Getting to RDS

jph100

hi

whats the best way to get to the RDS from town for the match on saturday?

thanks

zAbbo

Get the Dart to Sandymount, get off, follow the crowd.

Jackz

Town you say? Walk.

Amz

Walk, Dart, myriad of buses.

Check www.dublinbus.ie for example.

Sandwich

Maybach with Garda escort.

Ensure they have cleared the route for you before you leave town so that there is no danger of any holdups.

Worrytahs

DART to Lansdowne rd or Sandymount.
Or better still walk it (weather permitting)

RuggieBear

Sandwich wrote: »

Maybach with Garda escort.

Ensure they have cleared the route for you before you leave town so that there is no danger of any holdups.

LOL

dc69

why is this match getting no media coverage?i mean i have heard munster news all week ie who will play and how they are training etc but nothing has been said about the leinster match at all?

RuggieBear

media don't love us and we are out.

Shan75

dc69 wrote: »

why is this match getting no media coverage?i mean i have heard munster news all week ie who will play and how they are training etc but nothing has been said about the leinster match at all?

Don't knock it.You get sick of hearing about Munster this and Munster that.It's not just Irish tv either.Sky are just as bad.For the record I am a Munster supporter but it all gets a bit tedious at times.You'd swear we have been transported to USA and were contesting the Super Bowl the way they go on about it.


Plus of course the matter that Munster can still make the quarter finals and Leinster are presumably gone.

Zzippy

dc69 wrote: »

why is this match getting no media coverage?i mean i have heard munster news all week ie who will play and how they are training etc but nothing has been said about the leinster match at all?

Try being a Connacht supporter!

grames_bond

Shan75 wrote: »

For the record I am a Munster supporter...

are you a true munster supporter? (aka from munster) im from dublin, (a leinster supporter obviously) i cant tell you how annoying it is, goin to a leinster vs munster match and hearin the inner city dublin kids wearing the red and chantin "bleedin leinster scum"

so tempted to go "what part of munster are you from?"

the normal reply: "tallaght"

daveirl

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dc69

daveirl wrote: »

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that post was me and i said i was drunk and angry when ranting and apologised,you should re read the post before paraphrasing wrongly.but even at that your post makes little or no sence?what has alienation got to do with getting to the rds or why munster get more media coverage then leinster?

I never said we are the richest so should be the best.in my drunken rant i was trying to understand how munster can afford better players than leinster,i never said we should be the best cause we are the richest,I was frustrated as to munster buying howlett who is quality and we are buying other clubs rejects who just want a quick buck.if leinster have better attendances and probably charge more for tickets how can we not be buying quality ,anyway i apologise again,i am not that ignorant when sober and came across as an asshole.

daveirl

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dc69

daveirl wrote: »

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your post makes perfect sence then,sorry.who own the irish provincial sides,are they privately owned?or do the irfu own them?

Shan75

grames_bond wrote: »

are you a true munster supporter? (aka from munster) im from dublin, (a leinster supporter obviously) i cant tell you how annoying it is, goin to a leinster vs munster match and hearin the inner city dublin kids wearing the red and chantin "bleedin leinster scum"

so tempted to go "what part of munster are you from?"

the normal reply: "tallaght"

Just to say I am from Limerick and I do not consider anybody from outside the province to be a Munster supporter.Maybe I am old fashioned but the whole reason for supporting your province is because that's where from.You wouldn't support a different country over your own and this is more or less the same.It also annoys me to hear about these Dublin kids thinking they are Munster supporters.They really are quite sad.I think people have formed a false impression of the typical Leinster fan which is not helping.The kids need to go to the games and not believe all the stereotypes.I was at the Leinster V Gloucester game in Lansdowne Road in 2006 and found the crowd to be every bit as passionate and vocal as the Munster crowd.It just doesn't come across as well in a bigger stadium.Also contrary to popular belief we have our fair share of clowns and social spectators who are every bit as bad as their D4 counterparts.

Also like to say that I think Munster are probably better at the whole marketing thing and it is the Branch which must come up with the wages to attract the top overseas players even though they are all owned by the IRFU.

phog

dc69 wrote: »

why is this match getting no media coverage?i mean i have heard munster news all week ie who will play and how they are training etc but nothing has been said about the leinster match at all?

