Qashqai?? Why?

mildews

Anyone know the answer to this one?
Was out driving this morning and noticed the amount of these SUV wannabes on the road, in liffey valley carpark and in nearly every second driveway in the area. Are they any good? Will the price be affected by the new VRT? and why did Nissan stop making the Primera? Surely Nissan have lost a lot of loyal customers, all-be-it usually older men and a lot of Reps!! who drove the Primera.. or are they playing up to the MID-LIFE crisis..

Silent Partner

The Qashqai is very well spec-ed. You get alloys, air con, bluetooth as standard. On the higher spec model you get a panoramic glass roof, cruise control, reversing sensors, rain-sensing wipers. I don't know what the '08 price was but a standard one for 1.6 petrol was €25k and the higher spec, same engine, was €27,500. They are an excellent car to drive too, well spec-ed and well priced.

I agree with you on the Primera though. It seems to me that with a new Mondeo, a new Laguna and the old reliable of the Passat, Nissan have really shot themselves in the foot by not launching a new competitor. The old Primera was badly in need of re-designing or replacing but not to be dropped altogether. Nissan have some quality models in the US so I don't know why they don't adapt them and launch them over here.

mildews

My Dad (not a young Man) has been a Nissan customer for years, and has been replacing his Primera every two years until now. Said he wouldnt be seen dead in a Quashqai, Just doesnt like them. He always delt with the same Nissan garage for all his cars and servicing and now this Garage has ordered a New Renault Laguna (2.0l Auto)for him at a very competative price.
Just goes to show what a Dealer will do to keep a good customer eh?

Bluefoam

Renualt & Nissan are sister companies...

mildews

Bluefoam wrote: »

Renualt & Nissan are sister companies...

Did'nt know that!! Do you think if he wanted a Mondeo or passat for example, Would they get him one just to keep him as a customer? How far will dealers go to get your business at the moment before the new VRT system comes into practice?

AckwelFoley

The Qashqai is as offroad as an electric wheelchair.

mildews

snyper wrote: »

The Qashqai is as offroad as an electric wheelchair.

:D:D Totally agree

AckwelFoley

Having said that im buying one of these 4x4's in a couple of weeks.

Im getting the commercial version. I do some Buiding from time to time and i drive a opel combo at the moment, but im a a big guy 6'4" and want somthing more comfortable in a commercial and for light off road.. ie through fields but nothing that my van cant really already do.

I was going to buy a landcruiser or Pajero but the engines at 2.5 and 3.2 are unnecessary for what i need and i drive alot so with the antara at 2.0L its more economical

vectra

Bluefoam wrote: »

Renualt & Nissan are sister companies...

Yup,
Renault own Nissan
The Qashqai 1.5 diesel engine is the same as the new reaault laguna 1.5

groupb

Got a Qashqai back in Sept. Never thought of it as an SUV to be honest. Just a very well specced focus competitor. Having said that it was my wifes decision , I still would have bought a focus because its bigger.

bazz26

On a side note, Nissan plan to launch a new Primera in the next 12 months or so. However it will only be sold in countries like Ireland where D segment car sales are still strong. Countries like the UK will not get it though.

Hope it doesn't look like the Tiida thing either.

bazz26

I don't think the Qashqai can be described as an SUV, it is just a 5 door hatchback with higher than average ground clearance and beefed up SUV type bumpers, etc. A bit like the Suzuki SX-4 really.

vectra

bazz26 wrote: »

Hope it doesn't look like the Tiida thing either.

Tru
Bloody horrible things

HJL

snyper wrote: »

The Qashqai is as offroad as an electric wheelchair.

this is true, but im in favour of these type of cars because people who dont need an off roader but insist on buying one, then this type of car is somewhat of a middle ground.

Bluefoam

They are still damgerous to pedestrians and don't have good road holding...

JHMEG

HJL wrote: »

this is true, but im in favour of these type of cars because people who dont need an off roader but insist on buying one, then this type of car is somewhat of a middle ground.

I'd agree. The Quashqai is infinitely more favourable than say an X5 or other 3 litre+ monsters that seem to be required to navigate the mountainous terrain in our cities and towns.

vectra wrote:

Renault own Nissan

No they do not! Renault is a shareholder in Nissan, owning 44%. Nissan in turn own 15% of Renault.

niceirishfella

My wife took one for a spin laste last year to see if she'd like it............and she HATED IT.

