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TV3 Katy French Coverage

  • 03-12-2007 5:42pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭


    I was actually disgusted watching TV3 news tonight
    They led off with the Katy French story...
    First there was a report...followed by a live link to the hospital, then another live link to your woman from Expose, gushing about celebrity friends and wishing her well with her mystery "illness"

    then they do the omagh story...

    Oh My God


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    Bit sad but not surprised.

    I'm wondering how RTÉ cover it (and where they place it in the run of things). From what I hear there's about to be movement on the story but even still I'd be very disappointed to see it anywhere near the top of the pile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,726 ✭✭✭✭DMC


    giftgrub wrote: »
    They led off with the Katy French story...

    then they do the omagh story...

    Oh My God

    +1.

    That is the worst I've ever seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,726 ✭✭✭✭DMC


    flogen wrote: »
    I'm wondering how RTÉ cover it (and where they place it in the run of things). From what I hear there's about to be movement on the story but even still I'd be very disappointed to see it anywhere near the top of the pile.

    It will be interesting. Note that its not mentioned on the RTÉ News site, and its only the 4th story on their Entertainment section.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I was going to ask who's Katy French.

    Mike.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    I am disgusted by this...of all the things going on in the world this is most definitely not news wordy at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,726 ✭✭✭✭DMC


    Six one had it as the last item before the 1st commercial break, 20 mins in.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    DMC wrote: »
    It will be interesting. Note that its not mentioned on the RTÉ News site, and its only the 4th story on their Entertainment section.

    They gave it a standard enough mention after the break - pretty normal fare I guess. It wasn't mentioned in the opening headlines either, which just shows you the vast difference between TV3 and RTÉ news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,726 ✭✭✭✭DMC


    flogen wrote: »
    They gave it a standard enough mention after the break - pretty normal fare I guess. It wasn't mentioned in the opening headlines either, which just shows you the vast difference between TV3 and RTÉ news.

    Aye, just about right in the scheme of things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    Just shows the priorities of the different channels. TV3 is generally tabloidy rubbish anyway. I couldnt give a sh!te if Katy French fell off a cliff tbh. Just another media whore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    Nightwish wrote: »
    Just shows the priorities of the different channels. TV3 is generally tabloidy rubbish anyway. I couldnt give a sh!te if Katy French fell off a cliff tbh. Just another media whore.

    harsh.......but true :):):)

    first i heard about this is its page one news on the herald which i suppose would mean TV3 news must see themselves heading for that demographic. honestly i couldnt give a **** about this and have done my best to avoid the story. if she's sick all well and good and best of health to her but considering the wall to wall coverage she gets for nothing in certain parts of the media (im dreading getting the sindo this week, i bet the ****ers will get a 4 page spread out of this. i can practically hear brendan o connor typing away now :rolleyes: ) i cant help thinking its just cynical media manipulation
    on her agents part.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 950 ✭✭✭EamonnKeane


    but it is astonishing that an actual newsroom decided "we'll go with that first" ahead of the Russian elections and the Venezuelans rejecting Chavez' crazy plan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭iMax


    Don't just post here. Call them & Email them & complain. Head of News is Andrew Hanlon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    as a side issue, the rte news did a piece about the spice girls tour. this is not news even if its the silly story at the end.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,560 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    RTE did cover it last night. I thought it was a bit ripe that at the end of the report they mentioned her interviews with the Sunday tabloids about doing Cocaine then they mentioned the recent incident at the party in Waterford, as if they were trying to imply something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭hallelujajordan


    harsh.......but true :):):)

    i cant help thinking its just cynical media manipulation
    on her agents part.