I think a lot of the Munster media stuff at the moment is the arrival of Howlett and return from injury of O'Connell and Quinlan - this gives Kidney so many options for the team that people are talking about it. Leinster have such a settled team it doesn't warrant the same coverage and has been said elsewhere they are all but out of it while Munster still have a chance to get a QF spot.

phog

grames_bond wrote: »

are you a true munster supporter? (aka from munster) im from dublin, (a leinster supporter obviously) i cant tell you how annoying it is, goin to a leinster vs munster match and hearin the inner city dublin kids wearing the red and chantin "bleedin leinster scum"

so tempted to go "what part of munster are you from?"

the normal reply: "tallaght"

Couldn't someone born and living in Leinster but with parent/s from Munster decide to support Munster - I'd see nothing wrong with it. How many kids of ex-pats support Ireland Teams.

dc69

Shan75 wrote: »

Just to say I am from Limerick and I do not consider anybody from outside the province to be a Munster supporter.Maybe I am old fashioned but the whole reason for supporting your province is because that's where from.You wouldn't support a different country over your own and this is more or less the same.It also annoys me to hear about these Dublin kids thinking they are Munster supporters.They really are quite sad.I think people have formed a false impression of the typical Leinster fan which is not helping.The kids need to go to the games and not believe all the stereotypes.I was at the Leinster V Gloucester game in Lansdowne Road in 2006 and found the crowd to be every bit as passionate and vocal as the Munster crowd.It just doesn't come across as well in a bigger stadium.Also contrary to popular belief we have our fair share of clowns and social spectators who are every bit as bad as their D4 counterparts.

Also like to say that I think Munster are probably better at the whole marketing thing and it is the Branch which must come up with the wages to attract the top overseas players even though they are all owned by the IRFU.

i completely agree,although i have been to loads of leinster munster matches and have never seen dublin kids wearing munster shirts calling leinster scum lol.

I agree with supporting your own provinces ie if leinster get knocked out,i wont support munster and im sure alot of munster fans would be the same.

daveirl

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grames_bond

Shan75 wrote: »

Just to say I am from Limerick and I do not consider anybody from outside the province to be a Munster supporter.Maybe I am old fashioned but the whole reason for supporting your province is because that's where from.

i completely agree, i think its rediculous seeing people from dublin with munster jerseys etc! and phog, i dont mind if people have parents from munster as thats the way you were brought up, but trust me the only bit of munster in these supporters was the scarf around their neck!

Shan75 wrote: »

I was at the Leinster V Gloucester game in Lansdowne Road in 2006 and found the crowd to be every bit as passionate and vocal as the Munster crowd.

i was at that match too, i had really **** seats but the crowd were still incredibly vocal and the atmosphere was amazing!

Shan75

dc69 wrote: »

i completely agree,although i have been to loads of leinster munster matches and have never seen dublin kids wearing munster shirts calling leinster scum lol.

I agree with supporting your own provinces ie if leinster get knocked out,i wont support munster and im sure alot of munster fans would be the same.

I wouldn't quite agree and I probably didn't make my point clear.If Munster were out I would be cheering for any Irish province that were still involved.I wouldn't however be going around with flags, scarves etc.The night I was in Lansdowne I was cheering almost as loudly as the Leinster supporters.I would hardly cheer for an English team against an Irish one.

jph100

so to recap on all thats been said..... the dart to sandymount is the best option!?

dc69

daveirl wrote: »

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why?im not a munster supporter, if leinster are out i couldnt give a **** who wins and would probably prefer munster not to win,so I wouldnt get a constant torrent of munster supporters bragging for the following year and more.although im sure if leinster won we would be bragging just as much but thats just the way i feel.

jph100 wrote: »

so to recap on all thats been said..... the dart to sandymount is the best option!?

yep,you will find your way no problem,just follow the crowds

grames_bond

jph100 wrote: »

so to recap on all thats been said..... the dart to sandymount is the best option!?

yep, get out at sandymount take a right and head straight for about 2 minutes, you cannot miss it!

Worrytahs

Shan75 wrote: »

Just to say I am from Limerick and I do not consider anybody from outside the province to be a Munster supporter.Maybe I am old fashioned but the whole reason for supporting your province is because that's where from.You wouldn't support a different country over your own and this is more or less the same.It also annoys me to hear about these Dublin kids thinking they are Munster supporters.They really are quite sad.I think people have formed a false impression of the typical Leinster fan which is not helping.The kids need to go to the games and not believe all the stereotypes.I was at the Leinster V Gloucester game in Lansdowne Road in 2006 and found the crowd to be every bit as passionate and vocal as the Munster crowd.It just doesn't come across as well in a bigger stadium.Also contrary to popular belief we have our fair share of clowns and social spectators who are every bit as bad as their D4 counterparts.

