Building the new bridge..?

dazftw

Brother only told me the other day they have started building the new bridge up by the Red Iron he said theres like two big pillars in the water..

Anyone know about this? Was thinking it would be cool to go up and get a picture now and then one when there was a bridge there!

Jrad

Yes, that would be a good idea. The red iron, some deadly sessions had up dere boi!

Cabaal

I believe somebody here already has pictures from when they first started but I'd agree its something I've been looking to do for a while to,

try the search option if you want to see the photos,

kensutz

In the dark they have both pillars floodlit. The 2 support pillars are absolutely massive.

Baby4

This post has been deleted.

fricatus

As you drive in the N24 from the Mooncoin direction, near Grannagh Castle there's a section of road where you're coming down a hill and can see the work on the opposite bank of the river.

Right now you can see the two massive support pillars, plus a very, very tall tower crane. I reckon the height of the pillars to be about the same as a seven-storey building right now, but that's just my (uneducated) guess!

Looks amazing though. When it's built, it will be some sight for people coming in on the N24.

Sully

I tried to take shots (from a normal camera!) from Red Iron and even closer (site entrance) but the quality is pretty poor. The pillars have been there for sometime now.

dazftw

Im going have to take a walk down there and see what I can see I didnt know about this at all lol.

I thought the bridge was going down the other end of the quay which is probably a better place to even oout all the traffic, all the traffic crossing the bidge is just going to be up that end now.

JohnC.

dazftw wrote: »

I thought the bridge was going down the other end of the quay which is probably a better place to even oout all the traffic, all the traffic crossing the bidge is just going to be up that end now.

This bridge is connecting with the bypass, not the quays. Well, I suppose you will be able to get to the quays from it eventually, but it is for the bypass.

mike65

Mike.

fricatus

On my way to KK this morning around 8.20, halfway between the city and Mullinavat, there were about six extra-long lorries parked pointing southwards, each with a massive big concrete beam on it. No doubt they'd been transported down overnight, and no doubt they were for some part of the road building that's going on at the moment.

Anyone any information on this? It was a seriously impressive sight!

JohnC.

fricatus wrote: »

On my way to KK this morning around 8.20, halfway between the city and Mullinavat, there were about six extra-long lorries parked pointing southwards, each with a massive big concrete beam on it. No doubt they'd been transported down overnight, and no doubt they were for some part of the road building that's going on at the moment.

Anyone any information on this? It was a seriously impressive sight!

I'd think they would be for one of the many bridges that seem to be coming with this project.

fricatus

Kahless wrote: »

I'd think they would be for one of the many bridges that seem to be coming with this project.

No doubt... because this is the first big road-building project I've ever lived near, I wasn't familiar with the processes at all, but it seems to be that they build bits (like bridges) out in the middle of a field, then leave them for a few months while they do other stuff, and then come back and do more where they had been below. I imagine they do it this way because of ground subsidence or something. Bridges and pillars probably "sink" a few cm into the ground when they're built, so allowance is made for a certain amount of settling. I'd love to hear from a roads engineer on this... seems fascinating.

Cabaal

Yeah they tend to built the bridges first alright, its interesting to see all the progress there making

tonc76

fricatus wrote: »

No doubt... because this is the first big road-building project I've ever lived near, I wasn't familiar with the processes at all, but it seems to be that they build bits (like bridges) out in the middle of a field, then leave them for a few months while they do other stuff, and then come back and do more where they had been below. I imagine they do it this way because of ground subsidence or something. Bridges and pillars probably "sink" a few cm into the ground when they're built, so allowance is made for a certain amount of settling. I'd love to hear from a roads engineer on this... seems fascinating.

A huge amount of ground investigation is carried out where bridges are to be located. Where possible the abutments are built on rock i.e. excavation takes place until rock is reached and then build up from there. There are a number of ways around this if rock is not "available" such as draining/pumping the water from the soils and applying a large load which consolidates (compacts) the soil. Structures can be started before mainline works to allow for additional settlement (which should be minimal) and also to allow for curing times of concrete used. Concrete used in the foundation will have a curing time (i.e 30 days) and large pours (height wise) are not used as the concrete/aggregate mix can seperate if being poured from a height. Therefore the concrete is poured in say 2m sections (vertically) and the next section cannot be poured until the concrete below has cured. When you take the finished height of the bridge into consideration you can see why it takes so long to build.

The concrete sections that were on the trucks that you saw would be precast as bridge building tends to be a mixture of in situ works and precast beams "dropped" into place.

