The most stolen cars??

Johnny82

Hi,

I am looking at buying a new car, a Subaru Impreza 1.6 or 2.0 ltr variant. I did have a Toyota Glanza which was stolen.

Does anyone know what are the most stolen cars in Ireland/Dublin??

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Gone West

Civic is generally the most stolen car.

ciaran76

I was going to say Civic too but thats only from cars I see burnt out every week !

C_Breeze

anything jap , relatively quick thats parked in or near a skanger filled area is likely to be stolen or attempted

Johnny82

Thanks for the info guys. Would any of you know where I could find a list of the most stolen cars? Also, is a subaru impreza likely to be stolen?

craichoe

Johnny82 wrote: »

Thanks for the info guys. Would any of you know where I could find a list of the most stolen cars? Also, is a subaru impreza likely to be stolen?

Yes ... I know of one fellow who sold it because someone broke into his house to try and get the keys !

Curran

I'd say the Civic too - very bad reputation as being a target for thieves!

Curran

Johnny82 wrote: »

Thanks for the info guys. Would any of you know where I could find a list of the most stolen cars? Also, is a subaru impreza likely to be stolen?

If you are going for a WRX looking one - chances are some idiot is going to have a go at trying to steal it - even without knowing its not actually a WRX :rolleyes:

manti452

I think if you want to go down the road of buying souped up Jap imports or high performance desireable motors (like an Impreza or Type Rs, Audi's etc) you have to accept you will get some potentially unwanted attention.

As you've said before you've had one motor nicked. Dunno from your post if it was from outside your area or some parking lot etc.. but if you don't invest in a good security system for such a car.. you're asking for trouble imo.

2qk4u

I was talking to a Garda a while ago and he told me that small cars like micras,chinquichentos ect are the most popular because they rarely have alarms and are not parked in very secure places because people dont expect them to be stolen..

JHMEG

Johnny82 wrote: »

Thanks for the info guys. Would any of you know where I could find a list of the most stolen cars? Also, is a subaru impreza likely to be stolen?

Rather than taking people's opinions on it, contact the Irish Insurance Federation: http://www.iif.ie/office-contact.aspx

biko

If you buy a desirable car someone will desire it enough to try to nick it.

MuffinsDa

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auggie2k

It is Civics, my brother asked a few insurance companies while he was quoting a while back.

That's why the premiums are so high - drug dealers car.

Jap import civics. They had no security features to speak of until recently.

re jap imports. there is pretty much zero crime in Japan so they rarely bother with immobilisers which is what makes a car difficult to nick. scumbags know this and will look for the conveniently differently shaped numberplate....

woodseb

i reckon its the older Civics though, (i have a new model;) )

generally older models esp jap imports are stolen the most by petty theives and joyriders. most modern cars are too difficult for the average skanger(unless they steal your keys)

nytraveller

Here's Britain top ten list of most stolen cars from 2005


http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/about-us/news/car-theft-2006

:Pretty desperate thieves over there!! You'd have to pay me to steal some of these cars.

mike65

1985 surely?

Mike

Rowley Birkin QC

mike65 wrote: »

1985 surely?

Mike

Nostalgic car thiefs maybe?

Tipsy Mac

There are 2 classifications of cars which are robbed, the unimobilized and the stolen to order high spec cars. The unimobilised are mid to early 90's cars or Japanese imports. Stolen to order will usually envolve a house breakin for the keys as such cars can't normally be taken without them.

Earth Worm Jim

Old type cars - (pre immobilizer)

Civics (esp VTI) Accord
Golf (esp GTI)
Corrolas/carinas/starlets
BMW 3/5/7 sieries
Escort/fiesta/mondeo
Fiat punto
Nissan Micra/almera
Astra
Pajero

New cars (Mostly taken with keys from house)

BMW
Volvo
VW Golf (gti/r 32) - Passat (TDI/TFSI)
Audi A4
EVO
Impreza
Lexus
Landcruiser
Type R (anything)

Keith186

Someone robbed all the parts from my mated Civic, it was a souped up flash one.
Then he got an Impreza and siezed the engine after a while. They tried for half an hour to knick it, they even smashed his other cars window, took out the battery and put it in the Impreza to try get it going to no avail. It was all on camera.

drdre

I have heard Golf GTI's are stolen alot.Thats why theres a premium on insurance for these cars.

Masada

like others id say the civic, it takes literally about 30seconds to be able to drive off in an EG civic, there pretty quick aswell and i suppose this is partly why insurance is so expencive on them., depending on the year the impreza is likely to have an imobiliser so the only way they'll get it is to break into your house, this usualy only happens with high performance cars as they use them for robberies etc, the 1.6 imprezas are stuffed.,lol,

JHMEG

vtec wrote: »

like others id say the civic,

It's been 12 years since the last EG Civic was made, which was also the last Civic without an immobiliser.

