Congrats RTE

MagicMarker

For showing the same two films that are on BBC1 at the very same time.

You fúckwits.

Dub13

No way are you serous...?

MagicMarker

Yup.. Finding Nemo was on followed by Shrek 2. The very same as BBC accept 10 minutes difference between start times.

FX Meister

Yeah, whats goons. They could have at least played them the other way around and suited people a bit better.

Guy:Incognito

Maybe BBC are showing the same two films as RTE.

MagicMarker

Stekelly wrote: »

Maybe BBC are showing the same two films as RTE.

Quit yo jibba jabba.

Dub13

Stekelly wrote: »

Maybe BBC are showing the same two films as RTE.

Maybe but with the BBC having no adds I no which one I would pick if I wanted to watch one of the movies.

kaisersose77

that happens lots of times

RTE and BBC must get the film rights cheaper if both stations show them around the same time

mike65

Dub13 wrote: »

Maybe but with the BBC having no adds I no which one I would pick if I wanted to watch one of the movies.

RTE has no ads on Christmas day.

I was watching Nanny McPhee much more fun.

Mike.

Dirk Gently

but butch cassidy and the sundance kid is on bog two.

RTE ftw!

Sleepy

The only thing I'll be watching today will be the Doctor Who Christmas Special.

Mightily pissed off that 'It's A Wonderful Life' wasn't shown this morning.

mike65

Dr Who then Harry Hill. Sounds good.

Mike.

AlmightyCushion

Sure e4 showed scrooge (the one with that captain guy from star trek) both yesterday and today. Now that just pisses me off.

MrJoeSoap

Thats what your license fee gets you folks. Pathetic.

godtabh

Yeah RTE should have asked the BBC what they were doing incase something like this happened.

Driver 8

This happens every year...

Wertz

Don't they do this every damn year? I was gonna make a thread about it earlier but I figured it was a rhetorical question to ask.

BTW the numbers have probably fallen way off but not everyone can get BBC1....surely those people are entitled to enjoy a christmas day movie as well? Have to agree on the point about reversing the titles so that they didn't clash, cross border cooperation and all that....FFS all they had to do was lift the phone...

godtabh

all they had to do was lift the phone

Why would any one expect BBC,SKy or ITV etc to help out RTE?

Wertz

I dunno....season of goodwill maybe?

Scenario 1:
"Hi, BBC? This is head of programming at RTÉ, you may have heard of us....just wondering if you could perhaps tell us what order you were planning on showing your xmas movies on the 25th so that we don't clash?"

"Sure no problem at all...that'd be Finding Nemo at 3.30 and Shrek 2 at 5.45. Good luck and happy xmas"

Scenario 2:
"Hi, BBC? This is head of programming at RTÉ, you may have heard of us....just wondering if you could perhaps tell us what order you were planning on showing your xmas movies on the 25th so that we don't clash?"

"No f*ck off you backwards paddy bastards. Get your own damn xmas schedule and stop copying our's every year!"


[edit]

Scenario 3:
*someone in RTÉ programming dept buys a copy of the Radio Times*

Endasaurus

They do this every single year and have done since I was a child I think.

I don't know the reason but its not by chance.

MrJoeSoap

kearnsr wrote: »

Why would any one expect BBC,SKy or ITV etc to help out RTE?

Surely it would help out BBC as well, to some very small extent.

Pigman II

Sleepy wrote: »

Mightily pissed off that 'It's A Wonderful Life' wasn't shown this morning.

I have a divx on my laptop just in case.

The_Conductor

Pigman II wrote:

I have a divx on my laptop just in case.

Lol- I had the same idea.....

gamer

What amazes me is theres thousands of rural people that are using aerials for rte,1,2,bbc1,2 etc.These are middle class people ,well off ,so they tend to watch most films on rte 1.2, tv3, because the reception on bbc 1,2, is never as good as rte .Many people think cables a ripoff, sure i can get all the stations with an aerial for free,they say .Icant see bbc changing their schedules ,so as not to clash with rte.Even on ntl ,rte,s signal tends to be better ,if you are using more than 1 tv.Sometimes rte shows film premieres be4 bbc or channel 4.I dont think bbc care too much about the audience in eire,they are providing a service to the uk,thats their purpose,its nice to get a bit of money from ntl,chorus etc.

Lump

Stekelly wrote: »

Maybe BBC are showing the same two films as RTE.

