Galaxy MP7 Review Discussion

Fallschirmjager

actually boston, my hicap is also kak...doesnt wind properly...unwinds...very impressed with the mp7 tho

Boston

Edited to add data on battery.

Fallschirmjager wrote:

actually boston, my hicap is also kak...doesnt wind properly...unwinds...very impressed with the mp7 tho

Exactly, the spring in the hi-cap was mess up from the go with me, didn't wind at all. far more impressed with the simplicity of the low/real cap.

iceage

cool review guys, got one coming from T. have to look at those mags though, doesn't sound too good really, i know T has well mags, wonder do they fit?

funny when i received my mp5 k (galaxy) the hi cap would'nt wind properly, pulled it asunder and found a nut that was sliding out of the centre of the main wheel, put it back, all workd ok after that, wonder if thats any help? are the mags the same "set up" though as a 5k??


Boston what is the charging tiime for that battery? need to know as i have a habit of over charging them

Boston

iceage wrote:

funny when i received my mp5 k (galaxy) the hi cap would'nt wind properly, pulled it asunder and found a nut that was sliding out of the centre of the main wheel, put it back, all workd ok after that, wonder if thats any help? are the mags the same "set up" though as a 5k??

No idea. I'll have my Galaxy mp7 with me at HRTA this saturday (one of the lads will point me out) so if someone here has a well we can test it out.

Fallschirmjager

and i have midcaps on the way from ehobby, mag ones i think...so i am hoping they will work, if they do i will let you know...they should but then again i have quite a few mags that 'should' fit but dont...


and i have one other question...

i would like to get rid of the charger....anyone know which cable is positive and negative or in my thicko langage which is red or black. i was thinking of leaving the battery housing, cutting the cable and attaching it to my normal charger...

ambro25

Usually, white/black is pos and black-only is neg*

*responsibility for any exploding chargers/batteries is entirely, absolutely and comprehensively not accepted by the poster

Boston

Fallschirmjager wrote:

and i have midcaps on the way from ehobby, mag ones i think...so i am hoping they will work, if they do i will let you know...they should but then again i have quite a few mags that 'should' fit but dont...


and i have one other question...

I would like to get rid of the charger....anyone know which cable is positive and negative or in my thicko langage which is red or black. i was thinking of leaving the battery housing, cutting the cable and attaching it to my normal charger...

Polarity shouldn't matter (don't quote me on that) . Current and step down voltage will, I think the battery is 8.5 volts and I've no idea what the current is, but the lower the longer the live of the battery, certainly nothing more then 10 amps.

ED E

WRONG! Polarity Matters. With Motors it doesnt,(Will just run in reverse) but it will blow a batterie if charged in reverse!:eek:

Boston

Ok, I don't know what I was thinking, polarity matters in Li-Ion batteries. For what ever reason I just decided the moter would run backwards. No more posting by me when wrecked.

NakedDex

I've ordered a "nearly new" TM MP7 today so I'll do a review on it when I get it. I didn't realise the MP7 had become so popular though. Does everyone have one now! Is the MP7 the new armalite?

Fallschirmjager

well the cables on my charger for the galaxy mp7 at least is all black which is the same for the TM one as well as it happens. so i guess i will have to do the old googley thing there on how to do it.

well on the mp7 becoming the new armalite, i think ambro said it best. since the fps is lowish, paul might be more willing to let us go full auto on cqb...however mine seems faster then 215 and i know i would not want to be on the receiving end...and since winter is approaching (er, approaching?) we may wind up in hrta doing more indoors then outside.

finally, lets be honest, the mp7 looks cool...

ambro25

Fallschirmjager wrote:

well the cables on my charger for the galaxy mp7 at least is all black

They shouldn't be - one of them should have some form of indication (dotted grey or white line) to differentiate the respective polarities.

Fallschirmjager wrote:

since the fps is lowish, paul might be more willing to let us go full auto on cqb (...)
since winter is approaching we may wind up in hrta doing more indoors then outside.

Which are the 2 main reasons why I've gotten mine

Can't see it becoming the new Armalite, though - it's not versatile enough, by a very long stretch.

So long as you're focusing upon the airsoft version, and the limited power of any TM/clone version (which is limited by design constraints: namely, the size of the original, so there's no way around it), you realise that it's only good for 2 things: CQB and backup (God, how I needed that last Saturday, LOL!)

Given that a pistol or Galaxy's own MP5 series are just as good for backup (if not better re. size/weight of pistol, ROF and FPS of the MP5 series, relative to the MP7), that pretty much narrows it down to CQB.

Therefore, I'd venture that the 'average' airsofter looking to buy an MP7 considers two variables only: attraction to the thing itself (so the 'cool' factor, or for collecting purposes) and/or suitability for CQB use.

