The Boards.ie Accumulator

cson

Righto, there seems to be some interest in creating a thread like this, so I said I'd take the initiative.

Ok, so we'll lay a few ground rules first;

• All Major Leagues & European Competitions
  - Premier League
  - Championship
  - League 1
  - League 2
  - SPL
  - La Liga
  - Serie A
  - Ligue Un
  - Bundesliga
  
  -FA Cup
• Must be minimum 4 fold accum
• Max 6 fold Accumulator
• Everyone starts with €20
• Max 6 selctions per week
• Odds are taken from paddypower.com only
• Weekend football only for now.
• Weekend matches are Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon

So everyone starts at €20, and we'll see who ends up top tipster. Unfortunately the only prizes we have at the minute is the self satisfaction of being the best tipster (And of course all the money you'll have if you follow your tips )

I threw in the few rules just to give it a foundation, but of course they can be changed or new ones added that might help our "comp". I'm iffy about the first rule, but i think its not a bad idea because its the leagues that most will be familiar with. Tempted to include the continent but.....

Any suggestions?

Bubs101

The first rule is ridiculous. Just keep it to any League on a betting slip and the big ones in Europe. Smallest European Leagues alowoed should be the Dutch and Portuguese.

In other words, no Belgian or Turkish bets.

Otherwise, good idea.

Also, NO AFTERPOSTING (and I realise I'm one of the bigger culprits )

mox54

i'm sticking to the premiership and a few others in the champions league but that's it, it gets too complicated after that, keep it simple but also i'll be looking for certain winners, also, can we copy bets from each other, e.g. if I pick 6 and see a few from elsewhere that seem certain then I'd like to use them if I could, have a cut off time for final entry or something or is this all too complicated.............a good idea nonetheless.

cson

Ok so here goes;

Competitor: cson
Bank: €20
% Win/Loss: 0%
League Place: =1

Selection;
Chelsea 1/6
Man Utd 1/10
Liverpool 4/9
Everton 4/7

€10 Accumulator. Potential Return: €31.69

*(Propose we nominate Powers as the only source for prices to avoid price differences)
*(Propose we have a cut off time for selections - 10pm Friday for Weekend games and 10pm Monday for Champions League Games)

IrishMike

Man Utd (-1) 3/10
Everton 4/7
Chelsea v Sunderland (over 1.5) 1/5
Reading v Liverpool (over 1.5) 3/10
Charlton + Draw 1/5
Wolves v Burnley (over 1.5) 2/5
Naploi 8/11
Valladolid + draw 8/15
Villareal 1/2

€5 pays €106.35

Southend and Everton in a double

€10 pays €28.29

jameshayes

Leeds @ 1 - 2
Chelsea @ 1 - 6
Man Utd @ 1 - 10
Liverpool @ 4 - 7
Man City @ 3 - 1

€5 pays 60.50


(quick Q about PP. is there any way to change it to decimal odds)

IrishMike

James down on the LHS near the bottom it says site settings
Allows you to change to decimal odds

jameshayes

great thanks, i'm normally a betfair/coral man!

p.u.d.z.e.r.

Chelsea 1/6
Man Utd -2 10/11
Liverpool 4/7
Arsenal 1/2
Newcastle 5/6

€5 pays 48.10

Dun laoire

Just the one bet for me.

Total bank 20
Bet staked 1
Bank bal 19

Man united 1/10 1 euro win

cson

Dun laoire wrote: »

Just the one bet for me.

Total bank 20
Bet staked 1
Bank bal 19

Man united 1/10 1 euro win

To win 10c

Its profit I guess though.

threebeards

Dun laoire wrote: »

Just the one bet for me.

Total bank 20
Bet staked 1
Bank bal 19

Man united 1/10 1 euro win

'fraid not - €1 bet returns €0.10

Edit: misread your post. I thought you were saying 1/10 Utd, €1 bet to win €1. apologies Dun laoire

growler

ok so 3 six folds for me:

1. £2 on wins for chelsea, villa, man u , celtic, pool, everton :
pays £16

2. £2 on draws for villa and everton, wins for celtic, chelsea, man usa and pool : pays £54

3. £4 on wins for chelsea, man u , pool, celtic , leeds and cardiff. :
pays £30.50

keeping £12 in reserve for the mid week mayhem :-)

Dun laoire

cson wrote: »

To win 10c

Its profit I guess though.

#

If i double my bank by retirement i'l be happy. 36 years to do it

Dun laoire

threebeards wrote: »

'fraid not - €1 bet returns €0.10

Edit: misread your post. I thought you were saying 1/10 Utd, €1 bet to win €1. apologies Dun laoire

Apology accepted my good man

IrishMike

Seems you have a tortoise vs the hare strategy going there Dun Laoire
Best of luck with that

mox54

I've done the following:

manure v derby manure win
middlesb v arsenal arsenal win
reading v l'pool liverpool win
chelski v sunderland chelski win
villareal v betis vilareal win
newcastle v b'ham newcastle win
barca v deportiva barca win
wolves v burnley wolves win
blackburn v west ham blackburn win
athletico bilbao v r madrid madrid win

10 euros accum gives 651 win approx, wouldn't put 20 euros on such a longshot,

Dun laoire

IrishMike wrote: »

Seems you have a tortoise vs the hare strategy going there Dun Laoire
Best of luck with that

Would you bet against me having the most money left in the bank by Monday morning??