She felt it was no comparison to her Hyundai SUV.......citing it wqas too low down and not a proper SUV.


i'm looking forward to bringing her for a spin in the new ford SUV when it arrives to see what she thinks.

astraboy

Bluefoam wrote: »

They are still damgerous to pedestrians and don't have good road holding...

Not getting into the pro/anti SUV debate, but would you care to back that up with evidence? Anyway, the Qashgai is just a raised up supermini. I can see how the design would be a help to people with young families etc, it might be easier to load up with stuff and easier to get kids in and out of then a regular supermini. As regards off roading, I doubt anyone in need of a car that would ever need to go off road would be silly enough to buy one of these. Ground clearence etc is not that good, and I'm sure they would get stumped by an unpaved track not to mind go across a muddy field!.

Sandwich

Qashqai?? Why?

Beacuase its big.

And cheaper than other big cars.

Making it very desireable and accessible (who really want a Land Rover etc) to many people who need big cars to boost their egos and make them feel superior human beings to those driving small (normal) cars.

niceirishfella

Sandwich wrote: »

Qashqai?? Why?

Beacuase its big.

And cheaper than other big cars.

Making it very desireable and accessible (who really want a Land Rover etc) to many people who need big cars to boost their egos and make them feel superior human beings to those driving small (normal) cars.

Nissan's Focus Groups are to blame me thinks.

JHMEG

niceirishfella wrote: »

She felt it was no comparison to her Hyundai SUV.......citing it wqas too low down and not a proper SUV.

i'm looking forward to bringing her for a spin in the new ford SUV when it arrives to see what she thinks.

Googled SUV dictionary:

1. Suv
Sport Utility Vehicle. Neither a sport vehicle nor a utility vehicle. A whack, fakeass (and successful) attempt by the motor vehicle industry to lure in overpaid middle class workaholic moms who think that they need a 3 ton vehicle to carry their stupid kids to soccer practice.

"My old car got 38 miles per gallon and could carry only 4 people; despite the fact that i am a divorced mother of one, i had to upgrade to a vehicle that got 13 miles per gallon and could carry 10 people."



LOL! Read the rest here.

mildews

Sandwich wrote: »

Qashqai?? Why?

Beacuase its big.

And cheaper than other big cars.

Making it very desireable and accessible (who really want a Land Rover etc) to many people who need big cars to boost their egos and make them feel superior human beings to those driving small (normal) cars.

So does this leave us with the impression (true or false) that they are being bought by small men with little w**lies and bossy wives?
Jebus!!! I think I need to buy one.................

Sandwich

niceirishfella wrote: »

Nissan's Focus Groups are to blame me thinks.

You could be right.

I know the manufacturers are in business to make a profit, but there should be some sort of morality code or industry self regulation, to stop them exploiting the vulnerable people who think that they need these vehicles.

Alun

Sandwich wrote: »

Qashqai?? Why?

Beacuase its big.

Actually it isn't .. it's about the same size (1 cm shorter, 4 cm narrower, and only 2cm taller!) as my Focus C-Max which can hardly be described as big, seeing as it's virtually the same size, except for a few cms in height more than a normal Focus hatch. I parked up beside one the other day and was actually surprised at how big it wasn't compared to my car. In isolation it does appear quite large, but that's the styling doing that, and I guess it's what appeals to some people. Personally, I quite like it.

vectra

JHMEG wrote: »

No they do not! Renault is a shareholder in Nissan, owning 44%. Nissan in turn own 15% of Renault.

Cool.
Must inform my local Nissan dealer as that was what he told me

groupb

Bluefoam wrote: »

They are still damgerous to pedestrians and don't have good road holding...

Ok its no focus to drive , but its easily as good as a golf. As for safety , its the safest car NCAP have tested with a good pedistrian rating too. By the way its shorter than a three door focus. The fuel consumtion is no different than any other family hatch. I was never a huge fan of nissan , but they definitly have come up with a new breed of car which is as simple as raising a family hatch and retaining the dynamics.

Lawdie

mildews wrote: »

Anyone know the answer to this one?QUOTE]

Another way to look at this is why not?