[OnTopic] I've taken my flashhider off, and I think it kinda looks better without it. Somehow more 'futuristic'. Battery's charging now, can't wait to give it a spray tonight

ED E

Will know at about 1 tommorow if I'm getting one!

ambro25

Good luck with that Lethal

Charged the battery today - the charger has a red light, which dims progressively (bright > dim) as the battery gets charged.

For the record, mine straight-out-the-box took from 08:00 to 16:30... and I've now fired it tonight for the first time...

AND IT'S F*CKING AWESOME!!!

Echoing Boston in his review, that thing shoots
_ good (no misfeeds from the real cap at all),
_ loud (oh yeah, can't wait to hear this in the CQB section at HRTA - yeah, definitely louder than my DBoys M4 as well),
_ straight as an arrow (more precise than my DBoys M4 out-the-box at same distance, not even touched the hopup! 10 meters very easy, I'd still expect very decent groupings at twice that)
_ and rather strong (wouldn't be surprised one bit, if we're quite a way beyond the 215 FPS announced)

ROF not that bad at all, I can very happily live with it (about 5 shots/sec).

But the hi-cap is indeed FUBAR, gonna have to find out how to perform surgery on that (same as ye, Boston, BBs pass into the feed well of the mag but spring doesn't bring them up).

So, save as to the hi-cap, a most happy camper here

iceage

are you saying you charged the batt. for 8.5 hours??

Boston

Well it didn't take mine that long

iceage

O.k. how long did you charge your battery for Boston? I really don't want to boil it as I did to my m4a1 battery(had to wait 2-3wks for replacements) Ambro 25 reckons his was on charge ffrom 08.00 to 16.30, I count 8 hours?? seems a lot. so curious how long you left yours on charge, cos i ain't boiling another one!!:eek:

Boston

about half that. A back emf starts forming as the battery becomes more and more charged which acts as a resistance to the charging which is why i suspect the led dims. its probably a good idea to charge it for 8 or so hours out if the box, but I wouldn't be doing that everytime. Others know more about batteries then me but afaik theres no memory effect you don't have to push it to max.

Actually, when I get back to college I've access to alot of equipment so I'll run afew tests on the battery and post up how charged it @ various times, they will be handy for everyone.

cpb

Lads I bought this and it does away with all the guess work http://www.strikalite.co.uk/prodcat_type/21/Charger/0/Airsoft_Gun_Packs.html shipping worked out at €12.50 and it is working fine

Fallschirmjager

fellow mp7ers

just got the MAG mp7 mid caps (100rds) from ehobby. I can conform they work like a charm!!!

fit is excellent, feed is excellent....100 rounds of sheer joy....get rid of those hicap crappers from galaxy...

Boston

we're kinda stuff with the provided charger due to battery shape and connector.

ambro25

Thx for that Falls, will be ordering soonish.

Re. charging time - longest charge out-of-the-box, then much shorter charges pre-HRTA attendance. Hasn't failed me yet.

Just gotta get me some o'them cheapo

laser

and torch from BFSL/Rsov/eHobby now

Might give a go to skirmishing shottie + MP7, instead of M4A1+shottie or M4+MP7 (got my eye on some 2ndhand TM over at Arnies )

Fallschirmjager

Boston wrote:

we're kinda stuff with the provided charger due to battery shape and connector.

boston, exactly the same issue with the TM one...they have this 'charger' tingy going on as well...pain in the knackers tbh...

Boston

Thanks for the Update on the mags Fall, will try and get some of those off shiva (had enough of internet buying for the moment)

Ambros, I figure I'll go for a stupidly oversized scope. Should look class.

kdouglas

afair, the battery/charger is the same as the type used for the AEPs???
i just snipped the wires on the plug end of the charger and plug them directly into my tlp pro charger, works like a charm

Fallschirmjager

kdouglas wrote:

afair, the battery/charger is the same as the type used for the AEPs???
i just snipped the wires on the plug end of the charger and plug them directly into my tlp pro charger, works like a charm

kd, how did you find out which was positive and which was negative? because that is exactly what i want to do...

ambro25

Boston wrote:

Ambros, I figure I'll go for a stupidly oversized scope. Should look class.

Mind you, I do have that spare M4 carry handle about, std 20mm mountings... hmmm

Boston

Fallschirmjager wrote:

kd, how did you find out which was positive and which was negative? because that is exactly what i want to do...

Technically you could use a phrase tester to determine within the charger which side is positive and negative. Then cut your wires make your new connection, test out which side inside the charger is positive and if its the same the polarity is the same, if not reverse your connection. So for instance, from what i recall, there or two contact points at the top of the battery and two at the bottom for charging and discharging, find out which are anodes and which are cathodes and you're in business.

kdouglas

Fallschirmjager wrote:

kd, how did you find out which was positive and which was negative? because that is exactly what i want to do...

i tested it with a multimeter, from what i remember, the one with the white stripe is positive, but i havent used my glock AEP in a while so ill check it out later and confirm

iceage

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee101/iceage10/mags001.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee101/iceage10/mags002.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee101/iceage10/mags003.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee101/iceage10/mags004.jpg

Heres a clue as to why the mags don't wind, notice anything missing?