IrishMike

Dun laoire wrote: »

Would you bet against me having the most money left in the bank by Monday morning??

It might happen but i would definitely bet against it

Sizzler

A nice handy treble

Prices from PP as agreed:

Spurs win : 10/11
Villa win: 11/10
Blackburn win: 5/6

A tenner treble returns €73.50

growler

I think it only fair that the rules preclude betting on spurs to win any game, otherwise we could have a lot of tears on this thread.

Bubs101

Shouldn't one of the rules be it must be an acca?

kenco

Competitor: kenco
Bank: €20
% Win/Loss: 0%
League Place: =oh dear!

Selection;
Villa/Portsmouth - draw
Everton - win
Newcastle - win

Approx €114 for a €5 trixie (with following wind)

cson

Bubs101 wrote: »

Shouldn't one of the rules be it must be an acca?

Fair point.

Sizzler

Bubs101 wrote: »

Shouldn't one of the rules be it must be an acca?

I thought that was a given considering the title of the thread

cson

Ok, an updated version of the rules. Any bets in before this still stand.

1. All Major Leagues & European Competitions
   - Premier League
   - Championship
   - League 1
   - League 2
   - SPL
   - La Liga
   - Serie A
   - Ligue Un
   - Bundesliga
   
   -FA Cup
   
2. Must be minimum 4 fold accum
   
3. Max 6 fold Accumulator
   
4. Everyone starts with €20
   
5. Max 6 selctions per week
   
6. Odds are taken from paddypower.com only
   
7. Weekend football only for now.
   
8. Weekend matches are Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon

jameshayes

*Handshakes* on the rules

apeking

1 Chelsea v Sunderland Chelsea to Win 1/6
2 Everton v Fulham Everton to Win 4/7
3 Man Utd v Derby Man Utd to Win 1/10
4 Newcastle v Birmingham Newcastle to Win 4/5
5 Aston Villa v Portsmouth Villa to Win 11/10


20 Euro bet to win 152.46

Bubs101

Sizzler wrote: »

I thought that was a given considering the title of the thread

you'd think that but someone put 1 euro on United

Bubs101

Ok here's mine;

20 on

Chelsea 1-6
Man Utd 1-10
Bayern 1-7
Hamburg 3-10

For 18.15 profit

Dun laoire

Bubs101 wrote: »

you'd think that but someone put 1 euro on United

I am accumulating them. Doesnt say they have to be all done at once. When Uts win i'l make sure my profit goes onto the next bet. Watch this space brother Bubs.

IrishMike

IrishMike wrote: »

Man Utd (-1) 3/10
Everton 4/7
Chelsea v Sunderland (over 1.5) 1/5
Reading v Liverpool (over 1.5) 3/10
Charlton + Draw 1/5
Wolves v Burnley (over 1.5) 2/5
Naploi 8/11
Valladolid + draw 8/15
Villareal 1/2

€5 pays €106.35

Southend and Everton in a double

€10 pays €28.29

Southend and Everton both won.

First 6 of my accumulator came in, waiting on the last 3 who play
tonight/tomorrow
Another good day at the office.

Had another 40 on Torres to score and liverpool to win @ 7-4
cant win em all though

kenco

Not great all in all but got around €14 back on the €20 stake so a loss of €6 this week.

dacman

IrishMike wrote: »

Southend and Everton both won.

First 6 of my accumulator came in, waiting on the last 3 who play
tonight/tomorrow
Another good day at the office.

Had another 40 on Torres to score and liverpool to win @ 7-4
cant win em all though

GL. I havent bet in a long time but I stuck a few quid on this one

IrishMike

Which one? Hope you are talking about Southend and Everton.
Worked out well

dacman

IrishMike wrote: »

Which one? Hope you are talking about Southend and Everton.
Worked out well

no i did the accumulator

IrishMike

Ah right
Napoli will be the only team that could let us down.
Cross the fingers!

L'prof

Dun laoire wrote: »

I am accumulating them. Doesnt say they have to be all done at once. When Uts win i'l make sure my profit goes onto the next bet. Watch this space brother Bubs.

I don't see anything wrong with that...so it wil be €1.10 on your next bet so? You can't do that more than 6 times though from the rules!

What do you think cson, is this allowed?

IrishMike

jasonorr wrote: »

I don't see anything wrong with that...so it wil be €1.10 on your next bet so? You can't do that more than 6 times though from the rules!

What do you think cson, is this allowed?

Well to be fair it defeats the purpose dont you think?
If this was a betting competition it would not be a problem
Its not though its an accumulator which is at least 4 bets together
Surely 4 bets over the course of an entire weekend is not too much to work out?
Oh and why is there an upper limit of 6?
Most of my accumulators are between 6 and 10 sometimes even higher

A bet on four or more races, where the original money bet and any money won are bet on the next race, so that the better either wins a lot of money or loses it all.

clickerquicklic

hey lads am i too late for this.
if not i'll try .

