who is the Realest ?

SmokyMo

I want to know who do you think is the realest rapper right now thats on the scene and but the realest I mean who is speaking the truth and not just another product of the record company like Jim Jones,Dipset,Gunit, 50cent,slim thug, T.I , little mini weezy and jeezy and so fcuking on .....

I think they trashing all day saying this and that and then goes back to his rented mansion, with one car in the garage which sits 15". If you selling so much dope and living the life of Cosa Nostra and Scarfrace wtf you got into rap game for in the first place?

My opinion that I gotta give the title to AZ, Jigga, Nas, Eminem (the first lp was all time classic which gave an insight into his world and struggle that a lot of people can relate to), Wu-tang Clan without a doubt and Andre Nickatina.
Anyway who do you think is the Realest of them all?

spacecoyote

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Hail 2 Da Chimp

I think Space Coyote iz da realest cuz he done shot my sheezie!

bigsalabdul

SmokyMo wrote: »

I want to know who do you think is the realest rapper right now thats on the scene and but the realest I mean who is speaking the truth and not just another product of the record company like Jim Jones,Dipset,Gunit, 50cent,slim thug, T.I , little mini weezy and jeezy and so fcuking on .....

I think they trashing all day saying this and that and then goes back to his rented mansion, with one car in the garage which sits 15". If you selling so much dope and living the life of Cosa Nostra and Scarfrace wtf you got into rap game for in the first place?

My opinion that I gotta give the title to AZ, Jigga, Nas, Eminem (the first lp was all time classic which gave an insight into his world and struggle that a lot of people can relate to), Wu-tang Clan without a doubt and Andre Nickatina.
Anyway who do you think is the Realest of them all?

Eminem - marshall mathers lp, was a banging album, tearing it up wit all d mad flowitic-lyrics man.
T.I. is d king right now, heard he was supposed to come to ireland or s'tin soon. but damn, heard wat happened to him. anyone got any update on his situation?

SmokyMo

screw t.i thinking hes gangtsa king and all that, he just another crackhead who aint got any abilities plus my sisters little cat would even take him out in a scrap.....

Red-Devil

Jeezy is the most gangsta in hip-hop right now. The Game is also gangsta enough but he hasnt done **** in ages! I liked him mainly because he hated 50 Cent (and hes the least "real") and plus anyone who gets respect from Dre are worth listening to. Thats all the hype right now isnt it.? Comercial rap! most of the rappers that are about these days are all ******s, I mean in fareness most of those who talk hard dont have it so bad and are just mouths. The 90's rappers were the real ones. Im talking about Gangstarr, Big L, Rakim, Wu Tang, Ice-T, Mos Def, KRS One etc.. who made it themselves, the rappers these days are usually idiots who cant rhyme that have been pimped out by some producing machine. End of.

Kold

"most real"

Klimseven

Richard Blackwood.

A_Fitz

Most of those nominated above are the furthest thing from 'real' you would get.



Try El-P, R.A., NYoil, Little Brother, Panacea etc., etc.

Fremen

Richard Blackwood.

+1
"1-2-3-4, get with the wicked" was tight, yo!

bigsalabdul

Fremen wrote: »

+1
"1-2-3-4, get with the wicked" was tight, yo!

:D:D:D:D
funny as hell, that dude got bankrupt or something eh? he jus disapeared after that.

But T.i. got that cool flow wen he's rapping man. He's last album T.i. vs. T.I.P. was tight.

Ludacris is banging too, his collabs are the best. Comes up wierd unique lyrics, remember "one minute man" wit missy e.