Hardly considering that BBC serve the English ***** - and you can't get RTE in England

ian_m

The BBC aswell as the other carriers in the UK release their Christmas schedules and after seeing their competitors line up, change their programming around. This, as has been noted previously is a regular occurance and happens every year. RTE can hardly soley be blamed for it.

Our man in Havana

RTÉ had the "Network" premiere of both films. What exactly is a network premiere? Sky have flogged these films to death before RTÉ gets them.

Creamy Goodness

network premiere means that it's the first time being show on terrestial tv.

sky is subscription and doesn't count in terrestial tv.

Dub13

mike65 wrote: »

RTE has no ads on Christmas day.

Really...as they say you learn something new every day.I don't watch RTE much how long has this been going on...?

The_Conductor

Dub13 wrote:

how long has this been going on...?

Forever- its always been that way. Its about the highlight of the viewing year.

Our man in Havana

Cremo wrote: »

network première means that it's the first time being show on terrestrial tv.

Terrestrial tv? In Ireland or Europe or on terrestrial tv anywhere in the world?

MrJoeSoap

Bond-007 wrote: »

Terrestrial tv? In Ireland or Europe or on terrestrial tv anywhere in the world?

In Ireland.

Our man in Havana

That wouldn't be hard as TV3 would not bother bidding for films as they have their ITV syndicated shows to show anyways.

MrJoeSoap

Bond-007 wrote: »

That wouldn't be hard as TV3 would not bother bidding for films as they have their ITV syndicated shows to show anyways.

We really are spoiled aren't we?

pepper

i know so funny

watchn shrek and the bf goes to the loo so i switch over to bbc and he comes out and goes "jesus how long wasi in there " ha ha ha

k guess u had2 be there:rolleyes:

pepper

Sleepy wrote: »

the Doctor Who Christmas Special.

SOME EPISODE!!!!!!!!!

anotherlostie

I didn't realise RTE had a public service obligation to ensure that programmes weren't aired at the same time as they were shown on British terrestrial television. I don't see what the issue would be here.

OPENROAD

Scenario 2:
"Hi, BBC? This is head of programming at RTÉ, you may have heard of us....just wondering if you could perhaps tell us what order you were planning on showing your xmas movies on the 25th so that we don't clash?"

"No f*ck off you backwards paddy bastards. Get your own damn xmas schedule and stop copying our's every year!


:D

A Primal Nut

anotherlostie wrote: »

I didn't realise RTE had a public service obligation to ensure that programmes weren't aired at the same time as they were shown on British terrestrial television. I don't see what the issue would be here.

But the issue is that they are doing it intentionally. Its two films in a row so obviously not a coincidence - plus it happens every year.

I really can't think of any good reason other than they get it cheaper because maybe they share the payments for the right to show the film with the BBC, as the potential pool of viewers is smaller for each channel. So it works out cheaper to show. Doesn't make much sense but I can't think of any more reason.

One explanation would be they want to show extra-special films for Christmas, i.e. ones released maybe only two years ago, which would normally be too expensive to show. But for Christmas, they want something special so they share the costs with the BBC to make it affordable and also make up for lack of ads.

Jackz

Maybe RTE get the rights very cheaply because lots of people here can catch them on bbc if they wish.

MrJoeSoap

Jackz wrote: »

Maybe RTE get the rights very cheaply because lots of people here can catch them on bbc if they wish.

Is that really a valid excuse though?

pickarooney

What does it matter to BBC (or RTE on Christmas Day), who watches their programmes, seeing as there is no ad revenue to be made either way?

rebel.ranter

The BBC are a UK service, they do not, should not or will not tailor their service to suit an Irish audience, they are a British service paid for by the license fee of the British public. Nor should they feed any information the RTE.
It still amazes me that people still give out that they don't do the weather forecast for Ireland! If you remember we went to war with the British in the early 1900s just so we could be independent from them!!!
One of the by-products of this independence is our very own TV service. Hence we now have RTE, for all intents & purposes RTE should not pay a blind bit of notice to what BBC are doing, they are not competitors or cohorts.
Maybe when those 3 digital terrestrial licences come to fruitition then RTE might have some competition although judging by the offerings of Channel 6 & TV3 I wouldn't get too excited.

Seth Brundle

THat is always happening. FFS - the two channels show Eastenders at the same time!

mike65

The One O Clock News as well! Bloody disgrace.

Mike.

