1911 Census released

jameshayes

You can now see the 1911 census online... it's pretty cool... you can search by first name, surname or both...

Sounds boring but is interesting!

Print one out and give it to your granny in a frame! cheapest crimbo pressie ever!

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

bill_ashmount

Class

edit to say, load of crap, seems to be Dublin only..........booooooooooooooo

biko

Only available for Dublin County

LadyJ

Lol, I'd say not many people from 1911 are still around today.

seamus

1911....was my granny even alive?

Rob_l

Im not on it

cornbb

Move to Dublin forum

daveirl

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luckat

Yes, Dublin is the first one. Found someone I know of in Haroldsgrange (where??) in Rathfarnham - he lists his religion sternly as 'Rationalist'. Yay!

Wreck

Thats actually pretty cool

Cathmandooo

wow that's amazing, havent found anyone I know yet but picked a random name of a dude living round where I live and he lived with his 3 female servants!!! How mad! Thanks for the link!

Pal

http://86.47.147.157/reels/nai000051594/

house of ill repute

Heisenberg.

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DonJose

I think I found some relations, have to confirm dates of birth, he's down as "Head of family" wifes occupation "domestic duties"

LadyJ

I'd prefer to see one from around the 1920s or 1930s.

Pal

Pal wrote: »

http://86.47.147.157/reels/nai000051594/

house of ill repute

How do you know that exactly?

Ha, the last column:

If Deaf and Dumb;
Dumb only;
Blind;
Imbecile or Idiot;
Lunatic.

Ahh..it was a simpler time! I'm going to try and find a lunatic.

watna

That's pretty cool. I think I may have found my great grandfather. I'm not sure though, I'll have to confirm his name with my mum. My dad is Welsh and he's done a lot of research into that side of the family because more info is up online. He's gone back a good bit and some of the stuff is really interesting. One of my relatives was arrested for bigamy, I thought that was pretty cool!

I'd really like to see the 1931 census and work back from that though. Surely it would make more sense to puclish more recent ones first?

jameshayes

everything is backwards in this country, so no point in changing it now?

seamus

watna wrote: »

I'd really like to see the 1931 census and work back from that though. Surely it would make more sense to puclish more recent ones first?

The FOI Act put a limit on how long census data should remain private, so they're limited in what they can put up. I'm not sure what the actual limitation is though, may be 75 years or so.

watna

seamus wrote: »

The FOI Act put a limit on how long census data should remain private, so they're limited in what they can put up. I'm not sure what the actual limitation is though, may be 75 years or so.

bah, humbug!

GhostInTheRuins

watna wrote: »

I'd really like to see the 1931 census and work back from that though. Surely it would make more sense to puclish more recent ones first?

I think there's some law that they have to wait a certain amount of years untill the census becomes public. As far as I know when the 1911 was released, it was released early because the previous one was mostly destroyed. I might be wrong about that though)

Edit: Seamus got there before me

boneless

Great link, thanks! Found both my maternal Grandparents on it... didn't actually know that my Great Grandfather had a servant!!! :eek: I come from a line of exploiters!!:p

Rob_l

Can we merge this thread with the Ideal immigration policy thread and then if you cant find a direct descendant on that pack your bags and leave Dublin today

NextSteps

I found my great-great grandparents!

coolhandc

thats really cool,i just found my great grandfather and grandmother!

watna

I had a look around the national archive site and you can see the database of Irish people transportated to Australia. It's quite interesting. I just typed in a common name and loads of people came up. Most were sent for stealing sheep. One guy got life transportation for "administering unlawful oaths". i wonder what that was!

Tis all ver interesting!

ejmaztec

I see that Eamon De Valera was Edward De Valera at that time. He also had a 25 year-old female servant who couldn't read or write. I wonder whether he was bothered about her illiteracy, or even tried to help her get to grips with reading and writing, he being concerned with improving the quality of life of the Irish people. Perhaps I'm just being cynical.

ScumLord

Shouldn't all the Irish rebels be on it somewhere too?

Pompey Magnus

ScumLord wrote: »

Shouldn't all the Irish rebels be on it somewhere too?

I only found Thomas MacDonagh's form. There are probably more somewhere.

jameshayes

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Fitzwilliam/Earlsfort_Place/73150/

I thiiiink thats Douglas Hyde...

jameshayes

yeah, thats Douggie alright!

admiralofthefleet

i was on that site for hours last night, the pictures and stories about life then are cool, and i found my great granfather

Morlar

That is class ! A bit wierd seeing your great grandfathers handwriting on the internet though.

luckat

LadyJ wrote: »

I'd prefer to see one from around the 1920s or 1930s.

