Personalised registration plates

roxychix

hi
Just wondering if personalised registration plates in ireland are legal because i have seen a few cars with them,

colm_mcm

what do you mean by personalised?

different font? different colour? you can reserve certain numbers if you like, but that's about as far as it goes. there are regulations as to the font, size, and spacing of letters. and the shape/size of plates.

Wishbone Ash

roxychix wrote: »

hi
Just wondering if personalised registration plates in ireland are legal because i have seen a few cars with them,

Were they Irish registrations?

Stevie Dakota

I've always wondered about reserved numbers 08 D 911, etc (yawn). Anyone know what you have to pay for the privilege, AudiChris?

roxychix

well bought new 05 audi a4 and its vlack looking to know if you get black plates with silver writing. You do have to show the year of car and county right you cant change that can u?
any idea wer to get them done

cheers

Mr. Presentable

You can put whatever you want on the plates, but by law they must be black lettering on white. The law also specifies what font type and size and spacing you can use. You must also display county and country as per regulations. So, you can have your silver on black, but it won't pass an NTC and it won't be legal.

Gran Hermano

Personalised name plates... Hmm, take a look at this thread.
You could always just change your name to 05 D 12345.
As for the colour, font and size of the actual reg plate anything
that deviates from the norm is both illegal and will cause you to
fail the NCT.

roxychix

cheers guys for the response fastest ever will look at the thread

MarkN

Stevie Dakota wrote: »

I've always wondered about reserved numbers 08 D 911, etc (yawn). Anyone know what you have to pay for the privilege, AudiChris?

315 quid.


This person must get pulled A LOT

-Chris-

Stevie Dakota wrote: »

I've always wondered about reserved numbers 08 D 911, etc (yawn). Anyone know what you have to pay for the privilege, AudiChris?

If you're looking for a reg like 08D8080 or 08D535, then this'll do it!
If you're looking for coloured plates, then probably try a motor factors (never done them before).

http://www.revenue.ie/forms/vrt15a.pdf

Fill it in, send it in with a cheque for €315, cross your fingers!

The Basic Rules:
- The car has to be registered to the name and address you nominate, but you don't need to nominate a car. This means you can reserve your cool registration before you even know what you're planning to buy!
- You're not guaranteed to get the number, you'll get a letter from them that says if you were successful or not
- You can't put a car on the road out of sequence (i.e. you can't drive 08D60000 on public roads until somebody's registered 08D59999)
- You can't apply for a 09 reg until Nov '08. When you put your application in they'll just put it in the pile and notify you before Jan '09. If more than one person applies for a reg, it's allocated on a lottery system.
- You can apply for an 08 reg now, you'll know pretty much straight away if the reg is available or not
- If you're not successful getting a reg, they return your application fee and you get to try again!

-Chris-

Damn, beaten to it!

Do you people not have anything better to do on a Saturday night??

-Chris-

Also see:

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/travel-and-recreation/vehicle-standards/vehicle_registration_numbers/?searchterm=licence%20plates
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License_plates_of_Ireland

Regulations as to the colour, font, size and spacing of letters are pretty specific...

Stevie Dakota

Cheers Chris! Another mystery of the universe solved...

paddydriver

Just one other thing - I think they cash your cheque whether you get the number or not, and the refund you if you miss out - good oul revenue:rolleyes:

I applied for one in Nov 05 (for 06) and got letter to say they had my app, cheque was cashed immediately, and then I got my number - a week or two later.

Was thinking of doing same last Nov for a 08 but was not really sure when I was planning on getting the car and - natural ones I wanted was 08 xx 8080 or 08 xx 888 (Lucky 8's;-)) as I have 06 xx 8080 but did not bother. If I order the car for 1st July then I may go a number later in the range. The 8080 is a techie thing by the way - no slagging or asking what county xx is either:)

mikemac

I haven't read the other thread but there is another relevant point.
Afaik I know if you are in Dublin, Waterford, Cork, Limerick or Kilkenny then you cannot have No. 1 as that is reserved for the Lord Mayor of each city.

Apologies if I've missed a city.

jrar

MarkN wrote: »

315 quid.


This person must get pulled A LOT

Evidently not ! You're mistaking Ireland for a country where law enforcement actually occurs and where custodians of the law actually know what is legal and what is not !

-Chris-

paddydriver wrote: »

Just one other thing - I think they cash your cheque whether you get the number or not, and the refund you if you miss out - good oul revenue:rolleyes:

Not to my knowledge - any time I've had a registration refused, the original cheque has accompanied the letter of refusal.

Seth Brundle

paddydriver wrote: »

Just one other thing - I think they cash your cheque whether you get the number or not, and the refund you if you miss out - good oul revenue:rolleyes:

What would you prefer? Should the cheque be sitting on desks across the department?
What would happen if they decided person A should get the reg number, the revenue tell all the others and return the uncashed cheques, and then it turns out that person A's cheque bounced?

