Mount Leinster Digital.

topazkk

Hi folks,

Does anyone know what schedule the DTT transmissions from Mount Leinster are following,are they always on or intermittent? I've got a TV with digital receiver connected to VHF/UHF aerials that are receiving pretty good reception of the analogue stations from there (RTE 1/2,TV3 and TG4).I've done regular searches at different times but still haven't suceeded in receiving anything.

Cheers,

Brendan.:)

maxg

If you use an group A uhf aerial you probably get not so much signal strength for ch45.

kmurph

I'm in Wexford town and as of last night & this morning, I'm picking up the 4 Irish tv channels & the radio stations via the freeview receiver on my Samsung tv.

marclt

kmurph wrote: »

I'm in Wexford town and as of last night & this morning, I'm picking up the 4 Irish tv channels & the radio stations via the freeview receiver on my Samsung tv.

Are they in the clear now? Anyone know the technical parameters from Mt. Leinster (power/direction etc)?

Cannot understand why they can't use the A group UHF allocation for digital channels... i wonder how many people who have just had a new aerial for TV3/TG4 (there are still many in the south east who don't) have a wideband or a group aerial. Putting the dtt frequencies higher up the band seems silly if it could be avoided.

watty

Ah but you only need Digital. The Analog will be turned off in a few years

topazkk

maxg wrote: »

If you use an group A uhf aerial you probably get not so much signal strength for ch45.

I'm not quite sure as to the group but it's a rectangular aerial called a Colour King if I'm not mistaken and vertically polarised, both it and my VHF RTE aerial are in the attic at the moment but I'm mounting them outside probably tomorrow due to annoying interference I'm experiencing at the moment. (see other post).

Appreciate any advice.

maxg

UHF should be horizontal polarised.
Your interference problem is maybe caused from the choosen vcr channel which break the 1 5 9 rule.

Benolam

Can someone please clarify which channel on Mt. Leinster carries the 4 FTA Irish channels. Is it 39 or 45. I have seen conflicting reports.

topazkk

maxg wrote: »

UHF should be horizontal polarised.
Your interference problem is maybe caused from the choosen vcr channel which break the 1 5 9 rule.

Thanks for the reply Maxg, as for the 1 5 9 rule I have come across it before but can't remember what exactly it means, something to do with chosen VCR channel position in relation to other channels, yes?

Thanks again,
Brendan.:)

maxg

Calculate your analogue channels by yourself.
http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/TV/Taboo-Channel-Calculator.html

maxg

Benolam wrote: »

Can someone please clarify which channel on Mt. Leinster carries the 4 FTA Irish channels. Is it 39 or 45. I have seen conflicting reports.

Its a test and they can choose what they want from the 4 frequencies reservated for DTT.
You have to check by yourself what is the preferred frequency of the day.

e17

i get DTT perfect on ch45 from mount leinster

topazkk

e17 wrote: »

i get DTT perfect on ch45 from mount leinster

e17 where are you situated? Is anyone aware of digital transmissions being received in New Ross, south Kilkenny or Waterford?

Mossy Monk

Interested to know if anyone around the Dungarvan area is receiving a signal. TV3 and TG4 can be viewed strongly with an aerial from Mount Leinster.

topazkk

topazkk wrote: »

e17 where are you situated? Is anyone aware of digital transmissions being received in New Ross, south Kilkenny or Waterford?

He's near carlow .

watty

Patience Grasshoppers

Worry about August/September 2008 time.

Gadgie

Coming in loud and clear here in Dunmore East.

I bought one of the cheap USB dongles from eBay and did a scan. Picked up something on channel 39 but no channels found. The four Irish terrestrials were found on channel 45 plus eight radio stations.

According to channel information the provider is BT Ireland.

bassy

just received my sagem freeview box today and plugged it in,and did a fresh scan on it,and i have 4 tv channels,8 radio stations.sd test channel and hd test channel there also only able to hear the audio on those.

rte1,rte2,tv3,tg4 all perfect on my freeview box,have added some pictures for you to see.

did notice when i had scanned it said 25 channels scanned,but i only receive the above mention,i persume the others that were scanned that don,t come on my box are the encrypted ones?.

also i notice that my signal strength is 27% and my quality is 95%,have tryed moving my aerial but cannot get it any better than 27%,but it does not effect my picture so i,m happy.

waster81

hi where did u buy your box? it cost much

bassy

bought my box on ebay for 25 euros delivered:)

waster81 wrote: »

hi where did u buy your box? it cost much

channelsurfer

oh that info layout is the exact same as the chorus mmds box type info. looks a carbon copy of it. anyone know if dtt can be picked up in tullamore or offaly yet?

bassy

ye thats because i,m using a sagem freeview box.

channelsurfer wrote: »

oh that info layout is the exact same as the chorus mmds box type info. looks a carbon copy of it. anyone know if dtt can be picked up in tullamore or offaly yet?

Mossy Monk

The HD Test Channel is available from Mount Leinster?

bassy

hi mossy the hd channel is there yes,but can only hear the audio for obvious reasons.

Mossy Monk wrote: »

The HD Test Channel is available from Mount Leinster?

Gadgie

Mossy Monk wrote: »

The HD Test Channel is available from Mount Leinster?

On channel 42.

Cuchulain

Great.
Two questions.

1) Would I need a clear view to mount Leinster to get DDT
2) Is there a distance limitation (Im probably around 10-12 miles way from Mt Leinster)

ga2re2t

channelsurfer wrote: »

anyone know if dtt can be picked up in tullamore or offaly yet?

I was wondering this too. Anyone know?

bassy

answer to your 1st question,i don,t have a clearview of mt.leinster.
your 2nd question, i am over 20-30 miles from mt.leinster.

just raised my aerial higher today and signal strength and quality is 61% and 98%.

you should have no trouble picking it up.

