The O Byrne Cup

blackbelt

The first competitions of 2008 starts this weekend as the O Byrne Cup/McKenna Cups etc get underway.

Dublin play Wicklow in Parnell Park this Saturday at 5pm.I'm expecting Dublin to come through by 8 points.

Westmeath v DIT should be a cracker.This one at 2pm on Sunday.I'm predicting a DIT win with Mark Vaughan being the star of the show and Colm O Loughlin to kick over some nice points.DIT by 1 point.

Wexford v Laois should be another tight encounter.I hear morale is quite low in the Laois camp and this may hinder Laois performance.Wexford to win this by 2 points.

Carlow v Kilkenny pits the two weakest teams in Leinster against each other.Expect Carlow to win by 10 points to completely flatter Carlow.

Kildare v Longford is Geezers first game in charge of Kildare.The Kildare players will want to impress and home advantage may provide the criteria do this.Kildare by 3 points.

Offaly v Athlone IT.Offaly are coming off an embarassing season losing to Wicklow in Aughrim but their experience should be too much for Athlone.Offaly to win by 5 points.

pd101

Should be interesting. I think the Wicklow/Dublin game will be closer than people think but Dublin should still win. I agree with the rest of the predictions, although wouldn't be suprised if Westmeath won.

aidan24326

Will Dublin bring out the open-top bus when they win it?

Ok, ok just jokin lads. I'd expect Kildare to put in a big effort, lots of fellas trying to impress the new man. For the Dubs it should be about looking at a few new lads.

In Connaught we have the FBD League but in all honesty nobody really cares about it much. Mayo are down to a panel of 20 players due to injury, unavailability, college ties etc, and Galway will be fielding an experimental team I'd imagine. A chance to give some good club players a run and see what they can do.

mchurl

blackbelt wrote: »

Westmeath v DIT should be a cracker.This one at 2pm on Sunday.I'm predicting a DIT win with Mark Vaughan being the star of the show and Colm O Loughlin to kick over some nice points.DIT by 1 point.

D.I.T are playing the dublin 21's tonight in a friendly as well, should be interesting to see if their put out the majority of their first team or not.

telecaster

McKenna cup started last weekend with Queens beating Monaghan. Donegal play UUJ tonight.

StrawDub

mchurl wrote: »

D.I.T are playing the dublin 21's tonight in a friendly as well, should be interesting to see if their put out the majority of their first team or not.

have you got any idea where that friendly is on? might go have a look

Dapos

Looks like dublin gave Wicklow a hammering in the end.

Dublin 2-12 Wicklow 0-09.

Wanted to watch this on setanta online but the fecken thing is not working. Was the match any good. I think the half time score was 1-06 to 0-04

The Chessplayer

Dapos wrote: »

Looks like dublin gave Wicklow a hammering in the end.

Dublin 2-12 Wicklow 0-08.

Wanted to watch this on setanta online but the fecken thing is not working. Was the match any good. I think the half time score was 1-06 to 0-04

They fairly walloped Wicklow in the end, but in fairness to Wicklow they were missing a few regulars. They squandered a good chance in the third quarter with a missed goal chance which could have made it a different game. Overall, though, Dublin had the lion's share of the play and kicked a lot of wides and generally outplayed them. Competition for places in Dublin this year meant that poor old Wicklow were up against it for a solid 70minutes.

The O'Byrne Cup looks to be unearthing some very promising talent in Dublin again this year - but as last year showed...half of them won't last the pace. I'd be optimistic about Fennell though. The WW middle pairing of Walsh and Stafford are pretty solid, but Ryan and Fennell ran the show. What about Alan Brogan coming off the bench - what a display at this time of the year! 3Brogans is a frightening prospect!

Hopefully Wicklow won't lose heart - they have potential to take the likes of Westmeath if they just show a bit more confidence. They have some quality players.

Flukey

The Dubs go marching on.:)

blackbelt

I was at the match and recorded it on my camcorder.This being my first time to use it for a good 45-50 minutes.I hadn't used it much since I bought it but I got a hang of the controls and buttons quickly enough.It was bitterly cold and my hands were frost bitten literally and figuratively.I'll post it up on youtube when I find out how.

