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[OC log] (\/)0n0L17(-) II
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CPU Multiplier: 6
FSB – Memory Clock Mode: linked
CPU FSB Mhz: 1600
RAM FSB Mhz: 800
FSB Memory Ratio: Sync mode
Timings
TCL: 4
TRCD: 4
TRP: 3
TRAS: 10
CMD: 2
TRRD: 3
TRC: 24
TWR: 5
TWTR: 14
TREF: Auto
Volts
CPU Core: 1.29
CPU FSB: 1.2
Memory: 2.2
Nforce SPP: 1.25
Nforce MCP: 1.5
HT nForce SPP <-> MCP: 1.2
Time Ran (hrs): 9.5
Memtest86: PASS
Ok i'm really starting to hate this motherboard :mad: I passed at these settings last night. So I wanted to see if having the CPU divider down at 6 could be loosening the latencies. So I tried these settings
CPU Multiplier: 8
FSB – Memory Clock Mode: linked
CPU FSB Mhz: 1200
RAM FSB Mhz: 800
FSB Memory Ratio: 3:2
Wouldn't BOOT, after a few automatic retries the BIOS went into safemode. So I tried this
CPU Multiplier: 10
FSB – Memory Clock Mode: linked
CPU FSB Mhz: 800
RAM FSB Mhz: 800
FSB Memory Ratio: 1:1
Wouldn't BOOT again... WHY??? I have no idea. Yet running
CPU Multiplier: 10
FSB – Memory Clock Mode: linked
CPU FSB Mhz: 1000
RAM FSB Mhz: 800
FSB Memory Ratio: 5:4
boots just fine??? I can't get my head around it, how a CPU FSB of 800 is problem, 1000 isn't a problem and 1200 is a problem
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Ok I couldn't get 4-3-3-9 1T stable at 2.2v. So I wanted to see what kind of performance increase just changing the CR would have. I remember on my AMD board the CR gives a bit of a jump in performance at 1T
CPU Multiplier: 10
FSB – Memory Clock Mode: unlinked
CPU FSB Mhz: 1066
RAM FSB Mhz: 800
FSB Memory Ratio: Auto
Timings
TCL: 4
TRCD: 4
TRP: 4
TRAS: 12
CMD: 1
TRRD: 3
TRC: 24
TWR: 5
TWTR: 14
TREF: Auto
Volts
CPU Core: 1.3
CPU FSB: 1.2
Memory: 2.2
Nforce SPP: 1.25
Nforce MCP: 1.5
HT nForce SPP <-> MCP: 1.2
Time Ran (hrs): 8.2
Memtest86: PASS
Results:
Thats a pretty nice jump in performance. I'm going to see if I can lower any of the other timings seperately to get the maximum stable performance.
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CPU Multiplier: 10
FSB – Memory Clock Mode: unlinked
CPU FSB Mhz: 1066
RAM FSB Mhz: 800
FSB Memory Ratio: Auto
Timings
TCL: 4
TRCD: 3
TRP: 3
TRAS: 9
CMD: 2
TRRD: 3
TRC: 24
TWR: 5
TWTR: 14
TREF: Auto
Volts
CPU Core: 1.3
CPU FSB: 1.2
Memory: 2.2
Nforce SPP: 1.25
Nforce MCP: 1.5
HT nForce SPP <-> MCP: 1.2
Time Ran (hrs): 8.0
Memtest86: PASS
hmm... looks like i'm better off with 1T :rolleyes:
Right, i'm done with this RAM. I wanted to get it above 8000MB/s read but that's not going to happen unless I overclock it from within windows which will force the strap not to change. But i'm not prepared to take that risk.
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PogMoThoin wrote: »I don't try to tighten timings, i loosen them & push for higher fsb, more gains that way. But i didn't gain much on these ocz sticks, hopefully new gskills (in my sig) i'll have when my mam returns from Usa will oc a bit better.
I think I agree with you. I tried testing 4-4-4-9 CR1 last night and i'm getting a worse score than at 4-4-4-12 CR1. I asked about this on the Mushkin forums and they said this is normal as tightening the timings also has the affect of loosening the NB latencies (which can't be controlled
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It seems a bit misleading for RAM suppliers to charge more for tighter timings when they give near to no increase in performance.
My other problem is that I can't increase the FSB either, as, due to strap changes, it also has the affect of reducing performance rather than increasing it.
I'll give overclocking the CPU a shot now and hope for the best. My only hope is that because my CPU has an unlocked multiplier I won't have to increase the FSB too much.0 -
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TheThreeDegrees wrote: »Nice you can change your multiplier.I dont seem to have that option.
See youve loosened your timings also.
Thanks for the link on the other thread.
Yeah, any Intel CPU with an "X" in the name usually means it has an unlocked multiplier. (i.e. yours is a Q6600 so it doesn't, mines a QX6700) Like Pog said, it doesn't mean it can't be lowered though.
