The Wolfetones

Volvoboy

Whats your opinion on the Wolfetones?

I've been a fan for a few years now and i dont consider myself a scumbag or a IRA activist, I enjoy there songs and stories. One of my favorites being The Merman. As much as i like the ballads.


What are your views of The Wolfetones?



-VB-

FunkZ

Who R dey Wolfetones?1

Overheal

and you dare to call me a terrorist while you look down your gun?

Stupid village pubs and their jukebox....

Silverfish

If only we had a music forum! Oh wai........

Tha Gopher

In fairness keep it here. I think its more a discussion of whether rebel music is acceptable to listen to, rather than whether we like the actual sound of the Wolfe Tones.

Personally nothin like a rake of pints and a bit of Come Out Ya Black and Tans

Overheal

I see nothing wrong with exploring other Point of Views. In my opinion for instance its silly to be labelled an X for listening to Y. Theres some strange taboo that some people have about listening to both sides of an argument with the same objectivity.

Bros123

I was working in a hotel a few years ago and The Wolfe Tones had booked a room for a "concert".
By 12.30 there was about 30 Gardai and 5 paddywagons and lots of blood to clean up.
A great night had by all.

guinnessdrinker

I seen them twice, both times the venues they played in were packed and everyone enjoyed the night. Btw didn't see any Gardai outside on either occassion or any blood for that matter.

Bros123

guinnessdrinker wrote: »

I seen them twice, both times the venues they played in were packed and everyone enjoyed the night. Btw didn't see any Gardai outside on either occassion or any blood for that matter.

Weren't you the lucky one.:rolleyes:

biko

Seen Derek Warfield and Sons of Erin. Great craic.
I recall this black lad at the gig who was singing along like mad, knew every single lyric. Fair play

I've actually also some music by Brian Ervine, brother of David Ervine. Good voice on him.

mikemac

Bros123 wrote: »

I was working in a hotel a few years ago and The Wolfe Tones had booked a room for a "concert".
By 12.30 there was about 30 Gardai and 5 paddywagons and lots of blood to clean up.
A great night had by all.

I too was working in a hotel with a Wolfe Tones concert. We had plastic glasses like you see at gigs. There were still paddywagons and plenty of arrests though.

Gavin "shels"

Don't really like the Wolfetones, much prefer Eire Óg.

ziggy

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arybvtcw0eolkf

guinnessdrinker wrote: »

I seen them twice, both times the venues they played in were packed and everyone enjoyed the night. Btw didn't see any Gardai outside on either occassion or any blood for that matter.

Same here.

Absolutely fantastic stuff.

Re. the Gardai & blood, well I think someone's imagination was running on over drive!.

Baudelaire

Hate Irish ballads, it's like really bad Country and Western but just adapted for a different country with even worse lyrics, this shouldn't be moved to the music forum because Irish ballads aren't music, they're just noise accompanied by oul fellas that drink and smoke to much shouting semi-intelligible drivel into a microphone. Just because it's "Rebel" songs ( :rolleyes: ) doesn't mean it's music.

Example, Every Christy Moore song ever can be summurised as:

I met a dog
It was on a log
He ate a frog
I seen a fog

Ohhhh listern varna, Listern Listern Listern Listern Vaaaaarrrrnaaaa
Ohhhh listern varna, Listern Listern Listern Listern Vaaaaarrrrnaaaa

I seen a chick
She had a dick
I had a lick
I'm not taking the mick

Ohhhh listern varna, Listern Listern Listern Listern Vaaaaarrrrnaaaa
Ohhhh listern varna, Listern Listern Listern Listern Vaaaaarrrrnaaaa

I rest my case.

mikemac

Mairt wrote: »

Re. the Gardai & blood, well I think someone's imagination was running on over drive!.

Yep, it's always the sober bar staff who lie, never the punters drinking.:rolleyes:

arybvtcw0eolkf

micmclo wrote: »

Yep, it's always the sober bar staff who lie

If the cap fits....

arybvtcw0eolkf

Baudelaire wrote: »

I rest my case.

Does that mean your leaving us now?.

Dave!

