westside for skinny basterds 1+2??

PeakOutput

i have part 3 anyone got parts one and two they can mail me?

also if anyone has any major problems with this programme please let me know

cousin_borat

PeakOutput wrote: »

i have part 3 anyone got parts one and two they can mail me?

also if anyone has any major problems with this programme please let me know

Hope this helps
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/archive/articles_westside.htm
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/archive/articles_westside2.htm

PeakOutput

thems the ones thanks man

daveirl

This post has been deleted.

PeakOutput

daveirl wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

1 is the original i think and 2 and 3 are the updates. i have 3 in pdf form tho and it seems to have much more info then those two but i was just looking for the breakdown not the background info as 3 seems to have all that

Arsenal1986

they are more or less the same biggest change is in 2 where he adds another lower body day a |Dynamic effort leg day with box jumps and other plyometrics instead of traditional dynamic squats

celt2005

Second part of your question was problems with westside:

Only why did,nt we all use it earlier !!!!! , Louie Simmons is the top of his field , and breaks down and simplfies powerlifting.

Check out Dave Tate as well

Hanley

Westside hardly simplifies powerlifting... If you don't know what you're doing or don't have someone experienced to turn to then you'll just end up spinning your wheels.

celt2005

I think he breaks down the individual areas, and promotes exercises that can push your PBs up.

I definitely would not recomend new powerlifters to train with Chains / Bands without TP for spotting, and to rein in the natural instinct to go too far , too soon ...

Roper

Just a quick one. I reckon any programme that calls for concerted effort is going to have a good effect, so I don't see what's so special about it.

Hmmm, not very clear there. I mean if you put a skinny man lifting heavy 3 days a week and eating to compensate, I think you'll see results no matter what the programme. For me it's too complex whereas http://www.startingstrength.net/workouts/ is about as simple as it gets and involves everything you need without complicating matters.

Thoughts?

Dragan

The Westside for skinny bastards program was just developed to make "skinny guys big"....thats pretty easy to do with any new trainee.

It was designed to make guys big and FAST.....the one certainty about DeFranco is whatever else he will do for you he will make you fast, and make you balanced.

For me, for a beginner, Starting Strength program as linked to by Roper will be a much better option. IMO.

amazingemmet

The westside for skinny bastards works on a couple of areas at once and is intended as an off season program, So you have two days working on maximum strength, one day working on endurance and the last on acceleration. Also all the movment planes are balanced. Perfect template for an athelte

g'em

Roper wrote: »

I mean if you put a skinny man lifting heavy 3 days a week and eating to compensate, I think you'll see results no matter what the programme.

So, so true. A concept beautiful in its simplicity, yet ignored by too many.


Gawd I'm full of sh!te today.

Hanley

celt2005 wrote: »

I think he breaks down the individual areas, and promotes exercises that can push your PBs up.

I definitely would not recomend new powerlifters to train with Chains / Bands without TP for spotting, and to rein in the natural instinct to go too far , too soon ...

Oh it works, don't get me wrong! People just end up making an ar$e of it cos there's so much information out there about it. And since it's a constantly evolving system, things Louie might have said 2-3 years ago no longer apply, so it looks like there's a lot of contradictory information.

At it's heart, westside is just a heavy day where you strain against weight and follow it up with one or two lifts to build the core lift (supplementary) and accessory work to get yoked. And a fast day where you move moderate weight with max force and follow that by supplementary and accessory work too.

People try to make it too complicated, since complicated is always better apparently and instead of just working hard they try to do all these fancy lifts and play about with bands and chains and just get no where.

I think alot of what is said with Westside makes sense, and I use alot of their principals in my own training, but as a final solution I don't think it's all that it's cracked up to be. I know too many strong ass lifters personally who don't train that way and are still the strongest guys in Ireland, and alot of the top level and world beating european lifters don't train at all like it either.

Roper

amazingemmet wrote: »

The westside for skinny bastards works on a couple of areas at once and is intended as an off season program, So you have two days working on maximum strength, one day working on endurance and the last on acceleration. Also all the movment planes are balanced. Perfect template for an athelte

Hmm, perhaps. But if we're just talking about putting meat on bones like (I think) the OP is I'd take a simpler approach.

amazingemmet

Roper wrote: »

Hmm, perhaps. But if we're just talking about putting meat on bones like (I think) the OP is I'd take a simpler approach.

Completely agree if its literally putting meat on there's alot better and faster ways to do it. I'd only reccomend wsfsb to athletes.

edit: for a quick example to my point try doing box splits with out it hurting

WHIP IT!

amazingemmet wrote: »

Completely agree if its literally putting meat on there's alot better and faster ways to do it. I'd only reccomend wsfsb to athletes.

edit: for a quick example to my point try doing box splits with out it hurting

Not wishing to drag up a dead thread, but I'd just like to add my Recommendation for this programme. I was pointed in its direction by AmazingEmmet on this forum and I made more progress in the six weeks I used this system than in six months working "off the cuff" by myself previously.

As Emmet says, it's perfect for athletes (I did it with GAA in mind) as it works everywhere in proportion. It's not trying to make you a champion powerlifter or champion sprinter - it's improving you everywhere together.

I've made huge improvements in Bench, Squats and Deads since I started it and, being honest, I now look alot better naked!

amazingemmet

I just started the third version this week. Already done ME upper and lower days, doing the DE lower this evening.

WHIP IT!

amazingemmet wrote: »

I just started the third version this week. Already done ME upper and lower days, doing the DE lower this evening.

Best of luck with it, let us know what you think. I wish I'd taken bicep, forearm, leg measurements etc before and after because I'm sure there was significant gains...