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Will you go longer than 3 months??Will you?

  • 28-12-2007 4:21pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭


    http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/mheycwcwkfcw/

    Nearly half of people who vowed to get fit at the beginning of 2007 gave up within three months.

    New research is out as many start making new year's resolutions.

    More than 60% of men and women plan on trying to get into shape in January.

    Carl McCartney, head of group exercise at Virgin Active, advises people to stick with it.

    "If you last out for the first 12 weeks of your programme you're more likely to continue on, so for most people to give up within three months is exactly right," he said.

    "Most people will start the programme out, and then two or three weeks down the line the five times a week that they started out with will move to three then two, and then, if they're lucky, once a week."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    Bah most gyms are too crowded already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭FunkZ


    I definitely didn't give up last year after three months. And seeing how fat the last three months have made me I definitely won't give up next year!

    Home gym FTW :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    pwd wrote: »
    Bah most gyms are too crowded already.

    I know man, I'm dreading the Jan-March rush... Luckily enough I generally get there fairly early so hopefully it won't be too bad!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,963 ✭✭✭SpAcEd OuT


    WHIP IT! wrote: »
    I know man, I'm dreading the Jan-March rush... Luckily enough I generally get there fairly early so hopefully it won't be too bad!

    It's the worst time of year. Idiots swinging their backs on every exercise, doing 1 inch reps, chatting, talking on their phones, not putting plates back......... God I hate jan-march


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Yep, this is why I hate the gym in Jan-March.

    Every year it's the same, absolutely empty in December and then bedlam in January.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    hopefully the mayhem will have died down by the time i get back to college at the end of january

    i lasted 8 solid months i imagine the second half of last semester mucked me up a bit as far as eating well goes but i still got to the gym. i went back to my old job from 18months ago over the xmas and the general consensus is "iv lost so much weight" now i lost two stone but i didnt think it was THAT obvious i must of been a fat basterd. also i apparently look younger then i did 18months ago(again although a compliment in the classical sense is it really a compliment for a 22yr old?)

    xmas has been a disaster tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,540 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Well I've been pretty good for the last couple of months though have been pretty awful over Christmas but so be it, I'm enjoying my time of work.

    New years resolution will be to go hardcore and ditch the drink ..train properly (i mean till i want to cry like a sissy because it hurts so) until a non alcoholic sixpack is revealed.

    No doubt someone will start a fitness new years resolution tread in the next couple of days and i'll detail it more there.
    This year some positive steps were taken, next year I'm kicking it up a few notches and thankfully I don;t have to worry about my gym being overcrowded as its just got one member!.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    Resolutions are pointless.If you really wanted to do something,you would've started immediately after thinking about it.If you set a date,odds are you will either delay,or even worse,you will go to the gym for a couple of weeks,then get bogged down and use excuses like ''i don't have time'' etc.

    If you want to get fit,don't make it a ' new year resolution',make it a lifetime goal...permanent,if you will.*
    Otherwise,quit hogging the machines and let those who REALLY want to be fit,get fit!

    *Generalisation,aimed at no one specifically


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,540 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    eroo wrote: »
    Resolutions are pointless.

    Bóllox,

    Without something to aim for its to easy to aim for nothing.

    Resolutions are what drives us every day to do something different.

    Resolutions are what drive me to make something better of my flabby self.
    Just because I didnt make my "resolution" up and run immediately to the gym screaming "six pack or die" at the top of my lungs doesnt make the resolution any less valid.

    Determined people make determined decisions ..aka "resolutions".

    2008 I'll make one that kicks my flabby ass to hell for ever.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    SpAcEd OuT wrote: »
    It's the worst time of year. Idiots swinging their backs on every exercise, doing 1 inch reps, chatting, talking on their phones, not putting plates back......... God I hate jan-march

    Exactly my thoughts, dreading the first few weeks...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    Longfield wrote: »
    Bóllox,

    Without something to aim for its to easy to aim for nothing.

    Resolutions are what drives us every day to do something different.

    Resolutions are what drive me to make something better of my flabby self.
    Just because I didnt make my "resolution" up and run immediately to the gym screaming "six pack or die" at the top of my lungs doesnt make the resolution any less valid.

    Determined people make determined decisions ..aka "resolutions".

    2008 I'll make one that kicks my flabby ass to hell for ever.

    well,prove me wrong and start up a fitness log,if you want..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    eroo wrote: »
    well,prove me wrong and start up a fitness log,if you want..

    Umm in fairness he's proved a fair few people wrong here already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    Hanley wrote: »
    Umm in fairness he's proved a fair few people wrong here already.

    Well,that is your opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,577 ✭✭✭Colm_OReilly


    quit hogging the machines and let those who REALLY want to be fit,get fit!