    Bit harsh !! Whatever you might think of her it looks like she really is fighting for her life right now. .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 mcquaid2007


    i really hope she pulls through..really nice girl...i also learned like 20 mins ago i have same birthday as her so like last thursday i was exactly one year older than her...i turned 25 she turned 24....i feel really bad bout this...and yeah the omagh story to boot...:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭gazzer


    TV3 are filming a show (Diary of a Celebrity)at the moment about Katy French. They have been following here around the last few weeks and were out in force at her party last week. No doubt they want to add this latest incident to their documentary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 701 ✭✭✭BarryCreed


    [snip] I have no sympathy for her, she'd only love the attention she's getting out of it anyways, her moment of fame was as a result of her boyfriend going ape last year....
    I know of many more poeple taken ill last weekend who do a lot more worthwhile things in life, but they wouldnt make the news would they...?
    TV3 is a joke shop. any channel that gives air to celia holman lee and her ilk should be shut down...
    as someone said b4, only time TV3 mention the famine in africa is when there is a charity single associated with it:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 985 ✭✭✭spadder


    I'm lost. Who de fcuk is Katy French????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,331 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    spadder wrote: »
    I'm lost. Who de fcuk is Katy French????

    all you need to know about katy French

    And some fo the attitudes here are appalling. Some just using an excuse to have a go at the girl rather than TV3.

    Anybody see a newspaper without her on the fron this morning? IT only...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭hallelujajordan


    BarryCreed wrote: »
    I have no sympathy for her, she'd only love the attention she's getting out of it anyways, :mad:

    That's appalling ! Like her or not, the girl is in ICU for god sake . . . She is fighting for her life right now and for anyone to suggest that she is 'loving the attention' is just plain ignorant !

    And for those who suggest it is not newsworthy, gimme a break . . when anyone in the public eye ends up in a situation like this its newsworthy. The mere fact that we are bothering to write on a bb about it demonstrates its newsworthiness.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    Firstly, I've edited BarryCreed's post - the cause of her illness has not yet been confirmed so I'm asking people not to post their assumptions here. Any such posts will be deleted and repeat offenders banned.
    That's appalling ! Like her or not, the girl is in ICU for god sake . . . She is fighting for her life right now and for anyone to suggest that she is 'loving the attention' is just plain ignorant !

    And for those who suggest it is not newsworthy, gimme a break . . when anyone in the public eye ends up in a situation like this its newsworthy. The mere fact that we are bothering to write on a bb about it demonstrates its newsworthiness.

    Do you really think everything discussed on a BB is newsworthy? Have you read After Hours lately?

    I don't think there's much news worth in a story about someone like French being taken ill - no more than it would be if it were you or I. That's of no disrespect to her or her family as it's obviously a personal tragedy for them... it's just not of national importance IMO.

    That said she was in the public eye so it's bound to get a mention in the news, most people here accept that, it's the fact that TV3 put it top of the bill that's the problem.

    And yeah, RTÉ have grown a tendency to end with some "and finally" stories lately - very annoying. I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I have plenty of TV channels, CDs, DVDs and games for when I want to be entertained - I don't need the news to fill that gap, I need it to do its job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,331 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    flogen wrote: »
    I don't think there's much news worth in a story... it's just not of national importance IMO.

    While not disagreeing with the rest of you post, and the general tone etc, I don't think only matters of national importance should be covered by the news.

    Plenty of pieces from sport to wii shortages to somebody winning 11 million in the lotto aren't of national importance but each have their place in the news.

    I accept fully you differenciate between news items and newsleads...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭hallelujajordan


    flogen wrote: »

    Do you really think everything discussed on a BB is newsworthy? Have you read After Hours lately?

    Fair point, regardless though I don't think there is any disputing the newsworthiness of this story. .

    And, while I take your point about TV3 using it as the lead story, it looks like they stole a march on the newpapers who pretty much all considered it front page material.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    Dodge wrote: »
    While not disagreeing with the rest of you post, and the general tone etc, I don't think only matters of national importance should be covered by the news.

    Plenty of pieces from sport to wii shortages to somebody winning 11 million in the lotto aren't of national importance but each have their place in the news.

    I accept fully you differenciate between news items and newsleads...

    Fair point - regional stories have as much place in national news, in fact regional stories usually are what makes up national news so "national importance" isn't really a fitting way to decide what should be covered.
    Fair point, regardless though I don't think there is any disputing the newsworthiness of this story. .

    And, while I take your point about TV3 using it as the lead story, it looks like they stole a march on the newpapers who pretty much all considered it front page material.

