SalthillAirshow is no more

Steyr

Hi guys it is with a heavy sad heart that i have to announce that the Salthill Airshow is no more due to lack of funds from Galway City Council and others......... A terrible sad day im disgusted shame on all the people who put down the trojan work that has gone into this to make it absolutely FREE for everybody and you will never EVER see Salthill as busy as it was on any Airshow day, Airshows happen all over the world and the Organisers pulled in everything for us like the RAF Red Arrows and the USAF Thunderbirds for FREE im disgusted when the likes of the GAAW do what they do you make me SICK TO MY STOMACH. GAAW the effect you have had on the Airshow and now the local economy is sickening your entitled to your views but you went too far Airshows happen everywhere Salthill will now return to a Ghost Town, You make me sick.





To Brian McGrath,Carolyn Shiels and Tony Gibson i bow my hat to you, thanks for the memories.

:mad::mad::mad:

Robbo

I fail to see the downside to this.

It was a reasonably novel distraction for one or two years but then it became a massive pain in the tits. The influx of slack jawed hicks, the parking problems, not being allowed to have a hangover in peace for Roger cocking Ramjet buzzing your house, the planespotters and the traffic.

I will miss none of this.

big b

Nothing on the official website, or on RTE news pages.

Link to announcement, please.

Steyr

big b wrote: »

Nothing on the official website, or on RTE news pages.

Link to announcement, please.

www.galwaybayfm.ie

PopeBuckfastXVI

b*llocks.

one of the main reasons for getting a 200mm lens with my d80 is gone.

ffs.

Steyr

Robbo wrote: »

I fail to see the downside to this.

It was a reasonably novel distraction for one or two years but then it became a massive pain in the tits. The influx of slack jawed hicks, the parking problems, not being allowed to have a hangover in peace for Roger cocking Ramjet buzzing your house, the planespotters and the traffic.

I will miss none of this.

Downside-Money to the Local Economy

Pain in the tits you say?? Hmmmm maybe you should not go then nobody forced you.

Slack jawed hicks?? Oh you mean Tourists giving money to the Local Economy

Parking problems?? Where? There was adequate parking in schools open for the event ive seen worse at GAA matches in Salthill..

Having a hangover? Drink less.

Planespotters? Whats wrong with them and their hobby? What do you spot?

You wont be missed, dont let the door hit you on the way out..:rolleyes:

cornbb

Robbo wrote: »

not being allowed to have a hangover in peace for Roger cocking Ramjet buzzing your house

LOL!

@Steyr: comiserations man, I know you and others put a lot of work into this in the past.

stevecrow74

Robbo wrote: »

I fail to see the downside to this.

one word... economy

people travel the length and width of the country, and come from across the water to see the airshow..

so whats so bad about a couple of hundred thousand people coming to galway to spend their money at a free event..

the effects will be noticed next year if the event doesnt go ahead..

big b

Steyr,

I don't doubt you personally, but it seems very strange that rte & eircom news pages have nothing about this.

No speakers here so can't play the clip on your link.

How good is this info, in your opinion?

toiletduck

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1204/airshow.html

Utopia Parkway

I guess it was a nice little distraction for a day in the Summer but I can't say that I'll miss it particularly.

Over&Over

Bad news for the organisers.................

but great news for Galway's terrified cats and dogs (now they only have to ban Halloween and fireworks), the ever-heating environment and anyone who finds the glorification of war planes inappropriate and in bad taste.

Fey!

Sorry to see this event disappear; I always really enjoyed it (despite any anti-war feelings I may have, and not really being that into planes); I always appreciated it for what it was - ENTERTAINMENT.

Many thanks to all of the organisers for keeping it going for so long despite all the nay sayers.

Steyr

Over&Over wrote: »

Bad news for the organisers.................

but great news for Galway's terrified cats and dogs (now they only have to ban Halloween and fireworks), the ever-heating environment and anyone who finds the glorification of war planes inappropriate and in bad taste.

ROFL You should be a Comedian. What a killjoy you are oh and at this point i must add im an animal lover too i have 2 Hamsters and not that you would know but before every Airshow we went to as many Animal centers in the area to tell them about the noise so they could be well prepared for it now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Steyr

Fey! wrote: »

Many thanks to all of the organisers for keeping it going for so long despite all the nay sayers.