Arsenal 1.50
Adebayor anytime 2.10
Anelka anytime 2.40
Inter milan win 1.22


10 euro returns 99.00

Dun laoire

IrishMike wrote: »

Well to be fair it defeats the purpose dont you think?
If this was a betting competition it would not be a problem
Its not though its an accumulator which is at least 4 bets together
Surely 4 bets over the course of an entire weekend is not too much to work out?
Oh and why is there an upper limit of 6?
Most of my accumulators are between 6 and 10 sometimes even higher

The bookie must love you fella

IrishMike

Far from it.
A small stake on a 30-1 accumulator wont make a bookie rich.
Big bets on single events is what makes/loses money not accumulators.
Im well up over the last 6 months on the gambling stakes.
Not really a problem when you are gambling money you have taken from the bookies

Dun laoire

IrishMike wrote: »

Far from it.
A small stake on a 30-1 accumulator wont make a bookie rich.
Big bets on single events is what makes/loses money not accumulators.
Im well up over the last 6 months on the gambling stakes.
Not really a problem when you are gambling money you have taken from the bookies

Fair play if you're pulling them off but a 6/10 team accumulators are extremely difficult regardless of the odds. I tried it last year a few times and always i repeat ALWAYS one will let you down. Bayern munich murdered me last year when they were 1/8 at home to win. Sure look at Celtic, Liverpool and Arsenal over the weekend. Bookies must've cleaned up

dotsflan

When it comes to big accums i always think of the tayto ad THERES ALWAYS ONE!!! the point of doing big accums is for a bit of fun and maybe one day getting it right and making a mint!!!!!!

IrishMike

True true.
I try and avoid home bankers at 1-10.
I mostly stick to 2-5 or 3-10 home win/draw bets.
Napoli yesterday were an example.
There is no value in backing the likes of united vs derby as in 10 games there is
always a score draw or something to that effect.
6 or 8 teams in win/draw accumulators for a few euro is much better in my experience.
Then again it is gambling so there are always let downs (ie villarreal yesterday)

Dun laoire

IrishMike wrote: »

True true.
I try and avoid home bankers at 1-10.
I mostly stick to 2-5 or 3-10 home win/draw bets.
Napoli yesterday were an example.
There is no value in backing the likes of united vs derby as in 10 games there is
always a score draw or something to that effect.
6 or 8 teams in win/draw accumulators for a few euro is much better in my experience.
Then again it is gambling so there are always let downs (ie villarreal yesterday)

Man United to me was a 100% banker without ever even a slight amount of doubt. If i had 10k i wouldve put it on for the easiest 1k profit. We generally follow EPL so we pretty much know what Derby are like. Derby are the whipping boys this year. Liverpool and Arsenal both away from home was just ever so slightly dodgy but Man United never ever in doubt. Those European teams i just dont know enough about to place big wagers on.

IrishMike

True but the same could have been said about Arsenal playing the 2nd bottom team in the
premiership or WBA last week TWICE !!!!!
Upsets are always on the cards thats why its gambling

lolkelly

IrishMike wrote: »

True but the same could have been said about Arsenal playing the 2nd bottom team in the
premiership or WBA last week TWICE !!!!!
Upsets are always on the cards thats why its gambling

Stupid comparisons IMO. Arsenal were missing alot of players. M'boro were at home and have experience in the premiership. Derby on the other hand are probably the worst team ever in the prem.

Also, the championships is always tricky and I dont think anyone would call home games at Coventry and Crystle Palace bankers...They both sit towards the middle of the table.

raheny red

Right here I go - €1 acc on Liverpool draw, Chelsea draw, Porto win, and Schalke win. Pays out €22.77

IrishMike

lolkelly wrote: »

Stupid comparisons IMO. Arsenal were missing alot of players. M'boro were at home and have experience in the premiership. Derby on the other hand are probably the worst team ever in the prem.

Also, the championships is always tricky and I dont think anyone would call home games at Coventry and Crystle Palace bankers...They both sit towards the middle of the table.

Wasnt a comparison it was an illustration of the fact that because a team is a
tiny price doesnt mean they are worth betting on.
Arsenal were 1-3 again Boro, oh and Arsenal were missing Fabregas and Hleb
that was it.

As for WBA vs conventry i backed WBA as a banker to win either half @ 1-4
A team who scored 2 goals a home match vs a team who conceded 1.5 goals an away match
Very very strong bet and as close to a banker as you would find
At the time WBA hadnt lost in 8 games

lolkelly

IrishMike wrote: »

Wasnt a comparison it was an illustration of the fact that because a team is a
tiny price doesnt mean they are worth betting on.
Arsenal were 1-3 again Boro, oh and Arsenal were missing Fabregas and Hleb
that was it.

As for WBA vs conventry i backed WBA as a banker to win either half @ 1-4
A team who scored 2 goals a home match vs a team who conceded 1.5 goals an away match
Very very strong bet and as close to a banker as you would find
At the time WBA hadnt lost in 8 games

Arseanl were 1/2 (not a tiny price!) against M'boro with Paddy P as far as i remember! Plus they were also missing van persie and flamini!