need help choosing a sniper

lil dave

m324 and mauri vsr10 are they any good ???? were can i get them ???? and would u recomend any toher snipers plz ?????????/

Witcher

are you sure you put enough question marks in your post




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Gatling

M324 is way over the 1joule legal limit,the vsr is one of the most used sniper rifles here ,at the end of the day a sniper rifle is only as good as the person using it

Puding

When anyone asks about a 'sniper rife ' i always like to ask what do you really want to do in airsoft as a large number of aegs will offer you the same range and accuracy.

o1s1n

Gatling wrote: »

M324 is way over the 1joule legal limit

No it's not. You can get upgraded versions but the bog standard one isn't. Mine chronoed in at 328fps on the dot.

Thought it was the business when I first got it. Now? Meh. Wouldn't bother with it at all.

The vsr-10 seems to be the way to go. Although personally I'm not too fond of it. The bolt pull back is way too light. As is the rifle itself.

o1s1n

blay1 wrote: »

are you sure you put enough question marks in your post




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Seriously if you have a problem with a post press the report post button. Comments like that do nothing but cause hassle.

Witcher

o1s1n wrote: »

Seriously if you have a problem with a post press the report post button. Comments like that do nothing but cause hassle.

my bad oisin, was only a joke



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penguin-o7

blay1 wrote: »

my bad oisin, was only a joke



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o1s1n wrote: »

Seriously if you have a problem with a post press the report post button. Comments like that do nothing but cause hassle.

People this s a thread about snipers
Wheres Liamo when you need him

lil dave wrote: »

m324 and mauri vsr10 are they any good ???? were can i get them ???? and would u recomend any toher snipers plz ?????????/

AS it was already said snipers is the best choice but then again we do need a sniper
but still try some thing automatic as well.M14 seems like a good option

o1s1n

blay1 wrote: »

my bad oisin, was only a joke



:cool::cool::cool:

We can make fun of the regulars, but not the new users. If we do, they run away

[--SC(+)PE--]

TM m14, its the undisputed king in the range department.

o1s1n

[--SC(+)PE--] wrote: »

TM m14, its the undisputed king in the range department.

I still can't believe you don't own one yet

[--SC(+)PE--]

lol i know. The damn thing is just so long and awkard, and ya know me ill be carrying a metal shotty and 1 or 2 pistols aswell

o1s1n

You're not still doing that whole walking armory thing are you? Give it up already, it just won't work!

[--SC(+)PE--]

Its not quite a walking armoury loadout:D ,got my scabbard sorted 4 the shotty, so it works a treat. an 1100mm m14 just wouldn't help though.

seamus-2k7

Does an m14 have equal sniping abilities with other snipers?

o1s1n

seamus-2k7 wrote: »

Does an m14 have equal sniping abilities with other snipers?

Due to everything being limited to 1 joule, snipers don't really have any advantage over a standard 1 joule AEG.

Being a sniper is more to do with how you play the game really.

seamus-2k7

But aren't snipers suposed to have better range and accuracy due to iner workings etc.?

Witcher

seamus-2k7 wrote: »

But aren't snipers suposed to have better range and accuracy due to iner workings etc.?

i dont think it really applies to airsoft.




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Cheeky monkey

The perhaps only advantage a sniper rifle has here over an aeg is the noise being produced when you take the shot and thats what you should be looking for when your purchasing one

o1s1n

Airsoft sniper rifles power the bb in a similar enough way to an AEG. The difference is that with an AEG, a battery and gears pull the piston back. With a sniper rifle, you do this manually with a bolt.

You can be just as accurate with a long barreled AEG. Such as the m14.

As the output can only be 1 joule max, distance is similar between all rifles too. The hop up can make a bit of a difference. But again, that has nothing to do with what rifle you're using. You can have a good hop up on anything.

seamus-2k7

Well I was considering seeing the sniping side of airsoft, I don't no wether to get m14 or bolt action.

NakedDex

The only advantage is, that I've seen (I stand to be corrected here), sniper rifles are generally a lot longer than your standard armalite, ak etc. The longer the barrel the greater the accuracy.
A "proper" sniper rifle would usually be a bolt action (spring or gas, with gas being redundant here), which is a lot quieter when firing than an aeg.
Spring ones also don't need any gas or batteries so they'll shoot until you're out of ammo.
Most electric sniper rifles are actually marksman rifles. M14 being a good example. The advantage these offer is a quicker rate of fire. Useful if you want to get closer to the action as a bolt action will be nigh on useless if you engage as part of a team and need to get shots downrange quickly for cover or to hit mulitiple targets.

seamus-2k7

Tanks, I'll go with price then.

o1s1n

seamus-2k7 wrote: »

Well I was considering seeing the sniping side of airsoft, I don't no wether to get m14 or bolt action.

