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"Carefree Ad"...for men?

  • 28-01-2008 9:14pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Fairy Wings


    Hello Ladies!
    This is mt first time posting a thread on Boards.ie and I have been motivated to do so by ad I saw recently on tv. Many of you may have recently seen the new Carefree ad on a number of channels at the mo and if you havnt well you certainly won't miss it. The ad basically involves a young girl in her 20's prancing around in very skimpy underwear. Now don't get me wrong there are many ads out there involving women wearing very little but this particular ad has annoyed me for the following reasons:
    Any advertisements for pantyliners or another female hygeine products are directly aimed at women. And so they should be aimed at women and women only. There is no reason that an ad for such things should ever try to lure mens attention is there? I mean if a man suddenly notices an ad for tampons he isnt gona run out and buy them for his wife and teenage daughter and nor do we want him to! An an for pantyliners or tampons is actually the one ad that a teenage daughter dreads coming on the tv while she is watching the tv with her dad. I certainly remember the awkwardness I felt whenever one of those ads came on with my dad in the room and just cringing ang hoping he isn't paying attention.

    Well this ad seems to be making a very deliberate attempt to draws mens attention to it and titilate our boyfriends and husbands. The girl in the add is wearing a thong at one stage and the camera zooms so far in that her ass takes up the entire tv screen. Now this girl has a very nice ass I cant take away from that but don't we ladies have enough of this already. Almost every other ad or programme or music video out there uses sex and a scantily clad women to get our attention but isn't "Carefree" supposed to be on our side? Isn't it an ad aimed at women and for women so why does it feel it needs to shove a girls bum in our face to sell their pantyliners. The media already does enough to make women feel self conscience and inadequate so why pantyliners want to do the same?

    My boyfriend was watching this ad with me and he actually asked me before I had said a word on the subject, "do you think thats a bit much for an ad for pantyliners". This is clear proof, that my boyfriend noticed an ad for pantyliners and when has a man ever done that?

    Well I just had to get that off my chest and I'd love to know what other women out there think.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭*adele*


    Yeah,tbh i think that ad's a bit retarded. It doesnt make any sense at all,like heres this barely dressed girl prancing around and its supposed to make us buy the product?? How is that advertising to women?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭The Recliner


    It is a bit like the Lacoste ad for aftershave with the naked bloke on it although it makes a bit more sense in that context as more women would buy aftershave for men than men buying pantyliners for woman. Not quite as romantic :)

    I don't want the carefree ad taken off the tv though, it brightens up my day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,613 ✭✭✭✭Clare Bear


    Yeah why don't they have an ad where a girl is bowled over in pain with stomach cramps? Far more realistic.

    Always thought ads like that were stupid....obviously lots of men working in the advertising department :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Calliope High Album


    Obviously wearing them makes you feel happy carefree and sexy enough to prance around

    or something

    don't women's magazines have women on the front cover anyway?


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 13,425 ✭✭✭✭Ginny


    Clare Bear wrote: »
    Yeah why don't they have an ad where a girl is bowled over in pain with stomach cramps? Far more realistic.

    Always thought ads like that were stupid....obviously lots of men working in the advertising department :rolleyes:
    Although the carefree ad is only for pantyliners.

    Yeah I noticed it before and to be honest I think its a little much to be on early in the day..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Fairy Wings


    In response to "The Recliner". I think most women would agree that the Lacoste ad was a first and a well deserved and overdue treat for the female viewer. But I do not think it is the same really because there is nothing and I mean nothing sexy about pantyliners but I think both men and women can relate to an ad for aftershave. Women want to buy it for their man and men will feel attractive wearing it because a good looking man has been used to sell it. If they went and used Madonna to advertise tampons I would still never feel sexy wearing them! :p
    I think the ad should be taken off the tv, if anything just for the sake of the poor nervous dad subjected to watching it with his teenage daughter! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭*adele*


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Obviously wearing them makes you feel happy carefree and sexy enough to prance around

    or something

    don't women's magazines have women on the front cover anyway?
    When really no matter how fabulous their product is your be sulking under a black cloud for about a week....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭The Recliner