Also like to say that I think Munster are probably better at the whole marketing thing and it is the Branch which must come up with the wages to attract the top overseas players even though they are all owned by the IRFU.

Nothing wrong with getting behind any of the Irish provinces that you might not hail from yourself. The aim of the game after all is a strong national side. Convenient tribalists tend to forget the pecking order of Country <- Province <- Club.
As long as its a player's aim to make the grade and get on the national side then in my view, this pecking order supercedes any soccer-style rivalry betwen club or province.
Every team has their share of one-eyed numpties or fairweather 'supporters' in the crowds. Just the way it is. And its not exclusive to rugby union either.

Worrytahs

grames_bond wrote: »

yep, get out at sandymount take a right and head straight for about 2 minutes, you cannot miss it!

Or get out at Lansdowne and have a peek at the work in progress

jph100

thanks all for the help.ill get the dart.

to throw in my 2 cents into the topic that developed in this thread, i myself wud shout for any other irish province if leinster were knocked out.

Crash

Preference for me these days goes:

Leinster - Connacht - Munster - Ulster

daveirl

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Shan75

Worrytahs wrote: »

Nothing wrong with getting behind any of the Irish provinces that you might not hail from yourself. The aim of the game after all is a strong national side. Convenient tribalists tend to forget the pecking order of Country <- Province <- Club.
As long as its a player's aim to make the grade and get on the national side then in my view, this pecking order supercedes any soccer-style rivalry betwen club or province.
Every team has their share of one-eyed numpties or fairweather 'supporters' in the crowds. Just the way it is. And its not exclusive to rugby union either.

Because the teams are drawn on a provincial level it would seem natural that you would support the team from your own area first and then the remaining Irish Provinces.I believe you should have more affinity for the team in your locality made up mainly of people from your region.As I said there is a huge similarity with National teams and most people would not support another country over their own.After that it would seem natural to support the other teams from your country.I am a Shannon supporter and on the unusual occasion that they don't win the AIL I always hope one of the other Limerick teams win.I don't subscribe to this soccer style hatred of your nearest neighbours.On the pecking order of Country-Province-Club you are correct but when I am watching the Munster game on Sunday the Six Nations will not be on my mind for a second and I'd imagine and hope the players feel the same so on this day Province becomes the top priority.

Paulw

jph100 wrote: »

so to recap on all thats been said..... the dart to sandymount is the best option!?

Or get the 7/45 bus from O'Connell St to the RDS (there are 3 stops you can use). Just keep an eye out for all the pubs, the RDS and all the supporters.

I think there are a few more busses too, but 7 and 45 definitely go by the RDS.

toomevara

dc69 wrote: »

why?im not a munster supporter, if leinster are out i couldnt give a **** who wins

Bah Humbug! Dyed in the wool Munster man. But I love to see Leinster and their players doing well in the Heineken or any competition. Massive respect for them and the only time I wouldn't shout for Leinster against any opposition is if the opposing team are Munster.

Very churlish attitude, and if I may say so, generally 'soccerish' approach to rugby. No need for it....Most genuine Munster fans of my acquaintance feel the same...

toomevara

Shan75 wrote: »

Just to say I am from Limerick and I do not consider anybody from outside the province to be a Munster supporter.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, where Munster is a professionally run business and teams like Munster seek to become a brand not rooted in mere geographical location but by allowing and encouraging people to identify with them because of the pride and passion they display and they way they play rugby......

This kind of limited curiously Irish style parochialism has no place in modern professional sport. If you're from Bora-Bora and something about the way Munster play rugby or do business fires you up and gets you involved, more power to you and more power to Munster.

The current Munster team is rammed full of players who never heard of Limerick or for that matter Ireland before they got involved. Some of its greatest players come from half way round the world..Jim Williams anyone??? If they're good enough to pull on the shirt and sweat blood and tears for Munster rugby then anyone else who genuinely wants to be part of the Munster rugby phenomenon, and it is a phenomenon, is more than welcome. Thats what makes clubs great.

So every Celtic supporter not from the greater Glasgow area isn't 'real' Celtic, every passionate Irish Manchester United/ Liverpool supporter doesn't really qualify!! Come on wake up and smell the coffee. Munster rugby, needs to attract support, investment and money from more areas than a small province of Ireland if its to flourish against the big boys in England and France with their rich sugar daddies and lucrative state sponsorship. Munster the Manchester united or Liverpool of rugby..why not....????