I bought the other half a 2L auto Qashqai and its really a good machine. I doubt anyone classes this as an SUV, so whats the point in mentioning off road. Its not pitched as being bigger than other vehicles, but its roomy enough. The car handles fine for her purposes and kids like the ground height, gives good visibility. We've had most makes of vehicles over the years and so far I place this near the top. Price will be effected depending on spec, the 1.5D will be a good option after June '08. Its a personal preference, like clothes, movies, etc. Drive the car and you judge.

Guy:Incognito

astraboy wrote: »

the Qashgai is just a raised up supermini.see !.

It's a segement (a segment and a half really) up from the supermini. It's in the Scenic/C-max/Verso section.

mildews

sorry lawdie! not knocking the car. im sure its very good or there wouldnt be as many around. But why have Nissan alienated a large section of their customer base by de-listing the Primera with-out giving another option that would attract the Primera driver? You cant agree that the Quashqai is a realistic choice for the "older" driver who just want a "conventional" car.

Nodnedlog

Will be buying one in the North after July. The 1.5dci has just enough poke for me, low CO2 (139gms/km) and gives abput 60mpg if it is driven handy. The high driving position and the high specs (especially on uk model) are a selling point also. Have test driven it and it handles well and is great for me since I have two small kids and it's easier to get them in and out.

Might not suit the older motorist but it will certainly not be bought by the more serious 4*4 drivers. Most of the models sold already are the 2wd variety. It will be €150 a year to tax and have 16% vrt.

There is actually a shortage of them here and in the UK at the moment since they have been more popular than Nissan had predicted. I can see more of these smaller "Crossover" suv's being made in the coming years with small diesel engines. VW have the Tiguan out this year and Ford are bringing out the Kuga and there are more on the way.

patrickc

Nodnedlog wrote: »

Will be buying one in the North after July. The 1.5dci has just enough poke for me, low CO2 (139gms/km) and gives abput 60mpg if it is driven handy. The high driving position and the high specs (especially on uk model) are a selling point also. Have test driven it and it handles well and is great for me since I have two small kids and it's easier to get them in and out.

Might not suit the older motorist but it will certainly not be bought by the more serious 4*4 drivers. Most of the models sold already are the 2wd variety. It will be €150 a year to tax and have 16% vrt.

There is actually a shortage of them here and in the UK at the moment since they have been more popular than Nissan had predicted. I can see more of these smaller "Crossover" suv's being made in the coming years with small diesel engines. VW have the Tiguan out this year and Ford are bringing out the Kuga and there are more on the way.

is it much cheaper to buy up north the 1.5dci
what'll be the diffrence in price between it now and in july?
tax cheaper by a hundred ive seen that

Nodnedlog

patrickc wrote: »

is it much cheaper to buy up north the 1.5dci
what'll be the diffrence in price between it now and in july?
tax cheaper by a hundred ive seen that

By July you'll have some post Dec 07 models for sale second hand which have a lower CO2 rating (139gms/km instead of 145gms/km) this makes it much cheaper for vrt and road tax. Current models 6 months old are about £15000 - £16000 and come with more extras than Irish equivalents (Only drawback -The car is made in Sunderland!).

With weak sterling and low CO2 it might be worth it in July. It's a lovely car to drive and your not killing the planet. Irish Nissan dealers are keeping very hush about the new CO2 ratings since it will kill their pre-July sales, they are still quoting 145gms/km which puts the car in the C VRT band! Very sneaky

colm_mcm

Nodnedlog wrote: »

The 1.5dci has just enough poke for me, low CO2 (139gms/km) and gives abput 60mpg if it is driven handy.

Going downhill it might do 60mpg.
50mpg if driven easy is more realistic.

Nodnedlog

colm_mcm wrote: »

Going downhill it might do 60mpg.
50mpg if driven easy is more realistic.

You might be right the mpg quoted is often very best scenario. However I did read this article on it ( www.greencarsite.co.uk/GREENNEWS/nissan-qashqai.htm) and have gotten some aecdotal evidence from Qashqai owners. Who knows?

colm_mcm

Isn't that route mainly motorways and major roads (60mph constant)?

E92

Bluefoam wrote: »

Renualt & Nissan are sister companies...

And the new Laguna's petrol engines are straight out of a Nissan! Nissan diesels are straight out of a Renault too.

Ice_Box

snyper wrote: »

The Qashqai is as offroad as an electric wheelchair.