Red-Devil

Ludacris is a genious! I love his style and his work. Especially the humourous stuff. "Act A Fool" is ace and "Blueberry Yum Yum" is up there with my favourite weed-smokin tunes!
T.I is also a great rapper but as far as realness goes im not too sure. Hes a skinny bastard aswell!

spacecoyote

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

I think Space Coyote iz da realest cuz he done shot my sheezie!

fo' sho' mo'fo'

all the stars

Ti may be skinny- but he is all muscle.. seen the video where he aint got no shirt on? he is all muscle.. he's just not pumped up on steroids a la 50 pence..:D

For me, it dont get much realer than DMX.. He can rap about any topic- and he is absolutely passionate about everything he says and hates all them rappers who keep shi*ing on about money & hoez... i like that...:D

Makaveli

Ironic how he features on a Jay-Z song called Money, Cash, Hoes.

DMX is a bit of a headcase, does he even rap anymore?

Kold

all the stars wrote: »

For me, it dont get much realer than DMX.. He can rap about any topic- and he is absolutely passionate about everything he says and hates all them rappers who keep shi*ing on about money & hoez... i like that...:D

"Love for my dogs" Apparently translates to making them fight horrifically. F*cking idiot. Praying on stage? Why would someone pay to see that?

evil_seed

DMX possibly was the realest. Now he's a crackhead
Realest as in most "gangsta" its gotta be the Wu. Too many stories/rumours about **** that they did. At least half gotta be true.
As far as doin what they do in their rhymes then I think it's T.I. Stupid fool is lookin at more time in jail

conormurphy

Red-Devil wrote: »

Jeezy is the most gangsta in hip-hop right now. The Game is also gangsta enough but he hasnt done **** in ages! I liked him mainly because he hated 50 Cent (and hes the least "real") and plus anyone who gets respect from Dre are worth listening to. Thats all the hype right now isnt it.? Comercial rap! most of the rappers that are about these days are all ******s, I mean in fareness most of those who talk hard dont have it so bad and are just mouths. The 90's rappers were the real ones. Im talking about Gangstarr, Big L, Rakim, Wu Tang, Ice-T, Mos Def, KRS One etc.. who made it themselves, the rappers these days are usually idiots who cant rhyme that have been pimped out by some producing machine. End of.

Ok, your obviously just like another guy that searched the internet, found the names of the classic dudes, and now think that your a huge rap fan, wrong.

1) The Game is not a real rapper, you idiot, it's so obvious, look at him like. A quick search on youtube will bring up a video where the Game speaks, and I quote; "50 said I was a stripper, he told everyone I was on Change Of Heart just over a year before The Documentary dropped, and that **** was true, but I'm gangsta, I'm gangsta and gangstas move on."

2) 50 Cent is a real rapper, just because he is rich and sings on the hooks of his songs, doesn't mean he wasn't a gangsta. Preme, being Kenneth McGriff used Ghetto Qu'ran as an excuse, there is absolutely nothing in the song which can in anyway expose him, it simply describes him as "a businessman" from the Supreme Team, a well known drugs gang in Queens. Don't judge "realness" off which rapper you prefer because it doesn't show knowledge in anyway.

3) Dr.Dre doesn't disrespect any rapper in public and hasn't done since the death of Eazy E, the only way he came near to doing this was when he threw a little jab at JD on Say What You Say, but that was the end of that, he stopped workin with Snoop and moved on. Dre publicly told of his respect for Fat Joe, and although Fat Joe was one of the biggest gangsters in New York in the late 80's/early 90's, he doesn't have skills as a rapper as you will recognise from his constant recycling of his rhymes.

4) Look at the dudes you mentioned there, Ice-T, Mos Def, Krs-One, they ain't gangsta, they rappers but definitely not gangsta. Except maybe for Ghostface Killah. I mean Wu Tang created the basis for commercial rap with all their ventures and the Gravel Pit record.

5) Actual real rappers from the 1990's were Big Punisher, Notorious BIG, Public Enemy, Jadakiss, Big L (of course, but I mean, only one of his records hit the street, one of the best freestylers to ever live), Eric B and Rakim of course too, 40 Cal of Dipset is one of the real rappers still in the street, J-Hood, Uncle Murda...