Ulstermell0

dc69 wrote: »

why?im not a munster supporter, if leinster are out i couldnt give a **** who wins and would probably prefer munster not to win,so I wouldnt get a constant torrent of munster supporters bragging for the following year and more.although im sure if leinster won we would be bragging just as much but thats just the way i feel.

i want all the provinces to do well in europe - if for no other reason than the fact it is beneficial to the national side in terms of confidence, momentum and even financially.

although it has to be said i don't have a full appreciation of the Leintser - Munster rivallry

JWAD

Shan75 wrote: »

so on this day Province becomes the top priority.

And in the broader picture these Provinces are feeders to the national side therefore anyone from any province can go support anyone they flippin well want.
The rivalry between supporters is hilarious as all they do is sit there screaming at a referee.
As Jerry Seinfeld says "You didn't win. They did. You sat on your ass eating hot dogs and drinking beer"

zAbbo

I've no problem cheering on any of the other provinces, Yes there's strong rivalary, but if Leinster drop out of the HC, I'll be cheering on Munster, and Connacht for the Challenge Cup.

Strangely enough, the province I'm from (Ulster) is the one I can least identify with.

Shan75

toomevara wrote: »

Meanwhile, back in the real world, where Munster is a professionally run business and teams like Munster seek to become a brand not rooted in mere geographical location but by allowing and encouraging people to identify with them because of the pride and passion they display and they way they play rugby......

This kind of limited curiously Irish style parochialism has no place in modern professional sport. If you're from Bora-Bora and something about the way Munster play rugby or do business fires you up and gets you involved, more power to you and more power to Munster.

The current Munster team is rammed full of players who never heard of Limerick or for that matter Ireland before they got involved. Some of its greatest players come from half way round the world..Jim Williams anyone??? If they're good enough to pull on the shirt and sweat blood and tears for Munster rugby then anyone else who genuinely wants to be part of the Munster rugby phenomenon, and it is a phenomenon, is more than welcome. Thats what makes clubs great.

So every Celtic supporter not from the greater Glasgow area isn't 'real' Celtic, every passionate Irish Manchester United/ Liverpool supporter doesn't really qualify!! Come on wake up and smell the coffee. Munster rugby, needs to attract support, investment and money from more areas than a small province of Ireland if its to flourish against the big boys in England and France with their rich sugar daddies and lucrative state sponsorship. Munster the Manchester united or Liverpool of rugby..why not....????

I think you are missing the point.If people from outside Munster want to spend their money on Munster merchandise that's their choice and it helps Munster financially.They are not not Munster supporters in the traditional sense though as they have no connection to the place.I also do not think that Irish people are real supporters of British soccer teams.They also have no connection to the community where these teams were born.They watch these teams and hope they win but it is not really in their blood.It won't mean as much to them as the real supporters.I take your point about the need for investment etc but I suppose I still like to think that sport means more than just money creation.In the end though there will be no real supporters, just people who follow the biggest clubs and this is a shame.

dc69

thats stupid,im sure their are people from connaught ,leinster and ulster that go to every munster game and probably follow the team everywhere they go,how are they any less of a fan than you

toomevara

Shan75 wrote: »

I think you are missing the point.If people from outside Munster want to spend their money on Munster merchandise that's their choice and it helps Munster financially.They are not not Munster supporters in the traditional sense though as they have no connection to the place.I also do not think that Irish people are real supporters of British soccer teams.They also have no connection to the community where these teams were born.They watch these teams and hope they win but it is not really in their blood.It won't mean as much to them as the real supporters.I take your point about the need for investment etc but I suppose I still like to think that sport means more than just money creation.In the end though there will be no real supporters, just people who follow the biggest clubs and this is a shame.

I'd have to completely disagree with you shan75, i think your position is untenable and illogical here. To judge someones right to be considered a 'real' supporter (whatever that means), by accident of birth is, with all due respect, nonsense.

I'm a Munster man, born and bred, but I live in leeds and support both union and league codes here. I'm a season ticket holder with the leeds rhinos and regard myself as a fanatical supporter. Thankfully I've never had my bone fides questioned by anyone from Leeds as a result of my accent or the fact that I'm not 'from' here. Thank God people aren't that blinkered or small minded around here. It's when I get involved in silly debates like this with Irish people that I'm reminded of why I left the place...sigh....

Oh and I also support London Irish when given the chance and the Yorkshire cricket team....and no I'm not from London or Yorkshire either, doesn't lesson the fervour of my support..

RuggieBear

toomevara wrote: »

Yorkshire either, doesn't lesson the fervour of my support..