The squashie was never meant to be an SUV. Its marketed as a tall hatch back which is exactly what it is.

Nodnedlog

colm_mcm wrote: »

Isn't that route mainly motorways and major roads (60mph constant)?

Just checked Nissan UK website these are the offical figures.

It appears to half way 54.3mpg combined. Still not bad going though!


1.5 dCi 6 speed manual 2WD

Power 78/4000 (106/4000)
kW / rpm (PS / rpm)
Maximum speed 174 km/h
108 mph
Fuel consumption (Urban cycle) 6.0 l/100 km
47.1 mpg
Fuel consumption (Extra-urban) 4.8 l/100 km
58.9 mpg
Combined cycle fuel consumption 5.2 l/100 km
54.3 mpg
CO2 Emissions 139 g/km

coolbeans

"No they do not! Renault is a shareholder in Nissan, owning 44%. Nissan in turn own 15% of Renault".

Well that might be technically be true there's no doubt that Renault call the shots in the Renault/Nissan alliance. Nissan was on the verge of bankruptcy a few years back, saddled with billions in debt before Renault effectively took over.
Carlos Ghosn; a Renault bean counter was appointed by the French company to step in and take control of Nissan. He did a fine job. Nissan has since had a string of hits including the bloody Qashqai and all because of Renault's intervention.
In conclusion Renault may own X% of Nissan and Nissan Y% of Renault but there's no doubting which company is in control.:cool:

JHMEG

coolbeans wrote: »

In conclusion Renault may own X% of Nissan and Nissan Y% of Renault but there's no doubting which company is in control.:cool:

True that Renault has a controlling share of Nissan, but they do not own Nissan.

JHMEG

Nodnedlog wrote: »

You might be right the mpg quoted is often very best scenario. However I did read this article on it ( www.greencarsite.co.uk/GREENNEWS/nissan-qashqai.htm) and have gotten some aecdotal evidence from Qashqai owners. Who knows?

That's pretty impressive. Some gentle driving and no above 60mph and they get 67mpg.

mildews

JHMEG wrote: »

True that Renault has a controlling share of Nissan, but they do not own Nissan.

Just a thought then, If renault have a controlling share in nissan. are they trying to relaunch in wloves clothing a re-hashed version of the RX4, The beefed up Scienic.:eek::eek:

colm_mcm

mildews wrote: »

Just a thought then, If renault have a controlling share in nissan. are they trying to relaunch in wloves clothing a re-hashed version of the RX4, The beefed up Scienic.:eek::eek:

At least the RX4 was 4 wheel drive!

(I know it is technically possible to get a 4WD QashQow but who'd buy one?)

galwaytt

JHMEG wrote: »

True that Renault has a controlling share of Nissan, but they do not own Nissan.

That's like saying the bank doesn't own your house. Want to see if you can sell it without telling them?

As for the OP's question - I'm a why not. Having had several new Scenics, and a fabulous RX4 Privelege, w/full leather, we've mourned the passing of the sensible driving position hatch ever since........the 1.5dCi is aslo a big plus........we might look at one post-July.

And the Nissan isn't an SUV so why compare it to one?

colm_mcm

is the VW Tiguan an SUV?

galwaytt

colm_mcm wrote: »

is the VW Tiguan an SUV?

Supercilious Urban Vehicle ?

Possibly. Probably, even.......

colm_mcm

Qashqai and Tiguan are pretty much the same idea as each other. except the Tiguan is a little pricey..

prospect

I love these threads, people making stupid assumptions about others without any degree of logic...

S-Class Merc??? Why???
Cars with big engines?? Why???
Cars capable of speeds of over 120Km/h??? Why???
Metallic Paint??? Why???
Non-Standare Alloys??? Why???
SunRoof??? Why???

Silver-Tiger

Tiguan will have a 1.4 pet engine and will attract, altough €34k starting i think,

Ford Kuga looks a serious rip off of qashqai except with ford lights, and starts with a 2.0l engine

Qashqai 7 Seater due Nov this year, if they don't fcuk up availability like normal qashqai that will blow competitors out of the water i think,

Guy:Incognito

Was it not supposed to be coming out with a Renault badge as well?

E92

Stekelly wrote: »

Was it not supposed to be coming out with a Renault badge as well?

Renault Koleos?