My battery was dying in the 2nd half as it wasn't charged fully so I missed Dublins second goal.Also using the zooming function was easy at times and hard at others.

Anyway,Shane Ryan commanded midfield and Stafford had an alright game.Young Fennell looks like a hot prospect as well as Mahoney and Kennedy.Paul Brogan was introduced and got stuck in.His first order of the day was to concede a free kick lol.

Overall a good performance by Dublin given that the team was pretty much an experiment of mostly new young players and a few experienced players like Shane Ryan,Collie Moran,Stephen Cluxton,Alan Brogan and Jason Sherlock.However,Dublin were a bit slow to shake off Wicklow.Wasn't til the last 5 minutes of the first half when they began to pull away with the goal and points after.

Good turnout as well.I'd say there were 4,000 there.Maybe even more.Overall,a pretty decent match even though some passing was terrible by both sides for a time.

Westmeath or DIT are next which will be played in Parnell Park.

telecaster

blackbelt wrote: »

I'll post it up on youtube when I find out how.

Sound man blackbelt....have you plans to do this on any more of the games?

blackbelt

I might record next weeks match as well between Dublin v Westmeath/DIT.I still have to find out how to upload from camcorder to pc.I seem to be missing a USB that was to come with the camcorder or either I am just not too educated on how to use it,have the necessary connections but simply do not know how.I tried reading the manual but it was very very complicated.Maybe my good friend Flukey can help me.I'm not a pro yet.:D

I also realise that I put the camera on short play instead of long play.This may have affected the batterys life span for the evening as I had it charging all afternoon.

telecaster

Good stuff blackbelt, work commitments will prevent me getting to most of the games, would be great to see some pictures. Maybe the lads in the AV forum here can point you in the right direction about some of the techie stuff.

Flukey

Maybe my good friend Flukey can help me.

I don't think you could afford my rates, even with a student discount.;)

It is a long process and to do it properly you have to do a lot of editing before uploading it, which is a slow process in itself. A few minutes of video on YouTube can often be the result of hours of work. I know. You will need to check your cables, to see if you have them all. I had to install a special connector, like a video card with a special port on it, into my computer before connecting my camcorder to my computer.

cruiserweight

Anyway back on the topic of the O'Byrne Cup Here are some more final scores (courtesy of Aertel). Winning start for new Wexford manager. They will be facing former manager Bealins Carlow in the next round.

Losing start for McGeeney in charge of Kildare.

Carlow 3-13 Kilkenny 1-6
Kildare 0-7 Longford 0-9
Offaly 5-24 Athlone IT 0-9
Westmeath 2-08 DIT 0-12
Wexford 1-14 Laois 0-14

blackbelt

Well four out of six isn't bad.Considering I didn't have a clue what Athlone IT are like,they were really bad though.I predicted Offaly by 5 but who could foresee a 30 point drubbing.

DIT are a pretty decent side.I thought they would have it in them to squeeze past.I didn't see the lineup for these two teams before the match.

Kildare losing at home to Longford is a shocker in my opinion but they have done this time and time again so from now on I'll just write off the lilywhites.

My hunch on Wexford v Laois was right.Morale in the Laois camp must be at an all time low.Still early in the season though.Pity they didn't televise the matches.I didn't think Dublin v Wicklow was going to be televised and when I read on the match program that it was,it didn't help my case as I was freezing to death.

Flukey

As expected, we have Westmeath next. Pity about Kilkenny. They need a decent manager and, first of all, a decent county board.

blackbelt

Not to mention,a decent understanding of the game.I'm sure a lot of them thought about placing the ball on the 65 instead of the 45.:D

Dublin should be able to beat Westmeath.Wonder if my cousin was playing against DIT today.Doesn't seem to be any match reports yet.

Flukey,I'm sure we could come to an understanding in Kitty's.:D

Myxomatosis

Go on the Carlow, new manager, good times ahead... Now if our hurlers could put up a scoreline like that against them it would quite nice.

