Indoor Airsoft

dathi1

I'm investigating setting up an indoor airsoft arena in the south Dublin Area. I have access to an empty fully operational new warehouse with full car parking and security. Anyone who wants to submit ideas for ground layouts etc more than welcome.

Thanks, Daithi.

Genghiz Cohen

Well what are we looking at, what are the dementions?

If you give us a floor plan with doors and the like marked in on it, we can draw what we would like on it.

Sounds really cool though.

ambro25

Sounds good indeed for us Sourtherners and CQB-starved since "HRTA 2"

Sandyford, by any chance?

Groundfloor dimensions would help, as noted by Genghiz - obviously excluding any portion you'd already have earmarked as the reception/changing/AEG-unpacking/safe-zone/staging area.

Two-/or Split-levels would be fab, that's if (i) you can implement it and (ii) your insurer accomodates it.

Generally, I'd say you'll want a portion with interconnecting 'rooms' (each with at least two exits) and an 'open' portion in the middle/down the sides to permit engagement at range. Ideally, ensure any engagement can take place between 5 to 20 meters, but not less (else it's likely to become be known as the "bang kill house" )

Genghiz Cohen

ambro25 wrote: »

Two-/or Split-levels would be fab, that's if (i) you can implement it and (ii) your insurer accomodates it.

Lots of murder holes to pour a bag of bbs down.

ED E

Super. Where abouts in south Dublin?

Also, if you need help in the installation of cover ect I'm open to helping if it means I wont spend an hour getting to a skirmish.

lethal.

zero19

That's cool the more sites the better, and a full time CQB site would be well appreciated i'm sure

kdouglas

would definitely love to see an indoor cqb site in a nice big warehouse, southside is even better

if you need any help, just ask, there are plenty of us here who are more than willing to help get a new site off the ground

Masada

like the sound of this.,

ScumLord

Well seeing as it's a warehouse why not just use pretend stock and have a warehouse setup. The kind of shelving that's in warehouses should be available 2nd hand dirt cheap (and probably damaged but it won't need to hold any weight) after that a load of empty boxes, oil barrels and pallets would make the whole scene look authentic. I'd assume raiding warehouses would be a fairly common occurrence for police forces around the world.

Dave!

Sounds good, good luck with it! Where is it located? I might actually start skirmishing again if it's nearby!

The Bored One

Planning on adjustable layout or a fixed one? Either way this would be kick ass.

Tspoon

2 levels would be really cool
Yes I definitely think its a good idea

ScumLord

Tspoon wrote: »

2 levels would be really cool
Yes I definitely think its a good idea

Two levels would bring allot of problems for the site owner though. the risk of someone falling down the stairs would be high. Especially with your vision restricted.

Lemming

ScumLord wrote: »

Two levels would bring allot of problems for the site owner though. the risk of someone falling down the stairs would be high. Especially with your vision restricted.

QFT.

Does anyone remembers the Quazar arena in Tallaght which used to be themed on 2029AD from the Terminator (and was called "Terminator Quazar")? It was multi-level but they removed the ramps a few years later due to risk of people slipping, etc.

A shame because it was a fantastic arena at the time.

AirsoftEire.com

ScumLord wrote: »

Well seeing as it's a warehouse why not just use pretend stock and have a warehouse setup. The kind of shelving that's in warehouses should be available 2nd hand dirt cheap (and probably damaged but it won't need to hold any weight) after that a load of empty boxes, oil barrels and pallets would make the whole scene look authentic. I'd assume raiding warehouses would be a fairly common occurrence for police forces around the world.

Excellent idea.
Please don't just fill it with pallets and wooden walls, its about time Ireland got a decent, realistic CQB arena. This looks promising.