6) Some of the better rappers such as Nas and the Game are examples of "fakes". Nas could've stopped the shooting of his brother but put himself first, that ain't real but he thinks he can spit about Hip Hop Is Dead, with people like him makin up this gangsta crap well then it will die. He has a good flow, good rhyme scheme, Ether was a classic as was the Illmatic record but he is exposed I guess.

Kold

Wait, so real=gangsta? (God, typing in ebonics is painful)

Orizio

Wait, why would anyone care? Seriously though?

Kold

I'm just trying to understand the young listeners to this hippityhop business.

spacecoyote

yes, tis a little confusing....

looking at it as an equation we get

Real=Gangsta

Krs=Real

=> KRS=Gangsta

hmmmm, i'm seeing a little problem with this one

all the stars

Kold wrote: »

"Love for my dogs" Apparently translates to making them fight horrifically. F*cking idiot. Praying on stage? Why would someone pay to see that?

clearly you aren't firmiliar with American churches- they might as well be at a concert! They call the Altar stage, A sermon is called a performance.. and hundreds of thousands have paid to see that...

all the stars

Once again, i have to say it, Dmx is it for me, the fact that he Featured on someone elses track ages ago about money cash hoez is irrelevant... He is reality.. and what he does off stage - i dont actually care (about that dog fighting comment made earlier by someone) Once he do his thing on stage, and stay releasing excellent tunes - im happy..

Kold

all the stars wrote: »

He is reality..

Hm, another confusing part for the equation..

DMX=reality
KRS=gangsta=real
DMX=individual unit of reality
KRS
Dogfighting=irrelevant to reality even though it remains in it's confines
Praying=entertainment (only in America though)
entertainment=reality?

This is hard

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

what about abdominal?
he's pretty real, doesn't try to be a hard bastard at all a nd he's far more talented than 50 ****e.

Kold

Tranny wrote: »

what about abdominal?
he's pretty real, doesn't try to be a hard bastard at all a nd he's far more talented than 50 ****e.

They say he has the strength of ten men... Who each possess the strength of ten men. Don't know how true it is though.

all the stars

Kold wrote: »

Hm, another confusing part for the equation..

DMX=reality
KRS=gangsta=real
DMX=individual unit of reality
KRS
Dogfighting=irrelevant to reality even though it remains in it's confines
Praying=entertainment (only in America though)
entertainment=reality?

This is hard

ok... im not trying to put anything into a box... or do equations/ maths... i only care about his music. Not bothered about anything he does in his person life. .i like their music.. dont care if they make animal sacrifices.. not my business..

Makaveli

Kold wrote: »

Hm, another confusing part for the equation..

DMX=reality
KRS=gangsta=real
DMX=individual unit of reality
KRS
Dogfighting=irrelevant to reality even though it remains in it's confines
Praying=entertainment (only in America though)
entertainment=reality?

This is hard

Wait, wait, wait.

Rapper == someone who raps
BUT Real Rapper == 50 Cent
Real == Gangsta => Real Rapper == Gangsta Rapper
So, anyone not Gangsta is not a real rapper.
KRS == Real but != Gangsta => KRS != real rapper, so KRS == fake rapper like Nas and The Game
Not Real == Fake, => Everyone != Gangsta == Fake

So, if you are a rapper but not a gangsta rapper, and at that not a real gangsta rapper you are in fact fake. But being a real gangsta rapper makes you a gangsta gangsta rapper because we already determined Real == Gangsta.

So, 50 Cent is Real².

DMX == Real
But he has variables such as Dogfighting=irrelevant to reality even though it remains in it's confines
Praying=entertainment (only in America though)

entertainment != reality because da streetz iz real, aint no playin' fo' sho', it aint no game foo'.
But DMX's variable are irrelevant to him being Real² so he can pray for entertainment while maintaining his Gangsta.

all the stars further complicates matters by saying ;

For me, it dont get much realer than DMX.. He can rap about any topic- and he is absolutely passionate about everything he says

But follows up saying;

Not bothered about anything he does in his person life.

