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Playstation 3 Vs XBox360

  • 15-01-2008 9:42am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭


    Hi,

    I know this conversation has pronably been dicussed many times but just looking for some fresh opinions now that the PS£ has been out for some time.

    I want to buy a PS3 because it can paly Bluray disks but at the same time I'm big in to games (online game especially) and have that the Xbox360 is far superior in this area. Is this true and if so why?

    Thanks in advance?

    EireEV


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,596 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    XBox Live is generally the better service (though it's been going through tough times at the moment and is in the middle of a class action lawsuit due to downtime etc), but as a balance, Playstation Network is free and is catching up.

    It depends on what games you like too. For online games, the 360 has Halo 3, Crackdown whereas the PS3 has Warhawk and Resistance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    Far more quality games out for the Xbox 360 at the moment. I've about 10 Xbox 360 games, and 2 PS3 games.

    This will probably slowly change, but the days of having a huge amount of exclusive games on the PlayStation with the other consoles playing catch up seem over. There are more quality exclusives like Gears of War, Mass Effect or Dead Rising on the Xbox 360 than the PS3

    Xbox 360 appears cheaper as well, but it does work out expensive when you look at what you have to buy extra. It doesn't come with Wifi, that is €80 more for the adapter. It doesn't come with rechargeable batteries for the controllers, that is another €30. And a year subscription to Xbox LIVE is €60. On the other hand there are a lot of cheap-ish games for the Xbox 360 because it has been out longer. You won't get that on the PS3 at the moment.

    My advice is go for the Xbox 360 at the moment, probably the Elite version to get the larger harddrive and the HDMI connection.You will have plenty of games to play right now.

    If you really want a Blu-Ray player you can always pick up a PS3 a bit later, because they aren't that much more expensive than a stand alone Blu-Ray player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭Lawless_Samurai


    The Blu-Ray is pretty impresive I have to say. Got a PS3 over Xmas and pretty happy with it! :D


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Wicknight wrote: »
    On the other hand there are a lot of cheap-ish games for the Xbox 360 because it has been out longer. You won't get that on the PS3 at the moment.

    If you really want a Blu-Ray player you can always pick up a PS3 a bit later, because they aren't that much more expensive than a stand alone Blu-Ray player.

    Not a lot maybe, but a few starting to filter through. Play.com have Rainbox 6 and GRAW2 for 27.99 each, Jericho SE down to 27 or 28E as well as a few others. Not much but a good start.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭0ubliette


    For my money id go with 360. The ps3 just cant justify its price unless you actually just want a cut price blu ray player. The onyl game ive absolutely love don ps3 so far is uncharted. Everything else is either average at best (rfom) or already on 360 in a superior version (orange box)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭LookingFor


    We have this thread over and over and over again..

    But I would say 2008 is the perfect time to pick up a PS3. The hidef format war should be over shortly in Blu-ray's favour, if it isn't already, and if 360's exclusive lineup looked better in 2007, the opposite seems to be true in 2008. MGS4, LittleBigPlanet, GT5, Disgaea 3, Resistance 2, Heavy Rain, Motorstorm 2, Yakuza 3, Killzone 2, Tekken 6, SOCOM: Confrontation, White Knight Chronicles, Infamous, Wipeout HD...and lots others. Hopefully we'll have in-game XMB and Home too soon enough, which should make things a lot more competitive on the online side. And the price isn't nearly the same issue it was even a few months ago, relative to 360 the machine is pretty brilliant value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,318 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    0ubliette wrote: »
    For my money id go with 360. The ps3 just cant justify its price unless you actually just want a cut price blu ray player. The onyl game ive absolutely love don ps3 so far is uncharted. Everything else is either average at best (rfom) or already on 360 in a superior version (orange box)

    Hold on, your living in the past! People have suggested getting a xbox elite which is €457 , while the ps3 is €403 (even the xbox premium is €351 ) So there really isn't much of a price diffrence anymore! And has been previously mentioned the 360 doesnt come with wi-fi (the adapter is €80!!) and rechargable batteries.

    Advantages of Xbox:
    There is more games on the Xbox, more second hand games floating around. Better online system and people say the controller is better(personally i dont prefer it), some(alot?) region free games.

    Disadvantages of xbox:
    Very noisey , high failure rate (although could be fixed now since earlier models). Its HD dvd drive might be a dying breed with 70% of major studios backin blu-ray. Xbox live costs money

    Advatages of PS3:
    Built in wireless and rechargable controllers, Very decent blu-ray player , quiter than the xbox, completely region free on games .....oh and its shiny:p , online gaming is free.

