Wrongfully banned

cudman

Hello everyone.
I never knew that this part of the forums existed until I decided to follow up on an unfair ban I recieved last night from Marksie.
I was accused of arguing with a moderator (which I didnt). I was warned for an off topic post (which it wasnt) and proceeded to explain my actions.
This resulted in a ban. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055199943&page=2
As you can see I was more than polite in addressing the issue.

On another note, while I have been in here I read the "terry is out of order thread". Whilst I understand that mods are there to do a job I feel that some of them are under the impression that they are some kind of GOD or something. In fairness putting a gap before a full stop is hardly crime of the century, is it?
Some of the warnings I see other people getting are ridiculous.
I have never recieved a ban or warning before and I want this one rescinded.
Thank you.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

...and I want this one rescinded

god damnit.. a gem like this, and half of boards is off at the beers.

cudman

Yeah, I knew the night out was tonight. They can pore over it tomorrow when their heads are pounding
Im not going to let it drop, because its a completely unfair ban.
Just like the ban MrMicro recieved from politics and some other poster for allegedly advertising his wireless or something.
Interesting place this feedback area!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

you did argue with a mod. you just don't do that. they are the power, deal with it and come back in a week.

Karl Hungus

Ok, I've read the thread in question, and I think that a comment like "Apology accepted in advance" is just taking the piss. As I read the situation, you're just thumbing your nose at authority for being warned.

Sorry bucko, but no help from me.

copacetic

looks like an ok ban, a polite note from a mod pointing out that you don't 'call out' trolls on PI. You then argued anyway on thread and were a bit ignorant about it too.

Black Swan

cudman wrote: »

Im not going to let it drop, because its a completely unfair ban.

Boards.ie is a community. There are written and unwritten rules (the latter sometimes being more important to observe). If you want to be a part of this community, learn from this event and don't paint yourself into a corner. If you want change, then consider that you can get more done working with members overtime in our community than jumping-up-and-down making demands for change overnight.

cornbb

Just take the ban. Its not an unfair ban, PI threads are taken very seriously by the PI mods and there is zero tolerance on joking and off-topic posting. You can get away with being cheeky on most forums but not on PI. Maybe you didn't know that, if you didn't then write this off as a learning experience. In future if you are trying to blow the whistle on a troll use the report post function.

Mods are not "gods" as you put it, mod get banned too you know.

biko

Cudman: Banned Continued off topic posting and arguing with a mod in thread.

If you believe someone is trolling use the report button to bring the post to a moderators attention.

Hagar

I was going to come in and be supportive of the OP.
However I just checked the roster and I'm down for "Winding up bannees" tonight. We are a bit short staffed with the beers and all so I'll get back to you in a few minutes. In the meantime, take a deep breath and hold it. Oh yeah stamping your feet at the same time is often effective.

John

Wrongfully banned for a crime he did not commit, a lone man must take the law into his own hands. Fighting against injustice, grammar nazis and lolcats, his is a battle that never ends. This is the story of CUDMAN!

Barlow07

John wrote: »

Wrongfully banned for a crime he did not commit, a lone man must take the law into his own hands. Fighting against injustice, grammar nazis and lolcats, his is a battle that never ends. This is the story of CUDMAN!

I just read Cudman post and i dont believe he deserved his first warning and to ban him i think was a bit unfair, but i dont have the power to help.

DeVore

Lads, lets review it on its merit and not jump to conclusions. I'll review it tomorrow (late!!) because I'm dressed up and about to jump in a taxi to the beers
Tonight, I'm Neo... tomorrow I'll be Judge Dredd , lol.


DeV.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

i hope someone will be taking video of the ev... oh wait, nevermind.

Zaph

DeVore wrote: »

Lads, lets review it on its merit and not jump to conclusions.

But it's so much more fun jumping to conclusions.

DeVore

Mordeth wrote:

i hope someone will be taking video of the ev... oh wait, nevermind.