Mossy Monk

BBC and RTÉ show the same films at the same time. So ****ing what? There is more to life than what RTÉ and BBC are showing on Christmas Day. Not everyone has BBC anyway.

flogen

Why the hell would RTÉ change their schedule to suit the BBC, or any other channel for that matter? Why should any channel change it's schedule to suit it's competition, actually?

I don't see what the problem is here anyway - if you want to see both movies, flick on RTÉ or BBC and watch both movies, one after the other. If you don't, watch another channel.

Do you get in a huff when TV3 show Corrie at the same time as UTV? Do you think our national broadcaster should clear everything it does with a foreign broadcaster before it goes on air?

And on the 'network premier', I always assumed it meant it was the first time it was shown on that channel or network of channels (RTÉ One/Two for example), rather than the medium (terrestrial, sattelite, cable etc.)

godtabh

Wertz wrote: »

I dunno....season of goodwill maybe?

Again they are to competing companies why would they do that?

Endasaurus wrote: »

I don't know the reason but its not by chance.

If you dont know the reason how do you know its by chance?

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Is that really a valid excuse though?

So you would rather waste the money you give to RTE via the tv licence on them showing different films on the one day of the year the some other channel might be show?

I'd see that going down well here

Wertz

flogen wrote: »

Why the hell would RTÉ change their schedule to suit the BBC, or any other channel for that matter? Why should any channel change it's schedule to suit it's competition, actually?

What's it got to do with suiting the BBC or any other channel?
It is, or should be, to do with suiting the viewer/customer. Of those still with maybe 8 or 9 channels, as I was for many a year, an already limited choice of xmas day viewing suddenly becomes even more limited because of this nonsense.

flogen wrote: »

I don't see what the problem is here anyway - if you want to see both movies, flick on RTÉ or BBC and watch both movies, one after the other. If you don't, watch another channel.

The problem is, as mentioned above, that you have two channels showing the same things at peak viewing times on a day when the TV should be providing adequate entertainment. What if you don't want to see either movie or either station's offering of that movie? You're down not one but two channels out of your perhaps already limited selection.
Maybe license payers should just stick on a DVD instead eh? After all that's what they pay a license fee for...

flogen wrote: »

Do you get in a huff when TV3 show Corrie at the same time as UTV? Do you think our national broadcaster should clear everything it does with a foreign broadcaster before it goes on air?

That's a spurious argument; soaps like Eastenders or Corrie are shown at the same time because they're released to both stations and to the public at the same time. If you watch soaps you'll be watching on one or other of the stations already; if you don't you won't be. Soaps are only 30 mintues; two movies amount to ~3 hrs of deja viewing

Obviously no-one thinks that RTÉ should clear all it's programming decisions with other channels...but on a day like xmas day, a little forethought and a duty of care to it's customers wouldn't go astray. Instead, it's just a put up or shut up decision. Poor form IMO, but no more than I've come to expect from the pen pushers in Montrose.

Kearnsr wrote:

Again they are to competing companies why would they do that?

Competing? I wasn't aware that RTÉ had that much penetration into the UK market. On the other hand BBC does have a sizable penetration into the Irish market, (well I say market, but then they're not trying to promote or sell us anything and last time I looked nobody in the south pays a license fee to them) so I would see it that RTÉ are the ones with some sort of obligation (be it in their public service charter or not) to maximise the enjoyment in their own catchment area.
Additionally as mentioned above RTÉ don't do ads on xmas day either, so how are they actually competing and how does one or other loose out by a change in the schedule?

It's just common sense....no-one gains anything by having such an important day's entertainment value reduced by doubling up.
Common sense seems to be at a premium in RTÉ's programming department though as can be witnessed throughout the year by their haphazard approach to showing programmes at appropraite times, but that's one for another thread.
I'm not RTÉ bashing for the sake of it here; stupid crap like this pisses me off (hell I didn't even watch the TV yesterday) especially when I see so much effort put into their ad campaigns for license fee avoidance and people going to jail for non-payment.

tintin67

BBC tv and ITV submit their Christmas listings to the UK newspapers and listing magazines in early December. RTE have for years shown movies scheduled by the UK channels over Christmas several days (or minutes, as this year on Christmas Day) in advance. It means Irish viewers will watch Irish channels to see these films and keep advertising revenue in Ireland and not send it up North (although I accept this is not the case on RTE ad-free Christmas day)

Dub13

Is it just the movies that are ad-free Christmas day on RTE...?