Cyclone

Jonny303

Hey,

Just wondering, been taking Maximuscle cyclone now 4 a couple of weeks, at the moment im takinf one at breakfast n one just after workout. I take one every morning weather its my day off or not, but i only take one in the evening if its one of the days i train (usally 5 days). is this right or should i be takin it twice a day always. im aware about intervals taking it n all, 6 weeks ect. i just need to know about the twice a day, cheers

Laslo

It's processed crap to be honest. Only take it when you need it - i.e. when you can't get better, fresher or more organic nutrition elsewhere.

tribulus

It's really not that important.

eroo

Lads,I don't think that he is asking about the quality of the product itself.What does not work for you may well work for him..

OP,I think you would be best to take it 2 on training days and leave it at that.You don't want your body to adapt to the nutritional values of the product.Also,Cyclone costs a ****ing bomb so I don't think you'd want to get through it very quickly..

Laslo

eroo wrote: »

Lads,I don't think that he is asking about the quality of the product itself.What does not work for you may well work for him..

My point still stands that it's processed crap - no matter who you are - and should be used sparingly.

eroo

fair enough,but its not going to help with his enquiries..

Hanley

Laslo wrote: »

My point still stands that it's processed crap - no matter who you are - and should be used sparingly.

Of course it's processed... where in nature would you find hat combination? Where in nature would you find ANY of the top supplements?

And as for it being crap, if it works, it's not crap.

AlphaMale 3OO

i agree. its not crap at all. sweets and chocolate are crap.

Laslo

Hanley wrote: »

And as for it being crap, if it works, it's not crap.

Steroids work. I take it they're not crap then? Or synthol. :rolleyes:

I've helped the OP out with their enquiry as much as possible - don't take so much cyclone. Take it when you need a top-up and substitute for real food. Twice a day can hardly be good for you, particularly if you're missing out on natural, wholesome food as a result.

crotalus667

Laslo wrote: »

Steroids work. I take it they're not crap then? Or synthol. :rolleyes:

First off taken under doctors supervision steroids are fecken great for a hole load of things secondly "synthol" does not work unless you want to look like a moran that took synthol:rolleyes:

and thirdly I have heard good things about cyclone from a few people so it cant be that crap

Laslo

crotalus667 wrote: »

First off taken under doctors supervision steroids are fecken great for a hole load of things secondly "synthol" does not work unless you want to look like a moran that took synthol

You know I was talking about anabolic steroid abuse in bodybuilding, so don't be facetious. It makes you look daft and you lose the argument.

Hanley said "if it works, it works" and my point was that just because "it works" doesn't mean that it's good for you.

crotalus667 wrote: »

and thirdly I have heard good things about cyclone from a few people so it cant be that crap

Well it's nice to see that you can investigate and think for yourself!

Cyclone "works" in that it contains protein, creatine, etc and it's a proven aid for bodybuilding. My point, if you had even bothered to read my posts before hitting reply, is that it's not good for you. Cyclone is a processed, concentrated and engineered foodstuff and the OP should be thinking about getting better quality, more natural nutrition than gulping down 2 Cyclone shakes a day.

Eating more and getting decent food into you is better for your overall health than overdoing it with these supplements. They're a good aid - I take them myself as a boost. I just feel that 2 a day is too much.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Laslo wrote: »

Cyclone "works" in that it contains protein, creatine, etc and it's a proven aid for bodybuilding. My point, if you had even bothered to read my posts before hitting reply, is that it's not good for you. Cyclone is a processed, concentrated and engineered foodstuff and the OP should be thinking about getting better quality, more natural nutrition than gulping down 2 Cyclone shakes a day.

Eating more and getting decent food into you is better for your overall health than overdoing it with these supplements. They're a good aid - I take them myself as a boost. I just feel that 2 a day is too much.

Only the ignorant will argue with that.

Hanley

Mairt wrote: »

Only the ignorant will argue with that.

It's good to see someone who actually knows what they're talking about Mairt!!

Laslo, ftr, steroids do work. They work in helping to obtain the desired goal, so they're not crap either. Synthol "works" in that it makes your muscles look bigger when they're not. It's horrendous looking and only a complete muppet would use it, but it still WORKS.

Nowhere before my first post did you say "it's bad for you". If you're talking about steroids and synthol too then that changes things somewhat, however I still firmly believe that if you're smart about it and not taking super high doses and cycling on and off while using proper post cycle therapy then they're not the evil drug the media is making them out to be. The problem occurs when you've idiots who have no idea what they're going sticking needles in their ar$e and munching any pills that they can get their hands on.

As for Cyclone, how do you know it's bad for you? Just because it's not AS good as natural organic sources doesn't mean it's causing harm now does it? When I think "bad", I think of something that is causing damage. Is Cyclone doing that...?

It would seem that this whole argument comes down to your "beliefs", and it doesn't matter if there's anything substantial to back them up or not, because it's just what you believe...

arybvtcw0eolkf

Maybe I'm reading Laslo wrong on this.