My view is that they're sh*te. I like rebel songs and don't really care if they fall into any particular political group, but I've heard alot of their stuff and it's really bad. Ever hear of harmony, fellas? She's great, you should give her a shot. The Dubliners (among others) do every ballad better than the Tones.

biko

Irish traditional music - drinking and chaos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6k1lml4AvE

Baudelaire

Mairt wrote: »

Does that mean your leaving us now?.

Why, does me expressing an opinion thats contrary to your own make you cry? I believe the original question was "Whats your opinion on the Wolfetones?" and not "Whats your good opinion on the Wolfetones?", I gave an opinion that was on topic, your reply wasn't and I'm not the only person that posted that thinks they're crap but I seem to be the only one you felt the need to single out...mmmm...intresting, did I hit a nerve?

Pherekydes

Overheal wrote: »

Point of Views

Points of view, FTW.

There's a special forum for the Wolfe Tones.

stepbar

Met Brian Warfield in my branch a few weeks back, nice man.

Only really got back into the Wolfe Tones a few years ago. Throwing aside all the political bollox, they do sing some rousing songs. "Come out ye black and tans" is one such song. Have to say my favourite is "The Streets of New York".

stepbar

Baudelaire wrote: »

Hate Irish ballads, it's like really bad Country and Western but just adapted for a different country with even worse lyrics, this shouldn't be moved to the music forum because Irish ballads aren't music, they're just noise accompanied by oul fellas that drink and smoke to much shouting semi-intelligible drivel into a microphone. Just because it's "Rebel" songs ( :rolleyes: ) doesn't mean it's music.

Example, Every Christy Moore song ever can be summurised as:

I met a dog
It was on a log
He ate a frog
I seen a fog

Ohhhh listern varna, Listern Listern Listern Listern Vaaaaarrrrnaaaa
Ohhhh listern varna, Listern Listern Listern Listern Vaaaaarrrrnaaaa

I seen a chick
She had a dick
I had a lick
I'm not taking the mick

Ohhhh listern varna, Listern Listern Listern Listern Vaaaaarrrrnaaaa
Ohhhh listern varna, Listern Listern Listern Listern Vaaaaarrrrnaaaa

I rest my case.

You don't know much about Irish music so. What a retarded comment to make :rolleyes:

Zaph

I got dragged along to see them in the Wexford Inn years ago. I can honestly say I have never enjoyed a gig less in all my life. I hate all that rebel song sh1te at the best of times, but when you're surrounded by a couple of hundred people shouting "Up the 'RA" every few seconds it adds a whole new dimension to it. I couldn't wait to get out of the place, the music was bad enough but the atmosphere was bloody intimidating.

Baudelaire

stepbar wrote: »

You don't know much about Irish music so. What a retarded comment to make :rolleyes:

Actually I know alot about it since I was forced to endure it as a child, just because I don't subscribe to the whole "It's Iorish so it must be good" mentality doesn't make my opinion retarded, it makes your opinion retarded because you assume everyone should like it like it's a rule. The simple rule here is if you all can't take an opinion that's opposite to your own well then questions shouldn't be asked that are open to the opposite of that opinion, simple as. As I said already the question was "Whats your opinion on the Wolfetones?" not "Whats your good opinion on the Wolfetones?" thats an open question that accepts the possibility of bad opinions too, my opinion is they are crap, can't sing for sh*t and sound like a bag of cats being fed through a Combine Harvester, it's no less a valid opinion than yours. If you want everyone to agree with you then I'd suggest setting up your own forum and then you can ban people that disagree with you :rolleyes: .

Xavi6

I personally can't stand rebel songs. I understand where they came from and respect that but unfortunately all I can associate them with is Celtic jerseys and scum bags.

Bros123

Mairt wrote: »

Same here.

Absolutely fantastic stuff.

Re. the Gardai & blood, well I think someone's imagination was running on over drive!.

Are you taking the piss???My imagination most certainly isn't running on overdrive and i can still vividly picture the blood,vomit and broken glass left by the very cultured audience that attended that evening.

