Toomey, I've gotten two antique swords off e-bay, shipped to me from the UK and had no issues at all. I got one reproduction sword from the US and the only issue was I got charged for VAT.

Morlar

CroppyBoy1798 wrote: »

Toomey, I've gotten two antique swords off e-bay, shipped to me from the UK and had no issues at all. I got one reproduction sword from the US and the only issue was I got charged for VAT.

Could I ask were they packaged the same or differently ?

I have been hit with VAT on an edged weagon from Canada too but tend to not get charged from items within Europe. Does anyone know if marking it as 'Gift' or 'Return to Owner' will make any difference for next time ?

Dr Strange

Also be careful what shipping method you use. FedEx are very quick at charging you. Got a medal from Canada once and FedEx charged me over 80 Euro almost 2 months afterwards. Rang them and they asked me where did the parcel come from. I said Canada and it was an antique used item. They then confirmed that they charge you VAT on items outside Europe and even if it is second-hand, etc. :mad:

Morlar

Preusse wrote: »

Also be careful what shipping method you use. FedEx are very quick at charging you. Got a medal from Canada once and FedEx charged me over 80 Euro almost 2 months afterwards. Rang them and they asked me where did the parcel come from. I said Canada and it was an antique used item. They then confirmed that they charge you VAT on items outside Europe and even if it is second-hand, etc. :mad:

Last time that happened to me was a 'Canada Post' tracked item - they get re-routed to portlaoise where the revenue slap on a 20+ % vat charge even though its 2nd hand and regardless of whether you paid sales tax to the people you bought it from etc. From Deutsche Post and DHL etc I have never been charged despite insurance amount appearing on the package. (fingers crossed)

Dont mean to take the thread off topic but can I ask other buyers here what is the best way in your experience to pay for these items ? I suppose its a non militaria collectible-specific question but its probably one we all deal with so it would be good to get other peoples opinions from this field.

I generally either pay by cash (if its someone I know in europe and the amount isnt too high - ie loose photos, small price medals, postcards etc) paypal or IBAN.

If someone outside europe doesnt use paypal I am reluctant to send cash, but then paying by IBAN outside Europe incurs a transmission charge and can also incur hidden recieving charges. I dont use a checking account and anyway wouldnt want to wait up to a month weeks while a cheque clears.

Dr Strange

Morlar,

outside Europe I pay by international bank draft (US, Canada, etc.) if they don't have paypal. Doesn't take them long to clear it (I think they can lodge it straight away into their account) and if the draft gets lost you can either cancel it or wait 6 months and it is automatically void.

No, I wouldn't expect any extra taxes using Deutsche Post DHL etc if the items come from within Europe.

SpitfireIV

Morlar wrote: »

Could I ask were they packaged the same or differently ?

I have been hit with VAT on an edged weagon from Canada too but tend to not get charged from items within Europe. Does anyone know if marking it as 'Gift' or 'Return to Owner' will make any difference for next time ?

The two I got from the UK were from different sellers and approx a year or so apart. They were both wrapped up in bubble wrap, and covered in cardboard then and an address stuck on it, just like a normal parcel you'd send a family member/friend etc.

The sword from the US I got hit with an extra €60!! I was sickened that day, and to make matters worse the sword (repro) was rubbish! Cant for the life of me think of the name of the carrier now, they have the brown vans and wear the brown jackets and trousers?

arnhem44

I would have to agree on the bank draught method or bank transfer,the only down fall with a bank draught is if you decide to cancel it you will be charged to do so,one way out of this is tell them its lost,western union is one to avoid because of there charges,paypal is of course the fastest but most sellers on ebay for example are quite happy to accept a cheque because they then don't get charged by paypal when they sell the item,paypal also has a buyer protection however this is also something to be wary of as it only comes into effect over a certain price,the only time I've ever been hit by customs fees was for a set of golf clubs coming from the U.S,they ended up costing me as much as they would of here,these were carried by FedEx and charged 80 euro.As for the sword issue,to start with I don't have any but anything I've purchased over the net has never had any trouble coming in including my bayonets and alot of these have also come from America,if it was me buying the sword and I wanted it badly enough I'd buy it as long as it isn't illegal and see what happens,if you get charged you get charged