    Disadvantages of Ps3:
    Heard of a few peoples blu-ray drives breaking, Lack of quality exclusives (might change this year) , online isn't great, No longer backwards compatible.



    If you dont already own a xbox there is definitly enough games on the ps3 to keep you happy, other than that its whatever you prefer!!



    (all prices from komplett.ie)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭johnfaul


    i got a ps3 over xmas and couldnt be happier with it am playin resistance online and cod4 and have no faults with the playstation network


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭Super Sidious


    Paying an extra €200 for a HDDVD player is pointless considering that as witnessmenow said that 70% are backing blu-ray, and if sony open up to P0rn then the P0rn industry will be picking BluRay as they want the best quality... the porn industry backed VHS over Betamax before thats what ended that war...

    The games are geting better for PS3, plus blu-ray is amazing on a Full HD TV...
    Majority of games are available on both consoles anyway...

    PS3 is €400, and because its region free ordering games online can save you crazy amounts of money! €75 for a PS3 Game in GAME, online you can pay upto €30 less!

    Red ring of death is another reason not to buy XBOX360... A huge amount of people are having to return their XBOX, which is a terrible statistic for the console!

    For the future I think you should go with PS3, its worth it in the long run and plenty of games out and coming out in coming months for it!

    -Fly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭eoin2nc


    Xbox has the games- Halo 3, Gears of War, BioShock, PGR4, Mass Effect Forza, no question about it. PS3 is more reliable and plays BluRay


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭Vyse


    flynner13 wrote: »
    ... the porn industry backed VHS over Betamax before thats what ended that war...
    -Fly


    The porn industry did not back VHS, simply betamax refused to make porn videos:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    Vyse wrote: »
    The porn industry did not back VHS, simply betamax refused to make porn videos:D

    and how will it affect the format war nowdays anyway.
    Seeing as it is available via the web


  • Posts: 5,285 [Deleted User]


    It depends on what games you like too. For online games, the 360 has Halo 3, Crackdown whereas the PS3 has Warhawk and Resistance.

    In saying this , i have never been able to get a game of crackdown going online. I always wanted to play it with another person .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Qs


    I don't think the 360s exclusive line up is that much better than the PS3. Gears and Halo fair enough but Mass Effect was a disappoitnment from anyone I've talked to, Bioshock is decent but not a must have, the driving games are average at best. PS3 has only 2 real quality exclusives at the moment(Ratchet and Clank & Draneks Fortune) but thats all going to change this year with alot of the big hitters coming out.

    Anyway the one good reason to get an Xbox is its online system, the PS3s online system is a mess. If you are really that big into online gaming I'd say get an Xbox.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 gearoidos


    honestly i think ps3 will absolutely demolish the x-box in the long run! 2 good games for the ps3??? go way outta that!! to be honest i would go with ps3! i have played both! and i have a ps3! online for x-box... you have to pay...... ROBBERY! PS3 has a good online system and FREE:D


    GOOD GAMES : Rainbow 6 Vegas, Warhawk, COD 4, Fifa 08!! it all depends to what games you like!! 2008 lotsa games are comin!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,742 ✭✭✭Branoic


    gearoidos wrote: »
    honestly i think ps3 will absolutely demolish the x-box in the long run! 2 good games for the ps3??? go way outta that!! to be honest i would go with ps3! i have played both! and i have a ps3! online for x-box... you have to pay...... ROBBERY! PS3 has a good online system and FREE:D


    GOOD GAMES : Rainbow 6 Vegas, Warhawk, COD 4, Fifa 08!! it all depends to what games you like!! 2008 lotsa games are comin!!

    Wow, that's an awful lot of exclamation marks!!

    Anyway, 3 of the 4 games you mentioned above are on the 360 too. And to be honest, 6 euro a month for XBox Live is nothing considering 1) how far ahead in functionality it is and 2) how much more content it has (hundreds of videos and demos as opposed to a couple dozen on PSN). The online functionality of the PS3 at this point in time can only be described as "adequate".