In the broader scale of things there are fsck all EG Civics left, and therefore Civics could not be considered one of the most stolen cars.

Masada

im not sure where you live but theres not shortage of EGs around today, also was one of the most common imports and there still some being imported., i see them everywhere, and id say still the most stolen cars around,. Ive seen an awful lot of them burnt out.,

congo_90

2qk4u wrote: »

I was talking to a Garda a while ago and he told me that small cars like micras,chinquichentos ect are the most popular because they rarely have alarms and are not parked in very secure places because people dont expect them to be stolen..

Micras, etc as the poster above said, always an easy target. Just invest in some security system. Like an immobiliser. don't rely on factory fitted ones. If not. Get an alarm. If your really worried get one with an ignition cut-off button on the remote.

Max_Damage

In England anyway I remember hearing it was the Vauxhall Belmont (Opel Kadett saloon). I think 1 in 10 of all of those sold were stolen at some point.

TwoShedsJackson

Would a Honda Prelude feature highly on a list of cars scummers would be after?

JHMEG

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

Would a Honda Prelude feature highly on a list of cars scummers would be after?

Yes, especially, but not limited to the 2.2 vtec.

vtec wrote:

im not sure where you live but theres not shortage of EGs around today

They haven't been made in 12 years, so by defintion there are fewer and fewer on the roads. Every one that's been torched or crashed is one less.

There is nowhere near the amount of them around compared to when I owned one 8 years ago.

Darando

Keith186 wrote: »

Someone robbed all the parts from my mated Civic, it was a souped up flash one.
Then he got an Impreza and siezed the engine after a while. They tried for half an hour to knick it, they even smashed his other cars window, took out the battery and put it in the Impreza to try get it going to no avail. It was all on camera.

Now there is a video that would be worth a look!!!

Masada

JHMEG wrote: »

They haven't been made in 12 years, so by defintion there are fewer and fewer on the roads. Every one that's been torched or crashed is one less.

There is nowhere near the amount of them around compared to when I owned one 8 years ago.

obviously wont be as many, but most cars after 96 are immobilised so car theft it mainly with older cars excelt where they break into your house for the keys, thats not really that common though as the cars are needed for different reasons, (ie crime, whereas years ago it was mainly about joyriding)
someone also mentioned the punto being one of the top stolen, they only made a non immobilised one for under a year in 94 and anything after is immobilised., maybe ment the uno before it, they were very common.,

TychoCaine

JDM imports seem to be the most frequently stolen. The insurance companies over here (well Germany actually) put their foot down during the 90's and said that they'd hugely load premiums on cars without immobilisers, so every manufacturer has fitted them as standard since.

Nothing like that happened in Japan, so even models with apparently identical European sold equivalents can just be driven away, unlike the Euro-spec ones that won't even start.

beatman91

Civic, I had 3 of them stolen. One last week. Alarm was disconnected for nct as the doors automaticly lock when engine is on.

Its always the one time you let your guard down.

I'm not kidding now it took him 1 min to steal it. As I just ran into the house for something.

Del2005

congo_90 wrote: »

Micras, etc as the poster above said, always an easy target. Just invest in some security system. Like an immobiliser. don't rely on factory fitted ones. If not. Get an alarm. If your really worried get one with an ignition cut-off button on the remote.

That has to be some of the worst advice I've seen here and you haven't even read the thread. The cars without factory fitted immobilisers are the ones that are stolen. The scumbags know how to defeat most of the aftermarket ones. My last car was broken into and attempted to be stolen, it had an aftermarker immobiliser but they didn't care. New car is factory fitted and they haven't gone near it.

On new cars with factory fitted immobilisers the alarm companies usually don't even add their own immobiliser as it messes with the ECU and can cause problems, they just leave the factory one as it's the best. Most low end new cars aren't stolen anymore unless by an opportunist thief at a petrol station or from outside houses when people are defrosting them.

Most thiefs will break into houses for good cars but not for run abouts.

Del2005

beatman91 wrote: »

Civic, I had 3 of them stolen. One last week. Alarm was disconnected for nct as the doors automaticly lock when engine is on.

Why did you disconnect the alarm for the NCT? The people working in the test centre know how to open doors, even if they lock themselve. They always leave the drivers window down in case the car locks itself.

BTW sorry to hear about the loss, pain in hole.