    I think that is more of a comment on the state of our national press than a justification for others to follow suit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    At least one of the tabloids is unwisely reporting it as "a suspected cocaine overdose" as a matter of fact. If by some miracle it turns out not to be the case they are in deep sh1t. While you could get away with this type of thing if it was Pete Doherty or someone else currently well known to be addicted, this is a different story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 350 ✭✭Ray777


    Dodge wrote: »

    Or alternatively...

    all you need to know about katy French

    Regardless of whether or not she survives, it looks as though Katy French is to the (s)indo what Diana is to the Express.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    mike65 wrote: »
    I was going to ask who's Katy French.

    Mike.

    She is a nice sexy model.Look online :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    Ray777 wrote: »
    Or alternatively...

    all you need to know about katy French

    Regardless of whether or not she survives, it looks as though Katy French is to the (s)indo what Diana is to the Express.

    Indeed. Only at the weekend there was a piece where she discussed having used in the past, but not any more.

    Of course, regular mediawatchers will be shocked at this first, the Sunday Indo actually managing to interview someone who has actually taken cocaine, rather than "setting scene" journalism with fictional accounts of schoolboys from a generic south Dublin private school picking up their drugs on the quiet. The Sindo is a rag of the lowest kind and should not be taken seriously in any circumstances.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    Hope she survives.Even if she did take anything she doesnt deserve to die.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    drdre wrote: »
    Hope she survives.Even if she did take anything she doesnt deserve to die.

    Indeed. There are an awful amount of bitchy women in any thread that crops up about her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭cashville


    i absolutely hate her and all that 'celebrity' model bull,but i hope she recovers soon. would'nt wish it upon anyone.....

    BUT.....

    the media attention it's getting is ridiculous. i was in work today checking sky.com/news to see what was goin on in the world...what was one of the top stories on the front page?? 'top irish model taken seriously ill' or something to that effect.COME ON!!!???? unbelievable!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭zuchum


    RTE did cover it last night. I thought it was a bit ripe that at the end of the report they mentioned her interviews with the Sunday tabloids about doing Cocaine then they mentioned the recent incident at the party in Waterford, as if they were trying to imply something.

    that also happened in the evening herald...it seems like they know something we don't imo but legally aren't allowed say it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    think it was the forth or fifth story on rte tonight, behind the budget, abbots job loses and the death of the young lad following a house party, would say tv3 is more directed at entertainment rather than current affairs

    regardless of what ms french has done or said before or how she has highlighted her career, dont think she derserves to get a slagging, and hopefully she does make a full recovery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭zuchum


    Dodge wrote: »
    all you need to know about katy French

    And some fo the attitudes here are appalling. Some just using an excuse to have a go at the girl rather than TV3.

    Anybody see a newspaper without her on the fron this morning? IT only...

    thankfully,we have one real newspaper in this country


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    Just a general note to ask people to stick to the media coverage of French's illness - no need to get too heavy into what she's known for or if you think she's a looker or not etc. etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭iMax


    zuchum wrote: »
    they know something we don't imo but legally aren't allowed say it

    Correctamundo !!!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    zuchum wrote: »
    that also happened in the evening herald...it seems like they know something we don't imo but legally aren't allowed say it

    Whether they know anything is debatable - they certainly assume something, as do other media outlets and most certainly individuals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭seanabc


    I was going to ask who's Katy French.

    Me too. Apparently she's a 24-year-old woman who's done well for herself by getting her photograph taken. This is undoubtedly a very sad time for her family and friends, but I'm neither and it's not really news unless TV3 happen to know the reason why she fell ill and if that reason happens to be something that may be in the public interest for us to know about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭dbnavan


    I have to say I am deplored by the coverage she is getting Navan is one of the fasted growing towns in Ireland, and on the brink of loosing its hospitial, yet it takes a 'B' List 'celeb' who very few people have heard of to get the countries media to have Outside Broadcasts to be camped outside it, what does this say about our society?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    Tha Gopher wrote: »
    At least one of the tabloids is unwisely reporting it as "a suspected cocaine overdose" as a matter of fact. If by some miracle it turns out not to be the case they are in deep sh1t. While you could get away with this type of thing if it was Pete Doherty or someone else currently well known to be addicted, this is a different story.

    did she or did she not admit to having been a coke addict in the past few weeks? I thought once an addict always an addict.

    you may want to avoid libel but why lie and say it cos she working too hard. I thought people here liked factual news.

    why the coyness, theres a level of truth and fact far beyond ' the tired and emotional line' that been peddled at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭ivorygal


    I think you're right, in the grand scheme of things one person shouldn't dominate the headlines when there are broader issues that need addressing in our society.