    In response to "The Recliner". I think most women would agree that the Lacoste ad was a first and a well deserved and overdue treat for the female viewer. But I do not think it is the same really because there is nothing and I mean nothing sexy about pantyliners but I think both men and women can relate to an ad for aftershave. Women want to buy it for their man and men will feel attractive wearing it because a good looking man has been used to sell it. If they went and used Madonna to advertise tampons I would still never feel sexy wearing them! :p
    I think the ad should be taken off the tv, if anything just for the sake of the poor nervous dad subjected to watching it with his teenage daughter! :eek:


    I wasn't trying to equate the two dear god there is no comparison to the two products

    But it was the first example I could come up with of a similar type of marketing aimed at the opposite sex that would be using the product

    I am guessing the lady in the ad is supposed to be carefree, still it makes a change from bungie jumping and roller blading ladies being used to advertise them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭old boy


    yeah but if you use tampax cant you play soccer for brazil


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Fairy Wings


    I wasn't trying to equate the two dear god there is no comparison to the two products

    But it was the first example I could come up with of a similar type of marketing aimed at the opposite sex that would be using the product

    I am guessing the lady in the ad is supposed to be carefree, still it makes a change from bungie jumping and roller blading ladies being used to advertise them

    yeah I do get the concept of the ad but I just think they came at it from the wrong angle. Could the girl not be "Carefree" while wearing jeans? Even when the girl is wearing a skirt in the ad, we are given a deliberate glimpse of her ass as she dances around. whats that all about? A bit too provocative for an add for pantyliners.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    If you don't like it then make a complaint to the advertising standards comission.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    If you don't like it then make a complaint to the advertising standards comission.
    What if she doesn't want to?


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Calliope High Album


    Pighead wrote: »
    What if she doesn't want to?

    then she wont?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭The Recliner


    yeah I do get the concept of the ad but I just think they came at it from the wrong angle. Could the girl not be "Carefree" while wearing jeans? Even when the girl is wearing a skirt in the ad, we are given a deliberate glimpse of her ass as she dances around. whats that all about? A bit too provocative for an add for pantyliners.

    If nothing else the ad has gotten people's attention which is sort of its purpose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    bluewolf wrote: »
    then she wont?
    Exactly. High five bluewolf, between us we've crushed Theadydydldydl and her domineering ways. And its all thanks to Carefree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭*adele*


    Bahahaha booo carefree!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭Jackz


    The add worked on me, got a large pack, best yokes I ever had for blowin my nose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭echosound


    Jackz wrote: »
    The add worked on me, got a large pack, best yokes I ever had for blowin my nose.

    Just make sure to use the right side, otherwise you'll look pretty stupid with a pantyliner stuck to your upper lip when you go out in public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    Am I missing something, or is the point of showing the model with the different types of underwear (and the visible ass) not to prove the whole advertisement's point - that the product is multi-purpose where underwear is concerned (it's the liner with the fold back wings that convert it for the underwear type you're using) and discreet? I thought it was quite clever really, to show a woman going through daily life bit by bit, and showing how the pantyliner is better than others because it can be worn during exercise, during the day and at night, regardless of how you dress. Sort of a "Whatever you wear, wear carefree, and you really will be care free" type lark. Yes, the woman happens to be a model, but to be honest, most if not all people on ads are. Why take offence at this one, which has been on tv for ages?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    I think everyone is missing the point of advertising in general here. This ad has clearly done its job because:

    a) You are all talking about it

    and

    b) You all know what the ad is for

    Ads don't have to make sense, they just have to get people to remember the product and talk about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,491 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    I have not seen the ad but adverts are what Lady J has said, it just to get people to talk about them and remember the ad..

    Its like Aero's why do they need a man in a towel to sell chocolate? To have people talk about the ad and to remember it.

    ******



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    Its like Aero's why do they need a man in a towel to sell chocolate? To have people talk about the ad and to remember it.

    You leave my future husband alone! He reinvented the whole idea of eating an aero!

    3847487390a6735722196l.jpg

    I love him....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Eww. old Bung eye ^^

    All ads (or at least most) aimed at women have hot women in them. It's to make us think that if we buy the product we may look like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Endasaurus


    This thread opened my eyes, I had no idea that woman was scantily dressed for the benefit of us men :confused:

    I thought the ad was horrifying, it shows a woman who is bleeding out of her you know what prancing around like a lunatic laughing her insane little head off like some demented reject off Barney.... and all the while bleeding!!!! :eek:

    It's funny cos it seems to be giving most other male posters the horn whereas the girlfriend used to laugh at my cringing the entire way through this ad, I found it very unsettling and not in the least bit attractive..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Pantyliners aren't for periods. It's to keep the fresh knicker feeling...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,367 ✭✭✭✭watna


    WindSock wrote: »
    Pantyliners aren't for periods. It's to keep the fresh knicker feeling...