Absolutely fantastic stuff??
I certainly don't think so.:rolleyes:

stepbar

Baudelaire wrote: »

Actually I know alot about it since I was forced to endure it as a child, just because I don't subscribe to the whole "It's Iorish so it must be good" mentality doesn't make my opinion retarded, it makes your opinion retarded because you assume everyone should like it like it's a rule. The simple rule here is if you all can't take an opinion that's opposite to your own well then questions shouldn't be asked that are open to the opposite of that opinion, simple as. As I said already the question was "Whats your opinion on the Wolfetones?" not "Whats your good opinion on the Wolfetones?" thats an open question that accepts the possibility of bad opinions too, my opinion is they are crap, can't sing for sh*t and sound like a bag of cats being fed through a Combine Harvester, it's no less a valid opinion than yours. If you want everyone to agree with you then I'd suggest setting up your own forum and then you can ban people that disagree with you :rolleyes: .

Of course its a retarded opinion. FFS you've just said that Christy Moore's life work boils down to a few well worn limericks :rolleyes:. Have you ever actually read one of his song and understood the reasoning behind it? I doubt you would know where Christy Moore gets his inspiration from. It's far from "semi - intelligible drivel". Now if you had to say something like "I don't like the way he sings" yada yada yada, I might have let it pass. But no, you tried to say something smart which wasn't very smart at all and pretty much stereotype every other Irish song along with it.

As for the Wolfe Tones, they have a mix of terrible songs and some that are very intelligently written. Nothing wrong with that.

Overheal

Xavi6 wrote: »

I personally can't stand rebel songs. I understand where they came from and respect that but unfortunately all I can associate them with is Celtic jerseys and scum bags.

In the same I associate the song black hole sun with epileptic flashing lights and psychedelic barbecues?

Zaph wrote:

I got dragged along to see them in the Wexford Inn years ago. I can honestly say I have never enjoyed a gig less in all my life. I hate all that rebel song sh1te at the best of times, but when you're surrounded by a couple of hundred people shouting "Up the 'RA" every few seconds it adds a whole new dimension to it. I couldn't wait to get out of the place, the music was bad enough but the atmosphere was bloody intimidating.

Have we been drinking in the same pub? I just ignore them and go back to my drink personally. From what I hear the songs dont really reflect the current situation - they just perpetuate the old one. I view them as a nice piece of history; in that way they're somewhat enjoyable. Granted hearing suspect people shouting up the RA can get old.

Baudelaire

stepbar wrote: »

Of course its a retarded opinion.

I'll assume you're talking about your opinion here.

stepbar wrote: »

FFS you've just said that Christy Moore's life work boils down to a few well worn limericks :rolleyes:. Have you ever actually read one of his song and understood the reasoning behind it? I doubt you would know where Christy Moore gets his inspiration from.

LOL Christy Moore was never inspired, Freddy Mercury was inspired, Phil Lynott was inspired, Christy Moore is a cheap second fiddle to real musicians that don't have to rely on crappy rhymes to inspire their audience which is why they had worldwide fame and he'll never be anything but a paragraph in "The big Irish book of famous(but only in Ireland and a few pubs in Boston) Irish Singers".

stepbar wrote: »

It's far from "semi - intelligible drivel". Now if you had to say something like "I don't like the way he sings" yada yada yada, I might have let it pass. But no, you tried to say something smart which wasn't very smart at all and pretty much stereotype every other Irish song along with it.

Mainly because every other Irish ballad follows the same suit, it's not music it's not even an talent, all they do is pander to the crap most "rebels" want to hear. They could sing anything(even what I wrote) and "The Rebels' would all be there baying like donkeys and stamping their feet like something out of Deliverance :rolleyes:

stepbar wrote: »

As for the Wolfe Tones, they have a mix of terrible songs and some that are very intelligently written. Nothing wrong with that.

About as intelligent as Britany Spears on acid but at least she's something to look at.

stepbar

I'll assume you're talking about your opinion here.

Of course :rolleyes:

LOL Christy Moore was never inspired, Freddy Mercury was inspired, Phil Lynott was inspired, Christy Moore is a cheap second fiddle to real musicians that don't have to rely on crappy rhymes to inspire their audience which is why they had worldwide fame and he'll never be anything but a paragraph in "The big Irish book of famous(but only in Ireland and a few pubs in Boston) Irish Singers".

I have to laugh. And what have you wrote? Post up few examples there son.

