Smart Telecom IPTV Trial - For Boardsies

Vexorg

Smart Telecom are looking for 50 boards.ie users to go on their latest IPTV trail.

To be eligible you must have a Smart Telecom Broadband connection and at least one TV.

Please send the following information to iptvtrial@boards.ie

Phone number
Location of phone line in residence
Location of all TV to be served.

The location of the phone line and tvs are required to determine the best way to get the signal to the box.

If we can get the required number to trial the service, we will set up a forum to discuss and share information on the trial.

If you could post on the therad here also if you have mailed, will double check to make sure no one has missed an opportunity.

Vexorg

flogen

I sent a mail in - would be interested but have one or two questions about what effect this would have on current contracts with other providers.

Vexorg

Vexorg wrote: »

To be eligible you must have a Smart Telecom Broadband connection and at least one TV.

I am pretty sure you must have smart broadband to be on the trial and will double check that point for you.

byte

I have Smart broadband myself, and a TV ideally situated near the router and PC.

However, as I'll be moving soon, there's little point in me applying.

I'll sticky this thread.

Solair

Mail sent!
Smart BB customer.

davejay

Also sent a mail.

amandac

i have also sent a mail

Tazz T

This might seem like a silly question but is this available to Smartvision customers or is our service already IPTV?

pauld

does not reflect well on smart that there is a typo error on the ad.

Solair

Just wondering when we will hear back about this trial and when it will be kicking off?

Boston

Mail sent

TheBannerMan

Mail Sent

remoteboy

Gah! I'm a Smart customer and I'd love to try this but I'm moving house in the New Year!

When are they coming out to Donabate?

SimonMaher

Email sent

belmulletman

Mail Sent...

Tony R.

Mothy

Email sent.

Tim

Mountjoy Mugger

Sent

RangeR

EMail sent

bigtom71

Just sent a mail.
Tom...

PixelTrawler

Hi

I have emailed in (via the same email address I have registered on boards).

bucks73

Mail sent.

BaconZombie

Email sent Today would of emailed yesterday but had to find my Phone number

I'm really interested in testing IPTV so I can finally cancel my NTL......

I also want to see if it working with my N800, portable internet and TV

watty

True IPTV service usually uses a dedicated Set Box. Not the same as Internet or Web TV.

You do need to be Smart Telecom Broadband customer, probably with at least 8Mbps plus for this trial.

IPTV (unless on fibre) does not generally support multiroom or HD. Unless there is a large Video on Demand catalogue, it's inherently poorer than Satellite and good cable services (UPC is still upgrading... when they are done they will have Broacast TV superior to IPTV and also IPTV/VOD via the broadband part of their service).

BaconZombie

watty wrote: »

True IPTV service usually uses a dedicated Set Box. Not the same as Internet or Web TV.

You do need to be Smart Telecom Broadband customer, probably with at least 8Mbps plus for this trial.

IPTV (unless on fibre) does not generally support multiroom or HD. Unless there is a large Video on Demand catalogue, it's inherently poorer than Satellite and good cable services (UPC is still upgrading... when they are done they will have Broacast TV superior to IPTV and also IPTV/VOD via the broadband part of their service).

I know the difference but I'm hoping you can stream from the IPTV box like you can do with both devices.

RangeR

watty wrote: »

with at least 8Mbps plus for this trial...

..it's inherently poorer than Satellite and good cable services

Up until yesterday I would have agreed with pretty much everything you have said about IPTV in the past. However, I had a chance to see it in action. It blew me away, and it will blow you away when you see it.

I don't want to jeapordise my possible trial by giving any details and not sure if there will be an NDA or anything until this trial is over. But from what I could see, nobody is doing this yet and looks far supiorior to at least SD Sky Satallite. Not to mention the other stuff.

the corpo

arg, i want!!!

watty

IrishTLR wrote: »

I don't want to jeapordise my possible trial by giving any details and not sure if there will be an NDA or anything until this trial is over. But from what I could see, nobody is doing this yet and looks far supiorior to at least SD Sky Satallite. Not to mention the other stuff.

If it is PERFECTLY done it can only match RTE & BBC on Satellite. It can't exceed it.

On Satellite I can feed 16 receivers with 3500 channels. No VOD though. I only have 7 receivers connected today now (3 are dual tuner PVRs)

The_Hustler

I'm a Smart Broadband customer and still stuck on the 14 or so channels on basic cable so I would think this would be pretty cool to try out. (Is this free?)

However, I've only got the 4Mbps, do you really need 8Mbps plus?

RangeR

watty wrote: »

If it is PERFECTLY done it can only match RTE & BBC on Satellite. It can't exceed it.