Even if until very recently you would not have been allowed play for the team you support due to an accident of birth?:D

toomevara

RuggieBear wrote: »

Even if until very recently you would not have been allowed play for the team you support due to an accident of birth?:D

Bugger!...but somehow I don't the the YCC missed much...

RuggieBear

toomevara wrote: »

Bugger!...but somehow I don't the the YCC missed much...

They might not have dropped the rule for you but they certainly did for Sachin Tendulkar!

Shan75

toomevara wrote: »

I'd have to completely disagree with you shan75, i think your position is untenable and illogical here. To judge someones right to be considered a 'real' supporter (whatever that means), by accident of birth is, with all due respect, nonsense.

I'm a Munster man, born and bred, but I live in leeds and support both union and league codes here. I'm a season ticket holder with the leeds rhinos and regard myself as a fanatical supporter. Thankfully I've never had my bone fides questioned by anyone from Leeds as a result of my accent or the fact that I'm not 'from' here. Thank God people aren't that blinkered or small minded around here. It's when I get involved in silly debates like this with Irish people that I'm reminded of why I left the place...sigh....

Oh and I also support London Irish when given the chance and the Yorkshire cricket team....and no I'm not from London or Yorkshire either, doesn't lesson the fervour of my support..

You really are not hearing me are you?I said people who have no connection to the place.I am not talking about where somebody was born.That doesn't matter.Where you live does.I am a fan of Leeds Utd Football Club since the 1980's and I also have a liking for Barcelona FC.When I am watching Leeds on the tv(Although that is not too often these days) I shout and cheer and am disappointed if they lose but I don't actually have any connection to the place or the people of Leeds and I am sure it means more to them than me.But the one thing here is I am a fan out of choice whereas when it comes to Munster I am a fan because that is where I am from.You don't decide to support your local team.That happens because of history and tradition and community spirit etc and because of that reason I believe it means more to you.I don't think anything I have said makes me blinkered or small minded.Quite the opposite in fact.It's quite simple to understand what I am saying and you have even proven the point yourself although this seems to have escaped you so I will illustrate it for you----You are living in Leeds which is in Yorkshire and you support Leeds Rhinos,Leeds Carnegie and Yorkshire Cricket Club.Now you could have said you support Leicester Tigers,Leicester City FC and Warwickshire CC but they wouldn't have meant the same to you.I'm not trying to be an ass here.I am simply saying I do not believe you can be a part of the collective spirit of a club from far away.You can support any club you like but it will always mean more to the people living in the area where the club is based.I think the London Irish thing is a moot point as lots of Irish people feel some kind of affection for the club for obvious reasons.

High&Low

I am a Leinster supporter and not a Munster supporter, however I was pleased (to a point) to see them winning the Heineken cup.

The provincial teams are no longer representing the provinces, they are clubs, look at all the foreign imports.

In my opinion expecting a Leinster supporter to support Munster would almost be that same as expecting a Man Utd fan to cheer for Liverpool in the Champions League final.

Steffano2002

Well, I'm a Toulouse supporter and I hope we hockey Leinster off the pitch tomorrow!

However, I have a question: I have to meet all my "French friends from the South-West of France, living in Dublin and proudly supporting Toulouse" in a pub called "Bellamys". I don't know the South side at all so I haven't got a clue where that is!

Is it one of the pubs facing the main RDS entrance, on the left hand side after the going over the bridge when coming from town?

Cheers lads!

Amz

God, I've never heard of that place. Sorry Steffano.

Good to see you back though.

I had to sell my ticket for the game as I've family stuff on. Gutted

Steffano2002

Amz wrote: »

God, I've never heard of that place. Sorry Steffano.

Good to see you back though.

I had to sell my ticket for the game as I've family stuff on. Gutted

Hi Amz! Can't believe you'll miss it... Don't you just hate family stuff?

It could be a very entertaining game! Hope you'll see it on TV at leats!

I found Bellamys location anyway... Yes, Google Maps IS my friend! :rolleyes:

Amz

Steffano2002 wrote: »

Hi Amz! Can't believe you'll miss it... Don't you just hate family stuff?

It could be a very entertaining game! Hope you'll see it on TV at leats!

I found Bellamys location anyway... Yes, Google Maps IS my friend! :rolleyes:

I wouldn't mind, but I'd my ticket before family stuff was mentioned.

Will miss all TV coverage too

Glad you found the place.

Enjoy the game, but not too much

Steffano2002

Tough break there Amz...

As a result of this set back, I hope your team wins*!

*As long as you support Toulouse of course...