Mainly because every other Irish ballad follows the same suit, it's not music it's not even an talent, all they do is pander to the crap most "rebels" want to hear. They could sing anything(even what I wrote) and "The Rebels' would all be there baying like donkeys and stamping their feet like something out of Deliverance :rolleyes:

Of course it does :rolleyes:



If you knew what you were talking about, you'd be dangerous

WhiteWashMan

a thread about the merits of their music?

to the music forum

from AH

rubadub

I like the Tones, I prefer their non-rebel songs, some are quite funny, quare things in dublin, paddle me own canoe, twice daily, travelling doctors shop, warder in the joy is funny too.

But at any gigs there is always just a bunch of celtic jerseys getting locked and screaming for the only song they know, well none of them actually even know the name, Celtic Symphony (ohh ahh up the ra). The funniest is when it gets rowdy and they start saying "ah now, calm down boys & girtels, calm down"

Baudelaire

stepbar wrote: »

Of course :rolleyes:



I have to laugh. And what have you wrote? Post up few examples there son.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irp8CNj9qBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpys1c3jCNs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TehFZ38kt6o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unnh0T2Ftro

There is that enough? and by the way where's this "son" sh*t coming from? did I say I was male?

stepbar wrote: »

Of course it does :rolleyes:

You sooooo got me with that responce, that was just a cutting remark and just proves how much a better debater you are than me, I bow down to your obvious superiority since your use of the roll eyes smilie is just sooooo effective, next you'll use the wink smilie and I may just have to cry.

stepbar wrote: »

If you knew what you were talking about, you'd be dangerous

If you could understand what I was talking about you'd have an IQ in double digits.

stepbar

Wow, you wrote all those songs. That's cool........ *turn on sarcasm detector*

Your opinion on Irish music probably extends to how sh1te this country is too.... How in ever, we'll leave that argument for another day.....



Ok, let me lay it on the line for you. Show me what you have wrote or stop whining about Irish music. Because that's all it's.... whining.... "I had to listen to it when I was young"... Give me a break :rolleyes:

Maybe I wrong to think you were a man.... whining and all that.....

Plug

Volvoboy wrote: »

Whats your opinion on the Wolfetones?

I've been a fan for a few years now and i dont consider myself a scumbag or a IRA activist, I enjoy there songs and stories. One of my favorites being The Merman. As much as i like the ballads.


What are your views of The Wolfetones?



-VB-

I love them, not a thing wrong with them at all. The only people who hate them are prodys and emo's.

catch--22

stepbar wrote: »

Ok, let me lay it on the line for you. Show me what you have wrote or stop whining about Irish music.

Just saying you can't do anything better so it must be good is not a very strong argument.

I can't string a lyric together, sing a note in key or play any instrument in any great capacity. That does not, however, forgo my right to criticise other people’s music depending on my taste. And it should prevent anyone else either including the person above.

plug wrote: »

The only people who hate them are prodys and emo's.

Another wonderfully made point :rolleyes:

big_show

anyone for foster and allen?

Baudelaire

stepbar wrote: »

Wow, you wrote all those songs. That's cool........ *turn on sarcasm detector*

Your opinion on Irish music probably extends to how sh1te this country is too.... How in ever, we'll leave that argument for another day.....



Ok, let me lay it on the line for you. Show me what you have wrote or stop whining about Irish music. Because that's all it's.... whining.... "I had to listen to it when I was young"... Give me a break :rolleyes:

Maybe I wrong to think you were a man.... whining and all that.....

Oh I miss read your last post about writing music (I was so overwhelmed with all the smilies that it was hard to see anything else), what has writing got to do with it? I've never wrote a book either but I still think "Catcher in the Rye" was crap and anyway by my definition of what's classed as good music all the stuff they write is sh!t. The only one whining here is you, look how bitchy you got, you sound like your head is about to explode just because someone isn't of the same backwards thinking view that Ronny Drew a singer when the truth is that all he does is shout crap lyrics into the microphone but most people that listen to him are to drunk to notice and do you know why? because you need to be pi$$ed to be able to endure it.

lordgoat

Musically i couldn't give a **** about them, someone els pointed out they are no longer a true reflection of what they are singing about and perpetuate a time in Irish history that i feel we should be moving from.

I'm sick of hearing that IRA chant and every other ****ign song about how badly we were persecuted (yes every one of those 800 years). I know my history and they were dark and sad days and yes they should not be forgotten. But clinging to them today in my opinon can't allow progress and breeds hate and contempt for a time that has long passed.