    People who are truly interesting in fitness don't waste their time on machines :)

    Honestly, with all the talk of "I hate newbies clogging up MY gym" we're not being a very supportive bunch, are we?

    Can you imagine how daunting any new environment is? Particularly one like a gym, where you're insecurities (excess weight, puny muscles) are so obviously and readily displayed. Then you have people in the gyms pissed off with you because you're wasting their time because you don't know what you're doing.

    So you get no encouragement, no friendly environment (as evidenced by the attitude of posters thusfar), a ****ty program based on isolation movements and extended low output "cardio" so you don't even see decent results, what would you do?

    How about the fit people here make a resolution? Sponsor a puny fatass. When you see someone in the gym f*cking up, go up and say "hey, would you like some advice/help? I've been working out a bit and I see a lot of people make that mistake."

    How about that be the fit people's recommendation, instead of giving out about people clogging up 'your' gym?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    I have no problem with newbie's,just ones that go at it half-arsed for a few weeks then quit due to lazyiness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,540 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    eroo wrote: »
    well,prove me wrong and start up a fitness log,if you want..

    I started out getting mad and was about to flame here.

    I've typed this out a few times and I think I'll just say my goals without flaming anyone.
    In six months time I'm gong to post in the Before And After tread and i'm going to have people like Hanley and G'em etc saying well fúcking done.

    Thats it.

    Have a happy and prosperous new year all.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Longfield wrote: »
    I started out getting mad and was about to flame here.

    I've typed this out a few times and I think I'll just say my goals without flaming anyone.
    In six months time I'm gong to post in the Before And After tread and i'm going to have people like Hanley and G'em etc saying well fúcking done.

    Thats it.

    Have a happy and prosperous new year all.

    Don't mind him, it's easy to throw stones when you don't live in a glass house. I await Eroo's new year log with eager anticipation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭Cadrach


    Exactly... eroo has no idea what your personal situation is like. Don't take it personally, he shouldn't have said that anyway because it was completely illogical. A great thing about fitness is that you can see your own progress as plain as day, and nobody on the internet can take your milestones away from you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Pj!


    Longfield wrote: »
    I started out getting mad and was about to flame here.

    I've typed this out a few times and I think I'll just say my goals without flaming anyone.
    In six months time I'm gong to post in the Before And After tread and i'm going to have people like Hanley and G'em etc saying well fúcking done.

    Thats it.

    Have a happy and prosperous new year all.
    Nice one Longfield!
    Might do something similiar myself.
    If someone wants to use the new year as a starting point, whats the problem?
    If someone wants to use the same gym as you and pays the same as you, whats the problem? If you think there are too many in the place take it up with the gym. Not the newbies trying to improve themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 966 ✭✭✭GerryRyan


    Will most definitely get past the next 3 months - and then the next 3 years etc.

    I've gotten hooked on exercising and healthy living over the last while. I've cut back on alcohol (completely) and sugarry stuff ... and have finally cleaned up my diet (protein rich, calorie surplus)

    I've found crossfit and some other message boards with tons of advice to fall back on (rosstraining.com etc)

    So it's a lifestlye choice - not an off-the-cuff 'sure I'll go to the gym when I can' idea.

    The gym in the college is 45eur for the whole year for un-limited use, so that's the weights side of it sorted.

    Plus I work like an animal at home, with burpees, heavybag, weighted-sled, sledgehammer and tire, agility ladders for footwork and other things ... so the training's never boring. And I'm gradually seeing changes in strength, endurance and aesthetics, another reason not to give up on it.

    That's the key to it tbh - most people give up when they get bored with their run of the mill gym routine or don't see changes in the first few months. They get tired of the hours on the treadmill, and never think to take it to a whole new level outside the gym (imo)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Longfield, you've nothing to prove to anyone but yourself - trust me, you already have the repsect from me and many, many other regular posters since the whole LT debacle. It takes a courageous person to admit their mistakes and your honesty about it is a rare breath of fresh air on this forum. Still, I'll be waiting with my "Yay you!!!" banner for the photos ;)

    Interestingly everyone so far has ignored Colm's idea: instead of bitching about the n00bs, help them. Sure, the vast majority will clog up the gym for a couple of months but quit moaning and do something about it. How many of us didn't do idiotic stuff when we started out? How many of us relied on the experience of more seasoned gym folk to set us straight? I know I did, and it was thanks to the infectious enthusiasm of other lifters that I lasted longer than the 12 week resolution period.

    Quit yer whinin' ladies and go lift stuff, and while you're at it help another person discover the joys of liftin' stuff too!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭celestial


    GerryRyan wrote: »
    Will most definitely get past the next 3 months - and then the next 3 years etc.