I was rather hoping they wouldnt, myself
Amazing when you think about it, there is almost no chance of going out these days but that someone has a video-phone or a pocket camcorder etc. The chances of this not being on youtube tomorrow are hellishly slim...



DeV.

Hivemind187

Looks to me like you picked the wrong forum to pick a fight.

You also got told how long it would be straight off - a gift not many mods have given by all accounts.

leeroybrown

I think the OP has failed to realise that PI is a special place and there is almost zero tolerance of breaches of charter by posters, particularly new posters.

Ruu_Old

Nope, not wrongful at all. Did you read the charter before posting? You were warned by 2 moderators but paid no heed.

cudman

Ok, just a few things to say.
Firstly Im not a new poster, I just dont post very often (60+ pposts).
I usually only post when I have something constructive to contribute about topics I would have knowledge of.
Secondly, what is the point of having a feedback forum when "the powers that be" dont take it seriously anyway? I have had a look through 3 or 4 of the threads in here and the bans been handed out are an absolute joke.

The two I have read about terry (who I have never had any dealings with) are disgraceful. Every thread in here then ends up with a dozen mods coming in and posting smart mouth comments, thinking they are hilarious...oh ha ha look at me im a funny man.

Its a great example you shining lights of boards.ie are setting. Its strange that a couple of the threads in here have been led way off topic by mods and no repercussions there.
Maybe some day if I just post nonsense, get my post count up to 4000 I too can become a mod and then run around my particular forum and ban people for joking. Then come in here and do the exact same thing without having to worry about being reprimanded. Oh the joy and self satisfaction of it all must be overwhelming

Gordon

cudman you are perfectly welcome to come back and post in PI when your ban is up. You don't seem to be taking anything on board though, unfortunately.

cudman

I am taking it on board gordon, but I wasnt the first to ask to see the pictures and I wasnt the first to wonder whether or not the op was a troll.
Yes I did read the charter and I dont see how posting a link to a golden pages ad on youtube was helpful either.
So if it is so strictly moderated, why werent the other people warned?
I will also make the point again...I did not argue with dudara, I just stated my reasons for the post.
As I said in my pm to marksie, I dont act the bollox in here and not one of my other posts in the last year have been either off topic or unhelpful.
And honestly it just seems to me that this whole feedback forum is one big playground for mods to come in and laugh at people who have been handed stupid bans.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

no, we laugh at people who are acting stupid because they have been handed appropriate bans.

Gordon

cudman wrote: »

I am taking it on board gordon, but I wasnt the first to ask to see the pictures and I wasnt the first to wonder whether or not the op was a troll.
Yes I did read the charter and I dont see how posting a link to a golden pages ad on youtube was helpful either.
So if it is so strictly moderated, why werent the other people warned?
I will also make the point again...I did not argue with dudara, I just stated my reasons for the post.
As I said in my pm to marksie, I dont act the bollox in here and not one of my other posts in the last year have been either off topic or unhelpful.
And honestly it just seems to me that this whole feedback forum is one big playground for mods to come in and laugh at people who have been handed stupid bans.

The ad for golden pages was a light hearted borderline comment. In this case the comment was left without comment by a mod. Your comment was a comment that is fairly popular on PI, we are used to people stating that they require picture verification. These types of comments are not the type of comment we want on PI, we prefer adult replies to adult problems.

OPs original 2nd post wrote:

Well actually go back and have a look at his opening post and he said if anyone doesnt believe him he has photos. Well I dont believe him so I merely said id need to see the photos before I could give advice.

I'm calling you out on that, I don't believe that those were your initial intentions, and i reckon Marksie felt that too possibly. Your use of a smilie in your first post on that thread leads me to believe that you were having a laugh.

Not sure why you keep bringing up the feedback forum on this thread, you could start a new thread to discuss your points maybe?

Most of your posts on PI seem to be very helpful so I do hope you come back when the ban is lifted.

