critique my diet please

fatal

I started Mark Rippletoes's strength programme recently and have changed my diet to something along the lines of the following:

Breakfast
Porridge
5 raw eggs(2 yolks 5 whites)

Snack
2 oranges
1 apple
500ml milk

Lunch
Triple decker sandwich-plain chicken,brown bread,tiny bit of mayo,lettuce
500ml milk

late afternoon snack
2 tins tuna 500ml milk

pre workout
Creatine and protein shake

Post workout
Protein shake

Dinner
Steamed chicken with steamed potatoes and other veggies
500ml milk

Bedtime
500ml milk
another piece of fruit

Im also drinking around 2 litres of water a day


What aspects of my current diet should I change?What else should I incorporate into it?

N00b2fitness

Looks good to me aside from all the milk and the triple decker - consider adding some nuts into your snacks as a source of protein. I don't do supplements so I can't comment there.

Someone's gonna ask this so I might as well get the ball rolling.

It would help to know the following:

What are your goals? Looks like a get huge diet to me. Before someone says your goals are obvious because of the routine you're doing, I'd argue not necessarily. I'm on the same programme but my goal would be different, 70% fat loss, 30% muscle gain would be my goal (makes no sense to percentage it that way but you get the idea...)

How many times are you going to the gym and what are your general activity levels? Are you doing any cardio? What kind?

If you are looking for some fat loss I'm sure it could be tweaked - dropping the milk consumption a bit assuming it's full fat, changing the carb intake and if it's hugeness your after you might need to beef up the protein intake a bit....

Where are you at right now in terms of weight/size/body fat and where do you want to be?

What's with all the milk? Is it full fat, super milk or skimmed?

As a matter of interest, how long have you been at this diet and have you seen any results? If so - keep at it.

Hanley

N00b2fitness wrote: »

Looks good to me aside from all the milk and the triple decker - consider adding some nuts into your snacks as a source of protein.

Assuming the goal in undertaking the "starting strength" program is to increase strength and muscle mass his diet looks really bloody good. Can you explain what's wrong with the sandwich and the milk?

fatal

what in the triple decker made it so "bad"?I thought that brown bread with plain chicken,a load of leaves and a tiny bit of coleslaw would be quite good.

My primary goal is to put on size.Im going to the gym 3 times a week which is all the ripploes programme requires.Im also doing jiu jitsu twice a week which counts towards another form of excercise aswell as cardio.Im also hoping to incorporate a couple of miles of running 5 days a week into my programme

The milk is mostly low fat but full fat at times.Its an easy way for me get extra calories aswell as protein.Hence why I drink so much of it.

Im 20,5ft 10/11 and just under 200lbs.Ive been on this kind of diet for almost 3 weeks now and have put on about 10lbs.

Hanley

fatal wrote: »

what in the triple decker made it so "bad"?I thought that brown bread with plain chicken,a load of leaves and a tiny bit of coleslaw would be quite good.

My primary goal is to put on size.Im going to the gym 3 times a week which is all the ripploes programme requires.Im also doing jiu jitsu twice a week which counts towards another form of excercise aswell as cardio.Im also hoping to incorporate a couple of miles of running 5 days a week into my programme

The milk is mostly low fat but full fat at times.Its an easy way for me get extra calories aswell as protein.Hence why I drink so much of it.

Im 20,5ft 10/11 and just under 200lbs.Ive been on this kind of diet for almost 3 weeks now and have put on about 10lbs.

Ok, stop reading right now. Everything else that is going to be said in this thread will only end up confusing you. Take it from a *genetic freak with age on his side* what you're doing is a great way to gain muscle and strength.

Just stick with it bro, you're doing well and at that weight and height I'd say you're starting to fill out nicely.


*I'm the only person allowed to eat like that because I'm gifted and young and know how to train. My results are the exception and not the rule, apparently.
You should probably go onto t-nation and follow john berardi's newest and greatest diet

N00b2fitness

Hanley wrote: »

Ok, stop reading right now. Everything else that is going to be said in this thread will only end up confusing you. Take it from a *genetic freak with age on his side* what you're doing is a great way to gain muscle and strength.

Just stick with it bro, you're doing well and at that weight and height I'd say you're starting to fill out nicely.

Sounds like you two fellas know your stuff a lot more than I do - so eeeh - I'd listen to yer man and yourself - no sarcasm there I mean that.

At least I replied to your thread - which promoted a bit more discussion on the topic and endorsed what you're doing... so I don't feel completely useless.

Hanley

N00b2fitness wrote: »

Sounds like you two fellas know your stuff a lot more than I do - so eeeh - I'd listen to yer man and yourself - no sarcasm there I mean that.

At least I replied to your thread - which promoted a bit more discussion on the topic and endorsed what you're doing... so I don't feel completely useless.

Just to clarify, I WAS being sarcastic up there. And haha yeah... fair point on promoting discussion! Don't be afraid to make points if you've arguments to back them up. I love nothing more than a good debate. It doesn't even matter what it's about. I'll argue anything. Hell I could end up switching sides half way thru. I just like challenging blanket statements.

Case in point... I slag BMI because it tells me I'm obese, but today I was defending it's usefulness for most people!

N00b2fitness

Hanley wrote: »

Case in point... I slag BMI because it tells me I'm obese, but today I was defending it's usefulness for most people!

You're obese? That's a good one alright - I've seen what you look like. I reckon you should cut out all that milk mate it's not doing you any favours. And maybe you should lay off those triple deckers too. - I got the sarcasm in your 2nd post btw...

But in all seriousness and getting back on topic - I didn't think my programme, diet and goal was too dissimilar from the OP at a first glance, which is why I opened my gob - But taking into consideration the Jiu Jitsu and extra running and the progress that's been made, the OP and I are after fairly different things! I guess my comments were more my thinking out loud and surmising about my own diet and how it could be improved - so apologies if it may have mislead.

This may be a bit of a thread hijack, so for that I apologise but for anyone else who is starting out, just lurking or considering a programme for relative starters - It seems that the Rippetoe (sp?) programme, supplemented with the right diet can have a wide ranging and farily impressive effect. It seems the OP has packed on some mass (Good stuff btw...) by using it with that diet and I have managed to lose lots of fat following it with a slightly different diet (I started at about 90kg in early Jan - now at 83 but sooooo much muscle added despite the weight loss) so it would seem to me, then that it's a pretty versatile, achieveable and effective programme.

I'm new to this game, so maybe any effort which didn't involve sitting on my ass, eating crap and boozing was going to reap huge results but still - I'm addicted now - bordering on obsessed about it - so I highly recommend it.

Over and out...