High 5 Protein bars

21stone

hey im 21 stone and looking to lose weight etc

if i have breakfast ( weetabix + skimmed milk ) at 8am

High 5 Protein Bar st 10.30am

chicken chassuer ( 2 chicken fillets , onions , mushrooms , carrots ) low fat sauce , all oven coked at 1pm

High 5 Protein Bar at 3.30pm

small meal ie boiled egg x 2 and brownbread at 6

would that constitute 5 meals ????? ie the protein bars ( good or a bad thing ) take in mind my usualy diet was takeaways and chocalate

now combine that with 40 mins weight trainning and 25 Hiit training mon-wed-fri and 40 min walk tue and thu and lots of water would that be sufficient to lose weight

obviousy eat fruit aswell , i hate veg , only eat carrots onions etc tomatoes

Hanley

It's a good start. Certainly better than what you have been doing!! Everyone will probably tell you to not eat the protein bar, but once it's a good quality one you should be fine.

You should probably try and get another small snack in before you go to bed tho.

What's the protein, carb and fat breakdown on the bars?

21stone

im not sure i'll get it to post tommorow

i know there very good bars and drinks

my old man sells em and its not a plug guys

alot of top athletes buy the stuff off him

justsomebloke

no offence but you have been posting here for at least a month if not longer and you are still 21 stone seriously just start eating properly now and stop worrying about the small things

mack1

Just had a look on the High 5 website, the only protein bars I could find were the Protein Recovery Bars here: http://www.high5-online.com/acatalog/Bars___Energy_Bars___Sports_Bars___Protein_Bars.html
(bottom of the page) - if these are the ones you are eating then I would say one after training is fine but cut them out otherwise, the recovery bar is designed for after training and as such has fast acting carbs (ie sugar of some kind) and some protein (though at only 13g per bar I'd say you're better off with some whey). Either way, they are for after a weights session, not a meal replacement.

As jsb said man, just start eatin right, you dont need to be eatin bars and stuff! Yes it's better than what you used to eat, but if you want real results then you have to make real change.

21stone

well jsb thanks for the smart comment

well unfortunately i cant change my id name

im 284 pounds which to my knowledge is 20st 4 pounds so im down

i started at 297 pounds on jan 1st

so i am down in weight

still trying to tweek my diet

Jimmy Bottlehead

Aye, but tis better to eat whole foods if ya can - by the sounds of things, they aren't meals on their own... if ya can't get something of better nutritional value into ya, get whey, I'm sure it's healther than the bars.

Hanley

Whey is just protein. Hardly a balanced meal. But then again... everyone always says just take whey... so why bother coming up with a constructive post!!

Whey... stickies... weights... diet... cut... cliches...

And (w)hey, you've done well so far, just keep up what you're doing. It's working. Eventually it'll level off and you'll need to tweak things further, but don't sweat it now.

Jimmy Bottlehead

Hanley wrote: »

Whey is just protein. Hardly a balanced meal. But then again... everyone always says just take whey... so why bother coming up with a constructive post!!

Whey... stickies... weights... diet... cut... cliches...
.

I'm well aware that whey is just protein (hence, why it's called whey protein...!) but I'd also hardly call a High 5 bar a balanced meal. Neither of us are right, but I'd still say that a shake is the lesser of two evils. I view protein bars as a treat, albeit one that is a fair bit better than a Yorkie.

Hanley

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

I'm well aware that whey is just protein (hence, why it's called whey protein...!) but I'd also hardly call a High 5 bar a balanced meal. Neither of us are right, but I'd still say that a shake is the lesser of two evils. I view protein bars as a treat, albeit one that is a fair bit better than a Yorkie.

I am right. Where have I said anything in this thread that is wrong?

What he's doing is working. It may not be "ideal" but it's working. A protein shake might achieve the exact same thing, but that's not was he's doing. For someone who's 280lb just cleaning up their diet and dropping out the crap is MORE than enoguh to start off with. Sure you could go 100% fro the start, but why do that when you can keep some tricks up your sleeves to get past the hard parts??

Jimmy Bottlehead

Hanley wrote: »

I am right. Where have I said anything in this thread that is wrong?

What he's doing is working. It may not be "ideal" but it's working. A protein shake might achieve the exact same thing, but that's not was he's doing. For someone who's 280lb just cleaning up their diet and dropping out the crap is MORE than enoguh to start off with. Sure you could go 100% fro the start, but why do that when you can keep some tricks up your sleeves to get past the hard parts??

Aren't you always?

Of course what he is doing is working - but thats like someone on a diet of six choc bars a day throwing in one decent meal instead of a choc bar. Its an improvement, and there may be a difference, but it doesn't mean it is neccessarily 'right'.

