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10 year-old gives birth in US

  • 08-02-2008 6:19pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭


    Michael Chaffer (boyfriend of the child's mother) is facing criminal charges for impregnating and sexually molesting a girl under the age of 13 — a crime punishable by life in prison. []An investigation wasn’t launched until the 10-year-old gave birth.

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    A tragic story tbh. Seemingly her mother never noticed she was pregnant. ><


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Wow, horrific


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Now, social workers are trying to figure out how to unravel the mess involving one of the youngest children ever to give birth in Greater Cincinnati.

    What the hell? There's been younger? This is so messed up.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    poor girl


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Yep all the fun of a modren diet meaning girls start bleeding from the crotch as young as 9.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 rosarosa


    :(:(:(:(

    Horror!!

    what's so terrible about this is that I doubt the child even knew what was happening to her. Can you imagine what must have been going through her mind during labour?

    I hope that sick guy is locked away for a LONG time (preferably in a max. security prison full of sexually starved, body-building murderers, so he can get a taste of his own medicine---see what it's like to be on the receiving end!!!)

    I don't know what's wrong with some parents that they'll just ignore what's going on in their homes when their kids are in such a bad situation. that mother needs to go to jail!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭padi89


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Yep all the fun of a modren diet meaning girls start bleeding from the crotch as young as 9.
    ??:confused:??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Shocking story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 galwayallday


    Sure thats nothing, you can be a grandmother at that age considering that a 5 year old has given birth before.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,440 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    Sheesh!

    Very sad. Poor child.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    What sort of a Mother is ignorant of her 10 year old being pregnant?


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  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Sure thats nothing, you can be a grandmother at that age considering that a 5 year old has given birth before.

    source? Otherwise, stop trollong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 galwayallday


    5starpool wrote: »
    source? Otherwise, stop trollong.
    What? Go look for a source yourself and don't call me a troll you goblin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    What? Go look for a source yourself and don't call me a troll you goblin.

    Yeah i heard of a 5 year old peruvian girl who gave birth in the early part of the 20th century. They reckon she may have had some kind of tumour on her pituitory gland that led to puberty,and paternity was never established.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    FFS :eek: What's the world coming to?

    I'd cut his knob off. Fcuking low life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 271 ✭✭Lynibeth


    Yeah apparently that's true about the 5 year old

    Source: http://scienceroll.com/2006/12/09/the-youngest-mother-ever/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭carveone


    Yeah i heard of a 5 year old peruvian girl who gave birth in the early part of the 20th century. They reckon she may have had some kind of tumour on her pituitory gland that led to puberty,and paternity was never established.

    That's the one. Pituitary disorder combined with incest. Nice. See: www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp. Wikipedia has details about youngest birth mothers.

    Took no effort to find this btw, so wiki first, argue later ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    Man, thats horrible. Wrong on so many levels. The mother is practically a baby herself.



    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Yep all the fun of a modren diet meaning girls start bleeding from the crotch as young as 9.


    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    What? Go look for a source yourself and don't call me a troll you goblin.

    Hahahaa :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Sure thats nothing, you can be a grandmother at that age considering that a 5 year old has given birth before.
    That case is an exception.
    What? Go look for a source yourself and don't call me a troll you goblin.
    Attack the post, not the poster, irrespective of how mild the abuse is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    I hope that guy suffers in prison every day for the rest of his life.

    Complete sick ****.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    5starpool wrote: »
    source? Otherwise, stop trollong.
    5starpool, if you suspect a poster of trolling, please use the report function.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    Now I'm going to go out on a limb here and risk more troll accusations but....
    Physiologically speaking this is standard enough practice. A male has sex with a sexually mature female and she gives birth. Some of you are going on like its the worst case of torture murder. It might be a heinous crime to our eyes but its still a fairly natural thing.

    Serious?
    We're talking about a 10 year old here.
    Are you saying its 'physiologically' acceptable to have sex with and impregnate a 10 year old?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Jimbo, I deleted that trolltastic post, but no need. He's banned. Let the discussion continue!


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Dudess wrote: »
    5starpool, if you suspect a poster of trolling, please use the report function.

    Yes mistress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭the dee


    That's messed up. The poor kids, both of them. I hope they get sent to loving foster homes now and learn that the world can be a lovely place and that they did nothing wrong.

    They are taking the child off the mother because she is so young. Does anyone thing they should be allowed stay together? Not as mother and daughter obviously, but together in a foster home?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    5starpool wrote: »
    Yes mistress.
    Likewise, if you have an issue with anything I've posted as a moderator, take it to Helpdesk/Feedback.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    That's fcuking terrible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    Dudess wrote: »
    Likewise, if you have an issue with anything I've posted as a moderator, take it to Helpdesk/Feedback.

    Ouch, clash of the titans



    Back OT,
    Do ye think the mother feels any maternity bond with the baby?
    Is it not cruel to seperate them?
    Wouldn't they both be better off being together?


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Castration really is the only form of justice in cases like these. Sick ****er.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Nick_oliveri


    Michael Chaffer, 40, is accused of impregnating his girlfriend’s 10-year-old daughter, according to Hamilton County prosecutors.