    Exactly. Kind of like weird disposable underwear!

    Ads are stupid in general. I just tend not to watch them. The only ad worth anything on tv at the moment is the Carlsberg on where they talk nonsense phrases in Irish. Cracks me up everytime!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    i can't help but wonder what estoban would say...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Women want to buy it for their man and men will feel attractive wearing it because a good looking man has been used to sell it.

    Though the reality is that probably a large number of males think along the lines of "oh, god she bought me the aftershave with that gay bloke on the ad, is she trying to get the lads after me?!" while the rest of us don't even remember the ad for the simple fact that the straight male mind is far less likely to remember the appearance of another male than they are a female, and vice versa for straight women.
    As such most ads with an "attractive" male, the male is there for the females, and of no interest what-so-ever for the males (they could have a plain and ordinary bloke and we'd still remember as little about the advertisement).

    Can't say the carefree ad has any impact on me, vaguely remember it, but I find it hilarious the amount of fuss there tends to be over the various ads with women intended to look alluring/attractive when compared to ads with males in similar roles/situations.
    Ever since the diet coke ads there have been an increasing number of adverts with muscled men posing, clearly for the female viewers, and some even casting the males as servants to women in the ads.

    Surely with an increasing number of ads and poster campaigns featuring men naked from the waste up, should women not be featured in similar attire (or lack there-of), in the spirit of equality and such?:D (I am kidding, attempting to make a point in a rather extreme fashion before anyone gets upset)

    Thaedydal wrote: »
    If you don't like it then make a complaint to the advertising standards comission.
    Damn them, so many hilarious ads were pulled because some uptight twit took offense. E.g. the doggy breath wrigleys one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    My favourite add to be honest. At least it gives me something to look at while a product that has nothing to do with me is advertised to it's intended market.
    I say: Bravo to the considerate ad type people!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,491 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    LadyJ wrote: »
    You leave my future husband alone! He reinvented the whole idea of eating an aero!

    3847487390a6735722196l.jpg

    I love him....


    Sorry Lady J

    ******



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    Sorry Lady J

    It's Jason Lewis you should be apologising to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    All advertising aimed at women pisses me of.
    Im sorry but when you have your period you want to wear big pants and hide it from the world not flaunting about in a little thong. No women looks that good or that happy galivanting in a little skirt when theyve got their period.
    Bodyform or whatever this ad is advertising isnt most certainly not the worst ad aimed at women on at the mo. The new nivea ones wreck my head. 'Beauty is a mood', 'beauty is a stolen momenet' well If it bloody is then why dont you f*ck of nivea and stop trying to ponce your stupid products on me. In the ads they have women with flawless tanned skin,spakling teeth, gorgeous looking so obviously beauty isnt just a mood.
    These sort of ads are the most dangerous for women as there telling us that beauty is in the inside,yet their trying to sell us firming,anti angeing creams.lip glosses to make us look better on the outside. It completly doesnt make sense.If beauty is on the inside then surely Nivea and all the other makeup comapnys can pack up and go home.
    Im sick of shaving my legs,armpits,tweezing my eyebrows etc etc just cos society dictates it for us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Huggy Bare


    Hello Ladies!
    This is mt first time posting a thread on Boards.ie and I have been motivated to do so by ad I saw recently on tv. Many of you may have recently seen the new Carefree ad on a number of channels at the mo and if you havnt well you certainly won't miss it. The ad basically involves a young girl in her 20's prancing around in very skimpy underwear. Now don't get me wrong there are many ads out there involving women wearing very little but this particular ad has annoyed me for the following reasons:
    Any advertisements for pantyliners or another female hygeine products are directly aimed at women. And so they should be aimed at women and women only. There is no reason that an ad for such things should ever try to lure mens attention is there? I mean if a man suddenly notices an ad for tampons he isnt gona run out and buy them for his wife and teenage daughter and nor do we want him to! An an for pantyliners or tampons is actually the one ad that a teenage daughter dreads coming on the tv while she is watching the tv with her dad. I certainly remember the awkwardness I felt whenever one of those ads came on with my dad in the room and just cringing ang hoping he isn't paying attention.