Wishbone Ash

paddydriver wrote: »

I applied for one in Nov 05 (for 06) and got letter to say they had my app, cheque was cashed immediately

Why would Revenue cash a cheque? Surely they would lodge it to their account!

micmclo wrote: »

Afaik I know if you are in Dublin, Waterford, Cork, Limerick or Kilkenny then you cannot have No. 1 as that is reserved for the Lord Mayor of each city.

Apologies if I've missed a city.

Not in Kilkenny - they seem to be reserved for JJ Kavanagh!

Our man in Havana

You need to be fast to beat JJ Kavanagh.

Wishbone Ash

Bond-007 wrote: »

You need to be fast to beat JJ Kavanagh.

I don't understand how they manage it. They seems to get no. 1 in 3 or 4 counties (and 11, 111, 111 in those counties also).

Does no-one else in Kilkenny, Waterford, Tipperary, Laois etc. apply for no. 1.?
How does JJ's name always come out of the hat?

AFAIK one may only make one application for each number.

Our man in Havana

I reckon they have help on the inside.

I will apply for a few 09 's for the laugh and see if I can get any.

Guy:Incognito

Bond-007 wrote: »

You need to be fast to beat JJ Kavanagh.

I thought it was a lottery? Or supposed to be at least. So if your in before the deadline you should have as much of a chance as anyone.

All points to an insider alright.

Our man in Havana

Another point, how does JJ Kavanagh manage to get regs for TN, LS etc as he is located in Urlingford which is in deepest Kilkenny?

Nightwish

Urlingford isnt "deepest Kilkenny" - its right on the Tipp North border and very close to Laois.

mikemac

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Not in Kilkenny - they seem to be reserved for JJ Kavanagh!

Ah but Kilkenny isn't a real city anyway

You are right though, I've seen a few 1 TN regs around on JJ Kavanagh buses. They are a Kilkenny company but they do a lot of business in Tipp.
It's amazing how they do it.

jeremyisagod

i dont know if anyone has pointed this out before....but silver on black regs are only allowed for the Defence Forces as far as i know...

Nelly23

Worst persionalised plate I seen was on a Ford Puma up the north...it read...
T04B07...(TOYBOY)!! I still chickle thinking about it:D!

rebel.ranter

Nelly23 wrote: »

Worst persionalised plate I seen was on a Ford Puma up the north...it read...
T04B07...(TOYBOY)!! I still chickle thinking about it:D!

Surely you mean T0Y 80 Y?

Is it a UK one because T04B07 doesn't look UK?

Jimmy White had CUE 80 Y (cue boy) & Paul Daniels MAG 1 C. MAG 1 C is pretty cool.

stifz

Are the old style black & silver embossed vintage plates not legal on vintage vehicle only??

pburns

Most forms of personalised plate are naff and make the driver look like an image-obsessed gob***** with some serious insecurity issues. Well, maybe that's a pop-psychology simplification but they do look a bit sad IMHO!

What happens if you get a standard plate you don't like though? I'd be a bit creeped if I turned up to collect my shiny new motor to find out I'd been allocated 08-*-666 for example:eek:...

Our man in Havana

666 is not issued in the normal course of business. You have to request it via the lottery.

L1011

TOY 80Y is issued to a Porsche Boxter, not a Ford Puma... could easily be the same meaning though

DJ Hafez

Can you put in for a few different ones with preference on them or can you just put in to regiter 3 or 4, pay the reg fee and choose one of the ones you get in the end while getting a refund for the others?

northernstar

Are black number plates legal on cars of certain ages?

Our man in Havana

They are legal on vintage cars, i.e. cars over 30 years old.

rebel.ranter

Bond-007 wrote: »

They are legal on vintage cars, i.e. cars over 30 years old.

They are also legal on pre - 1986 cars too.

Our man in Havana

rebel.ranter wrote: »

They are also legal on pre - 1986 cars too.

I thought that they had to black on red on the rear and black on white to the front?

blastman

No, they were all standardised to grey on black. The black on red plates aren't used any more unless a car from that era is still running, AFAIK.

jeremyisagod

Bond-007 wrote: »

666 is not issued in the normal course of business. You have to request it via the lottery.

trust me, you CAN get 666 on ur reg plate without ordering it!!! my boyfriends car has those freaky digits. and would you believe it breaks down all the time...he only got it back from a 'service' and it broke down 2 days later.

rebel.ranter

jeremyisagod wrote: »

trust me, you CAN get 666 on ur reg plate without ordering it!!! my boyfriends car has those freaky digits. and would you believe it breaks down all the time...he only got it back from a 'service' and it broke down 2 days later.