JohnC.

I'd love to go up in a helicopter to get an aerial view of the state of things now. A few months back, I had reason to travel on several back roads around the area and it was amazing to see just how much there was going on all around, but hard to get an overall picture.

BBM77

Funnily enough I was down there yesterday; here are some shots I took.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc4/Ballybrickenman/014.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc4/Ballybrickenman/044.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc4/Ballybrickenman/029.jpg

AdMMM

That crane really is a site to behold! I wouldn't like to be up in it when there's a bit of a breeze, let alone a gust!

fricatus

tonc76 wrote: »

A huge amount of ground investigation is carried out where bridges are to be located. Where possible the abutments are built on rock i.e. excavation takes place until rock is reached and then build up from there. There are a number of ways around this if rock is not "available" such as draining/pumping the water from the soils and applying a large load which consolidates (compacts) the soil. Structures can be started before mainline works to allow for additional settlement (which should be minimal) and also to allow for curing times of concrete used. Concrete used in the foundation will have a curing time (i.e 30 days) and large pours (height wise) are not used as the concrete/aggregate mix can seperate if being poured from a height. Therefore the concrete is poured in say 2m sections (vertically) and the next section cannot be poured until the concrete below has cured. When you take the finished height of the bridge into consideration you can see why it takes so long to build.

The concrete sections that were on the trucks that you saw would be precast as bridge building tends to be a mixture of in situ works and precast beams "dropped" into place.

Fascinating stuff tonc76... thanks a million for that!

Ballybrickenman, wow, awesome pictures! This bridge is truly going to be the envy of the entire country.

Sully

Ballybrickenman; Can you cut the size down there a tad bit, tis a bit to big. Thanks.

Charter wrote:

Post full scale pictures in a topic. Either link to the image, or scale it down to thumbnail size (and link it to full scale, if you wish). This is to benefit dialup and mobile users. Ignoring this rule is an instant 2 week ban. (See "Note 1")

Excellent shots, though I dont see much of a change since my last visit a few months ago!

Bards

Sully wrote: »

Ballybrickenman; Can you cut the size down there a tad bit, tis a bit to big. Thanks.



Excellent shots, though I dont see much of a change since my last visit a few months ago!

I pass by there every day, and let me tell you the two Concrete Pillarsw have grown considerably over the past two months (About double the height in 2 months)

BBM77

Sully wrote: »

Ballybrickenman; Can you cut the size down there a tad bit, tis a bit to big. Thanks.

Sorted!

ChapOfDRyans

|.Murderer.| wrote: »

That crane really is a site to behold! I wouldn't like to be up in it when there's a bit of a breeze, let alone a gust!

once your over the height factor its grand and even without wind they sway so that it would pull it's self down and its also allow to swing freely for the same reason

Sully

Bards wrote: »

I pass by there every day, and let me tell you the two Concrete Pillarsw have grown considerably over the past two months (About double the height in 2 months)

Really? Christ, my memory is pretty awful. I didn't think they grew much at all over the last few months! Must dig out those photos I took, and compare to see it. Thanks Bards. Has much other work being taken place since?

Ballybrickenman wrote: »

Sorted!

Appreciated!

Tragamin2k2

A few close ups Clicky
Im not familiar with all this photobucket lark, so its a bebo album

Sully

If you can upload to Bebo, its the same as uploading to Pix.ie (or photobucket) apart from being much faster (multiple uploads - as in more then 5 per go! and much faster).

Nice shots though. Careful on those sites, might get in trouble or seriously injured!

dazftw

The go of it!!! lol

Man thats huge didnt think it would be that big now. It might foggy tomorrow and it would make for some interesting pictures!

merlante

Bypass works at night, taken on Saturday from Grannagh.
Flickr pic.

soldering iron

http://pix.ie/hubcapon/458431/in/album/319453

JohnC.

soldering iron wrote: »

http://pix.ie/hubcapon/458431/in/album/319453

Am I missing something to display them bigger or are they originally small pictures?

Sully

There uploaded small.

soldering iron: If your using Pix.ie, they will automatically resize the pictures for you. I assume you uploaded them small?

Roen

Shots taken from this location

Shot one is a general over view of the site looking NE back toward the city and Granagh castle.



Shot two is of the flyover (which can be seen to the left of the first pic) into the Carriganore campus of WIT, .