Sniping is one of those things where the reality is nothing like how you imagined it to be your head. For example, how are you for lying in patches of cold and wet for prolonged periods of time? Maybe never getting to take a shot at all.

It's definitely not for everyone. I'd really recommend going to a site and playing a game before you start choosing roles.

Cheeky monkey

o1s1n wrote: »

lying in patches of cold and wet for prolonged periods of time?

Hehe my favourite part of sniping :p

penguin-o7

seamus-2k7 wrote: »

Well I was considering seeing the sniping side of airsoft, I don't no wether to get m14 or bolt action.

if your so dead set on a sniper at least go with the M14 at least your have the automatic option which is faster(ROF) than your M4's

thats what i did and tbh are team dosent really need any more snipers we have one lined up already

Alvin T. Grey

Cheeky monkey wrote: »

Hehe my favourite part of sniping :p

We need to have a talk son. I'm beginning to get worried about you.

Alvin T. Grey

seamus-2k7 wrote: »

Tanks, I'll go with price then.

Stick with the M-14, or maybe a G-36K if you must, that way if you don't like sniping (few do) you haven't wasted a wedge of wonga because you can still use them for assault.

NakedDex

The G36k is about the same size as an M4. If you want something closer to an M14 then you're looking at the G36. Longer barrel, more accuracy being the only difference

lil dave

lookin like the vsr is the way to go then, m14 seems to be good too. il hav to think about it and sell my m4 first to lol. well thanks a mill keep the sugestions coming plz ! :P and any particular shops or sites that are better cheaper etc ?

cherubaul

no need to sell your M4 if you are going to get a designated marksmans rifle like the M14, You can always buy an SPR front end and barrel set of gunner or RSOv and convert your M4 into an DMR like teh special purpose rifle.
it also gives you the option of reverting back to the standard M4 as well basically giving you 2 guns off the one mech box.

NakedDex

Disadvantage and advantages of doing that are:

Pro,
It's initially quite cheap
You can go back if you want.
STANAG compatibility.

Con,
The SPR front is metal, it'll be a heck of a stress weight if your reciever is plastic
It won't look quite right as the SPR is a 7.62 in RS where the M4 is 5.56. Bigger reciever, bigger mags etc.
It won't act the same either, the SPR is a semi only. There'll always be that temptation to go to full auto. I have the G&G SPR and I can tell you, I miss auto sometimes.
The big thing is the piston stroke. Unless you have a modded piston or a very high speed motor with a big battery, semi only won't work right. Especially on a V2 gearbox. Constant single shot trigger pulls leave the gearbox open to sticking. Happened me a few times. A short stroke piston helps this but I think it also reduces power.

Masada

NakedDex wrote: »

Disadvantage and advantages of doing that are:

Pro,
It's initially quite cheap
You can go back if you want.
STANAG compatibility.

Con,
The SPR front is metal, it'll be a heck of a stress weight if your reciever is plastic
It won't look quite right as the SPR is a 7.62 in RS where the M4 is 5.56. Bigger reciever, bigger mags etc.
It won't act the same either, the SPR is a semi only. There'll always be that temptation to go to full auto. I have the G&G SPR and I can tell you, I miss auto sometimes.
The big thing is the piston stroke. Unless you have a modded piston or a very high speed motor with a big battery, semi only won't work right. Especially on a V2 gearbox. Constant single shot trigger pulls leave the gearbox open to sticking. Happened me a few times. A short stroke piston helps this but I think it also reduces power.

plus you can hear the gears turning before the shot,
this is why im upgrading to run on a 10.8, I want it to cycle as quickly as possible and using it in semi means that there shouldnt be any issues with heat from the motor etc with the increased voltage..,
If your serious about being a sniper then youd be better with an actuall sniper rifle instead of converting an M4. id say play a fwe games first and get a feel for the snipers role before making a dicision though, a snipers job can be really boring at times.,

NakedDex

Yeah as quick as the cycle is in my SPR, it's not as quick as my trigger pull. I'm getting a lot of half cycles. Might go up to 9.6v. It's only a V2 but it does have metal gears so it'll hold it. I wonder would it take a 10.8v? I might be pushing too hard there.