Steve

Masada

to be honest i think its a shame people would be mentioning things like "slipping on the stairs" and all that cr*p., its a war game for jasus sake.,lol, if we go there to play then we should at least accept that we might trip over just as we might when we walk down o connell street or when your going to bed at night.,
i know if i fall i wont to cryin like a baby, (well not while you lot are looking) and bitching about it, just brush yourself off and get back in the game.,

Abu_Pablo

the site must be more tactical without risking the operatives. try to watch this video, i hope will give you bit of idea. just cant wait to that cqb site to be open.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsXNDel0Ygw

Lemming

vtec wrote: »

to be honest i think its a shame people would be mentioning things like "slipping on the stairs" and all that cr*p., its a war game for jasus sake.,lol, if we go there to play then we should at least accept that we might trip over just as we might when we walk down o connell street or when your going to bed at night.,
i know if i fall i wont to cryin like a baby, (well not while you lot are looking) and bitching about it, just brush yourself off and get back in the game.,

Unfortunately you also have to take into consideration what the insurance suits say they will or will not cover. It they decide "sorry not with that in there", then you're stuffed.

I'm not saying not to bother with multi-level set-ups, I'm just pointing out what may be an issue concerning site insurance. This isn't so much an issue for players, but it is for site operators since not all players will just shrug and say "hazards of the game"

[--SC(+)PE--]

Nice Video Pablo, wish we had a site like that.

Tigger

vtec wrote: »

to be honest i think its a shame people would be mentioning things like "slipping on the stairs" and all that cr*p., its a war game for jasus sake.,lol, if we go there to play then we should at least accept that we might trip over just as we might when we walk down o connell street or when your going to bed at night.,
i know if i fall i wont to cryin like a baby, (well not while you lot are looking) and bitching about it, just brush yourself off and get back in the game.,

what he said

ambro25

ScumLord wrote: »

Well seeing as it's a warehouse why not just use pretend stock and have a warehouse setup. The kind of shelving that's in warehouses should be available 2nd hand dirt cheap (and probably damaged but it won't need to hold any weight) after that a load of empty boxes, oil barrels and pallets would make the whole scene look authentic.

I quite like that too. I can just picture close-fighting, cardboard boxes getting riddled with BBs all around, plastic goblets flying about - John Woo with plastic BBs, Hell Yeah!!!

Damn.. Gonna have to get me a '5K again! (I can hear tonyj_mc laughing his head off from here :mad: )

zero19

Could have a few pallet trucks loaded with boxes and use them as moving cover lol

A.T.F

This sounds cool Ireland needs a CQB facility!!!!!

Masada

is insurance a legal requirement? i dont know anything as far as thats concerned but id be happy to sign a waiver before going in, giving me full responsibility for my own health and safety and if the site operated this as a policy then there wouldnt be any problems would there?

tonyj_mc

ambro25 wrote: »

I quite like that too. I can just picture close-fighting, cardboard boxes getting riddled with BBs all around, plastic goblets flying about - John Woo with plastic BBs, Hell Yeah!!!

Damn.. Gonna have to get me a '5K again! (I can hear tonyj_mc laughing his head off from here :mad: )

ah well, all fair in airsoft and war

ScumLord

vtec wrote: »

i know if i fall i wont to cryin like a baby, (well not while you lot are looking) and bitching about it, just brush yourself off and get back in the game.,

I agree but say you fall down the stairs and end up in a comma would your family think about it the same way.

Most airsofters would run into any place like this blindly too, we need to be protected against our selfs to a certain extent.

tonyj_mc

and to get slightly more on topic this sounds pretty slick like the idea of the warehouse set up, should be eay enough to set and customise

tonyj_mc

ScumLord wrote: »

I agree but say you fall down the stairs and end up in a comma would your family think about it the same way.

Most airsofters would run into any place like this blindly too, we need to be protected against our selfs to a certain extent.

plus all it takes in one person to sue the site and insurance or not it'll be closed down

ED E

ScumLord wrote: »

.....scene look authentic. I'd assume raiding warehouses would be a fairly common occurrence for police forces around the world.

24:p Its all CTU ever do:D

ScumLord

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

24:p Its all CTU ever do:D

CTU don't do anything other than chase jack around trying to throw him in jail while he's off saving the world.

