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Track Suit worn all day in Primary on PE day

  • 10-01-2008 1:10pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 12


    Hi all,

    I know it might be a normal thing for the majority of you. But I just took my boy to school today and was told, that the kids come wearing a track suit on the day when they have PE classes.

    I just don't get it. Everywhere else, they change before and after PE. So what if he gets too hot while exercising and sweats and gets ill caught by a draft? Who takes the liability for this? is there nothing about it in H&S regulations? Or do you think I am being paranoid?

    If anyone could comment on this, would be much appreciated.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭derek27


    Children don't perspire the way adults do when they exercise, so there's not likely to be any H&S issue there. Also, it's likely that P.E. classes come at the end of the school day, or very close to it, so the kids get to change when they get home should they wish to do so. I think it's a bit more convenient for all involved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 FoxyCat


    derek27 wrote: »
    Also, it's likely that P.E. classes come at the end of the school day, or very close to it

    If this would be correct, then there would a greater chance for them to get a cold. right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭derek27


    FoxyCat wrote: »
    If this would be correct, then there would a greater chance for them to get a cold. right?

    I don't understand your reasoning for that? Later in the day, it's likely to be warmer. And it makes more sense to have PE at the end of the school day so as to avoid taking a gang of hypearctive children back into a class to try teach them maths or history...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭muckety


    This was brought in to my children's school in recent years, the reason given was that less time is lost in having the pupils change clothes twice in the day, plus there was something about teachers and changing rooms and child protection. I imagine the fact that it is much easier for teachers is another reason!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 323 ✭✭High&Low


    FoxyCat wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I know it might be a normal thing for the majority of you. But I just took my boy to school today and was told, that the kids come wearing a track suit on the day when they have PE classes.

    I just don't get it. Everywhere else, they change before and after PE. So what if he gets too hot while exercising and sweats and gets ill caught by a draft? Who takes the liability for this? is there nothing about it in H&S regulations? Or do you think I am being paranoid?

    If anyone could comment on this, would be much appreciated.

    FoxyCat wrote: »
    If this would be correct, then there would a greater chance for them to get a cold. right?

    You cannot catch a cold from being cold, a cold is a virus passed from one person to another and just happens to be more prevelant during the winter months, probably due to people spending more time inside in a heated, badly ventilated room.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Susannahmia


    Meh we always did this when I was in primary school. Kids don't really sweat much so its not a problem and much less hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,015 ✭✭✭Ludo


    But it does increase the likelyhood of getting a cold as your bodies immune system is weakened. You may already have the virus which your immune system is holding at bay. Then you get cold and boom...immune system cant handle it as the body is using energy to try and keep warm instead of keeping your immune system going at full power.

    Of course you could get pneumonia (sp?) :D

    Having the tracksuit on all day seems sooo much easier though alright...wish we could have done that when I was in school.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    It is the same in my childrens school


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,499 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    FoxyCat wrote: »
    I know it might be a normal thing for the majority of you. But I just took my boy to school today and was told, that the kids come wearing a track suit on the day when they have PE classes.

    I hate this, it means the kids go around looking like skangers-in-training all day (some schools seem to to this all the time. I work near the National Concert Hall and some schools arrive with a busload of kids, for what is definitely NOT a PE-type activity, in trackies - reflects very badly on the school imo.)

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭dame


    ninja900 wrote: »
    I hate this, it means the kids go around looking like skangers-in-training all day (some schools seem to to this all the time. I work near the National Concert Hall and some schools arrive with a busload of kids, for what is definitely NOT a PE-type activity, in trackies - reflects very badly on the school imo.)

    I take it you're a boy and have never been freezing in a scratchy pinafore with kneew-socks or horrible wooly tights on? They're little kids. The comfort and practicality of a tracksuit is exactly what they need.

    OP, the kids'll be fine. Like the others said, kids don't sweat like adults do. If you brought your child out for a run-around at the weekend or to an indoor playground or anywhere like that, would you insist they shower or at least change afterwards? Somehow I doubt it.