But this is how I'm reading him, and it reflects my views too.

Supp's have their place. They suppliment our diets when we can't get those same nutrients from real, proper food.

So if for some reason you can't get the food into you, then by all mean's use suppliments but used as an alternative to food suppliments are crap.

Hanley

Mairt wrote: »

Maybe I'm reading Laslo wrong on this.

But this is how I'm reading him, and it reflects my views too.

Supp's have their place. They suppliment our diets when we can't get those same nutrients from real, proper food.

So if for some reason you can't get the food into you, then by all mean's use suppliments but used as an alternative to food suppliments are crap.

I think that's what he's saying alright, but I just took aversion to him saying that Cyclone is "bad" without fully thinking thru the argument!

arybvtcw0eolkf

Hanley wrote: »

I think that's what he's saying alright, but I just took aversion to him saying that Cyclone is "bad" without fully thinking thru the argument!

I'll say this, its bad for your pocket!.

Off topic, and I'll never say who this is because you'll know him.

But a well known bodybuilder who trained in Herc's literally exploded overnight. I went to Lebanon in 2000 and came back in 2001 and he'd put on a massive amount of size.

I was like 'wtf ****n, what are you using' ... 'CYCLONE' lol, I nearly pissed myself laughing at the lie. Later that year it was funnier to hear (another well known name) cry that ****n owed him nearly €4k for GH!.

Lads for those of you being told by the bigger lads to use 'such and such' suppliments there's a moral in that story above.

Hanley

Hahahaha fair point, always take advice on over the counter supplements with a pinch of salt when it's the truly massive guys telling you.

wayne1

Laslo wrote: »

It's processed crap to be honest. Only take it when you need it - i.e. when you can't get better, fresher or more organic nutrition elsewhere.

L:)ike what would u take before a good cardio session your seif:)

arybvtcw0eolkf

wayne1 wrote: »

L:)ike what would u take before a good cardio session your seif:)

Hope you don't mind me answering this one.

I'm old school on this one so I'll say WATER, WATER, WATER everytime.

From training over the year's in various sport plus course etc with my job (defence forces) I've always been told, "if you get thirsty and need water DURING training, its too late your already dehydrated'. Right or wrong I don't care, it works for me and I seldom require drinks during training, although I still sip away.

In some old Judo clubs its considered bad practice to drink during training, so they encourage drinking/loading up during the day before practice.

eroo

Laslo,we all know that you cant live off supplements and that they should just be used as an aid to training...but that has NOTHING to do with OP's question.He wants to know about doseage...I think he is big and bold enough to be able to make the decision to take supps or not.Obviously,he has decided he does want to use em..so stop trying to tell him otherwise

Laslo

eroo wrote: »

so stop trying to tell him otherwise

I can give whatever advice I like, thank you very much. Having said that, I tend not to give advice when it's not appreciated so be my guests and gorge on all the overpriced, nasty, processed supplements you want. Makes no difference to me.

Personally I just find that additional, natural food is much healthier as a supplement during recovery. I used to take a lot of supplements but after a few years ended up feeling quite dodgy. My dietitian advised me to cut down on the processed supplements and substitute it with an extra turkey breast, tuna, cottage cheese, etc. instead. It made all the difference. I'm not the only bodybuilder I know that's been in this position over the years either.

No scientific proof that Cyclone is good or bad for you - just anecdotal evidence. Take it or leave it.

merlin2008

Hmmm the problem with saying that organic food is the best option pre/post workout is that the best anabolic kick will be elicited from skimmed milk......and that leads onto a whole new question that is milk itself processed ****?.....as maybe is your chicken breast unless it's been fed grass and worms and not grains.

To the guy who asked for advice - do yourself a favour and save some cash by slamming down cyclone only before and after your weights workouts......you can use it every day for a little while but the insulin secretion it creates may not be sensible long-term (except for peri-workout when you want it). Cyclone is a good product. In my opinion, many dietitians are not too hot on cutting edge science - their text books told them supplements were made by the devil! I'm all for natural food most of the time, but peri-workout I somewhat beg to differ. As a side note, whey protein is very healthy.....immune boosting, anti-oxidant etc. Cheers guys.

Luke Dublin

I'v been having real problems with cyclone

anyone the same

luke

Hanley

Luke Dublin wrote: »

I'v been having real problems with cyclone

anyone the same

luke

Ehhh... yeah, it killed my family, raided my savings and ran away with my girlfriend.

God damn you Cyclone!! *Shakes fist*

Care to elaborate on what your problems are??

jumbopalumbo

i liked Cyclone, took it when i first started trainin, took it at least twice a day, no probelms, way too expensive though, not a bad product, probably cheaper to get a Creatine Mono and Whey Protein seperate should do the job

Esse85

Here's a cheaper alternative which i use.
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/formulas/our-formulas/hurricane-xs/