Fallschirmjager

yeah i have to agree anything other then pallets...i am all palletted out...

also would it be possible for night or darkened options....say limited lighting (again conscious of the insurance issue)

so to give you an idea....

each team gets control of the lights each round...so assault can use it for the beginning of an attack

or the defenders can use it to cover where they are....

would be excellent with tracer and nvg....and would be really cool with snipers...yes the most boring people on the planet have a use here ...LOL

the other thing i would like is for some of the walls to be covered with cardboard. so have say 5 entrances walled up with cardboard allowing the SWAT/SPEC OPS/ARU to sneak in via cutting or simulate a breach....add some cheap strobe lights with an on and off switch and bingo we are engrossed...

also on a smaller point...great for the rain..

kdouglas

vtec wrote: »

is insurance a legal requirement? i dont know anything as far as thats concerned but id be happy to sign a waiver before going in, giving me full responsibility for my own health and safety and if the site operated this as a policy then there wouldnt be any problems would there?

public liability is the absolute minimum as far as i know

unit88

were about in douth dublin sound like an excellent idea i could be easyer to reach for people who do not have cars and cnnot get out to hrta on a regular basis:D

millnc30

Sounds very good:Di wud be up for sum CQB:D

zero19

If it were on the Luas line i'd cack myself lol

nonex

kdouglas wrote: »

public liability is the absolute minimum as far as i know

and insurance for the warehouse, this has to be 2 times the price of the warehouse, and get new planing for airsoft at € 56 a sqm.

ScumLord

zero19 wrote: »

If it were on the Luas line i'd cack myself lol

Ye Dubliners are spoilt already I'll be terribly upset if life gets any easier for ye.

zero19

ScumLord wrote: »

Ye Dubliners are spoilt already I'll be terribly upset if life gets any easier for ye.

I'm not a Dub

ScumLord

zero19 wrote: »

I'm not a Dub

Ojk, I'm happy for you so.

zero19

Lmao Thanks man

ED E

Q: Where is the OP. No response at all from him/her??? Anybody else thinking spoofer?

Dave!

no

unit88

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

Q: Where is the OP. No response at all from him/her??? Anybody else thinking spoofer?

lethal give i say give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that he is setting up the warehouse for airsoft:)

o1s1n

unit88 wrote: »

lethal give i say give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that he is setting up the warehouse for airsoft:)

Exactly.

He did only post this yesterday you know.

Skatedude

I like the idea of some indoor arena, the indoors section in hrta was fun especialy durng the rain. if its done well, then it can be a lot of fun, I just need to get a 2nd deagle for the full john woo experience

IRISH RAIL

well all have an mp5 by the end of the week my m4 would be too big for that:D

NakedDex

If this goes ahead I'm going shotgun hunting. My little MP7 comes into it's own in CQB and a decent shotgun, one of those Marui Tr-Barrel models for example, would be a damn useful unit to have with you.

As much as I love open-field warfare, I love fibua even more. I might even get an AUG A1 and a box of real-caps and go back through my old drills.

Spitfire666

a grated floor might be a good idea if it is to be a permanant site where you wont get to sweep the whole place after each day as it means the bb's can fall through and people can still move about without sliding all over the place.

NakedDex

Spitfire666 wrote: »

a grated floor might be a good idea if it is to be a permanant site where you wont get to sweep the whole place after each day as it means the bb's can fall through and people can still move about without sliding all over the place.

<Raises hand>
I for one have broken couple flash hiders, a hop and a fore-sight from slipping on bbs while running for cover.

Fallschirmjager

Spitfire666 wrote: »

a grated floor might be a good idea if it is to be a permanant site where you wont get to sweep the whole place after each day as it means the bb's can fall through and people can still move about without sliding all over the place.

what a great idea...excellent lateral thinking there..

good one sf...

Spitfire666

it could be done with metal grates to give a meat factory look or on the cheap with the rubber mats that you find in saunas and swimming pools. they just roll out and can be cut to shapr.