Here are some bench screens, from that link I gave you with bench programs I found this german PI program for benching all 4 cores called MaxPI Multicore
@ 2667Mhz
@ 3100Mhz
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PogMoThoin wrote: »http://extremeoverclock.org/category/download/tweak-overclock/stressing/
Its version 25.4 thats multicore, not sure if its out of beta stage but it works fine. I used occt for a quick 30min test while pushing for max fsb & prime 95 for an overnight torture test.
cheers... i'll give it a shot when I get home (working xmas eve)
Something i've noticed with my temps, since putting the 8800GTX into my P180 i've found my CPU temps have gone up from 28'c idle to 40'c after having the machine on for a few hours. I put this down to the fact that the 8800GTX is so long it basically partitions the main compartment in 2, stopping air from the middle intake fan getting to the RAM and CPU. Theres also the added heat being spewed out by the 8800GTX. I think this is what killed my last set of RAM. I had had the PC on for a few days so I guess the heat just built up on the RAM and eventually killed them. I have no way of getting an air intake around the RAM so i'm just going to leave the side off, the noise levels are also a lot lower as I don't have to have all my fans running at high RPMs to get the same level of cooling. I have a can-o-air to deal with the inevitable dust that will be caused by this.0 -
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TheThreeDegrees wrote: »would you not up the voltage on the CPU?
How high can you go anyways?
I did, I said i was going to increase the volts to 1.35v, which worked out good
i'm now stable at 3.2Ghz
CPU Multiplier: 12
FSB – Memory Clock Mode: linked
CPU FSB Mhz: 1066
RAM FSB Mhz: ~<800
FSB Memory Ratio: 4:3
Timings
TCL: 5
TRCD: 5
TRP: 5
TRAS: 15
CMD: 2
TRRD: 3
TRC: 24
TWR: 5
TWTR: 14
TREF: Auto
Volts
CPU Core: 1.35
CPU FSB: 1.2
Memory: 2.2
Nforce SPP: 1.25
Nforce MCP: 1.5
HT nForce SPP <-> MCP: 1.2
Time Ran (hrs): 8
OCCT: PASS
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Stable at 3.3Ghz, loading around 62'c on each core now.
CPU Multiplier: 12
FSB – Memory Clock Mode: linked
CPU FSB Mhz: 1100
RAM FSB Mhz: 734
FSB Memory Ratio: 4:3
Timings
TCL: 5
TRCD: 5
TRP: 5
TRAS: 15
CMD: 2
TRRD: 3
TRC: 24
TWR: 5
TWTR: 14
TREF: Auto
Volts
CPU Core: 1.35
CPU FSB: 1.2
Memory: 2.2
Nforce SPP: 1.25
Nforce MCP: 1.5
HT nForce SPP <-> MCP: 1.2
Time Ran (hrs): 8
OCCT: PASS
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i'm stable now at 3.4Ghz, but it's coming at a price... my load temps are hitting 80'c as my volts are up to 1.45v now. Don't know if i'd be happy pushing them much further, so I think i'm going to drop back down to 3.3Ghz @ 1.4v for everyday use. I'm going to investigate also if there are any other settings I can change, besides CPU volts, that can stabilize 3.4Ghz.
CPU Multiplier: 12
FSB – Memory Clock Mode: linked
CPU FSB Mhz: 1132
RAM FSB Mhz: ~750
FSB Memory Ratio: 4:3
Timings
TCL: 5
TRCD: 5
TRP: 5
TRAS: 15
CMD: 2
TRRD: 3
TRC: 24
TWR: 5
TWTR: 14
TREF: Auto
Volts
CPU Core: 1.45
CPU FSB: 1.2
Memory: 2.2
Nforce SPP: 1.25
Nforce MCP: 1.5
HT nForce SPP <-> MCP: 1.2
Time Ran (hrs): 8
OCCT: PASS
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PogMoThoin wrote: »Just goes to show ya why extreme edition intel chips are not worth it (unless they come at a knockdown price), they're only for extreme enthusiasts to put under phase or ln2. I got my q6600 to 3.6 with similar voltage & temps and i can run at 3.3Ghz 24/7 with the same cooler, only difference is i lapped mine.
Hopefully you'll tweak your voltages a bit & get 3.4 at lower temps. Good luck m8
got mine fairly cheap though, it was around the time a lot of people where shedding their QX6700's fearing the cheaper Q6600's. Can't believe some people paid near a grand for these things when they first came out. The main reason I got this chip so cheap was that the seller knew it had a heat problem. Still I like a challenge I've also lapped my quad and Tuniq to a mirror finish and installed a higher CFM fan. The problem is the CPU is generating heat faster than the metal (or the liquid in the copper pipes) can conduct it. Aside from using a TEC, water or ln2 I doubt i'm going to get much better. But i'll still try over the next week or so to see if increasing the other voltages, or lowering the HT multiplier will have any affect. I might also lower the multiplier and increase the FSB and see if that has an affect.
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