    And you don't even have to pay if all you want is the videos and demos. Silver membership is free.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my PS3 and yeah, maybe in the longrun it might beat the 360, but at the moment the 360 is a better games option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    flynner13 wrote: »
    Paying an extra €200 for a HDDVD player is pointless considering that as witnessmenow said that 70% are backing blu-ray, and if sony open up to P0rn then the P0rn industry will be picking BluRay as they want the best quality... the porn industry backed VHS over Betamax before thats what ended that war...
    -Fly

    It made a big difference back then I'm sure but this is a very different time. The web makes that element of the war much less relevant. The Warner switch has more or less sealed the deal. Only a major party switching to HD DVD can swing this back in favour of Toshiba's baby now.

    Besides, I have heard dark whispers that Microsoft's support of HD-DVD is at best a tit-for-tat competition with Sony (after all X360 games are still DVD based) or at worst an effort to stalemate the format war until their own digital distribution interests become technologically feasible. Without the recent major break by Warner the prevailing opinion was that this format war could take several years- with no clear winner and hence no established physical format present at that time it would be much easier for a platform-free download format to be accepted. With all the consumer confusion regarding the formats, that kind of magic bullet would be very attractive indeed. Speculation though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Cully


    Xbox360 is the best machine right now, but PS3 will be the best in about a year (I think).

    Xbox live is far better than PS3 at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭thewheel2.0


    The xbox has a better service for ingame messaging and chat but the ps3 can still play online games and they work perfect. i sold my xbox 360 for a ps3 so ive experienced both .
    so..... the xbox 360 has the service but the ps3 has the games it has something either- right now or coming out soon- for everyone, with MGS ,Grand turismo and devil may cry 4 coming out . but its down to PERSONAL TASTE the xbox has an abundance of FPS or driving games but the ps3 has some thing for everyone

    on the other hand Gears of War is the best game ever

    and in my opinion Halo 3 was the dissapoinment of 2007. (bought a hd tv the day it came out and sold my 360 because of it)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭The guy


    EireEV wrote: »
    Hi,

    I know this conversation has pronably been dicussed many times but just looking for some fresh opinions now that the PS£ has been out for some time.

    I want to buy a PS3 because it can paly Bluray disks but at the same time I'm big in to games (online game especially) and have that the Xbox360 is far superior in this area. Is this true and if so why?

    Thanks in advance?

    EireEV

    Right now though the 360 really has an advantage on games so if you wanted a console now I'd say 360 but in the long run PS3.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 347 ✭✭Cato


    well im not really a console person, but i like games i dont care about the latest bluray/hddvd war (although if pushed i would go for HDdvd), but i would go for the 360 because i like my games and being able to play online simple as, i will not invest in a piece of hardware by what it will be like in 1 or 2 years time, that would be a waste of money since it will be cheaper in 1 or 2 years time.

    Also i like to follow hardware developments, and reading about this "cell processor" i can see that the console is mostly based on hype and clever marketing and it really makes a difference people will by into that stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    Cato wrote: »
    well im not really a console person, but i like games i dont care about the latest bluray/hddvd war (although if pushed i would go for HDdvd)
    if you had bought a HD-DVD player last week, you would be one of only 7% of people purchasing a HD disc player that went for one. the other 93% went out and bought a Blu-Ray player. Do you have a betamax video player at home by any chance? :)
    but i would go for the 360 because i like my games and being able to play online simple as
    I've never had any problems playing PS3 games online, it works just fine.
    i will not invest in a piece of hardware by what it will be like in 1 or 2 years time, that would be a waste of money since it will be cheaper in 1 or 2 years time.
    There is very little price difference between the 2 consoles (see previous posts).
    Also i like to follow hardware developments, and reading about this "cell processor" i can see that the console is mostly based on hype and clever marketing and it really makes a difference people will by into that stuff.
    Following hardware developments? I'm sorry, but no you don't. not at all. Or you'd be aware of the contribution the Cell has made to the most powerful distributed computing project in the world or how it is being used for heavy duty processing tasks in hospitals and research centres that require more processing power than is available from regular PC's. Or that IBM has started using them in it's mainframes. And I could go on.

    last weeks HD player sales showed 93% Blu-Ray against 7% HD-DVD after the Warner decision (it was approx. 60/40 the previous week apparently) so the HD format war seems to be effectively over now. If you want something that's a HD video player as well as a console then your choice is pretty much already made in favour of the PS3. Add DivX6 certification (as opposed to MS's DivX5 compatability) and you have another win for the PS3.

    2007 was the year of the 360, there's no denying that, but it had an extra year of release over the PS3 and nothing much in the way of direct competition.