    Just be glad the kids are getting a PE class at all. Some schools have a no running in the yard policy so they get no exercise at break-times.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    It is the same in my childrens school

    It's same in nearly every primary school I should imagine for years and I have yet to hear of a case of pneumonia as a result of this.
    The kids don't sweat like teens/adults. Schools try to organise PE to be near the end of the school day as possible.
    You worry far too much.

    It means you don't have to have 1 teacher watch little children getting undressed & showering...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Concorde


    FoxyCat wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I know it might be a normal thing for the majority of you. But I just took my boy to school today and was told, that the kids come wearing a track suit on the day when they have PE classes.

    I just don't get it. Everywhere else, they change before and after PE. So what if he gets too hot while exercising and sweats and gets ill caught by a draft? Who takes the liability for this? is there nothing about it in H&S regulations? Or do you think I am being paranoid?

    If anyone could comment on this, would be much appreciated.
    OMG, this parental paranoia gets worse!
    Why not keep your child in a heated sterilised oxygen bubble???
    So, let me get this, if your child develops influenza are you going to sue the school?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 517 ✭✭✭SarahMc


    During lunch break children are outside chasing each other and running about like mad (in the schools that haven't banned running in the yard!). They do not change after this. Children do not begin to perspire as we know it until pubesence. Thus the reason secondary schools have locker rooms and changing facilities and primaries don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,682 ✭✭✭deisemum


    It's bad enough trying to get children to bring home school jumpers and coats without having to worry about "losing or forgetting" bits of uniform tracksuit as well.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    FoxyCat wrote: »
    So what if he gets too hot while exercising and sweats and gets ill caught by a draft? Who takes the liability for this? is there nothing about it in H&S regulations?.

    Liability for a cold ? Get real. Do you sue yourself if your child gets a cold during the Christmas holidays ?

    It's great for the kids to be wearing their tracksuits on Tracksuit day. Saves them and us hassle and they like to be without a shirt and tie...

    Crikey. What did folk do in the old days....?

    This has to be a troll...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,682 ✭✭✭deisemum


    Back in the 60's and 70's (my childhood era) children only had baths on a Saturday night and we did a hell of a lot of running round back then.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    You were lucky....

    We are cosseting our children and it's wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭undecided


    OP it's normal practise for the schools to insist tracksuit is worn on PE day. Most schools have a school tracksuit and prefer that kids wear a white polo shirt underneath. So it terms of getting hot or cold they sorted- wouldn't worry about it.

    As for being paranoid i'd be more paranoid about if kids were being watched while getting dressed( u know what I mean)!

    remember having into pe gear in school myself hated it but I was in an girls school. Just as well schools have changed their ways my little one wouldn't get changed unless she could lock a door on herself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 rosarosa


    I won't be minding tracksuits myself when the little one goes to school. I thnik, especially for the girls, it's a relief!

    i remember in primary we used to have dresses and white ankle socks (regulation) and you can bet you'd be freezing come winter mornings, although we were allowed to wear blazers and black tights and had an option of the school beret/gloves(I grew up in Namibia and desert morning are a real killer). then in 4th grade, the nuns allowed us to wear trousers and blazers and shirts, but there was some stink from the PTA about us looking like boys, so they introduced tracksuits as well. I was grateful. nothing like falling down and skinning your knees on a windy cold morning to make you hate school dresses.

    the tracksuits also allowed lots more movement like climbing the monkey frame without a teacher asking you to be more careful (about showing your knickers) and the like. I think that for school outings, a more regular outfit could be enforced to make the children look smarter though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,499 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    dame wrote: »
    I take it you're a boy

    I used to be. Though my wife says all men are big boys really...