On Satellite I can feed 16 receivers with 3500 channels. No VOD though. I only have 7 receivers connected today now (3 are dual tuner PVRs)

Come on, Watty, RTE and BBC are not the norm on SD SKY. Most of the channels are lower resolution, even Sky One. So don't be pushing the 2 top SD bitrate satellite channels as the norm for the service.

Put it this way, ALL of the channels I've seen are as clear as RTE and BBC on Satellite. I only had 10 or 15 minutes to mess about with it but didn't see any artifacts, distortions, freezes. Channel changes took a few seconds but that is understandable on IPTV. Having said that, I don't know if the average Joe would put up with such a delay when changing channels.

mdub07

Hi, sent also an email. Have Smart BB.

ViDuchie

Mail sent

beolight

mail sent

belmulletman

Does anyone know when we'll hear back on this?

Cheers,
T.

the corpo

any idea how long til this might start? be great before christmas!

Vexorg

Still waiting to get more applications before the info is passed over to Smart Telecom.

V.

Mossy Monk

IrishTLR wrote: »

Come on, Watty, RTE and BBC are not the norm on SD SKY. Most of the channels are lower resolution, even Sky One. So don't be pushing the 2 top SD bitrate satellite channels as the norm for the service.

Put it this way, ALL of the channels I've seen are as clear as RTE and BBC on Satellite. I only had 10 or 15 minutes to mess about with it but didn't see any artifacts, distortions, freezes. Channel changes took a few seconds but that is understandable on IPTV. Having said that, I don't know if the average Joe would put up with such a delay when changing channels.

Where would Smart get the channels from? I would have thought satellite.

The_Hustler

The_Hustler wrote: »

I'm a Smart Broadband customer and still stuck on the 14 or so channels on basic cable so I would think this would be pretty cool to try out. (Is this free?)

However, I've only got the 4Mbps, do you really need 8Mbps plus?

Mail sent, but I'd be grateful if anyone could enlighten me about the above.

RangeR

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Where would Smart get the channels from? I would have thought satellite.

I have no idea and didn't think to ask. If I find out, I'll let you know.

Might be getting an iptv box today*.... WooHoo


*This is because I know a few top guys in there. I have no idea when the actual trial is starting for Boardsies.

lebowsky

The_Hustler wrote: »

I'm a Smart Broadband customer and still stuck on the 14 or so channels on basic cable so I would think this would be pretty cool to try out. (Is this free?)

However, I've only got the 4Mbps, do you really need 8Mbps plus?

I persume you're on the 4 M package. The 8 M refers to the capacity of your line so Smart will have a look at your line and see what its capable of. I believe the requirement will be less than 8M due to the equipment that Smart have purchased.
Don't panic untill they have a look at your line.

RangeR

I think you will be good with a 4Mb connection.

pizzahead77

Mail Sent

BaconZombie

IIRC when Magnet was testing there IPTV they were providing a ~24Mb line with QoS Router splitting off ~8Mb for internet and the rest was IPTV & VoIP.
But they were also running stream with MPEG2 at the time and I think they implemented better compression since then.

RangeR

I do not think it's any surprise that Smart are moving to MPEG4. A 4Mb connection should be more than sufficient for IPTV but I doubt you will get more than one stream while doing any heavy down/up loading.

No idea how QOS is done. At least I *HOPE* that there is QOS on the TV side.

The_Hustler

IrishTLR wrote: »

I think you will be good with a 4Mb connection.

I hope so, because I was with Smart when they gave the free 3Mb upgrade but as far as I remember my speed only increased a little so I presume my line cannot handle more.
My father seemed to get the full 6Mb though, maybe I'll get him on this too, as he's an occasional boardsie.

DJ_Spider

Mail sent. Got 8Mb/s BB so should be ok!

DJ Spider

watty

With 8Mbps you will get 1 to 3Mbps data, even with MPEG4 (unless the quality is low). That's why I said that a 8Mbps line is minimum realistic speed. I've done MPEG4 on 512kbps and it's much better than YouTube and even some old VHS, but pretty poor. Only 320x240. Decent TV needs 720x576. That's nearly 5 times = 2.5Mbps. Double bitrate again for passable quality = 5Mbps. To match decent channels on Satellite you will peak at 6Mbps though average could be 3Mbps. HD needs 18Mbps. Don't expect HD unless you on 25Mbps+ VDSL or fibre.

chalkitdown

Mail sent

jackie.du

Thanks a lot for the chance. Email sent at 0:58, 13/DEC/07 from

Vexorg

OK First Round in.

7 users are unable to get the service at this time , I will mail you to confirm.

6 of you do not come up as Smart customers, I will mail you for confirmation also.

Those of you who have passed, I will mail you to confirm and send on your email address to smart for them to contact you directly with more details.

Thanks

the corpo

exciting!

the corpo

though whats the bet that within seconds of my posting this i get a negative mail