    However, there is huge public interest in the case of Katy French - it is all people have been talking about today. The story has received an incredible amount of coverage in the daily and evening papers and TV3 were feeding this interest. I believe that the editors of TV3 news must have taken the view that 'people want to know what's going on, people are really interested - lets give the people want they want'.

    Katy French is a public figure - there is bound to be interest and the circumstances surrounding her condition. A condition which remains mysterious and dramatic - which holds peoples interest.

    The rumoured reason for Katy's illness is incredibly topical in todays media agenda and Irish society. Tonight's Prime Time programme focused on Kevin Doyle who died today after ingesting damp cocaine at a house party - he was 21. So if a high profile person is rumoured and I stress the word rumoured to be involved in a similar scenario - it's bound to be news worthy.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    did she or did she not admit to having been a coke addict in the past few weeks? I thought once an addict always an addict.

    you may want to avoid libel but why lie and say it cos she working too hard. I thought people here liked factual news.

    why the coyness, theres a level of truth and fact far beyond ' the tired and emotional line' that been peddled at the moment.

    I think she admitted to having taken cocaine - nothing about having an addiction and even still it doesn't add any certainty to what caused her illness.

    There have been less stupid suggestions than the 'tired and emotional' line but I think everyone's come to their own conclusion already - that said it's an assumptive conclusion and one that would be dangerous to state it at the moment IMO.

    I'm certainly not going to allow it here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭Keith186


    I don't really see why some people hate her, she seems alright and hasn't done anything bad.
    Not a leading story for national news fair enough but news all the less.
    Hope she gets well soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭zuchum


    I know this wouldn't be deemed traditionally newsworthy...but it's the top read story on the Irish Times and other websites.

    People like celebrities,and drama...so although TV3 have shown that they don't show much in the traditional reporting ideals,they know what people like....ow what does that say about us people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭AngryHippie


    It could be any number of reasons,
    Genetic predisposition
    Sudden Adult Death Syndrome (close call)
    Exhaustion hectic few days, run down, antibiotics few pints-keel over
    Undetected heart condition

    Leave her recover and she'll tell us in the fullness of time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    TBH I don't think we would be so critical of TV3's coverage if they did not have only the one facet of the story to report on.

    I don't want to delve into the murky world of libel law so thats all I'm going to say on the matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    did she or did she not admit to having been a coke addict in the past few weeks? I thought once an addict always an addict.

    I read the interview (was it in last Sundays indo or the week before? I was reading one my housemate left in the sitting room, god knows why she buys that rubbish but sure its something to read). I dunno, i got the impression she had been an occasional user, addict comparisons just seemed over the top.

    As for what defines an addict, in 12 years if any by then 30 year old Irish actor is asked whether he ever did coke, he may reply a few times when he was 18 but has barely touched it since. Which would be fact, as I would say a majority of young Irish men have tried coke at some point. So if he collapsed on a night out, comparing it to an interview where the guy said he tried it a few times 12 years previously wouldnt hold much weight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    well when somebody dies or goes to hospital suddenly the media usually report existing medical conditions whether the cause or not, using coke affects your medical condition one way or another :)

    it would been amiss of rte not to state what she said her one of her most recent interviews


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 365 ✭✭rs


    Here is my problem with all this.

    A young 24 year old woman has massive heart attack at 3am on Sunday morning. This is pretty unusual. Most 24 year old people don't have massive heart attacks unless

    a) The have an existing medical condition (heart condition, weight problem, etc)
    b) They are involved in strenuous sport
    c) medication related

    My question is, why has no-one from the family or hospital made a statement as to the suspected cause of her condition. I have no doubt that the media are asking direct questions for which they are not getting direct answers. This is what is causing all the speculation.

    If there is nothing to hide, why all the silence?

    Why has there been no statement from the hospital that this was NOT drug related.


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