    I've gotten hooked on exercising and healthy living over the last while. I've cut back on alcohol (completely) and sugarry stuff ... and have finally cleaned up my diet (protein rich, calorie surplus)

    I've found crossfit and some other message boards with tons of advice to fall back on (rosstraining.com etc)

    So it's a lifestlye choice - not an off-the-cuff 'sure I'll go to the gym when I can' idea.

    The gym in the college is 45eur for the whole year for un-limited use, so that's the weights side of it sorted.

    Plus I work like an animal at home, with burpees, heavybag, weighted-sled, sledgehammer and tire, agility ladders for footwork and other things ... so the training's never boring. And I'm gradually seeing changes in strength, endurance and aesthetics, another reason not to give up on it.

    That's the key to it tbh - most people give up when they get bored with their run of the mill gym routine or don't see changes in the first few months. They get tired of the hours on the treadmill, and never think to take it to a whole new level outside the gym (imo)

    +1. Fitness is a lifestyle for me now. Unexpected too, given that I resolved to get fit every new year and every summer for about 7 or 8 years. In May of this year I decided I was gonna get fit and burn the flab no matter what. Amazing how powerful those three words can be - no matter what. I just decided to do it and that was it, but committing in that way made the difference. Yesterday I went into town and tried on jeans two inches smaller than the last pair I bought - 36 inch down to 34 inch today. In another few months I'll probably be down to 32 inches. I relish working out now and going to the gym is a pleasure for me. To answer the initial question I couldn't not continue going after the three months was up!

    I hear people going to me - ah I wish I had your motivation, I can't be bothered etc etc, working out half-heartedly in the gym - the difference between enjoying training and not enjoying it is the bottom line. To echo g'em and colm's point it is the folks on here who are committed as I am to training that should be helping and motivating others to enjoy and work hard at it too - I know I would have appreciated it back in my old days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,963 ✭✭✭SpAcEd OuT


    People who are truly interesting in fitness don't waste their time on machines :)

    Honestly, with all the talk of "I hate newbies clogging up MY gym" we're not being a very supportive bunch, are we?

    Can you imagine how daunting any new environment is? Particularly one like a gym, where you're insecurities (excess weight, puny muscles) are so obviously and readily displayed. Then you have people in the gyms pissed off with you because you're wasting their time because you don't know what you're doing.

    So you get no encouragement, no friendly environment (as evidenced by the attitude of posters thusfar), a ****ty program based on isolation movements and extended low output "cardio" so you don't even see decent results, what would you do?

    How about the fit people here make a resolution? Sponsor a puny fatass. When you see someone in the gym f*cking up, go up and say "hey, would you like some advice/help? I've been working out a bit and I see a lot of people make that mistake."

    How about that be the fit people's recommendation, instead of giving out about people clogging up 'your' gym?


    To be honest I don't mind newbies who take your advice and who want to work out.

    What I do have a problem is newbies who stand around chatting for an hour doing one or two sets clogging up the weight room. I also have a problem with newbies who don't take your advice on lifting lighter with better form, these same idiots come up to me and ask me what I am taking trying to see if there is a lazy way out and eventually just leave the gym when they realize there isn't some magic pill and it takes actual work to get big.

    And I do give advice, and I do tell them the basic supplements and I tell them about what kind of diet they need when the small minority ask


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    SpAcEd OuT wrote: »
    What I do have a problem is newbies who stand around chatting for an hour doing one or two sets clogging up the weight room. I also have a problem with newbies who don't take your advice on lifting lighter with better form, these same idiots come up to me and ask me what I am taking trying to see if there is a lazy way out and eventually just leave the gym when they realize there isn't some magic pill and it takes actual work to get big.

    For every person who pays attention to advice, believe me there's 10 more who ignore it and think they know better anyway. That will never change, just keep giving good advice and be tolerant of the muppets, they'll disappear soon enough ;)

    The very same thing happens here in the forum tbh. Posters come and go, some want an easy fix, some want the results without the effort, some want to glean as much info as they can without returning the karma, some stay, most go, but it doesn't stop us from continuing the advice and sharing stories and experiences. Regardless of how much we think we know, there's always new info to be learnt from answering n00by questions.

    Traffic will go through the roof for the month of January and there'll be a massive influx of posts from users who've never graced this part of boards before. Again, some will stay and most will go, but without knowing which will be which, they all deserve the same advice you'd give to a more seasonal regular.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭indiana jones


    i started a new yrs resoulution to get fit 3 yrs ago and it is very dauting when joining a gym. i didnt have a clue how to work the machines and was afraid i would go flying off the back of the treadmill. i was turning into a beetroot walking while two on either side were barly breaking a sweat running non stop. it is sooo easy to get embarrassed and give up in the early stadges but i didnt and ive done 2 marathons since so im very proud of myself. aiming to do a marathon is a good goal and to set yourself. the dublin one is in october and cork in june so its giving loads of time and its a fantastic feeling and gives you someting to aim for