Just on a side not, what is wrong with the people at RTE that they can't simply put up the latests scores of the matches on their website. It's not as if the information is not available, seeing that a Aertel is reasonably accurate.

And even the GAA website barely covers this competition

aidan24326

Flukey wrote: »

As expected, we have Westmeath next. Pity about Kilkenny. They need a decent manager and, first of all, a decent county board.

And perhaps a few footballers wouldn't go amiss either. There is just no desire to play football in the county. Hurling rules full stop. To me it takes
a bit away from their hurling achievements, the total disregard for football in the county, not even entering a team in league or championship. Even, Leitrim, Cavan and Fermanagh have hurling teams in the league and Rackard Cup, and hurling is a more difficult game to play and coach.

McGeeney has his work cut out with Kildare, I'm not sure the players are there right now. Though results at this time of year can probably be taken with a pinch of salt as most teams are fielding understrength lineups, trying out new players etc.

In Connaught FBD, these were results.

Galway 1-13 Sligo 0-09
Sligo IT 1-15 Roscom 0-13
NUIG 2-9 Mayo 0-14
Leitrim 2-7 GMIT 0-8

Galway had about a half-strength team on the day. Personally I think it's a good idea having the colleges teams in it. I don't know why county managers are whinging about it. County players lining out for their college are still getting good match practice, and it's a chance to try out fringe players and lads who have done well at club level. I thought that's what these competitions were about anyway.

Watched a bit of Armagh-Derry on tv and Derry won well.

EDIT: I think Kilkenny are returning to league action soon. Don't know if it's this year, could be. Will probably endure the usual 20 point thrashings though. Who would want to play for them just to get hammered 3-18 to 0-5 (or worse) every Sunday?

cruiserweight

Sounds like plenty of new faces were given a run out which is good, although I haven't seen the line ups yet. Barry and Malone have committed to the footballers for another years as well

From rte.ie

Mattie Forde was on fire for Wexford today in cold and wet conditions at Bellefield Park, Enniscorthy as the home side got off to a positive start under new manager Jason Ryan by beating Laois 1-14 to 0-14.

Forde hit 1-6 as the Slaneysiders grabbed a deserved O'Byrne Cup first round victory over last season's beaten finalists.

Although Wexford lined out with just four of the starting 15 which lost to Fermanagh in the championship last summer, they still had enough to topple Laois in this game.

The visitors also offered a number of changes with Conor Gorman replacing the retired Fergal Byron between the posts while speculation over the inter-county futures of Tom Kelly and Joe Higgins continues - neither player was named in the Laois panel.

Liam Kearns' charges were keen to start well in this game and held a 0-6 to 0-2 lead after 24 minutes with points from free-taker MJ Tierney and corner forward Donie Brennan paving the way.

Indeed, the energetic Laois forwards forced Wexford goalkeeper Anthony Masterson into making a fine save after just seven minutes, but corner forward Paul Dunne was unable to beat the Wexford custodian.

However, sparkles of Wexford's promising talent were now to be seen as corner forward Ben Brosnan kicked-started the home side's revival.

Brosnan's second point of the day came in the 31st-minute, to end a barren 13-minute spell for his side and Wexford continued to tag on points in the closing stages of the half with Shane Roche and defender Colm Morris also on target, as the gap was cut to the minimum.

However Tierney had the final say of the half for Laois with his fourth point ensuring a 0-7 to 0-5 interval lead for the visitors.

Despite extending the gap to three points on the restart, Laois let their composure slip as Wexford took full control and Forde's goal, two minutes into the half, signalled that Wexford were not going to lie down easily.

They did not and the efforts of Forde, Curtis and Brosnan helped the hosts turn the tide - they boasted a 1-14 to 0-12 lead with nine minutes remaining.

Although Laois tried hard to mount a comeback, their good work was all in vain and it was Wexford who advanced to a last-eight meeting with Carlow next weekend.