Thank you Dave.:)

Steyr

stevecrow74 wrote: »

one word... economy

people travel the length and width of the country, and come from across the water to see the airshow..

so whats so bad about a couple of hundred thousand people coming to galway to spend their money at a free event..

the effects will be noticed next year if the event doesnt go ahead..

Well said Steve i met up with no less than 36 Members of Aviation Boards around Europe who came just to see the Thunderbirds as they had never been to Ireland before and now had a reason to go.

Robbo

stevecrow74 wrote: »

one word... economy

people travel the length and width of the country, and come from across the water to see the airshow..

so whats so bad about a couple of hundred thousand people coming to galway to spend their money at a free event..

the effects will be noticed next year if the event doesnt go ahead..

Was it ever really "a couple of hundred of thousand"? I'm no good at judging the size of crowds Ted, but I'd say there was maybe 60-80,000 there at most any of the times I rocked up.

Were there ever independent audits done on crowd size and impact to local economy? I'm quite curious of this because I've seen figures trotted out for events that can only have been arrived at by multiplying the number of people you'd like to attend by the notion of them all spending several hundred euro.

It was perhaps wrong of me to rag on planespotters, I do acknowledge that some of them aren't dullards with quasi-militaristic fantasies and a fastidious obsession with minutiae. Some, mind.

Over&Over

Steyr wrote: »

ROFL You should be a Comedian.

You're sharp. For that is indeed my (part-time) trade. This thread has given me many ideas that I might develop in the coming weeks. For which I am grateful, thank you.

Robbo

Robbo wrote: »

I fail to see the downside to this.

It was a reasonably novel distraction for one or two years but then it became a massive pain in the tits. The influx of slack jawed hicks, the parking problems, not being allowed to have a hangover in peace for Roger cocking Ramjet buzzing your house, the planespotters and the traffic.

I will miss none of this.

Using your logic, they should ban the Galway Races if anything.

That causes far more traffic, far less parking, and far more problems than the Airshow ever did.

Did you not notice the elevated police presence on Shop Street during this? It just goes to show how much of a problem and how much trouble there is compared to the Air Show.

But its all about money. And this is what Galway will be losing out on now, because of people like you who just can't enjoy it for what it is; a fun day out.

biko

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on the Airshow. Some are for and some against. Personally I liked to watch the synchronized flying and that it kinda put Galway on the international map.
Watching the sync flying is like watching an army band at a tattoo, you enjoy the show but in the back of your head is the knowing that this is still a representation of something bigger and meaner somewhere else. It was nice while it lasted though.

padi89

Deleted User wrote: »

Using your logic, they should ban the Galway Races if anything.
Did you not notice the elevated police presence on Shop Street during this? It just goes to show how much of a problem and how much trouble there is compared to the Air Show.

Give over . ANYTIME there is a large organised event in the city there is an increased Garda presence be it Macnas Parade,Airshow,GAA match,Oyster Festival,Races etc.Large crowds no matter what the circumstances in general need to be policed.Sure wasn't it only recently people were posting here wondering why Gardai were outside funeral homes.......;)

padi89

padi89 wrote: »

Give over . ANYTIME there is a large organised event in the city there is an increased Garda presence be it Macnas Parade,Airshow,GAA match,Oyster Festival,Races etc.Large crowds no matter what the circumstances in general need to be policed.Sure wasn't it only recently people were posting here wondering why Gardai were outside funeral homes.......;)

So you're trying to tell me before that it wasn't the first time they had a police barricade at every entrance to Shop Street?

Also, you can cut out the sarcastic comments, if you re-read my post, you will have noticed me saying that I was not aware of a funeral home near that vicinity.

Zzippy

OP, while I sympathise with your loss , you also have to understand that not everyone's going to agree with you, so maybe you shouldn't attack/insult people who happen to have an alternative viewpoint. Also, informing animal shelters of the show isn't exactly going to help them much - the animals there, and elsewhere in Salthill, are still going to hear the noise.
I'd also question the value to the local economy - from what I saw it was 95% locals or day trippers, half of them brought their own lunches, or would have eaten in the city anyway. Its not like there wasn't a hotel bed to be had for 30 miles now :rolleyes:

And this was by far the best contribution to this thread:

Robbo wrote:

not being allowed to have a hangover in peace for Roger cocking Ramjet buzzing your house

:D

ian_m

Thats bad news. I used to get the train down to watch it. Great day out.

