Newcastle v Arsenal

jameshayes

Any ideas lads?


Arsenal are 4/6 to win - and i want to put 20quid on it but something is telling me not to.....

AdrianII

Have a funny feeling about this game, newcastle under pressure, need a win badly

i reckon a newcastle win or a draw

smog

you will get 4 to 1 for a newcastle (home) win

mixervilla

4/6 and they're missing a number of players and away from home - they prob will win but there's no value in that bet.
Id go with abedayor for 1st goal with PP at 9/2 or Rosiky @ 10/1
If Abedayor scores last the bets are refunded at PP
At least you'll make some decent money with these if they come in and not just 13euro!

cson

Overs and Unders are the way to go here methinks. It's traditionally a low scoring game so Under 2.5 goals @ 10/11 seems value to me.

Dodge

cson wrote: »

Overs and Unders are the way to go here methinks. It's traditionally a low scoring game so Under 2.5 goals @ 10/11 seems value to me.

Newcastle's defence is truely awful though

jameshayes

i put rosikki(as they call him on SP) down for first goal and ars to win 3-0.... 1euro bet 56euro return. Newcastle at home, lots of presure, arsenal missing a few players, newcastle on poor form, arsenal had a rocky weekend... too many things playing havoc with this result...

hottstuff

jameshayes wrote: »

i put rosikki(as they call him on SP) down for first goal and ars to win 3-0.... 1euro bet 56euro return. Newcastle at home, lots of presure, arsenal missing a few players, newcastle on poor form, arsenal had a rocky weekend... too many things playing havoc with this result...

Good bet.
i know Newcastle desperate for a win , but you know Arsenal can cope even without their big passers.

cson

Dodge wrote: »

Newcastle's defence is truely awful though

Indeed, but Arsenal are shorn of their main creative forces in Hleb, Fabregas and Van Persie. Flattuso is out also.

threebeards

I think this is hard a game to call as there has been for a while. Arsenal will miss Fabregas and Hleb but on the other hand Newcastle are p1ss poor. I don't know why but I just think Newcastle might scrape a point. From a punting point of view, I'm not too confident though and think it's better watched. Martins to score at any time is a bit of value @ 3-1 or Rosicky to score at any time is 7-2 (both on Betfair)

cson

Thats why I think the overs/unders market is your best place to look for a bet. Its gonna be a hard match to call, and I'm gonna stick with my 10/11 for under 2.5 goals.

Possibly have a punt on Rosicky as an anytime scorer. Gallas would tempt me slightly in this regard too.

jameshayes

cson wrote: »

Thats why I think the overs/unders market is your best place to look for a bet. Its gonna be a hard match to call, and I'm gonna stick with my 10/11 for under 2.5 goals.

But i think the game will go one of two ways - arsenal will HAMMER newcastel 3/4 : 0

or it will be a really nasty, boring game where it's a 0:0 / 1:1 draw...


I know you can say that about any game - but this one in particular is tricky

dotsflan

i think possibly the bet to go with here is arsenal HT and FT at around 6/4
If the newcastle defence plays like they have all year then arsenel will rip them to shreds plus i got the impression from the newspapers that there is a divide between players and management at the moment

Dodge

You do realise you don't have to bet on the game lads?

The Hacker

Dodge wrote: »

You do realise you don't have to bet on the game lads?

Not bet???? What is this madness you speak of. I'd go Arsenal 4-0. Denilson, rosicky, adebayor, etc will get the job done.

jameshayes

Dodge wrote: »

You do realise you don't have to bet on the game lads?

Thats just pure crazyness

Ohyeah

so hard to call alright.

could be "one of those nights" a packed St James, under lights, their team backs against the wall, a big team coming to town- and somehow just somehow they get a result.

or Arsenal could just destroy them and the toon army will invade the pitch and rip Joey Barton to bits.

have to say I think the former could just be it...although cause I am not sure 5-2 Newcastle Win (Draw no Bet) in PP seems like worth a go?

actually kinda looking forward to the drama of it tonight.

hottstuff

The Hacker wrote: »

Not bet???? What is this madness you speak of. I'd go Arsenal 4-0. Denilson, rosicky, adebayor, etc will get the job done.