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    My childs school only has a tracksuit as a uniform, there is nothing to change into, they stay in their regular gear. And the playing field is muddy as hell so I end up washing it all the time.:) But I dont think its an issue in terms of sickness, at least my lil boy doesnt seem affected (yet)

    And a tracky is better than the bloody mini skirt and teeny shorts we used to have to wear for pe in school. You froze your poor, blue legs off and every perv for miles used to come to see us play hockey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 FoxyCat


    I obviously was just wondering. First of all, I came to Ireland just before Christmas. So I am not familiar with the system. And then, when i was little, we always had to change.
    And I also wasn't sure, whether all schools in Ireland have the same policy or just the one we went to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭di11on


    Hmmm...

    So the pros and cons of kids wearing PE gear to school and not changing:

    Pros:
    - Don't have to send kids with PE gear bag
    - No child protection/changing room issues
    - No time lost changing clothes twice
    - Less hassle for teachers
    - Less hassle for parents

    Cons:
    - Possible increased risk of infection
    - Skangers-in-training look

    I think the pros outweight the cons by a long way. I wouldn't have a problem with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭greenkittie


    When i was in primary school we wern't allowed to wear tracksuits for PE just regulation dark green gym knickers with nothing over the top :eek: and a light blue school polo shirt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭Femelade


    Oh My God, i cant believe this is even an issue!!
    So your child has to wear a tracksuit all day..poor child...i mean come on!! so what? Like you said, its the end of the day, they can change at home no?
    Kids get colds, they get sniffles, my god they even get cuts and bruises....it no big deal!!! At the end of the day all of this would only build up your childs immune system..jesus like, its not a life/death situation...
    And for the skangers in training comment..seriously!! unless the kid had a few earings, and smoking in the corner of the playground then that is a ridiculus thing to say..my child has a few tracksuits, does that mean she is a skanger in training??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Concorde


    I think the OP needs to get herself a job or a hobby. She clearly has too much time on her hands.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    The charter for this forum calls for civil posting from everyone.
    Snide remarks about people will be considered personal abuse and people will be banned from them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,579 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    ninja900 wrote: »
    I hate this, it means the kids go around looking like skangers-in-training all day (some schools seem to to this all the time. I work near the National Concert Hall and some schools arrive with a busload of kids, for what is definitely NOT a PE-type activity, in trackies - reflects very badly on the school imo.)
    So you want them all to be "pretty little dahlings"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 422 ✭✭RAFC


    Personally, I love tracksuit day - no buttons to tie on shirts, no tie to wrestle with and as for the school pants with zip and hook thing, don't get me started (the fight in the morning on uniform day):eek:.

    Kids are more comfortable in tracksuits. There are times when a uniform is more appropriate, but mine go to school in tracksuits most days :).

    As for getting a cold, surely it's the same as wearing a tracksuit on Saturday/Sunday - they go out playing, they run around and they come in home again, I don't see a problem there :confused:.

    I LOVE TRACKSUIT DAYS :D:D:D:D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,682 ✭✭✭deisemum


    +1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 FoxyCat


    Concorde wrote: »
    I think the OP needs to get herself a job or a hobby. She clearly has too much time on her hands.

    :) nice, thank you. I have a job 24/7

    My job, plus taking care of a 6y old boy and a 8months old baby, managing the household. And I do have a hobby: photography, handcrafting(knitting), painting, calligraphy, cooking and I also keep spiders :)

    And yes, this is unusual thing for me, therefore I did ask a question. I guess I have the right to get at least a decent answer :)


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    I think that FoxyCat understands how the system works now folks, and that as said the pros outweigh the cons. Moving from another country as FoxyCat as said may mean that such a policy would seem a bit weird etc. so its nice to know whats normal in our mad country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    For the eight years I was in primary school, this is the way that it was.

    I don't remember once being cold or sweaty. In fact, that was a great day, kids love wearing their tracksuits to school.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,044 ✭✭✭gcgirl


    ninja900 wrote: »
    I hate this, it means the kids go around looking like skangers-in-training all day (some schools seem to to this all the time. I work near the National Concert Hall and some schools arrive with a busload of kids, for what is definitely NOT a PE-type activity, in trackies - reflects very badly on the school imo.)