    2008 on the other hand is without any doubt going to be the year of the PS3. The year that Sony brings it in a big way and I really don't think M$ will have seen it coming in time to do anything about it.

    When it works, Live! is the hub of the best online gaming experience going, but it's not free, and there have been a lot of problems with it recently.

    Unfortunately for Live!, there are a lot of things going on at Sony HQ to redress the balance and within the next 6-9 months Sony's XMB (plus Home) will be pushing for the lead and by the end of this year will have left Live! far behind*.

    You only have to spend 30 minutes reading one of the big PS3 news sites to see all the things that are coming in 2008 and appreciate that Sony was playing the long game from the start.

    There are now more than enough top notch games on the PS3 to keep you busy while you wait for the many excellent PS3 exclusives to arrive, you really won't be left wanting at all.

    There have also been some news stories pointing at previous statements from developers that the PS3 was difficult to code for were a tad short sighted. Some have indicated that the difficulty seems to be with porting a 360 or PC version of a game to PS3, whereas porting a PS3 game the other way makes for a better game on all platforms. We should see some good timed PS3 exclusives over the coming years if this is the case.

    Add to that that Naughty Dog have said that Drakes fortune would simply not have been possible to make to the same standard on the 360 and that Crytek have shunned the 360 in favour of the PS3 for the only console release of Crysis and things are starting to look a lot better on the Sony side of the fence.

    One thing I would say though is if you're 'thinking' of buying a PS3 but aren't gagging to get one right this second, then wait for a month or so as it looks like there might be another price cut. Production costs for the console have dropped dramatically recently with the newer model and it seems that Sony really want to meet their projected targets for units sold but it doesn't look like they're going to make it without another price cut and rumours ar rife that the US will have a $299 PS3 as soon as the end of Jan, so expect that to make it's way to Europe shortly afterwards.

    wow, that was a big post. I guess that's a fanboy alert then. :D

    *IMHO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    OP, granted, you probably don't want to hear this, but why get one? Do you really, really need a console? If you don't desperately need one now, then why not go on a holiday or spend the money on something more worthwhile?

    If you must get a console and have to get one now, then the only real option is the 360, since it has more stuff for it at the moment. If you can hold off for a few months (or maybe even a year), the PS3 will have a load of kick ass stuff available and will be more than worth it. Buying a PS3 now won't be a complete waste, but expect to have it stuck away in a corner until some worthwhile games are released.

    Also, as has been said, the longer you wait, the cheaper the PS3 and 360 will cost. No need to rush into anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,167 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    humanji wrote: »
    Also, as has been said, the longer you wait, the cheaper the PS3 and 360 will cost. No need to rush into anything.



    the price of a ps3 has been cut significantly recently, we wont see another

    price cut for a long time id say.




    :cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭MikeHoncho


    PSTREE SUX + TREE60 IS DE GHEY

    Wii IS DA ROXORZ:D:D:D:D

    No seriously. I think it just comes down to personal taste at the end of the day. Yes 360 has more games and better online but PS3 is a bluray player too which makes it a great purchase. Which is more important to you? I went for a 360. You might think otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,587 ✭✭✭✭guil


    i got a ps3 cos i had the ps1 and ps2 and i just never liked x box dunno y never relly played one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 347 ✭✭Cato


    I meant as a format i think HDDVD makes more sense i dont give a ****e about sales im not a buisiness man. i know sonys going to win every dumbass gos out and buys sony products without question, also most people dont have 40"+plasmas LCds tvs in their houses! why would i wont Bluray or HDDVD for that matter on my 25" CRT tv?

    Maybe the cell is used in hospitals etc w/e but the playstation hasent seen and wont see much of a benefit if at all. and talking in terms in of gameing, not business solutions it is badlycombined with other hardware vital for graphics proccesing making it badly optimised, it is also overpriced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭elgriff


    humanji wrote: »
    OP, granted, you probably don't want to hear this, but why get one? Do you really, really need a console? If you don't desperately need one now, then why not go on a holiday or spend the money on something more worthwhile?
    .

    I don't think that type of comment is going to be particularly popular in here (not in the top 8 anyway!). If you think consoles are a waste of time, go natter away in the Travel section.