Flukey

As I keep saying here, Kilkenny have more senior football provincial titles than many counties who compete in the championship. So contrary to popular belief, they are not the least successful county in football. Far from it in fact. Micko went to Wicklow, a county with less success than Kilkenny. the Kilkenny county board should have been onto him first. All they need is a good county board and a good manager. There are plenty of great hurlers in Kilkenny who haven't a chance of getting anywhere near the county panel, but could be used for the footballers. The two sports can comfortably live with each other, neither being a threat to the other. They definitely don't want 20 point thrashings every week, so that is an incentive to improve, not give up.

blackbelt

Flukey wrote: »

As I keep saying here, Kilkenny have more senior football provincial titles than many counties who compete in the championship. So contrary to popular belief, they are not the least successful county in football. Far from it in fact. Micko went to Wicklow, a county with less success than Kilkenny. the Kilkenny county board should have been onto him first. All they need is a good county board and a good manager. There are plenty of great hurlers in Kilkenny who haven't a chance of getting anywhere near the county panel, but could be used for the footballers. The two sports can comfortably live with each other, neither being a threat to the other. They definitely don't want 20 point thrashings every week, so that is an incentive to improve, not give up.

This might sound a bit radical but I always thought that Kilkenny should have had their funds significantly cut due to not bothering to field a football team and that in order to even out Leinster that New York and London should have been given the chance to play off to compete in that province.

Wasted opportunity maybe.We know they will play in the league now but come the championship will they fielding a team for that?

Flukey

In football Leinster has 12 counties, with 11 competing, which is why it makes more sense for London and New York to play in Connacht, with only 5 counties.

blackbelt

Yes,that is true.Although to give those two teams more experience and to give them more opportunity to develop through competition,I think a place in the Leinster Championship would be advantageous and beneficial.

Not withstanding wanting to see New York and London play.I'd say London would win.

aidan24326

Flukey wrote:

In football Leinster has 12 counties, with 11 competing, which is why it makes more sense for London and New York to play in Connacht, with only 5 counties.

blackbelt wrote: »

Yes,that is true.Although to give those two teams more experience and to give them more opportunity to develop through competition,I think a place in the Leinster Championship would be advantageous and beneficial.

Not withstanding wanting to see New York and London play.I'd say London would win.

Sure why don't ye just move all the Connaught teams into Leinster while ye're at it? :rolleyes:

PS Flukey, Kilkenny may have won a couple of Leinster football titles but the last of those was 97 years ago so hardly relevant today.

I agree that there must be plenty of hurlers in the county who could make up a decent football team if they wanted to, but the interest isn't there.

Pride Fighter

blackbelt wrote: »

This might sound a bit radical but I always thought that Kilkenny should have had their funds significantly cut due to not bothering to field a football team and that in order to even out Leinster that New York and London should have been given the chance to play off to compete in that province.

Wasted opportunity maybe.We know they will play in the league now but come the championship will they fielding a team for that?

I agree, it should be cut by half if they are not fielding a football team. Cork split their money evenly between the two. If they only spent their money on hurling they would dominate it. KK are a disgrace. Dublin will take them in the Leinster final this year!!!

kevmy

Back to the (slow and still feeling the Christmas) action.

Was at the Mayo v NUIG game. Not a great game as can be expected for the time of year but it picked up a bit in the 2nd half.

Mayo had a pretty useless team out with only Alan Dillon (who didn't seem that interested), Austin O'Malley and perhaps Brian Benson in the forwards who will challenge for a place come Championship. Gill and Gardiner were playing midfield but definitely won't be playing there in the summer. The defence was decent but still no end in sight to our centre back and full back woes with Liam O'Malley and BJP playing there respectively.
Mayo were poor first half and gave away loads of kickable frees and a penalty while not winning much in midfield (the outstanding midfielder on the day was the NUIG no. 8 from Westmeath I think). They picked up in the second half when young Seamus O'Shea was put in around the middle and Austin was brought out around centre forward.
In the end a flukey enough goal won it for NUIG when the goalie dropped it at the feet of Mark Ronaldson who tucked it in. Sean Armstrong (1-3) and Mattie Clancy along with the full forward played well for NUIG. Mayo's best performers were Keith Higgins, Austin O'Malley, O'Shea, Gill in the second half as a third midfielder and Brian Benson

The Chessplayer

Flukey wrote: »

As I keep saying here, Kilkenny have more senior football provincial titles than many counties who compete in the championship. So contrary to popular belief, they are not the least successful county in football. Far from it in fact. Micko went to Wicklow, a county with less success than Kilkenny. the Kilkenny county board should have been onto him first. All they need is a good county board and a good manager. There are plenty of great hurlers in Kilkenny who haven't a chance of getting anywhere near the county panel, but could be used for the footballers. The two sports can comfortably live with each other, neither being a threat to the other. They definitely don't want 20 point thrashings every week, so that is an incentive to improve, not give up.