    Well this ad seems to be making a very deliberate attempt to draws mens attention to it and titilate our boyfriends and husbands. The girl in the add is wearing a thong at one stage and the camera zooms so far in that her ass takes up the entire tv screen. Now this girl has a very nice ass I cant take away from that but don't we ladies have enough of this already. Almost every other ad or programme or music video out there uses sex and a scantily clad women to get our attention but isn't "Carefree" supposed to be on our side? Isn't it an ad aimed at women and for women so why does it feel it needs to shove a girls bum in our face to sell their pantyliners. The media already does enough to make women feel self conscience and inadequate so why pantyliners want to do the same?

    My boyfriend was watching this ad with me and he actually asked me before I had said a word on the subject, "do you think thats a bit much for an ad for pantyliners". This is clear proof, that my boyfriend noticed an ad for pantyliners and when has a man ever done that?

    Well I just had to get that off my chest and I'd love to know what other women out there think.

    Welcome to the forum, i've just joined also!

    This might be of some help to answer your question!

    Q: How do men know when a woman's on her period?

    A: When she's off Rollerblading, Playing Volleyball, Wearing an extremely white pair of shorts or trousers and sky-diving..! I could go on but this is a short joke.

    Of course men are aware of Tampon and Pantyliner adverts, you cant miss them - they're funny as funk most of the time - women are usually so active and happy unlike the reality - mood swings etc..... we still love ya's though!

    Ask any man if he's ever been in a room with his family - Mum, Sisters and Aunties and Cousins and a advert of the above nature pops up and he'll not funking forget about that in a hurry - scarred for life!

    Men pay more attention to what happens with women than women care to believe. Personally, i've bought Tampons for my ex - pretty embarassing at first but then i just said funk it - she needs them and atleast she's not pregnant so having the dilemma of being embarassed buying the little buggers far out-weighed the fact that she didnt need them for the next 9/10 mths or so!

    That chick in that advert has a great hoop on her alright - i'd buy her Pantyliners any day of the week aslong as she bought the condoms :D;):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Jules


    panda100 wrote: »
    All advertising aimed at women pisses me of.
    Im sorry but when you have your period you want to wear big pants and hide it from the world not flaunting about in a little thong. No women looks that good or that happy galivanting in a little skirt when theyve got their period.
    Bodyform or whatever this ad is advertising isnt most certainly not the worst ad aimed at women on at the mo. The new nivea ones wreck my head. 'Beauty is a mood', 'beauty is a stolen momenet' well If it bloody is then why dont you f*ck of nivea and stop trying to ponce your stupid products on me. In the ads they have women with flawless tanned skin,spakling teeth, gorgeous looking so obviously beauty isnt just a mood.
    These sort of ads are the most dangerous for women as there telling us that beauty is in the inside,yet their trying to sell us firming,anti angeing creams.lip glosses to make us look better on the outside. It completly doesnt make sense.If beauty is on the inside then surely Nivea and all the other makeup comapnys can pack up and go home.
    Im sick of shaving my legs,armpits,tweezing my eyebrows etc etc just cos society dictates it for us

    WOOOOOOOOO <3 Panda!

    My favourite ad from years ago was the tampax ad with the dr alban song... its my life. Yes we all want to go rollar blading when we have our periods.. bullshti we all want to inhale a box of painkillers and sit on the couch with a duvet and watch tv!

    FUCK OFF STUPID ADVERTISMENTS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Huggy Bare


    I see this is a touchy subject for alot of girls, I can only imagine discomfort the time of the month brings and the last thing you wanna see on the telly is some chick having a great time when the reality is very different!

    Have you noticed that most of the ads dont feature men in them - probably cause most of them are in the pub working on the Dutch Courage to face the frying pan later on that nite!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    bluewolf wrote: »
    don't women's magazines have women on the front cover anyway?
    Yep, according to research: want to sell a men's magazine? Put a beautiful woman on the front. Want to sell a women's magazine? Put a beautiful woman on the front.
    Women love looking at women - and it's not even sexual. My mate and I were just talking about this ad tonight (haven't seen it myself). My mate is absolutely mesmerised by it and thinks it's the best ass she's ever seen. She's not into girls at all. I think it's simply because she aspires to have a bum like the girl in the ad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,092 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    What's with that blue liquid they pour on to show how absorbent they are though? If I wanted blue wings ...... :p

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    Panda - if you don't want to do those things, then don't! Seriously! It's your body, it's entirely your prerogative.