AircraftTechie

Galwayguy99 wrote: »

OP, while I sympathise with your loss , you also have to understand that not everyone's going to agree with you, so maybe you shouldn't attack/insult people who happen to have an alternative viewpoint. Also, informing animal shelters of the show isn't exactly going to help them much - the animals there, and elsewhere in Salthill, are still going to hear the noise.
I'd also question the value to the local economy - from what I saw it was 95% locals or day trippers, half of them brought their own lunches, or would have eaten in the city anyway. Its not like there wasn't a hotel bed to be had for 30 miles now :rolleyes:

And this was by far the best contribution to this thread:
:D

I dont think he was attacking people but rather venting his anger. OP that is terrible news im sad at this now as i have to go to the UK to see Airshows:( Sure not everybody agrees with the OP but the Majority did.

padraig71

It says a lot about people's warped ideas of entertainment that they can't enjoy an airshow that doesn't feature military aircraft. In which case, good riddance to it.

There are higher values than money, though many people seem to lose sight of that fact. Congratulations to the anti-war protesters who helped put an end to this barbaric display, and to the city council for doing the right thing.

padraig71

padraig71 wrote: »

It says a lot about people's warped ideas of entertainment that they can't enjoy an airshow that doesn't feature military aircraft. In which case, good riddance to it.

There are higher values than money, though many people seem to lose sight of that fact. Congratulations to the anti-war protesters who helped put an end to this barbaric display, and to the city council for doing the right thing.

Yet its money that makes Galway a better place.

AircraftTechie

padraig71 wrote: »

It says a lot about people's warped ideas of entertainment that they can't enjoy an airshow that doesn't feature military aircraft. In which case, good riddance to it.

There are higher values than money, though many people seem to lose sight of that fact. Congratulations to the anti-war protesters who helped put an end to this barbaric display, and to the city council for doing the right thing.

Hey guess who brought you the Internet??? Thats right the US Military. Fact of the matter is Military Aircraft will always be the crowd pleasers, not small lil cessna 172Sp's or Mooney Bravo's.

leninbenjamin

AircraftTechie wrote: »

Hey guess who brought you the Internet??? Thats right the US Military. Fact of the matter is Military Aircraft will always be the crowd pleasers, not small lil cessna 172Sp's or Mooney Bravo's.

and fitting all those processors in such small spaces on aircraft has made some huge advancements in computer technology too.

Rowley Birkin QC

I'd be willing to wager my left nut that this is down to those bloody eco mentalists and their anti-war wooly cardigan brigade cousins.

lostexpectation

well when the organiser of the event says otherwise I believe your leftnut is gone bigkev

biko

Steyr wrote: »

im disgusted when the likes of the GAAW do what they do you make me SICK TO MY STOMACH. GAAW the effect you have had on the Airshow and now the local economy is sickening your entitled to your views but you went too far Airshows happen everywhere Salthill will now return to a Ghost Town, You make me sick.

Please elaborate on how the Galway Alliance Against War managed to stop the show, I thought it was just that finances dried up?

Do you mean that GAAW managed to persuade the funders to stop?

lostexpectation

steyr waht did galway chamber of commerce ( or whatever) say in response to your statements about reaping the benefit without supporting the event.

biko

AircraftTechie wrote: »

Hey guess who brought you the Internet??? Thats right the US Military. Fact of the matter is Military Aircraft will always be the crowd pleasers, not small lil cessna 172Sp's or Mooney Bravo's.

Don't mean to be picky but I think you'll find that the military created ARPA, along with US universities. The net (WWW/what you are using now) was created by a guy at CERN, Europe.

bizmark

bigkev49 wrote: »

I'd be willing to wager my left nut that this is down to those bloody eco mentalists and their anti-war wooly cardigan brigade cousins.

No doubt about it really those bastards wont be happy till we are liveing in huts and defended by sticks not to sharp mind could be dangours better think of the children .

ian_m

Did they have insurance? Maybe that went up after a door fell off a helicopter and landed on someone...

galwayrush

Very Sad.:mad:
The serial objectors will be happy:mad:

CrowdedHouse

AircraftTechie wrote: »

Hey guess who brought you the Internet??? Thats right the US Military. Fact of the matter is Military Aircraft will always be the crowd pleasers, not small lil cessna 172Sp's or Mooney Bravo's.