Agreed , but if Eduardo is fit , don't forget about him.

(CH3)2CHOH

Never bet for or against Newcastle.

Logic cannot be applied and money will be lost

jameshayes

(CH3)2CHOH wrote: »

Logic cannot be applied

if you look up 'big sam' in the dictionary this is what pops up...

mike65

Worst betting game of the season so far.

Mike.

ErinGoBrath

I got Diarra to score at anytime on betfair last night @13's. Thought it was good value considering he'll probably be playing beside Gilblets and may have a more forward role. He looks eager to get forward and do some damage so tonight could be the opportunity.

As for the outcome of the game there has been some valid points raised however I think we all may over overestimating Newcastles unpredicability. Granted Arsenal are short some of the more creative players however we still have the likes of Rosicky (also doing him to score anytime), Denilson, Ade and Eduardo.

IrishMike

Avoiding like the plague.
Too much uncertainty and Arsenal have too many missing.
A decent bet would be a high card count.
Can see the likes of smith, martins, Diarra etc all getting booked.
Mike dean is the ref and his stats are
Matches Red Yellow Average
10 4 50 5.40
A red card also might not be beyond the realms of possibility @ 5-2.

A safer bet is probably Basel in the UEFA cup.
Similar odds to the Arsenal game and should win comfortably
--- in saying that i said the same about WBA last night so ignore my ramblings!!

jameshayes

i have my bets on U-C already

Everton to win Everton v Zenit St Petersburg (1.728) 
Draw on Nurnberg v Az Alkmaar (3.20) 
Atletico Madrid to win FC Copenhagen v Atletico Madrid (2.30) 
Panathinaikos to win Panathinaikos v Loko Moscow (1.80) 
AEK Athens to win Mlada Boleslav v AEK Athens (2.50) 
Villarreal to win Villarreal v Elfsborg (1.167) 
Basel to win Basel v Brann Bergen (1.50) 

1euro bet at 100/1 (coral)

leaba

I've the minority view that people are giving Newcastle and their circumstances too much credit. I think the 1.82 available on betfair for the arsenal win is good value.

I think Arsenal have more than enough to score a couple and with their defense at full strength, Newcastle will be doing well to score one.

Pj!

I believe Arsenal at 1.81(chronicle) offers value and am on.

Can't imagine it being a straightforward game though.

IrishMike

Avoiding the Arsenal Match aswell
Everton @ 8 - 11
Atletico Madrid @ 11 - 10
Panathinaikos @ 4 - 5
Villarreal @ 1 - 6
FC Basel @ 8 - 15

Stake €20.00 Potential Returns: €233.60

mike65

I see potential for a big low % return half-time bet at St James.

Mike.

county

Osasuna v Seville Seville @ 11 - 8
Everton v Zenit St Petersburg Everton @ 8 - 11
Nurnberg v AZ Alkmaar Nurnberg @ 5 - 4
FC Copenhagen v Atletico Madrid Draw @ 11 - 5

Stake:5.00
Potential Returns:147.68

mike65

01 Given 21 Beye 27 Taylor 04 Rozehnal 14 N'Zogbia 16 Milner 07 Barton 22 Butt
20 Geremi 09 Martins 17 Smith

24 Almunia 03 Sagna 05 Toure 10 Gallas 22 Clichy 27 Eboue 08 Diarra 19 Silva
07 Rosicky 25 Adebayor 09 Eduardo

Ah feck it I've stuck a fiver on Arsenal at -1 handicap. (x3 payout)

Mike.

IrishMike

Lol won 129.55 on the polish league earlier.
Threw the whole lot on Arsenal with a draw being a void bet @ 1-4
Dream start 1-0 after 3 mins

mike65

Just as well you were'nt late - win for Arsenal dropped to 1.20 from 1.90 on PP.