And shot three was taken a little bit down from the other two, the buildings in the far distance on the opposite of the river are Lawter and the other industrial units past Granagh. Granagh castle can be seen just at the bend in the river and is near the location of the new bridge. The project really is enormous and it's impressive to be able to look the two miles back in toward town and then turn your head 180 degrees and still look up toward Mount Congreve and still see the road disappear off into the distance.

fricatus

When were those taken Roen?

Roen

According to the EXIF data they were taken between 14:17 and 14:25 today Fricatus, I got out late on my lunch break and went for a wander through the fields for about 20 minutes.

BIG-SLICK-POKER

http://www.bridgebuilder-game.com/

Speaking of Bridges Try this out i was addicted for a year in work , When i did some that is

soldering iron

Roen wrote: »

According to the EXIF data they were taken between 14:17 and 14:25 today Fricatus, I got out late on my lunch break and went for a wander through the fields for about 20 minutes.

Pic 1

Pic 2

one of these pictures was when that overpass was been built it is the same as one of the pictures that you said you took yesterday,the other picture is in the same area and is also of the overpass bridge finished and that was taken just before christmas.

I will get another infraction for this (billy) but what the

Roen

If you read my post you see the overpass I was referring to was the one leading to the WIT campus in Carriganore, not the one you photographed.

I think the one you took pictures of is visible in the middle right of the third picture, partially obscured by some beech trees.

Roen

EXIF data.

fricatus

Roen wrote: »

According to the EXIF data they were taken between 14:17 and 14:25 today Fricatus, I got out late on my lunch break and went for a wander through the fields for about 20 minutes.

Wow, that's a thorough answer! I was expecting a reply like "last week"!

So there are two flyovers, is that right? One joining the outer ring (extension north of B&Q) to the new N25, and the other joining Carriganore to the outer ring (westlink?) extension.?

Roen

fricatus wrote: »

Wow, that's a thorough answer! I was expecting a reply like "last week"!

So there are two flyovers, is that right? One joining the outer ring (extension north of B&Q) to the new N25, and the other joining Carriganore to the outer ring (westlink?) extension.?

As far as I can see the answer is most definitely 'yes'. The completed one in Soldering Iron's pics and the one under construction in my pics.
I have a feeling there may be more though, I mean it's two miles to where the new bridge will be from where I took the pic. Surely there must be more.

Typhoon.

nice peices of kit roen:eek:

Bards

more info can be found below
http://www.ascon.ie/live/ascon/aproject_details.asp?id=147&section1=1&sub_section=1

http://www.crg.ie/news.htm

Roen

That first link mentions tolls, can anyone confirm if the bridge/road will be tolled?

tonc76

There will be a toll plaza south of the river crossing to the south east of "Suir"

Other facts Project Length (Km):
N25 Bypass:18 km
Tie-ins and Links: 9 km
Carriageway Type:
Dual:23 km
Single:4 km
Number of Bridges:
River:5
Road:12
Rail :4
Earthworks Quantities:
Cut (m3):3.5 million
Fill (m3):2 million
Land Acquisition (Ha): 220

Roen

Cheers Tonc,
I must walk down a bit further to see if the booths are being built yet.

wellbutty

In this photo you can see some of the plaza booth foundations. Anyone any idea whats with the big building beside it???! To count all the money maybe???? Remember the bridge wont need a control room cos it wont be raised...

wellbutty

Whelans bridge near Kilmeaden is well worth a visit, you can get right into the thick of the action. Pic 1 is a glimpse, Pic 2 is the stream its crossing, Pic 3 shows how high this structure is...I'm 6 foot tall...

shockwave

Has the bridge got a name yet? Or has that been decided ?

deisemum

shockwave wrote: »

Has the bridge got a name yet? Or has that been decided ?

The powers that be might run another competition for people to submit appropriate names for it :rolleyes:

spartacus93

portlairge

had the pleasure of a risk visit to the new bridge today:cool:. it is currently ahead od scedule and it is at a height of 70meters with approx another 80meters to go the two pylons will be joined and then go straight up. was up at the top 70meters standing on a 2" plank of timber and it was f***ing scary wind howling and the swaying was scary:eek::eek:. as you look at it in the 1st pic the pylon on the right is been built byitalians and the one on the right by portugese. not an irishman in sight.. it was an experience and we will be visiting again when it is at its full height before the cables go in.. should get some good pics then if ive got the guts to stand nearly 450ft up on a 2"plank of timber held onto the pylon by a couple of scaffold poles see 3rd pic....:D