    I wouldn't be hanging around for the pricecut, and those of you who say it is overpriced simply need to look at how much it would cost you to bring a 360 up to the same spec as the PS3. I dont see why there is any confusion; with a PS3 you get wireless, a HDD, free online play, better disc drive (ie. bluray), motion sensing controls, and you are entering a year when exclusives (which is how I judge a coming year, since anything other than exclusives will be available on both consoles!) are shaping up notably better for the PS3. Add to all of that the lack of RRoD and interference with WiFi and you're laughing!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    I thought it was one of the best (definitely top 8 :) ). I bought a PS3 because I really wanted a new console for games, that would also be a HD media player, that would also let me put linux on it. But I think if someone has to post here asking which they should get and which is better, then they probably don't really want either and there's a good chance they'll be happier spending their money on something else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    I was gonna buy a PS3 in the New Year due to the fact it has Bluray. I already have a 360. Although it's pretty pricey my reasoning was that I was getting a Bluray player as well as a top notch console and I had a feeling Bluray was going to win due to the PS3. My fiancee surprisingly bought me the PS3 at Christmas along with Uncharted. After the first hour or so of playing Uncharted I just thought "I've never seen anything like this on the 360!"

    PSN is a load of crap - I'm sure it will improve - and at the moment I find myself back playing Pro Evo on the 360, and I need to get back to Dead Rising, but I think they're both class consoles. I also need to get stuck properly in to Resistance and Kane and Lynch on PS3. I have a strange feeling the PS3 is gonna kick ass this year.

    There are good arguments for both so it's down to personal preference. If I was buying a new console now I'd probably go PS3. Everything about it is a bit slicker. Luckily I'm in a position to have both so I'm happy.

    My recommendation is er.... get both! Sorry if it's not very helpful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    Cato wrote: »
    I meant as a format i think HDDVD makes more sense i dont give a ****e about sales im not a buisiness man.
    as a consumer you SHOULD care about sales because thats what determines if you are buying a product that will have a future or not, but that's not the point I was trying to make. I was pointing out that you are talking like you know what you're saying when you obviously have no idea what you are talking about because you just publicly backed a losing horse after the race was already finished. how are people supposed to take your opinion seriously if you are that ill informed?
    also most people dont have 40"+plasmas LCds tvs in their houses! why would i wont Bluray or HDDVD for that matter on my 25" CRT tv?
    why would you NOT want/have a Plasma or LCD if you have a next gen console? you wouldn't see the full benefit of either console (as a gaming platform OR media player) without some form of HDTV. It doesn't need to be a 40" LCD though, a 28" or 32" would be infinitely better than a 25" CRT and as someone who had a 28" CRT that cost €185 from Aldi when I got a PS3 on launch day I can attest to that 100% and the difference between an LCD and cheap crappy TV is immense. As for "most people don't have" I think you'll find a lot of people DO have Plasmas and LCD's these days, at least a lot of people in my street seem to and it's not like I'm living in Blackrock or anything fancy, just a normal rural suburb full of working class families. I might actually start a poll in the HE forum to see what the % is as I'm kind of curious to know.
    Maybe the cell is used in hospitals etc w/e but the playstation hasent seen and wont see much of a benefit if at all. and talking in terms in of gameing, not business solutions it is badlycombined with other hardware vital for graphics proccesing making it badly optimised, it is also overpriced.
    and again you are showing you don't know what you are talking about. How about you give us some examples of the PS3's lack of "gaming power" as you put it?

    Also, the PS3 is now cheaper than the 360 Elite as has been said many times before on this thread. The price argument against the PS3 is no argument at all and it is pointless to keep regurgitating an argument that has been irrelevant for months.

    How about a rebuttal for this (apologies to the rest of the class for repeating myself):

    Naughty Dog have said that Drakes Fortune would not be possible to make on the 360 BUT that the game is only using around a 30% of the potential power of the PS3 and they are already looking at ways of harnessing the extra power available to them, whereas current game development on the 360 is using over 80% of the potential power of the MS console.

    Crytek have also hinted that they are doing a PS3 port of Crysis, which is arguably one of (if not THE) the most graphics and physics intensive games available for the PC that needs both a top end DX10 capable graphics card and a Physx card to do it justice. And all that is going to be coming to the PS3, but they will not be doing a 360 port of it because of "technical reasons".

    Okay Cato, here's your big chance. Show us all some evidence that the PS3 is nothing but an overpriced, underpowered box full of nothing but hype?

    Why don't you show us all something other than an ill informed opinion based on out of date speculation with no evidence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    I'd go for 360. (if you like large selection of games and excellent internet service and a decent controller)

    I'd go for ps3 if your into HD video content.