Cuchulain wrote: »

Great.
Two questions.

1) Would I need a clear view to mount Leinster to get DDT
2) Is there a distance limitation (Im probably around 10-12 miles way from Mt Leinster)

bassy

can you receive the analogue rte1,2,tv3,tg4 from mt.leinster?,if you can receive the analogue channels then i would say yes you should be able to pick up the DTT service from mt.leinster.

i,m delighted with mine.:)

ga2re2t wrote: »

I was wondering this too. Anyone know?

gwynrug

Leinster DTT (four channels, radio, HD and SD at full strength and full quality north of Fishguard, 300 ft above sea level! (Analogue has always been perfect).

gwynrug

Leinster DTT at full strength and quality north of Fishguard, Wales, 300 ft above sea level.!

Cuchulain

Thanks for your replies guys. My analogue reception is quite poor through a cats ears in the attic. I dont have an external aerial.

Given that DTT is being transmitted from same place, would the reception of DTT correlate to my current reception of analogue? e.g. given my current analague is poor does that mean my dtt signal will be poor?

Mossy Monk

I would recommend a proper aerial in the attic if you do not want to put one outside..

jabarrett35

Hi I live in the Tramore area and my signal strenght is poor I've 2 outside UHF aerials one for TV3 and TG4 and the other for the local deflector. Is there anything I can do to improve the strenght eg amplifiers or is the transmission poor any way?

jabarrett35

Hi I live in Tramore and I am receiving DTT when I scan on channels 39 and 45 but signal quality is poor and strength is about 20%. I've 2 outside UHF aerials. Is there anything I can do to improve the signal? Thank you

maxg

If you use a red marked group A aerial for mt.leinster you get not so much signal strength for the group B frequency range where the dtt channels are located.

jabarrett35

They must be working on the Mt leinster transmitter because the signal strength has been poor and the same with the quality. They have also been swapping between ch 39 and 45 and then about mid night the signal shot up too 90% and quality very good. Has anyone else noticed this going on? The channel swapping is very annoying!

watty

It's engineering tests, not a service till about August.

jabarrett35

Watty, come August will the Uk standard freeview box still work?

Gadgie

jabarrett35 wrote: »

Hi I live in Tramore and I am receiving DTT when I scan on channels 39 and 45 but signal quality is poor and strength is about 20%. I've 2 outside UHF aerials. Is there anything I can do to improve the signal? Thank you

The reason your DTT signal is poor is probably because channels 39 and 45 are being picked up by the aerial pointing at the deflector transmitter and not by the aerial pointing at Mount Leinster. Also the deflector aerial is positioned vertically whereas the Mount Leinster one will be horizontal.

watty

jabarrett35 wrote: »

Watty, come August will the Uk standard freeview box still work?

The likelyhood of a UK box being good this time next year is low.

Hissing Sideban

According to a senior source in the BCI whose head of the DTT project, MPEG2 (i.e. the UK standard) will definately not be used when official broadcasts start. Mind you , things could possibly change if there was a problem obtaining receivers etc, but the most likely scenario is for MPG 4 to be used exclusively

maxg

BCI is not responsible for the rte mux and there is no official statement from rte till now.
You have to wait and see.

jabarrett35

I have horizontal aerial as well and signal is 90% on channel 45 but it will have changed by the morning I expect. Both channels work then only one and the signal strenght is very variable. However as Watty says its only a trial, but why trial using a system that your not going to use. I live in London is 1998 when Ondigtal started the box then was the same during the trial and at launch. You would think they would be more certain what system they are going use especially as UK box are freely avialable here. Sounds like it will be another money making con!

Mossy Monk

Using MPEG4 will not be a money making con. It will be a wise decision.

watty

Indeed MPEG4 is so compelling all HD uses it and all Cable, Satellite, MMDS and terrestrial worldwide is gradually updating SD (ordinary resolution) to it..

It allows 14 channels in the space of 6. Without it DTT has no future against cable and Satellite.

jabarrett35

Fine,but why trial using MPEG2 . The MPEG4 box are they avialable no; will they be expensive I suggest they will. How may stations will there be that so much bandwith will be need. Sky have complete control of the pay tv system. RTE is not FTA on the platform so what real chance has DTT.

marclt

jabarrett35 wrote: »

Fine,but why trial using MPEG2 . The MPEG4 box are they avialable no; will they be expensive I suggest they will. How may stations will there be that so much bandwith will be need. Sky have complete control of the pay tv system. RTE is not FTA on the platform so what real chance has DTT.

Technology, its availability and the price will be the determining factor! Trouble is, will manufacturers make tvs that are up to the standard? The plan for the UK is to move over to MPEG 4, but it is only a proposal at this stage.

Are TVs on sale in the UK at the moment going to be MPEG4 happy, or not? I just want a tv that upgrades what we have now... I don't need any more add on boxes sitting underneath it.

watty

France from the Autumn practically mandatory.

Most TVs sold here don't have ANY digital tuner, even many so called HD sets.

You might do it with a Neotion module in the TV's CI / CAM slot. I'd wait till the Autumn. There is no service at present and no offical announcement as to when there will be.

Pioneers get arrows in the back.

L1011

I've a 6 month old HD set with no DTT tuner, not even if you set it to a non-Irish mode... Philips and all.

marclt

watty wrote: »

I'd wait till the Autumn. There is no service at present and no offical announcement as to when there will be.

So the current frequencies and broadcast power's are just for the trial, what happens when the trial concludes? There seems to be no end of change for people with a move from vhf to uhf never fully completed and now, in the south east at least analogue uhf in band a, and the trial in uhf band B.

Is there a plan, somewhere?