    Personally, I'm pretty lucky, have a bit of cramping day one, nothing a few neurofen plus won't kill, and then I'm grand, so it never stops me from doing whatever. Those ads would be my life, if I was hot, so once again, I have no problem with them and actually think they're pretty clever. I feel that people who have time to stress over them either have too much time on their hands or are on an unnecessarily feminist rampage for some unbknown reason - just my opinion though. Plus, there's always the remote. It might happen that the same ad is on another channel as you flick over, but it's unlikely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Dudess wrote: »
    Yep, according to research: want to sell a men's magazine? Put a beautiful woman on the front. Want to sell a women's magazine? Put a beautiful woman on the front.
    Women love looking at women - and it's not even sexual. My mate and I were just talking about this ad tonight (haven't seen it myself). My mate is absolutely mesmerised by it and thinks it's the best ass she's ever seen. She's not into girls at all. I think it's simply because she aspires to have a bum like the girl in the ad.

    Yup, *generalisation incoming* supposedly men can't tell if another man is attractive whereas women can tell if another woman is attractive as, historically, attractiveness is what women had to use to compete for mates, whereas for males it was in strength/fighting ability (trying to be the alphamale).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    panda100 wrote: »
    Im sick of shaving my legs,armpits,tweezing my eyebrows etc etc just cos society dictates it for us
    That doesn't make sense. Why are you doing all that stuff so? You could stop right at this second if you really wanted to, but do you actually want to? You can say society forces you all you want, but the reality is it's unattractive for a woman to be hairy - a socially constructed notion no doubt about it, but nevertheless it IS a reality. And can you honestly say you'd feel comfortable if you stopped doing it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    farohar wrote: »
    Yup, *generalisation incoming* supposedly men can't tell if another man is attractive whereas women can tell if another woman is attractive as, historically, attractiveness is what women had to use to compete for mates, whereas for males it was in strength/fighting ability (trying to be the alphamale).


    Thats what I thought, but my ex used to take note if I were talking to a handsome man, whereas if it were a not so handsome man I was talking to, he wouldn't say anything :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Adverts for tights and underwear always seem like they are aimed at men and not women but thats understandable because they are garments that we buy to feel sexy etc. But panty liners have no connection with sex appeal at all, so I don't see the point in the advert at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    WindSock wrote: »
    Thats what I thought, but my ex used to take note if I were talking to a handsome man, whereas if it were a not so handsome man I was talking to, he wouldn't say anything :)

    Maybe you're right it is quite concievable that although we don't admit to knowing another guy is attractive the knowledge is there in our subconscious, also possible that something in your behaviour was tipping him off too though, or even that from prior events he'd learned what you found attractive in a guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    farohar wrote: »
    Maybe you're right it is quite concievable that although we don't admit to knowing another guy is attractive the knowledge is there in our subconscious, also possible that something in your behaviour was tipping him off too though, or even that from prior events he'd learned what you found attractive in a guy.


    Or maybe he was just a paranoid doped psychotic schizo who accused me of having an affair with a lampost.
    To come to think of it, he was like that with anyone else I talked to. Even girls :eek:

    ahem, that aside...it would be interesting to see who males idols are, or ones they would go gay for. My guess is that they are handsome men as role models.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭SheRa


    Mmmm, the last thing I want to do when having my period is prance around in sexy underwear which shows my bottom, so I can understand the p1ssedoffness of the ladies.

    However the lady in the ad has a seriously lovely arse it has to be said;).


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Calliope High Album


    panda100 wrote:
    Im sick of shaving my legs,armpits,tweezing my eyebrows etc etc just cos society dictates it for us

    Then don't do it? Is someone holding a gun to your head?
    Geez, catch me dead before you'd find me with a tweezers near my eyebrows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    WindSock wrote: »
    ahem, that aside...it would be interesting to see who males idols are, or ones they would go gay for. My guess is that they are handsome men as role models.

    Well guys I'd idolise:
    David Hahn & Sam Barros so guess it's all about the intellect, or at least the scientific achievement (mucking about with radiation with little protection wouldn't be most peoples' idea of "intelligent") for me.:)

    As for ones I'd "go gay" for, can't say that I've ever seen a guy and thought about it.


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