    Personally I have both, and only use the ps3 for blu ray. (no decent games)
    Use the xbox for gaming and watching hd dvds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 300 ✭✭superweld


    why does everyone always promote the 360 because of the amount of games available for it? these are old games out last year and the year before. if you're buying a console now you should be thinking of the present and the future. the ps3 already has enough games to keep ANYONE busy and there are many many games coming out this year. look to the future, the future is now, playstation (whisper)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    vibe666 wrote: »
    Crytek have also hinted that they are doing a PS3 port of Crysis, which is arguably one of (if not THE) the most graphics and physics intensive games available for the PC that needs both a top end DX10 capable graphics card and a Physx card to do it justice. And all that is going to be coming to the PS3, but they will not be doing a 360 port of it because of "technical reasons".

    Actually, that is incorrect, Crytek haven't said they won't be doing a 360 version because of "technical reasons". The closest they came to saying that was "next generation consoles like the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3 do not offer the sufficient power", which was a good while ago. Since then they have said they could do versions for both, with "optimizations", but haven't said whether they will, just that's it's possible. I wouldn't take a rumour on a PS fansite as fact :) Since that Surfergirl has said they're releasing it on both, but again that's just another rumour. I expect we will see it on consoles after it's poor PC sales.

    If the 360 couldn't handle Crysis because of the graphics, then the PS3 wouldn't fare better, the 360 has the stronger graphics chip. The PS3 is then stronger in the CPU department.

    As far as developers go and which platform they think is better, we don't usually hear much from them (they prefer to remain "agnostic" and not comment). I would take what a Sony-only dev says (Naughty Dog, second-party) with a grain of salt.

    I think this is the year to own both, tbh. If you like the games already out for 360 that'll tip the scales in it's favour, but if you're interested in blu-ray it tips the scales in the other direction. Let the games catalogues and upcoming exclusives decide it for you personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Actually, minor fact correct for my own post, it seems Sony do own Naughty Dog. I was for some reason under the impression they were still a second-party dev (like Insomniac).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    elgriff wrote: »
    If you think consoles are a waste of time, go natter away in the Travel section.

    Where did I say that? If the OP needed a console, they'd already have one. If it's just an impulse buy then they should think about it incase they end up getting one and never using it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    koneko wrote: »
    Actually, minor fact correct for my own post, it seems Sony do own Naughty Dog. I was for some reason under the impression they were still a second-party dev (like Insomniac).

    hmm, thanks for the update koneko. I assumed they were independent from the way I've heard them talking. I can imagine they might well just be saying what they're told to if they're owned by Sony. schneaky indeed.

    I'm sure I've read that Crysis story elsewhere in the last week though, not just on PSU (which does seem to be a bit of a fanboy site), that was just the first link I found that wasn't from months ago in the older story when someone spotted the "PS3 dev wanted" advert on the crytek site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    vibe666 wrote: »
    hmm, thanks for the update koneko. I assumed they were independent from the way I've heard them talking. I can imagine they might well just be saying what they're told to if they're owned by Sony. schneaky indeed.

    They used to be a second-party dev, meaning they had a contract with Sony to exclusively make games for them. I guess at some point Sony figured they might as well go the whole hog and just buy them :)
    I'm sure I've read that Crysis story elsewhere in the last week though, not just on PSU (which does seem to be a bit of a fanboy site), that was just the first link I found that wasn't from months ago in the older story when someone spotted the "PS3 dev wanted" advert on the crytek site.

    I think it was linked on other sites but may have originated on that one. There were a whole bunch of rumours about Crysis at one point. Last I'd heard EA said they weren't doing either, but Crytek said they could do it for both. It's all a bit messy really because last year they said neither would be handle the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭elgriff


    humanji wrote: »
    Where did I say that? If the OP needed a console, they'd already have one. If it's just an impulse buy then they should think about it incase they end up getting one and never using it.