Terry

cudman wrote: »

Hello everyone
.I never knew that this part of the forums existed until I decided to follow up on an unfair ban I recieved last night from Marksie
.I was accused of arguing with a moderator (which I didnt). I was warned for an off topic post (which it wasnt) and proceeded to explain my actions.
This resulted in a ban http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055199943&page=2
.As you can see I was more than polite in addressing the issue

.On another note, while I have been in here I read the "terry is out of order thread" . Whilst I understand that mods are there to do a job I feel that some of them are under the impression that they are some kind of GOD or something. In fairness putting a gap before a full stop is hardly crime of the century, is it?
Some of the warnings I see other people getting are ridiculous
.I have never recieved a ban or warning before and I want this one rescinded
.Thank you .

Ahh, in all fairness, I am quite god-like.

I resemble Buddha.

thefinalstage

Terry wrote: »

Ahh, in all fairness, I am quite god-like.

I resemble Buddha.

In width and height. An incredible likeness. Definitely not as peaceful though.

In the meantime:

http://badaboo.free.fr/merryxmas.swf

cudman

Terry wrote: »

Ahh, in all fairness, I am quite god-like.

I resemble Buddha.

Well sorry if it offends you but you seem quite idiot-like!

In reply to gordon, as you said yourself my posts have been helpful before but unless this ban is lifted I wouldnt be bothered posting again.
I have better things to be doing than dealing with little men that hide behind a keyboard
and let a bit of power go to their head.
If anyone decides to take it on themselves to ban me from here too for upsetting terry...BOO HOO. Im not bothered, as I said last night this feedback section is a little playground where the big cool mods can giggle away at themselves.
ps- the grin was in fact directed at the op and was intended to point out that I was calling him on the fact I didnt believe his post.

Hagar

Did you read the charter before you posted?
Have you even read it since you were banned?
I don't think any of it has sunk in yet, read it again.
Eventually you will figure out where you went wrong, maybe.

Marksie

Gordon wrote: »

I'm calling you out on that, I don't believe that those were your initial intentions, and i reckon Marksie felt that too possibly. Your use of a smilie in your first post on that thread leads me to believe that you were having a laugh.

Yes Gordon your surmise was correct. The fact that not one but two mods gave warnings also indicated that they felt it was in that vein.
That makes four moderators.
Given your subsequent long explanatory posts and the fact you didnt initially mention you thought he was trolling or even report the post. It doesn't cause me to reevaluate my initial decision

Your second post was in the same style and had an element of after the fact "explanation" with a sidehelping of sarcasm thrown in.

In the end when unbanned, it will be your decision whether to post in PI or not. Certainly you will be treated no differently to any other poster.

I have looked at the posts before your initial one and the mention of troll was in fact stating he hoped he was as it was lacking imagination.
That poster subsequently gave some advice. this type of show us the pics comment is as gordon says one which is extremely common and when observed gets a warning.

Oh and finally, i always give a reason and time for the ban, its simply courtesy in my book to do so.

If you dont see a time, assume he has been very naughty indeed..

cudman

Marksie wrote: »

Yes Gordon your surmise was correct. The fact that not one but two mods gave warnings also indicated that they felt it was in that vein.
That makes four moderators.
Given your subsequent long explanatory posts and the fact you didnt initially mention you thought he was trolling or even report the post. It doesn't cause me to reevaluate my initial decision

Your second post was in the same style and had an element of after the fact "explanation" with a sidehelping of sarcasm thrown in.

In the end when unbanned, it will be your decision whether to post in PI or not. Certainly you will be treated no differently to any other poster.

I have looked at the posts before your initial one and the mention of troll was in fact stating he hoped he was as it was lacking imagination.
That poster subsequently gave some advice. this type of show us the pics comment is as gordon says one which is extremely common and when observed gets a warning.

Oh and finally, i always give a reason and time for the ban, its simply courtesy in my book to do so.