    Nasty. Wow this 10 year old is really going to have a good future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    padi89 wrote: »
    ??:confused:??

    What Thaedydal meant is that due to changes in our diet girls start menstruating at an earlier age. The average age is usually 12 but due to diet and health it can be as early as 8.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    ztoical wrote: »
    What Thaedydal meant is that due to changes in our diet girls start menstruating at an earlier age. The average age is usually 12 but due to diet and health it can be as early as 8.

    She didn't say it like that though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Messed up.

    I wonder does the father seem like a "normal" guy or is he obviously ****ed. I often wonder what freaky stuff is done by the people I know...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    padi89 wrote: »
    ??:confused:??
    jimbo78 wrote: »
    She didn't say it like that though...

    no she didn't [tbh prob didn't think she needed to explain it so clearly] so we got the ??:confused:?? followed by an explanation...so everyone is happy now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Lirange


    ztoical wrote: »
    What Thaedydal meant is that due to changes in our diet girls start menstruating at an earlier age. The average age is usually 12 but due to diet and health it can be as early as 8.
    Or she's talking about GM foods.

    It was the mutant cows!! :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Very few things shock me anymore, but this one sure did.
    So sad, so terrible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I think this is one thread where we're all in agreement. Probably the only such After Hours thread ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    dublindude wrote: »
    Messed up.

    I wonder does the father seem like a "normal" guy or is he obviously ****ed. I often wonder what freaky stuff is done by the people I know...

    You never know do you. Some of the most evil people on the planet are the nicest people you'll ever meet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Yep all the fun of a modren diet meaning girls start bleeding from the crotch as young as 9.

    Classy


    -Funk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭4Xcut


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Yep all the fun of a modren diet meaning girls start bleeding from the crotch as young as 9.


    I had heard this as well. You say modern diet, but is this a cse of children getting much more neutrients than years ago or is cos of all hormones and whatnot added to the food now days?

    On Topic:This is a completely inexcusable crime(what the father did) and should be punished in the most severe means possible, not some pussy death scentance.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    In fairness, he didn't kill anyone, so the punishment should be less than that for murder.

    Is he a criminal or is he mentally ill?

    Like, what kind of sick **** want's to have sex with a 9 year old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭4Xcut


    dublindude wrote: »
    Is he a criminal or is he mentally ill?

    Well, if he's a criminal he should be locked up. If he's mentally ill to the point that he would do that then he should be locked up. Either way he should be locked up.


    The bit about him not killing someone. He didn;t take a life. He quite possible destroyed one. There's a big difference. Yes, there wasn't the saddnes of a death for others(although i dount their jumping for joy) but there is the fact that this is possible one of the most traumatic ordeals for a child to go through. To be violated in such a mannor by someone is utterly unforgiveable but to have it done by a parent, someone who is supposed to bear an unconditional love to their child, someone who has the complete and implicit trust of a child is beyond what i can comprehed. This man has taken an innocence from this child, an innocence that is left to children for a shorter and shorter time now days, that she can never get back. Murder is one thing, unforgiveable, disgraceful, but at least can have a motive or the reason of doing it in hot blood, bt this is s pre-meditated violation of someone on a deep level. An example of this man should be made stating that the human race will not tolerate this sort of behavour and that it will be met with the most serious of consequences, of which death is only among them but not the top of the list. Every possible shred of joy, colour, relief and respite should be taken from this man untill his spirit is completely broken. He should be punished untill he does not even have the will to take his own life to end his suffering.

    Now i know this may seem severe to many but there are certain things that i believe merrit this sort of punishment.


    Disclaimer: Just so i don't get berated, i'm not saing that mentally ill people should be locked up. There are many mental illnesses that deserve much care and attention and many people struggle through mch adversity with them. I'm refering to the mentally unstable in a dangerous to others mannor type of mentally ill people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I think it's terrible that the law system in the Us doesn't allow for "honest mistake". When she first met the guy she swore she was 12!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    The guy's a paedophile who abused a child. I'd imagine just because he got her pregnant doesn't mean he will get a harsher sentence. Though i'm only guessing there.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Yep all the fun of a modren diet meaning girls start bleeding from the crotch as young as 9.
    Thought temperature has a role too. Kids not out in the cold and houses better insulated and travel in heated cars/buses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Sexual concent is as low as 12 in some countries.


    :eek:


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    snyper wrote: »
    Sexual concent is as low as 12 in some countries.
    Marriageable age

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age

    Arizona: no statutory minimum, those under 18 must have parental consent, those under 16 must receive approval of a superior court judge and parental consent.
    California: no statutory minimum, those under 18 must receive approval of a superior court judge and parental consent.
    New Hampshire: 18 generally; 14 for males and 13 for females, in cases of "special cause" with parental consent and court permission.

    Is this true ? - convince the high court and you can get married anytime ?
    Republic of Ireland: 18, 16 with parental consent, below 16 with both parental and High Court consent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Growth hormones in beef.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Black girls develop earlier on average than their white counterparts, so said Oprah.
    Also overweight kids.


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