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭ali.c


    Yeah i have to say without the people on this forum and TT (wasabi, g'em, dragan, jayroc et al) i doubt i would of stuck with my training over the last 8 months or so. Getting advice and support from more seasoned people really was key to obtaining some of my goals. The ones i didnt reach this year I am aiming for next year. 12 months in my opinion is a great time frame to aim for some longer term goals. Last new years i decided i was going to get in better shape as part of my new years resolution, i didnt start properly to april and had some pretty inconsistent training and diet tbh, but i have stuck with it and ended up in far better shape as a result (somewhat leaner and a hell of lot stronger). A bad week(s) diet or training does not mean you have to give up on your goals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    First off,I wouldn't go near a newbie with advice for the simple reason that there can be only a few relistic outcomes,with the first 2 most likely...

    1)you offer,they ask you to mind your own business
    2)you offer,they take,and you never see them again because they are afraid of having people looking for their mistakes
    3)you offer advice,they ignore it
    4)you offer,they injure themselves,they blame you

    I am in no way qualified to offer professional advice,neither are most people posting in the Fitness forum.So,if I give someone advice and they **** up their back or shoulder etc,what is to stop them taking me to court if they have witnesses who said I gave advice(a bit exaggerated but..not impossible)
    ALSO,just because you have advice,doesn't mean it is good advice.

    As regards Longfield,
    I don't want/need you to prove anything,likewise I don't need to prove anything...but if your going to reply to someones post by beginning solely with ''Bollix'',then expect me to reply in a not so friendly way.I am all for opinions,but don't rip the piss out of mine..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    wow, you're one mighty helpful chap eroo...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    Joined after my Leaving Cert and I'm still going strong..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭Cadrach


    eroo wrote: »
    As regards Longfield,
    I don't want/need you to prove anything,likewise I don't need to prove anything...but if your going to reply to someones post by beginning solely with ''Bollix'',then expect me to reply in a not so friendly way.I am all for opinions,but don't rip the piss out of mine..

    You made a sweeping statement "Resolutions are pointless." - I agree with the sentiments behind it (if you want to get fit, why wait till Jan 1st?) but the problem with absolute statements like yours is that they can be completely undermined with just one proof of concept. If Longfield knows from experience that there exists at least one case where resolutions had at least some point, then he is fully justified in logically dismissing your statement. Doesn't sound like he ripped the piss out of it.

    I agree with you 60% - resolutions are usually unnecessary. Why put it off until Jan 1st, etc. It is a sign of procrastination which often goes hand in hand with insincerity, even though I would not go to black and white extremes by calling them pointless. The issue here is your statement that "well,prove me wrong and start up a fitness log,if you want.." which, as I'm sure you know, is bollix. Correlating to g'em's statement - for every ten insincere people who are looking for excuses, there is one genuine guy. It is very insulting to the this guy when you assume he's a time-waster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    Well,fair enough,I can see your point but I still hold my opinion that if your going to do something about getting fit,your not going to wait until 1st/2nd January..

    Btw,I find it very insulting when he replies to ''Resolutions are pointless'' by using one word on one line,that word being ''bollix''.That set me off,tbh.If you can't just say ''I disagree'' or ''I think your wrong'' ,then you won't get far in a discussion/debate with me.Manners wouldn't go astray.Now I am not saying ''no cussing boi!!'' ,but don't turn into a baffling eejit by stating your disagreements using ''bollix'' or any other swear words.His reply was fine besides that...So,fair enough I may have gotten a bit out of shape about it but if you cannot have reasonable discussion,then don't discuss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    eroo wrote: »
    Well,fair enough,I can see your point but I still hold my opinion that if your going to do something about getting fit,your not going to wait until 1st/2nd January..

    Btw,I find it very insulting when he replies to ''Resolutions are pointless'' by using one word on one line,that word being ''bollix''.That set me off,tbh.If you can't just say ''I disagree'' or ''I think your wrong'' ,then you won't get far in a discussion/debate with me.Manners wouldn't go astray.Now I am not saying ''no cussing boi!!'' ,but don't turn into a baffling eejit by stating your disagreements using ''bollix'' or any other swear words.His reply was fine besides that...So,fair enough I may have gotten a bit out of shape about it but if you cannot have reasonable discussion,then don't discuss

    Sweeping generalisations are bait for that kind of reaction though. If you make them you have to accept that occasionally you'll get under someone's skin and provoke a reaction with the statement.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    nesf wrote: »
    Sweeping generalisations are bait for that kind of reaction though. If you make them you have to accept that occasionally you'll get under someone's skin and provoke a reaction with the statement.

    It sorta like saying "all the people the screen name XXXX are fools".

    It's clearly not true and it's based on nothing but personal experience. But that doesn't matter, because I'm entitled to my opinion and everyone should agree with me, even if I'm wrong.


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