Hanley, I'm not picking a fight or anything, but surely common sense prevails - High 5 are better than a choc bar (or indeed a kick in the arse, as the auld lady says ) but there are plenty of other things better than a High 5 bar.

21Stone, fair play man, you're doing excellent, but throwing something a bit better together instead of the bars would give you that extra bit of good food.

AlphaMale 3OO

he IS right. he's better off waiting till he shifts more poundage before he revoutionises his diet. at his current weight, merely dropping his calories will be very effective, as he has done. as he gets closer to his target weight he can introduce more advanced techniques such as nutrient timing etc. this is the way i went from 24% to 10% body fat, and speaking from experience, it was a whole lot easier walking before I could run.

justsomebloke

truthfully I am not trying to be smart I am trying to be realistic with you. Why did I think you were still 21 stone, well

21stone wrote: »

hey im 21 stone

anyway I still think that you are looking at the specifics way to early. At 21 stone, sorry 20.2 stone:rolleyes:, you just need to learn how to eat properly and learning how to put together a full proper diet or are you planning on supplementing 2 meals with protein bars for the rest of your life, cause truthfully I hope you aren't cause as many people here have said already they aren't ideal.
At this point you should be looking to see how you can structure the diet you will have for the rest of your life not just the one to lose the weight otherwise you are doomed to start putting weight back on. Also at your weight it is going to be alot easier for you to lose weight by just doing simple things like getting your diet in order and exercising

Jimmy Bottlehead

forbesii wrote: »

he IS right. he's better off waiting till he shifts more poundage before he revoutionises his diet. at his current weight, merely dropping his calories will be very effective, as he has done. as he gets closer to his target weight he can introduce more advanced techniques such as nutrient timing etc. this is the way i went from 24% to 10% body fat, and speaking from experience, it was a whole lot easier walking before I could run.

But at what point does he give up the bars (walking) and start eating better (running)? With people saying "It's ok, two bars a day won't kill you, in fact they're great compared to what you WERE eating", he's not likely to want to change. Where exactly is the confusion over telling someone to eat right?!?

Hanley

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

But at what point does he give up the bars (walking) and start eating better (running)? With people saying "It's ok, two bars a day won't kill you, in fact they're great compared to what you WERE eating", he's not likely to want to change. Where exactly is the confusion over telling someone to eat right?!?

I'm not sure if you've ever attempted to lose a large amount of weight, but completely changing EVERYTHING is very hard unless you're highly, highly motivated and really disciplined. The majority of people who start out at 21 stone aren't. As forbesii said, it's alot easier to walk before you can run.

Seeing progress is probably the best motivator there is and it generally spurs people on to greater progress which requires a larger effort and break from your comfort zone. Which should make subsquent changes easier to stick with.

And finally, which do you think is better to say to someone who's already ding a good job with weightloss? "good job, what you're doing now is working but it won't work forever" or "those bars are worthless, you have to change them"

People are so concerned with ideals and perfection that they fail to look past what works even tho it might not be what everyone reads about. I'm not trying to slag or upset anyone here but relatively alot of people who post advice have great knowledge from what they've learned but haven't neccessarily implemented and tried out alot of the things they talk about.

21stone

i realise diet is prob the most important thing to do but im not looking to become a body builder with f all fat %

i just want to cut out junk food , eat 3 meals a say and 2 snacks to utilise daily cals needed to keep metabolism up and burn more cals ie from weights

i dont wanna be a monk , anything is better than what i have been doing

kebabs,curry,pizza,chocalate etc

so any sort of cooking be it george foreman or boiling chicken with small pasta to boiled eggs and toast is far better than what i had

if i drop alot of weight over comming months then id see what i wanna do

but for now just weight loss

Ted_Bundy

Can you buy these high5 protein bars in regular shops or just specialized fitness shops??

21stone

and i know what im doing will only work to certain extent

then id have to tighten up the diet to more specific good foods ie brown rice pasta , actual tomatoes instead of dolmio for bolognese ,

but as hanley said , seeing results is a big motivator and im now training with my cousin who hopefully will spur each other on

i can lift ok weights as i did them years ago , not in a mad way but i do think i have alot of muscle under the fat and muscle does weight more

even when i was stick skinny years ago i was 14.5 stone and u could see my ribs and i wore a 34 waist

bench press ( free weights ) 25kg each arm 10-12 reps x 4 sets and same only 17.5 each arm for incline bench

15kg for dumbell curls 10 reps x 4 sets ie

not huge i know but heavier than alot starting weights

Dragan

OP - stay doing what you are doing until your weight loss stalls.

Then change something up, like increase activity or cut something out that might not be "so good" from your diet.

When it stalls again do the same thing again.

The only thing i would really say is do what you can to work in more veg, all colours and all textures. They really do rock, health wise.