If you dont see a time, assume he has been very naughty indeed..

oooh well look at gordon and marksie the big mind readers. they are able to not only tell me what I am thinnking, but they can also tell me I am wrong when I state what in fact I was thinking. Good work indeed.
Go **** yourselves the two of ye, sad bastards

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=54669996#post54669996


hahahahaha

welcome to siteban country, population you, rozie and a couple of thousand other muppets.

DeVore

oooh well look at gordon and marksie the big mind readers. they are able to not only tell me what I am thinnking, but they can also tell me I am wrong when I state what in fact I was thinking. Good work indeed.
Go **** yourselves the two of ye, sad bastards

Well, I was going to investigate all of this but frankly I dont think I'll bother now. Seriously, where do you get off with that attitude.

Dev.

cornbb

cudman wrote: »

oooh well look at gordon and marksie the big mind readers. they are able to not only tell me what I am thinnking, but they can also tell me I am wrong when I state what in fact I was thinking. Good work indeed.
Go **** yourselves the two of ye, sad bastards

Lol, way to successfully plead your case there cudman

Boston

This ban needs more anti.

Terry

cudman wrote: »

Well sorry if it offends you but you seem quite idiot-like!

In reply to gordon, as you said yourself my posts have been helpful before but unless this ban is lifted I wouldnt be bothered posting again.
I have better things to be doing than dealing with little men that hide behind a keyboard
and let a bit of power go to their head.
If anyone decides to take it on themselves to ban me from here too for upsetting terry...BOO HOO. Im not bothered, as I said last night this feedback section is a little playground where the big cool mods can giggle away at themselves.
ps- the grin was in fact directed at the op and was intended to point out that I was calling him on the fact I didnt believe his post.

You won't be banned for upsetting me. Mostly because you didn't upset me.
Anyway, insulting me will not help your case. Personal abuse doesn' go down well around here, as I'm sure you already know.

Edit: just saw he has been site banned.

miju

sitebanning was proper order after the tard starts spamming all the forums with the same post.

never really a clever idea is it see ya cudman enjoy the big black abyss that is bannesville

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

he's probably already halfway through the registration processs with notcudman, cudman67 and devorehasgayhair

miju

Mordeth wrote: »

devorehasgayhair

well in fairness it is a tad bit gay :p:p:p:p

i'm sorry dev , please do not smite me oh mighty smiter

Karl Hungus

miju

i'm willing to bet anything you've been dying to post that kitty picture for ages

dudara

Another eejit tries to fight the pwah. Ah well...

Terry

Date of Ban  	Banned Tard  	Date of Ban Lift  	Reason  	Righteous Admin
17-12-2007, 12:12 	cudwoman 	NEVER 	No thanks, go away. 	Gordon

Heh.

DeVore

I wrote a piece called "I have gay hair" and there is was a user named DeVoreIsGay, who resurrected as the wonderously imaginative "DeVoreIsGay2". You gotta love the internet...

DeV.

BuffyBot

e-Darwinism

oleras

DeVore wrote: »

I wrote a piece called "I have gay hair" and there is was a user named DeVoreIsGay, who resurrected as the wonderously imaginative "DeVoreIsGay2". You gotta love the internet...

DeV.

Hugh Grant type hair...Hmmmmm.... in memory of the OP.........

Pics or it didnt happen...........

Dragan

cudman wrote: »

Oh the joy and self satisfaction of it all must be overwhelming

It really is.

Crash

I can't quite remember which one of the two was going to be the token DeVore when i raised the idea of the "No DeVore's club" - pity that one was shot down :P

edit:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=75738

apparently it was "DeVoreIsGay20" or "DeVoreIsGay2" - we had yet to decide before it was unmercilessly shut down.

DeVore

Proper order!


The One True DeV.

eco

Marksie bans people for nothing

he banned me from p.i because i was having an affair on my wife and for no other reason

he should be fired

Boston

We'ed have to hire first in order to fire him. I'm sure one of the admins will get right on that.