    I think the very fact that they started a thread in boards gives away the fact that it is not an 'impulse buy'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    elgriff wrote: »
    I think the very fact that they started a thread in boards gives away the fact that it is not an 'impulse buy'
    They wanted a console. Nowhere does it say they desperately need a console.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    humanji wrote: »
    They wanted a console. Nowhere does it say they desperately need a console.
    to be fair, I don't think anyone really 'needs' a console. I don't see any kids in Africa starving for an xbox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    You'd be surprised. Trocaire money goes towards buying consoles for starving kids. The ironic thing is that they don't have tv's to use them on, but Trocaire are b*stards like that :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 347 ✭✭Cato


    vibe666 wrote: »
    as a consumer you SHOULD care about sales because thats what determines if you are buying a product that will have a future or not, but that's not the point I was trying to make. I was pointing out that you are talking like you know what you're saying when you obviously have no idea what you are talking about because you just publicly backed a losing horse after the race was already finished. how are people supposed to take your opinion seriously if you are that ill informed?

    why would you NOT want/have a Plasma or LCD if you have a next gen console? you wouldn't see the full benefit of either console (as a gaming platform OR media player) without some form of HDTV. It doesn't need to be a 40" LCD though, a 28" or 32" would be infinitely better than a 25" CRT and as someone who had a 28" CRT that cost €185 from Aldi when I got a PS3 on launch day I can attest to that 100% and the difference between an LCD and cheap crappy TV is immense. As for "most people don't have" I think you'll find a lot of people DO have Plasmas and LCD's these days, at least a lot of people in my street seem to and it's not like I'm living in Blackrock or anything fancy, just a normal rural suburb full of working class families. I might actually start a poll in the HE forum to see what the % is as I'm kind of curious to know.

    and again you are showing you don't know what you are talking about. How about you give us some examples of the PS3's lack of "gaming power" as you put it?

    Also, the PS3 is now cheaper than the 360 Elite as has been said many times before on this thread. The price argument against the PS3 is no argument at all and it is pointless to keep regurgitating an argument that has been irrelevant for months.

    How about a rebuttal for this (apologies to the rest of the class for repeating myself):

    Naughty Dog have said that Drakes Fortune would not be possible to make on the 360 BUT that the game is only using around a 30% of the potential power of the PS3 and they are already looking at ways of harnessing the extra power available to them, whereas current game development on the 360 is using over 80% of the potential power of the MS console.

    Crytek have also hinted that they are doing a PS3 port of Crysis, which is arguably one of (if not THE) the most graphics and physics intensive games available for the PC that needs both a top end DX10 capable graphics card and a Physx card to do it justice. And all that is going to be coming to the PS3, but they will not be doing a 360 port of it because of "technical reasons".

    Okay Cato, here's your big chance. Show us all some evidence that the PS3 is nothing but an overpriced, underpowered box full of nothing but hype?

    Why don't you show us all something other than an ill informed opinion based on out of date speculation with no evidence?

    I Meant i would prefer HD DVD it makes more sense, not bluray becausemof varios reasons such as extreme copyright measures that limits the scope of the media, and as a consumer i would be more pissed of about this and the ability to do as i wishh with my purchase than sales.

    I never said i wouldent want a plasma/LCD if i came across that way im sorry, infact i would love one but i dont have a grand or two to spare on big hi def tv for my over priced console when i have hidef on my computer moniter and have enjoyed it for years before ps2/3, and were do you live? dublin 4? because i sure as hell dont know anyone with huge tvs like this, maybe my manager at work... but i never thought to ask him.

    for the suposed "cell power" crap they were hyping yes there is a serios lack of gaming power when you factor in this,and i have yet to see or read anything that being vastly suprior as claimed by hype from sony, that article you qouted is rubish as well so many things that have been half arsed claimed/not telling the full story, please how the hell is a ps3 with "cell processor" with inefiecient architecture and its RSX GPU which is just a fancy 7800 is going to compare to a DX10 machine that "needs both a top end DX10 capable graphics card and a Physx card to do it justice", wow if you think that you are going to get the same expirience as a pc that has this please show me a link were it says that, not a link that is written by someone talking out of their arse, i dont have dx10 and a physics card yet i can play high spec minus dx10 and it looks amazing im sure they can dumb it sown for the ps3...

    and i will not provide you with links i dont have to prove anything, i dont make stuff up, you can pull the finger out and google something other than "omfg ps3 is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    feckin fanboys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Cato wrote: »
    feckin fanboys.

    lol


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Cato wrote: »
    I Meant i would prefer HD DVD it makes more sense, not bluray becausemof varios reasons such as extreme copyright measures that limits the scope of the media, and as a consumer i would be more pissed of about this and the ability to do as i wishh with my purchase than sales.