Masada

if you do the shims and bushes first then it should be fine, you dont want the gears being able to push away from eachother or they will jump teeth under that load and chew the rest of the teeth up. you have to maximise the contact ares of the gears by shiming it.,:)

NakedDex

Oh God that means opening the mechbox. I bloody hate that. And I still haven't figured out how to release the bloody thing from the body in the SPR yet.




Edit: AND I'D HAVE TO ORDER SHIMS! Ffs, I'm to impatient for that.

Masada

lol, even without the upgraded battery the ROF will go up from shims and bushings so it would be worth while. I havent striped an SPR but i thought it would come apart much the same as an M4?

NakedDex

I've never stripped an M4 either but I'd assume so. I'll have to look into it, it needs to be done if I'm going to keep it. It's perfectly useable as it is, but it's just not as snappy as I need it if I'm gonna be using it semi only.


Edit: Recommend me a bushing type by the way. She's rocking brass ones now

Masada

M4 is easy, i can remove the gearbox in mine in about 2mins, the CA sportline is cool too, instead of having bolts in the reciever they have pins that you just push out and the reciever comes in two, then theres the mag release, pin above the trigger and the 2 screws in the handle and your in.,

EDIT, i ised the steal bearing ones from ehobby, cant remember what their called but there pretty good with the standard 8.4 there was a noticable difference. theres no play in the bearing either as i had expected some cheapy chinese quality engineering on them but their fine.,

Tigger

Puding wrote: »

When anyone asks about a 'sniper rife ' i always like to ask what do you really want to do in airsoft as a large number of aegs will offer you the same range and accuracy.

me also
without a more powerfull sniper rifle you may as well use an aeg

Alvin T. Grey

NakedDex wrote: »

The G36k is about the same size as an M4. If you want something closer to an M14 then you're looking at the G36. Longer barrel, more accuracy being the only difference

Nah, stick with the C or K versions. The accuracy in airsoft isn't that much more when offset against it's usability in a skirmish. It's pittyfull watching someone trying to get through a door with that monster.

Masada

yeah id go with the C, with the K scope., ive head its crap but i still want one.,lol

Alvin T. Grey

vtec wrote: »

yeah id go with the C, with the K scope., ive head its crap but i still want one.,lol

Ha.
Ha.
Ha.

Puding

All the g36 optics are bad there is no getting away from it, the eye relif is bad, there hard to use with most forms of eye protect and are of limited use, it will always be more practical to to buy the flat railed version and mount something on that.

Masada

Puding wrote: »

All the g36 optics are bad there is no getting away from it, the eye relif is bad, there hard to use with most forms of eye protect and are of limited use, it will always be more practical to to buy the flat railed version and mount something on that.

Having use alvins one i think its fine but another member told me it was a pain to adjust correctly. I like the look of it on the G36c and i find it very easy to sight with., still think ill get one.,lol

Puding

Well there usable, i have 2 myself 1 by classic army and one made by star, but there dark, have small field of vision, have poor eye releaf and both are hard to zero in, for practicality and ease of use i would always go with the rail and scope/acog/elcan option, but airsoft is not alwasy about practicaly i got the star g36 for the twin optics just beacuse i love the look of the thing

NakedDex

My CA G36k has cracking optics on it. I'm rather fond of it. The Star optics are pants though. Eye relief and angle of attack is pretty poor and the lens seems very dark. I do want to swap the optic/handle out for a rail but that's for a whole other thing that I want to do to it. A decent c type rail is a pain to come by. They're almost always plastic and of questionable quality.

My old flatmate had the full size G36 and it isn't that hard to enter a room with if you fold the stock. I did find a marked improvement in the accuracy between his any my k type too.

Masada

NakedDex wrote: »

I do want to swap the optic/handle out for a rail but that's for a whole other thing that I want to do to it. A decent c type rail is a pain to come by. They're almost always plastic and of questionable quality.

you want to do the oposite to me? ill swap ya then.,lol

NakedDex

You're not the first person to offer! I've even had offers to swap for the "Domestic" sights (scope on bottom, dotsight on top). I let it go later when I get around to my G36k "redevelopment plan". It's getting an overhaul inside and out. It'll look so good by the time it's done supermodels will flock from across the globe to stand beside it. Fact.
It's gonna cost the price of a new aeg though and given I need to get a new aeg as it is, plus a new loadout and some other equipment, it'll be mid to late summer by the time I get around to it I'd reckon.

Masada

lol., no probs man,
good to hear the CA has decent optics though, im gonna get the SL8 and that has the same scope rail on it.,

NakedDex

The SL8 and the SL9 both have a standard G36 reciever with no mods so you could feasibly swap the optic/handle over for the rail as and when you needed.