There wasn't another one until the 1920s and the Free State; I assume that's next on the list - or rather, second-next, as the other counties in the 1911 census will be brought online next.

1911 would have been 32-county, whereas the post-partition censuses would be 26-county.

John Mason

i found my great grandparents and great or grand not sure which aunt/uncles

daveirl

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Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

free st8 4 lyf!

Blisterman

Is THE James joyce there?
There are about 10 James Joyces on there. I don't know which, if any are the writer.

interlocked

The first census in Ireland was taken in 1821 and every 10 years afterwards. So, the first three were incredibly important documnts as they recorded the population pre famine. The 1851 census was as important because it would have provide a detailed survey of post famine changes on an area and family basis. If you compare the 1838 OS maps to the 1850's Griffiths Valuation, you'll see instantly how many dwellings are literally wiped away in the Famine and subsequent emigration. To make matters worse the State didn't start recording Births Deaths and Marriages until 1864.

The census returns from 1821-1851 were stored in the Public Records Archive in the Four Courts.

The 1861-1891 returns were pulped in subsequent years,

When the Four Courts were shelled at the start of the Civil War. a shell hit the records depository in the middle of a courtyard and blew it up, I think the rebels may have stored ammo in it. Ernie O'Malley who was in the Four Courts when it happened, later wrote in his book, The Singing Flame that there was a deluge of paper and parchment raining down on the area in the aftermath, he grabbed one piece of paper as it was floating down, and it was a list of infomers in the 1798 uprising. The irony was savage.

At any rate that explosion was probably the single most devastating loss of historical data in the country's history. Material dating back to the medieval period was lost.

Some census returns remains for some counties like Laois and Offaly and some of the northern counties, but for the majority, the earliest surviving is the 1901 Census. Census returns are held from release under the 100 Year rule, but because of the peculiar circumstances, some years ago, the Government released the 1901 and 1911 returns much earlier, an intriguing anomaly because if I recall, the same years were still under lock and key in the North.

purple'n'gold

Blisterman wrote: »

Is THE James joyce there?
There are about 10 James Joyces on there. I don't know which, if any are the writer.

Joyce left Dublin in 1904, he visited Ireland very little after that and made his last visit in 1912. he died in Zurich in 1941.

seamus

Blisterman wrote: »

Is THE James joyce there?
There are about 10 James Joyces on there. I don't know which, if any are the writer.

The banner image on the site shows James Joyce's form

Except, it would appear that one's from the 1901 census. James Joyce lived in Treiste in 1911, so he wouldn't be on the census.

God bless wikipedia.

Malteaser!

Such a class site, found my great-grandfather...turns out they had 3 servants living in the house.

Can't find anybody from my dads side, coz my grandad was adopted from England so his family won't be there and my Nana is from the country.

Apparently they're releasing the cencus from the rest of the country over the next yea.

Dee5

Here is the 1901 from James Joyce

http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy/images/1901JoyceFamily.jpg

Lizzykins

I found my great grandfather on my father's side and as I didn't know a huge amount about him I was delighted to fill in a few blanks in the family history. Back in about 1985 I went to the Public Record Office and found my mother's family in the 1901 census so the records were available that far back. At the time my grandfather was still alive and he was amazed to hear details of his own grandfather's life. What amazes me is the whole range of jobs that people did that just don't exist now-carter,loco fireman etc. One of my grandfather's brothers was a loco fireman.

Dave!

Cool Found my mother's grandfather and his wife, and their son (my grandfather's brother).

My great great grandfather was a satirical lyricist, so I have copies of some of his work.
Everyone on that side of the family has truly awful handwriting and his is just the same.

watna

This site is cool. I went to a boarding school so I decided to look up and see who was in the school then, and I found the census records for it, with all the boarders and teachers there. I foud out the boys lived right near the school but the girls lived a 10 minute walk away in a completely different street. Very interesting!

gurramok

Still searching for my grandad. Problem is my surname was so common in the south inner city back then that i have to trawl through all the matching returns to find the right person, especially made harder when i didn't know his age!
That said, i know others who found theirs easily, lucky buggers!

luckat

watna wrote: »

One guy got life transportation for "administering unlawful oaths". i wonder what that was!

Signing people up as members of a secret society to resist bullying landlords.

crosstownk

Cool site. I managed to find all my grandparents - all under 10 at the time.

jameshayes

Well done to everyone who found someone they know, if you feel like donating to my personal charity for the egocentrics, you can send me money by paypal.