This seems to go against the entire set of rules of Real² layed out in conormurphy's post, because he defines real as being based on your personal life.

So, either DMX transcends all boundaries, labels and categories to be Real² regardless of all existing parameters defined by conormurphy or Real² != Real² therefore anarchy ensues. Laffy Taffy is considered so Gangsta it's Realⁿ, KRS-One is dismissed as a Sprite rep and DMX is God of Hip-Hop with 50 Cent seated at his right hand and T.I. at his left.

evil_seed

This thread is entertainment.:D

all the stars

ok...

So, , guess what i mean to be really clear - leave nothing to guesswork- i dont care what dmx/ whoever does in his personal life in so far as reading about him (a la britney) or watching him being stalked by media (also a la britney)
I care about his music only.. which yes reflects his personal life - but i only know about his personal life via his music and no other medium! So, - i mean, thats clear yeah? im not into celebrity culture - not that way really... :rolleyes:

Makaveli

Yeah we get that. It's just that basically contradicts what this thread is all about (don't worry though, it's an incredibly silly thread). The point the op is trying to make is that those that rap about stuff they do in their life should actually be doing it otherwise they're just posturing and not particularly real. If you base realness purely on the lyrics without knowing anything about what they do (I'm talking gangster rap here) then you can't be sure if what they are rapping about is fantasy/for entertainment purposes or reality for them.

It's the reason a lot of people dislike mainstream rap music. Too much posturing and talking crap about who they've killed, how much drugs they take/sell and how much money they have. Nobody gives a crap. It's all very stale and unimaginative. That's why this thread is a joke and so few people posting in it are taking it seriously.

WeAreBohs

I heard Conor Murphy = REAL= CERTIFIED G:D

Kold

Makaveli, unless you built up demz maff skillz by slingin keys I'm tempted to disregard everything there because you clearly went to school and therefore are imaginary.

robby^5

I heard Dr. Dre is the most real gangsta, but then people forgot about dre.

conormurphy

I heard that he was still dre though but maybe I heard wrong

Makaveli

Nah, he's been there done that.

spacecoyote

so what we are really saying is that mainstream rap is some function of i

ah yes, and with fiddy being Real^2 (don't know how to do all that fancy stuff that the mods do), i can now understand all the negativity.

Four-Too

How can you guys forget about Tupac Shakur....it's laughable, that ppl list the real rappers from the 90's and leave him out. He touched the hearts of millions around the World, both black and white. Could that ever be said of rappers like 50 cent?

conormurphy

How can people forget that Tupac Shakur was gay until he was 18?

Kold

conormurphy wrote: »

How can people forget that Tupac Shakur was gay until he was 18?

How can this thread still be alive?

SmokyMo

conormurphy wrote: »

How can people forget that Tupac Shakur was gay until he was 18?

But I bet he would knock you de **** out.

Common dont post bull**** like that

Four-Too

Tupac Shakur, or, as he is also Known, Machaveli the don is coming back to kill the illuminati, hence killuminati. 7 day theory

An Fear Aniar

I believe Tone Loc is a very popular beat combo.



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lordgoat

Immortal technique - the message and the money.

Makaveli

Four-Too wrote: »

Tupac Shakur, or, as he is also Known, Machaveli the don is coming back to kill the illuminati, hence killuminati. 7 day theory

No, he's dead. Did you not get the memo?

robby^5

If the question was, who stayed most true to their own roots over the course of their career, I'd have to say Eazy-E stands out among the rest, he left us too soon

I look forward to the rumoured NWA reunion, which will happen... some day, hope they lay down a track remembering the E.

Klimseven

I heard they're mad for the E nowadays.

DrumSteve

big L

kmick

What about those waylan brothers - they are keepin it real. Rap is dead like dodos are. Long dead. 10 years dead in my estimation.

all the stars

can i get a cypress hill in the area! woo! tell ya - i went to the eminem gig few years ago ( to see cypress hill) and they absolutely were better than em... they kik ass - well, one of the many.. outlandish are excellent too -