Toomey86

arnhem44 wrote: »

anything I've purchased over the net has never had any trouble coming in including my bayonets and alot of these have also come from America, I wanted it badly enough I'd buy it as long as it isn't illegal

Hey thanks lads for all your help think i might see if there is a UK or European website i can get the swords from and see if the prices are close if i cant ill just order from America.
Think these might be classed as illegal though tried looking into it but no real straight forward answer for whats legal and whats not even though they'll be put in a display cabinet once i get them

Thanks Everyone for your help

Dr Strange

Toomey86 wrote: »

Hey thanks lads for all your help think i might see if there is a UK or European website i can get the swords from and see if the prices are close if i cant ill just order from America.
Think these might be classed as illegal though tried looking into it but no real straight forward answer for whats legal and whats not even though they'll be put in a display cabinet once i get them

Thanks Everyone for your help

To be on the safe side you may want to check with your local garda station first. Always helps to build a good relationship between the collector and the people deciding over your import licence etc.

SpitfireIV

I'm in Clare at the moment, have been into Limerick city today, visited an antique shop called 'Castle Antique', its a little shops directly across from King Johns Castle. Anyway, there was approx 8-10 swords there from the mid to late 19th century, prices were 'ok', perhaps a bit on the high side, but its the type of place that you could do a bit of bargaining in me thinks!

Just thought I'd let ye know. I didnt buy any, nothing that caught my eye, there was some damn nice flinters in there though, hanging from the ceiling and all, if only I had the money!

enfield

As a matter of interest what kind of prices would you call reasonable for which particular swords.
Regards.
Tom.

SpitfireIV

Hi Tom,

At present I cnt recall the exact prices for the particular swords, I do remember that there was a French briquet (minus scabbard) marked as a 'C.1800 Naval Cutlass' which was priced at €150, there was a nice c.1840/50's police hanger which, I believe was around the €250 mark. As I said, I cant remember exact prices, but I do remember thinking that the prices were about average with what you see on the net.

I'm only familiar with Georgian swords, what was there were Victorian infantry officer swords etc, a German sabre also, I couldnt indentify the particular sword types.

There was a few Martini or Enfield type socket bayonets there too, a WW1 German bayonet and a French one. As mentioned, its the type of place that you could haggle in, the type of shop where literally ever space has something stuffed into it! I found two Sam Brownes in a coalscuttle! and a matchlock musket amoung a pile of old fishing rods.

arnhem44

Its funny how the topic of the thread involved swords this past week,I happened to mention it to a friend of mine and he told me where he knew where there was some and a few days later these were given to me,three U.S civil war cavalary swords,the top of picture is the condition they came in,the two below that I decided to give a little cleaning to,the top sword is unmarked,the next one is maker marked P.S Justice with the blade makers mark on the other side P.D.L which was an imported blade,the bottom sword was made by Tiffany and CO New York(yes that famous shop),all handles are still intact with there wire wrap and shark skin,some better than others,three nice additions got for the sake of a chat,also to add to a previous post about legallity,when I approached the Gaurds about importing the de-activated weapons I told them what I had in my collection and they had no issues with the bayonets,better to be up front with those guys

SpitfireIV

Its not what you know, its who you know


Not one, or two, but three no less!! Ye lucky fecker!! They seem to be in good nick, pity though that they hadnt got scabbards.

I wish I had a mate who'd give me a sword! (I said, I wish I had a friend who'd give me a sword!! ;);).......:pac:)

arnhem44

CroppyBoy1798 wrote: »

Its not what you know, its who you know


Not one, or two, but three no less!! Ye lucky fecker!! They seem to be in good nick, pity though that they hadnt got scabbards.

I wish I had a mate who'd give me a sword! (I said, I wish I had a friend who'd give me a sword!! ;);).......:pac:)

It was a pity they didn't have there scabbards,they are a bit pitted and the first one in the photo has a few small nicks in the blade but I guess beggars can't be choosers:p,if there had been one with the same makers mark as one of the others I would of gladly parted with one