Would you get off the stage chap!!! Every town and village in Wicklow has a gaelic football club (and plenty of hurling too). Any club team in Wicklow, from junior to intermediate to senior would tear Kilkenny's county football team apart. Wicklow's hurling team would be ranked somewhere from 13th to 17th (I think that's a fair comment). KK's football team don't even merit ranking, so bad are they at the game. London and New York would absolutely hop off them!

KK are the worst football team in Ireland and probably always have been. Soccer is the second sport there.

Scootay

I was at the Westmeath DIT game. Westmeath played a very experimental team. There was only one Tyrrellspass player on the panel and when Dessie Dolan came on he seemed to line out at half back.

Mark Vaughan was very unlucky not to get a couple of goals but John Keane did a fine job of man marking him for the duration. Westmeath didn't have a lot of wides but had a half dozen shots or more fall short with nobody challenging for them. While DIT did a fine job of fighting back from 7 points down to trail by a single point much of that was down to Westmeath not finishing their chances rather than DIT having a better team.

I lost count of the number of goal chances that DIT should have finished but didn't.

With all the experimenting going on with new players and players in new positions (and probably even without that) Westmeath won't beat Dublin on Saturday but I think they'll be a lot closer than Wicklow were.

cruiserweight

The Chessplayer wrote: »

Would you get off the stage chap!!! Every town and village in Wicklow has a gaelic football club (and plenty of hurling too). Any club team in Wicklow, from junior to intermediate to senior would tear Kilkenny's county football team apart. Wicklow's hurling team would be ranked somewhere from 13th to 17th (I think that's a fair comment). KK's football team don't even merit ranking, so bad are they at the game. London and New York would absolutely hop off them!

KK are the worst football team in Ireland and probably always have been. Soccer is the second sport there.

I think Flukey's comments were more about Kilkenny rather than Wicklow. Historically there has been no inter county success for Wicklow, where as there has been for Kilkenny. There is a very strong club scene in Wicklow though, and not just in football.

kevmy

cruiserweight wrote: »

There is a very strong club scene in Wicklow though, and not just in football.

Too strong in fact. The county suffers because of it. They need a change in attitude at county board, club and player level to ever be successful. The county board might change now that Mickos on board but the clubs won't and only some of the players will

jackbhoy

Scootay wrote: »

I was at the Westmeath DIT game. Westmeath played a very experimental team. There was only one Tyrrellspass player on the panel and when Dessie Dolan came on he seemed to line out at half back.

Mark Vaughan was very unlucky not to get a couple of goals but John Keane did a fine job of man marking him for the duration. Westmeath didn't have a lot of wides but had a half dozen shots or more fall short with nobody challenging for them. While DIT did a fine job of fighting back from 7 points down to trail by a single point much of that was down to Westmeath not finishing their chances rather than DIT having a better team.


With all the experimenting going on with new players and players in new positions (and probably even without that) Westmeath won't beat Dublin on Saturday but I think they'll be a lot closer than Wicklow were.

Dessie probably played 3rd midfielder? He's an intelligent player and a class runner & passer of the ball and has often been left isolated on FF line with W'meaths HB/HF line giving sh!te ball into him. If they could get another consistent scorer in forwards (along with Glennon) i'd like to see Dessie play bit deeper, himself and Flanagan would be good link up in middle of park. Keane is good man marker on lads like Vaughan alright but tends to struggle with the big man/high ball tactic.