Dunno about that,the best display by far last year was by these guys.



It was a good show and must have taken a hell of a lot of work to organise but I feel uncomfortable about the way Military aircraft are shown as entertainment rather than the weapons of destruction that they are.

Don't forget too that last year it was very lucky no one was seriously injured because some gob****e Military pilot(s) couldn't be arsed to check his machine properly before take off.

Steyr

biko wrote: »

Please elaborate on how the Galway Alliance Against War managed to stop the show, I thought it was just that finances dried up?

Do you mean that GAAW managed to persuade the funders to stop?

They didnt help by calling it a "Warshow" thats all im trying to say or get others to call for it to be banned, They constantly called for it to be banned. Of course they didnt persuade the funders to stop the funds just arent there. No other Aishow had so much Anti everything about it thrown at it they were put down no matter where they turned, some of the biggest Airshows in Europe take place in the UK with B52's and B2's even and they never had this problem of Anti everything.

galwayrush

How much money is needed to organise the event?
I'm sure there are lots of ways we could raise funds, i'm willing to help.

Steyr

ian_m wrote: »

Did they have insurance?

Of course.

Krieg

galwayrush wrote: »

How much money is needed to organise the event?
I'm sure there are lots of ways we could raise funds, i'm willing to help.

80k I think, Surprised sponsors wont come in and pay, its not that expensive if you think about it.

leninbenjamin

Asbad wrote: »

80k I think, Surprised sponsors wont come in and pay, its not that expensive if you think about it.

do the Chamber of commerce not put anything toward it? it seems daft... if everyone who visited for the show spent €1 in town that's the event seemingly paid for.

galwayrush

Asbad wrote: »

80k I think, Surprised sponsors wont come in and pay, its not that expensive if you think about it.

That's not impossible. Incredible value in terms of the money it generates for the City. Thinking about it, most of the people against the Air Show, Councillors included seem to be against almost every plan for the city, :rolleyes:

Steyr

gatecrash wrote: »

But people like the GAAW are partly responsible, and I feel that they will have a lot to answer for when next years timeframe comes around and there is no more than the usual summer business, with nothing like the crowds that have been there for the past number of years.

.

Steyr

galwayrush wrote: »

Incredible value in terms of the money it generates for the City.

What have you in Salthill now???Oh ya the 5's, a huge crowd puller...:rolleyes:

galwayrush

Steyr wrote: »

What have you in Salthill now???Oh ya the 5's, a huge crowd puller...:rolleyes:

Don't forget the GAAW's annual release of 99 balloons:rolleyes:another biggie.:rolleyes:

Steyr

galwayrush wrote: »

Don't forget the GAAW's annual release of 99 balloons:rolleyes:another biggie.:rolleyes:

You mean the danger to Aircraft.

padi89

Deleted User wrote: »

So you're trying to tell me before that it wasn't the first time they had a police barricade at every entrance to Shop Street?

Also, you can cut out the sarcastic comments, if you re-read my post, you will have noticed me saying that I was not aware of a funeral home near that vicinity.

Firstly,NO im not trying to tell you anything so don't misquote me.The barricades for the races this year were to stop people from bringing in their own booze into designated areas causing the huge amount of rubbish from other years.They were not there to stop people boozing or entering the area in any way,nor were they policed by Gardai.
It wasn't meant as being sarcastic more light hearted, i honestly didn't realsie it was you that had made the original post.Didn't mean to wind you up.

galwayrush

Steyr wrote: »

You mean the danger to Aircraft.

Yep, :mad:

vulcan57

Sad, sad day for Salthill and Galway in general. The hardest thing to swallow is that the GAAW are now jumping for joy and claiming "victory". If I had my way I'd take them all out, line them up against a wall (wouldn't have to be a big one, there aren't that many of them) and show them first hand what weapons of war can do! It makes my blood boil to think that there is a totally voluntary committee that dedicate 9 or 10 months a year to providing a free air show all for what? Heart ache and stress when they are promised money that does'nt materialise and businesses that fill their pockets with money on the back of the air show and run straight to the bank before donating a thing to help it continue. Well next year they will feel it. I echo Styre's sentiment that Brian, Carolyn and Tony all deserve a medal for the sterling work they have put in.