    I never said i wouldent want a plasma/LCD if i came across that way im sorry, infact i would love one but i dont have a grand or two to spare on big hi def tv for my over priced console when i have hidef on my computer moniter and have enjoyed it for years before ps2/3, and were do you live? dublin 4? because i sure as hell dont know anyone with huge tvs like this, maybe my manager at work... but i never thought to ask him.

    for the suposed "cell power" crap they were hyping yes there is a serios lack of gaming power when you factor in this,and i have yet to see or read anything that being vastly suprior as claimed by hype from sony, that article you qouted is rubish as well so many things that have been half arsed claimed/not telling the full story, please how the hell is a ps3 with "cell processor" with inefiecient architecture and its RSX GPU which is just a fancy 7800 is going to compare to a DX10 machine that "needs both a top end DX10 capable graphics card and a Physx card to do it justice", wow if you think that you are going to get the same expirience as a pc that has this please show me a link were it says that, not a link that is written by someone talking out of their arse, i dont have dx10 and a physics card yet i can play high spec minus dx10 and it looks amazing im sure they can dumb it sown for the ps3...

    and i will not provide you with links i dont have to prove anything, i dont make stuff up, you can pull the finger out and google something other than "omfg ps3 is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    feckin fanboys.

    Christ I'm out of breath after reading that! If only I knew what it meant:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Qs


    Cato wrote: »
    and were do you live? dublin 4? because i sure as hell dont know anyone with huge tvs like this, maybe my manager at work... but i never thought to ask him.



    are you serious?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 347 ✭✭Cato


    Qs wrote: »
    are you serious?

    yaaaaaaa deadddly seriosssssss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Cato wrote: »
    I Meant i would prefer HD DVD it makes more sense, not bluray becausemof varios reasons such as extreme copyright measures that limits the scope of the media, and as a consumer i would be more pissed of about this and the ability to do as i wishh with my purchase than sales.

    So the greater storage capacity and the fact that more movie studios will be releasing movies on Blu-Ray doesn't sway you in the slightest no? As for region locking, it didn't stop you from buying DVDs did it?
    Cato wrote: »
    I never said i wouldent want a plasma/LCD if i came across that way im sorry, infact i would love one but i dont have a grand or two to spare on big hi def tv for my over priced console when i have hidef on my computer moniter and have enjoyed it for years before ps2/3, and were do you live? dublin 4? because i sure as hell dont know anyone with huge tvs like this, maybe my manager at work... but i never thought to ask him.

    HD TVs are getting cheaper all the time. There are countless options out there. If you don't want to pay much, you could get a HD Ready TV a lot cheaper.
    Cato wrote: »
    please how the hell is a ps3 with "cell processor" with inefiecient architecture and its RSX GPU which is just a fancy 7800 is going to compare to a DX10 machine that "needs both a top end DX10 capable graphics card and a Physx card to do it justice"
    Cato wrote: »
    i dont have dx10 and a physics card yet i can play high spec minus dx10 and it looks amazing im sure they can dumb it sown for the ps3...

    :confused:
    Cato wrote: »
    and i will not provide you with links i dont have to prove anything, i dont make stuff up, you can pull the finger out and google something other than "omfg ps3 is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    lol
    Cato wrote: »
    feckin fanboys.

    again lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    Cato wrote: »
    yaaaaaaa deadddly seriosssssss

    Most people I know have already upgraded (or are about to)
    I have a 42" Toshiba 1080p screen and I do not have an uber special job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    whiterebel wrote: »
    Christ I'm out of breath after reading that! If only I knew what it meant:confused:
    I can tell you now in one word what it means.

    "nothing"

    he's got so little idea of what he's on about he's convinced he knows what he's saying despite spitting out a random jumble of incoherent (and badly mis-spelled) gibberish.

    And he doesn't have a grand or two to spare for his overpriced console, yet he blew good money on aforementioned console despite the fact he obviously hate it, the company that makes it and anything to do with them.

    Oh and Cato, you could buy a 32" LCD tomorrow for less than €600, you don't need to drop 2k to join the modern world. You could even have got a cheap Aldi 40" LCD for €850 in October last year, they're actually very good.

    You also might want to check out the poll I have in my sig, non-HDTV owners seem to be scandalously short of representation just now, they need you in there to make up the numbers.

    BTW, I live 40 mins outside the M50 with thousands of other people who can't afford to live in Dublin, so that's not quite D4 I'm afraid. We're so poor out here in the bog that we can't even afford postcodes. :(

    BTW2, I have a PS3 and a first gen Xbox sitting side by side under my TV, that's hardly a fanboyish thing to do IMHO.


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