Polish league? There's dedication!

Mike.

IrishMike

Stake €50.00
Deportivo Azogues v Deportivo Quito
Deportivo Azogues
8 - 11 Win
Wisla Krakow v GKS Belchatow
Wisla Krakow
1 - 2 Win
Payout €129.55

Good old paddy power.
Who would have guessed i would be betting on the ecuador and polish leagues to try
and scrape some cash together!

Only reason i backed arsenal was to make watching the game more interesting

Villareal are 1-0 up in the UEFA cup

jameshayes

30 mins in and they are 1:0 up and supposedly looking comfortable 'supposedly'(reading online -no access to TV at the mo). balls.

The Hacker

4 minutes in they were 1-0 up. Adebayor - legend.

IrishMike

1-1 and starting to become a very open game.
Could go anyway now
25 mins left

mike65

I'm thinking of a "last min" 200 euro bet on whatever the score is ie 1-1 with 60 secs left then bet draw. I'll only get a few euro back but it'll cover my fiver!

Mike.

jameshayes

lucky i didn't put that 20 on!

jameshayes

jameshayes wrote: »

i have my bets on U-C already

Everton to win Everton v Zenit St Petersburg (1.728) 
Draw on Nurnberg v Az Alkmaar (3.20) 
Atletico Madrid to win FC Copenhagen v Atletico Madrid (2.30) 
Panathinaikos to win Panathinaikos v Loko Moscow (1.80) 
AEK Athens to win Mlada Boleslav v AEK Athens (2.50) 
Villarreal to win Villarreal v Elfsborg (1.167) 
Basel to win Basel v Brann Bergen (1.50) 

1euro bet at 100/1 (coral)

Yes, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

IrishMike

IrishMike wrote: »

Avoiding the Arsenal Match aswell
Everton @ 8 - 11
Atletico Madrid @ 11 - 10
Panathinaikos @ 4 - 5
Villarreal @ 1 - 6
FC Basel @ 8 - 15

Stake €20.00 Potential Returns: €233.60

Yes yes yes yes and yes
Makes up for the disaster that was last nite.
Made a tidy €363 euro profit today.
Sure beats working

jameshayes

IrishMike wrote: »

Yes yes yes yes and yes
Makes up for the disaster that was last nite.
Made a tidy €363 euro profit today.
Sure beats working

were you nervous watching the everton game?

IrishMike

60 minutes against 10 men
Disaster of a game
And they missed a penalty!
Never thought i would be cheering Tim Cahill

dotsflan

am i mistaken but did all the favourites win in the uefa cup tonight. i had four of them in an accum but i could have put in a lot more but didnt want to get greedy. If all the favs won the bookies must have been cleaned this evening. One for the punters at last!!!!!!!

cson

Well **** Seville! **** them.

Keano

Only a small single bet on Everton for me. Trying to turn a fiver into treble figures! Well done IrishMike we was routing for ya

mike65

IrishMike for mod!

Mike.

Keano

I had to go and check who were the mods! mike65 you already have one forum under your belt another would do you no harm!!

mike65

heh! me and ecksor have some history, it won't happen (not that I want it anyways).

Mike.

IrishMike

mike65 wrote: »

heh! me and ecksor have some history, it won't happen (not that I want it anyways).

Mike.

Should we move this to the personal issues forum????

cson

In all fairness though the Gaff could do with an active mod. Isn't it ecksor and WWM who are the mods? (And admins?)

To be honest theres not much muppetry, the odd bit here and there, but an active mod wouldn't do any harm imo.

jameshayes

cson wrote: »

In all fairness though the Gaff could do with an active mod. Isn't it ecksor and WWM who are the mods? (And admins?)

To be honest theres not much muppetry, the odd bit here and there, but an active mod wouldn't do any harm imo.

i think it would increase the amount of posts/threads as well...