Did he buy that car new? If you check a site like www.cartell.ie you will see that virtually no 666 plates are issued in any county any year. I've only ever seen one with a "666" reg a wine Golf 96-LH-666, I think (edit: correction 01-lh-666):

Registration 01LH666
Make VOLKSWAGEN
Model GOLF
Description TDI COMF 1.9
Engine Capacity(cc) 1896
Fuel Type DIESEL
(from cartell.ie)

They also don't issue 13 unless requested.

Our man in Havana

They stopped because a nun got a 666 plate and the story made the papers.

jeremyisagod

rebel.ranter wrote: »

Did he buy that car new? If you check a site like www.cartell.ie you will see that virtually no 666 plates are issued in any county any year. I've only ever seen one with a "666" reg a wine Golf 96-LH-666, I think.

They also don't issue 13 unless requested.

no he didnt buy it new, but i know the previous owner and i highly doubted that that person would be into the 666 thing....oh its **-**-**666 by the way....i really should have mentioned that before! sorry!!

-Chris-

I think 99D666 was on a Merc ML iirc. Looked pretty cool to me!

MarkN

There was definitely a red Fiat Brava with XX D 666 as the reg.

sesswhat

colm_mcm wrote: »

there are regulations as to the font..

nipplenuts wrote: »

You The law also specifies what font type and size and spacing you can use.

Gran Hermano wrote: »

As for the colour, font and size of the actual reg plate anything
that deviates from the norm is both illegal and will cause you to
fail the NCT.

AudiChris wrote: »

Regulations as to the colour, font, size and spacing of letters are pretty specific...

It keeps coming up but people still think the font is laid down in law. Search this page for the word font.

L1011

sesswhat wrote: »

It keeps coming up but people still think the font is laid down in law. Search this page for the word font.

The size restrictions effectively control the font. Its not like Germany where there is ein font for ein people (sorry...) but its fairly close.

Cookie_Monster

sesswhat wrote: »

It keeps coming up but people still think the font is laid down in law. Search this page for the word font.

13. The placename shall appear in black letters above the identification mark and each letter of the placename shall have a height of not less than 12 millimetres and a stroke width of not less than 3 millimetres. The total width of the space taken by each letter (other than the letter I) shall not be less than 9 millimetres. Where an accented vowel occurs in the placename the length accent character shall have a height of 2 millimetres above the letter. The distances between the nearest parts of adjoining letters shall be uniform. Where the placename comprises more than one word the distances between the nearest letters of adjoining words shall be uniform and not less than three times the distance between adjoining letters.

14. The identification mark shall appear in black characters and each letter or figure shall have a height of 70 millimetres and a stroke width of 10 millimetres. The total width of the space taken by each letter or figure (other than the letter “I” or the number “I”) shall be not less than 36 millimetres and not more than 50 millimetres. The distances between adjoining letters and adjoining figures shall be uniform and shall be not less than 8 millimetres.

^^Font^^

It defines the height, width, stroke and gaps between the letters. These are all componants of Font.

sesswhat

MYOB wrote: »

The size restrictions effectively control the font.

I can't see how. There are any number of fonts that could be adapted to conform to these rules. I imagine it's mostly down to the fact that most number plate making equipment is the same.

-Chris-

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

13. The placename shall appear in black letters above the identification mark and each letter of the placename shall have a height of not less than 12 millimetres and a stroke width of not less than 3 millimetres. The total width of the space taken by each letter (other than the letter I) shall not be less than 9 millimetres. Where an accented vowel occurs in the placename the length accent character shall have a height of 2 millimetres above the letter. The distances between the nearest parts of adjoining letters shall be uniform. Where the placename comprises more than one word the distances between the nearest letters of adjoining words shall be uniform and not less than three times the distance between adjoining letters.

14. The identification mark shall appear in black characters and each letter or figure shall have a height of 70 millimetres and a stroke width of 10 millimetres. The total width of the space taken by each letter or figure (other than the letter “I” or the number “I”) shall be not less than 36 millimetres and not more than 50 millimetres. The distances between adjoining letters and adjoining figures shall be uniform and shall be not less than 8 millimetres.

^^Font^^

It defines the height, width, stroke and gaps between the letters. These are all componants of Font.

And also, don't forget:

2. The identification mark of a vehicle shall be displayed on a rectangular plate which shall correspond with either Diagram No. 1 or Diagram No. 2 shown below.

...which refers to two pictures that illustrate the proscribed style of registration plates - clearly showing a non-italicised, sans-serif style of typeface.
Combined with the qualities defined by Cookie Monster, I reckon we have a font!

L1011

sesswhat wrote: »

I can't see how. There are any number of fonts that could be adapted to conform to these rules. I imagine it's mostly down to the fact that most number plate making equipment is the same.

"adapting" a font means its not a font anymore. Oddly enough, when you "adapt" them, they all look nearly identical...