S.I.R

Regardless of any car mentioned theres alot of each model stolen... you just have to be able to spot which one... generally you can tell by the seller.

imo the most stolen civics starlets primera's impreza's 206's ...


generally car's you shouldn't want....

besides you siad you had a stolen " gt" so why dont you just go steal another ? :mad:


aslo all them cars and more can be opened with a tennis ball let alone doing anything silly like bending the door or such... makes em eazier to steal , regardless of there halfords 50 euro alarm :rolleyes:

zilog_jones

Del2005 wrote: »

On new cars with factory fitted immobilisers the alarm companies usually don't even add their own immobiliser as it messes with the ECU and can cause problems, they just leave the factory one as it's the best. Most low end new cars aren't stolen anymore unless by an opportunist thief at a petrol station or from outside houses when people are defrosting them.

This may be the case for newer cars, but older factory-fitted immobilisers are by no means inpenetrable. I have a What Car magazine from '99 here where they tested 77 cars for security, and they were able to drive away 24 of them with "common tools". They all had immobilisers (it was law in the UK by then).

mike65 wrote:

1985 surely?

People seem to hold on to their cars longer in the UK, somehow. I was last in England in 2000/2001 and was shocked to see the amount of old shyte like Cavaliers (even a Mk. I!), Sierras, etc. still on the road there. It was weird...

Sizzler

Curran wrote: »

I'd say the Civic too - very bad reputation as being a target for thieves!

Why so Its not exactly a high performance car! Presumably they are piss easy to break into?

JHMEG

beatman91 wrote: »

I'm not kidding now it took him 1 min to steal it. As I just ran into the house for something.

You need to move house! What model was it?

E92

In Cork there are a lot of EG's still around the place(relative to the age of the car, there are lots of BMW E30s too, and there are still plenty of E36's as well), but seeing an EG that still has only OEM parts on it is about as frequent as Christmas.

Practically all EG's are modified(and a non OEM stereo is NOT a modified car), and there are plenty of JDMs too.

slipss

Sizzler wrote: »

Why so Its not exactly a high performance car! Presumably they are piss easy to break into?

Thats pretty much it, they are well known for being easy to steal, not that they are much easier, or other un-immobilised cars are much harder but they are reasonably fun to drive (joyride) compared to their counterparts, and the optimum breaking and starting method has been passed down from generation to generation of scumbag. Going back to the early 80's older scumbags would be tearing around the roads in robbed ones and the slighly younger scumbags would see them driving it and ask them for a spin and in doing so be regailed with the tale and technique of the theft.

Masada

Sizzler wrote: »

Why so Its not exactly a high performance car! Presumably they are piss easy to break into?

compared to most other cars that can be stolen in under 60sec the civic is a pretty quick machine, thats without taking into concideration the vtec ones.,
funny thing is the older 88-91 civic was harder to steal than the later 92-95 civic. next to that car any pre 94ish fiat, pre 95 mirca's and a few others caould be taken with very little effort with the help of a 2way screwdriver or even just a key in the case of the mirca and fiats.,
Beatman your not having any luck with cars at all lately., did you get it back yet?

JHMEG

vtec wrote: »

a few others caould be taken with very little effort with the help of a 2way screwdriver or even just a key in the case of the mirca and fiats.,

Did you ever see the trick with the hazard lights switch in the late 80s-early 90s (boxy) Corsa?

beatman91

vtec wrote: »

compared to most other cars that can be stolen in under 60sec the civic is a pretty quick machine, thats without taking into concideration the vtec ones.,
funny thing is the older 88-91 civic was harder to steal than the later 92-95 civic. next to that car any pre 94ish fiat, pre 95 mirca's and a few others caould be taken with very little effort with the help of a 2way screwdriver or even just a key in the case of the mirca and fiats.,
Beatman your not having any luck with cars at all lately., did you get it back yet?

The previous special edition had bent chassis so that needs to be scrapped!

And this one still in gannons waiting for prints. They had the car 15 min and managed to smash the front. Nothing major thou. The had a choice of 3 hondas outside but went for the one without a flashing light(alarm).

Like vtec said all the cars above you can steel with a spoon.

Most new cars with immobilisers are left alone, or stolen to order but then they come in to take the keys.

I actually live in a very quiet area and at the end of a cul the sac but it makes no difference. Cars go missing all the time.

The copper said to me that they do nothing with these cars, drive them to a field and burn them out. I saw the kid who took the last one so hopefully we get a conviction.

A few years back I was in court, testified and the guy got 6 months.

JHMEG

beatman91 wrote: »

A few years back I was in court, testified and the guy got 6 months.

That's very unusual.

BlackWizard

I came in thinking this is were we brag about the amount of cars we stole

beatman91

JHMEG wrote: »

That's very unusual.

I was lucky, the copper was great too.

So how many did you steal BlackWizard?

Masada

you should fit a trip switch on them in future beatman., i always do, aswell as an alarm and immobiliser and a nice long torque wrench behind the door incase i catch them in the act.,
shame about the special ed., I love those civics.,

JHMEG

vtec wrote: »

you should fit a trip switch on them in future beatman.

Like a mercury trip switch.. and some semtex?