Gonna have to ask Shiva why all the 7's seem to have a problem with the hi cap, I bet if we all checked we'd find the same screw/washer/spring missing.....

ED E

Will be collecting one friday/saturday if that suits shiva. BTW, do you have any mags?

Boston

iceage wrote:

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee101/iceage10/mags001.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee101/iceage10/mags002.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee101/iceage10/mags003.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee101/iceage10/mags004.jpg

Heres a clue as to why the mags don't wind, notice anything missing?

Gonna have to ask Shiva why all the 7's seem to have a problem with the hi cap, I bet if we all checked we'd find the same screw/washer/spring missing.....

Well Shiva just a retailer, its down to galaxy. There is a spring in mine, but its completely fubar.

ambro25

Boston wrote:

Well Shiva just a retailer, its down to galaxy.

Erm... not wanting to appear acrimonious or start anything, but

[friendly]

we (well, I at least) bought the MP7 and stuff from Eirsoft, not from Galaxy.

I'd say it's up to Eirsoft to sort the faulty mags story with Galaxy (and/or his supplier), and provide us with a solution, i.e. a replacement working mag (I'll settle for a low or midcap, mind ).

Also makes me wonder if that's the reason why Rsov took them offline for a while.

[/friendly]

Shiva

I sold it, its my problem.
I'm waiting to hear whats happening, but it might take a week or so.
If I can get replacement mags I'll replace the faulty ones, if not, anyone who isnt happy with the MP7 can return it to me for a full refund.

ambro25 wrote:

Erm... not wanting to appear acrimonious or start anything, but

[friendly]

we (well, I at least) bought the MP7 and stuff from Eirsoft, not from Galaxy.

I'd say it's up to Eirsoft to sort the faulty mags story with Galaxy (and/or his supplier), and provide us with a solution, i.e. a replacement working mag (I'll settle for a low or midcap, mind ).

Also makes me wonder if that's the reason why Rsov took them offline for a while.

[/friendly]

Boston

I'm kinda of the opinion that when you buy a clone you take your chances. Of all the things that could have been wrong, this is really minor, and shiva made no claim to test out the guns prior to use. He should probably let people know about the problem from now on or stop stocking the gun until galaxy fix the problem.

edited for shiva's post. The gun is great, theres no way i'll ever give it back, but replacement mag would be fine.

ambro25

Boston wrote:

Of all the things that could have been wrong, this is really minor. He should probably let people know about the problem from now on or stop stocking the gun until galaxy fix the problem.

The gun is great, theres no way i'll ever give it back, but replacement mag would be fine.

All agreed with, entirely.

Shiva wrote:

I'm waiting to hear whats happening, but it might take a week or so.

If I can get replacement mags I'll replace the faulty ones, if not, anyone who isnt happy with the MP7 can return it to me for a full refund.

No rush and don't worry, as Boston said it's a fantastic piece of kit and a really minor gripe.

Solving the gripe would only add to your (already immense) kudos, but even if nothing ends up being done about it, I'm not about to give out for a faulty clone hicap

iceage

Whole heartedly agree with the lads, nice piece of kit, don't want to give it up Shiva, but would appreciate a replacement mag for the faulty one..do you want us to return said faulty mag?? can't ask for better than that for customer service:)

Shiva

ambro25 wrote:

Solving the gripe would only add to your (already immense) kudos, but even if nothing ends up being done about it, I'm not about to give out for a faulty clone hicap

I have some Wellfire MP7 mags - I dont have any Galaxy's left to test them on, but if I'm at HRTA on Saturday and someone has a Galaxy there I'll check them out. If they work I'll replace the Galaxy mags with them.

If not, I'll get something sorted with the supplier.

Fallschirmjager

ambro25 wrote:

They shouldn't be - one of them should have some form of indication (dotted grey or white line) to differentiate the respective polarities.

in case anyone wants to know...i was wrong one of the cables is white (well sort of)...this is the positive or red on your big charger, the black cable is well..black...or negative

so cut the cable and attach to your real chargers..on mine i can attach without a power cable into the wall and it shows when i have inserted the battery correctly...

Boston

Shiva wrote:

I have some Wellfire MP7 mags - I dont have any Galaxy's left to test them on, but if I'm at HRTA on Saturday and someone has a Galaxy there I'll check them out. If they work I'll replace the Galaxy mags with them.

If not, I'll get something sorted with the supplier.

I'll be alone with my mp7.

Lemming

Boston wrote:

I'll be alone with my mp7.

What you get upto with your mp7 in your own time is your own business Boston

Boston

oh bessy, you understand me.