Don't think Westmeath will be expectant (or bothered too much) about beating Dubs, think they are glad to give outings to few of younger lads, badly need a few new faces in HB/HF line this year, thats what this comp is all about.

blackbelt

kevmy wrote: »

Back to the (slow and still feeling the Christmas) action.

Was at the Mayo v NUIG game. Not a great game as can be expected for the time of year but it picked up a bit in the 2nd half.

Mayo had a pretty useless team out with only Alan Dillon (who didn't seem that interested), Austin O'Malley and perhaps Brian Benson in the forwards who will challenge for a place come Championship. Gill and Gardiner were playing midfield but definitely won't be playing there in the summer. The defence was decent but still no end in sight to our centre back and full back woes with Liam O'Malley and BJP playing there respectively.
Mayo were poor first half and gave away loads of kickable frees and a penalty while not winning much in midfield (the outstanding midfielder on the day was the NUIG no. 8 from Westmeath I think). They picked up in the second half when young Seamus O'Shea was put in around the middle and Austin was brought out around centre forward.
In the end a flukey enough goal won it for NUIG when the goalie dropped it at the feet of Mark Ronaldson who tucked it in. Sean Armstrong (1-3) and Mattie Clancy along with the full forward played well for NUIG. Mayo's best performers were Keith Higgins, Austin O'Malley, O'Shea, Gill in the second half as a third midfielder and Brian Benson

Was that midfielder David Duffy?Thats my cousin but I haven't been talking to him in ages.I thought he'd be on the Westmeath team but I heard from a Westmeath source that he is with GMIT.Maybe he got that wrong and he's actually with NUIG.Can't find any match reports that states this.

blackbelt

aidan24326 wrote: »

Sure why don't ye just move all the Connaught teams into Leinster while ye're at it? :rolleyes:

PS Flukey, Kilkenny may have won a couple of Leinster football titles but the last of those was 97 years ago so hardly relevant today.

I agree that there must be plenty of hurlers in the county who could make up a decent football team if they wanted to, but the interest isn't there.

Was thinking that London and New York could get two bites at the cherry by having the opportunity to compete in Connaught and a playoff for a coveted spot in Leinster.This way the Connaught Championship would not suffer.

Flukey

aidan24326 wrote: »

PS Flukey, Kilkenny may have won a couple of Leinster football titles but the last of those was 97 years ago so hardly relevant today.

I agree that there must be plenty of hurlers in the county who could make up a decent football team if they wanted to, but the interest isn't there.

They've won 3 titles, which is more than 9 other counties that do compete every year. Amongst those are counties whose last provincial football title is further back than Kilkenny's last one, but they still compete. Their neighbours Waterford is one of those. They last won Munster in 1898. In recent years their hurlers have enjoyed more success than they have had for a long time. However, at the same time, their footballers, both club and county, have had some level of what would be considered to be success too. Both sports can survive together.

As for the interest not being there, think of it this way: If you went up to any of the Kilkenny football team and asked them if they'd like to win a Leinster Football title, how many of them do you think would say "No"? Obviously their chances of doing so are slim, but like any footballer in the country, they'd all love to win some silverware. That counts as interest. Their target, which is achievable, is to be able to put out a competitive team, one that may still lose, but not by 20 points.

The Chessplayer wrote: »

KK are the worst football team in Ireland and probably always have been.

I don't think that the first ever winners of the Leinster Senior Football Championship and 2 further ones - which is more than some Leinster counties and those of other provinces, Sligo having equalled their feat only last year - could be regarded as always having been the worst football team in Ireland. On current standards, yes, but not always. There are counties out there - like Wicklow - still aiming to reach Kilkenny's level of success. It is going to take Wicklow at least 3 years, and probably a lot longer, to do so even though they are currently more likely to win their first before Kilkenny win their fourth. However if the Kilkenny county board ever decide to start doing their job, - which, despite having Liam McCarthy they are still not doing - they may get that Leinster Football title sooner. If they were doing it, they'd have got to Micko first. Kilkenny v Wicklow in a Leinster Senior Football final, would be nice to see, as would the Hurling equivalent.