    School outing could have been on pe day we have set days !
    Plus most schools have a set pe uniform! for the school my daughter is in its navy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,662 ✭✭✭Trinity


    RAFC wrote: »
    Personally, I love tracksuit day - no buttons to tie on shirts, no tie to wrestle with and as for the school pants with zip and hook thing, don't get me started (the fight in the morning on uniform day):eek:.

    Kids are more comfortable in tracksuits. There are times when a uniform is more appropriate, but mine go to school in tracksuits most days :).

    As for getting a cold, surely it's the same as wearing a tracksuit on Saturday/Sunday - they go out playing, they run around and they come in home again, I don't see a problem there :confused:.

    I LOVE TRACKSUIT DAYS :D:D:D:D:D

    Amen to that - I love Fridays. Hes dressed in seconds as opposed to god knows how long Monday - Thursday!

    FoxyCat - i think most schools have a uniform and a tracksuit. Most schools i know have their own tracksuits with the school crest on it, and they do not look like skangers in the making by any means they can actually be quite smart. They are just a jersey material and have no brand name. My son's school tracksuit is wine. They were polo shirts underneath so can take off the jumpers if they get too warm. They are very comfortable for the kids.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Concorde


    FoxyCat wrote: »
    :) nice, thank you. I have a job 24/7

    My job, plus taking care of a 6y old boy and a 8months old baby, managing the household. And I do have a hobby: photography, handcrafting(knitting), painting, calligraphy, cooking and I also keep spiders :)

    And yes, this is unusual thing for me, therefore I did ask a question. I guess I have the right to get at least a decent answer :)
    Apologies for bitchy comments. My best friend's a teacher and I get annoyed by some stories she tells me involving parents being petty. (I'm a nurse and I definitely have an easier time). But I'm understanding you better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 Dublinsausage


    This thread is so interesting . I am returning to Ireland with my family. I am a normal family man i think ! ... I didn't get a hand book when my wife gave birth on raising children . I have been away for a number of years and have a question * What is a ''skanger'' ?

    One poster above mentioned about a virus being passed from person to person ! absolutely true . Now all I ask is for that person to go to bed and leave the window open on a cold night 12 stories high and test their theory of person to person . Conclusion a virus is air borne where there is air .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭andyeire


    * What is a ''skanger'' ?



    Scanger or skanger (IPA: [skɑŋəɹ]) (female: howiya) is a derogatory term for a stereotypical member of a youth subculture group in Ireland, similar to the chav in the United Kingdom.

    The stereotypical scanger is said to wear a tracksuit, gold jewellery, a replica football shirt, athletic shoes, tattoos, fake Burberry caps, piercings, is from a working class area, and speaks with an exaggerated accent. Male scangers tend to have cropped (commonly bleached) haircuts and drive cars with loud sound and exhaust systems and can be called boy racers due to their tendency to drive at speed. Pyjamas, bleached-blonde hair and large hoop earrings are popular with howiyas (females). Scangers have a reputation for anti-social behaviour.

    From Wikipedia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 rosarosa


    * What is a ''skanger'' ?

    :D:D:D:D:D

    At last! someone else in my position......I also am unsure (even after all these years) exactly what a "skanger" is.......the other one I'm unsure of is...

    -knacker!....I've heard applied it to travellers, at other times, to the more "colourful" characters in the seedier parts of town...???

    sorry if this is not the right place to mention this , mods, but I just couldn't resist...

    maybe some of the irish people could explain exactly why such terms are used? am curious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 rosarosa


    oh, just seen the reply to skanger........


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 mackydacky07


    Your child would be more likely to catch something by changing. Besides if you wanted to buy a new school tie or pair of shoes every week it could work?!?

    - Wait until they get to secondary school, you will wish they still wore tracksuits


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