Pride Fighter

The Chessplayer wrote: »

Would you get off the stage chap!!! Every town and village in Wicklow has a gaelic football club (and plenty of hurling too). Any club team in Wicklow, from junior to intermediate to senior would tear Kilkenny's county football team apart. Wicklow's hurling team would be ranked somewhere from 13th to 17th (I think that's a fair comment). KK's football team don't even merit ranking, so bad are they at the game. London and New York would absolutely hop off them!

KK are the worst football team in Ireland and probably always have been. Soccer is the second sport there.

I think you are taking his argument out of context there.

kevmy

blackbelt wrote: »

Was that midfielder David Duffy?Thats my cousin but I haven't been talking to him in ages.I thought he'd be on the Westmeath team but I heard from a Westmeath source that he is with GMIT.Maybe he got that wrong and he's actually with NUIG.Can't find any match reports that states this.

It was indeed David Duffy. He made mincemeat of James Gill in the first half. He only got some competition when O'Shea came on and Mayo clogged up midfield.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/ronaldson-strike-compounds-mayo-misfortune-1259304.html

blackbelt

Cheers for the link Kevmy.I thought GMIT was a bit strange,didn't really believe that.Won't be seeing him in Parnell Park next week but hopefully next month when the league gets underway when the Dubs play Westmeath in the opening round.

Marse

Is P Brogan the little brother of the other two lads?

blackbelt

Yes he is and it looks like our chances for Sam may be given a boost from this.We saw how well Alan and Bernard played together last season,add another Brogan in and it looks like a very formidable trio to overcome.

Surely these three players can help in deliering Sam to Dublin.You see the O Se in Kerry and think they are the route of a lot of Kerrys success.Hopefully the Brogans will be the same for Dublin.

Marse

blackbelt wrote: »

Yes he is and it looks like our chances for Sam may be given a boost from this.We saw how well Alan and Bernard played together last season,add another Brogan in and it looks like a very formidable trio to overcome.

Surely these three players can help in deliering Sam to Dublin.You see the O Se in Kerry and think they are the route of a lot of Kerrys success.Hopefully the Brogans will be the same for Dublin.

Cheers for the reply.

On the dubs for SAM, I love in hope.

DublinDes

It takes a tough player but a tougher supporter to go and watch a match in this weather. Have to say I do it from the comfort of me armchair or me local.

aidan24326

Results tonight

O'Byrne Cup
Meath 2-11 UCD 0-15


McKenna Cup
Antrim 0-10 Cavan 0-09
Derry 1-15 St. Mary's 2-08
Ferman 1-11 Armagh 0-10
Tyrone 3-06 Down 1-07

nohamtap

DUBLIN (SF v Westmeath) - J Leonard; N O'Shea, R McConnell, S O'Shaughnessy; P McMahon, C Moran, P Brogan; E Fennell, S Ryan; D Lally, P Burke, B Brogan; J Sherlock, D O'Mahony, P Flynn. Subs: S Cluxton, D Henry, P Casey, D Murray, D Ryan, B Cullen, J O'Brien, A Brogan, B Kennedy.

Flukey

Anyone going on Saturday to Parnell Park? I may go myself and I am sure Blackbelt probably will too. How about the rest of you Dubs?

Mullet

I will be there Donnycarney end to the right side of the goal:) its were me and popebenny normally stand heard a rumour tonight he might be up this weekend.:D

blackbelt

MMMM,that must mean that X-Factor has been cancelled this weekend.:D:D

cruiserweight

Last nights result Louth 0-11 1-14 DCU. According to the rte report both Conor Mortimer and Seanie Johnston had good games

blackbelt

cruiserweight wrote: »

Last nights result Louth 0-11 1-14 DCU. According to the rte report both Conor Mortimer and Seanie Johnston had good games

I hear quite a chunk of the Louth senior panel play for DCU.About 4 players I think.Should be interesting to see how their experience with DCU will help them in preparation for the league and the match against Dublin in June.

nohamtap

Will be in there Sat night myself! Last week v Wicklow the stand was about half full. Hope we get a better turn out this week! However, TV coverage of the games dont help the gate at this time of year!:mad: