New laptop recommendations

Chucky the tree

Need too get a new laptop as the one i have is **** and slow. So was wondering what other people use(who use laptops). Dont need anything too fancy really as it will be mainly for poker and music(have a portable HD so size doesnt matter).

The one i have currently is Toshiba and i have never had any problems with it, but was wondering what are the dell laptops like?


Edit: Whats the new windows Vista like? I have heard nothing but bad things about it when it comes to using PT, poker sites and a hud. Has it gotten any better?

Theresalwaysone

I have a dell and dislike it. Although they are fine afaik.

not sure if that helps.....

Mr.Plough

i use a vostro and its fine, cheap aswell. although i only use it for poker. not sure about vista

RoundTower

I think you'll get better responses in another forum, here you will get some anecdotal "I have a *** and I think it's sh:te" or "I have a *** and I'm happy with it" but nothing to compare 2 brands reliably.

BTW I haven't heard anything good about Vista for anything, never mind poker. At the moment I certainly wouldn't consider it if I was getting a new machine.

Chucky the tree

RoundTower wrote: »

I think you'll get better responses in another forum, here you will get some anecdotal "I have a *** and I think it's sh:te" or "I have a *** and I'm happy with it" but nothing to compare 2 brands reliably.

BTW I haven't heard anything good about Vista for anything, never mind poker. At the moment I certainly wouldn't consider it if I was getting a new machine.

I thought that, but the laptop forums seems prtty dead so didnt i would get much there. Might stick a post in the bargin alerts thread.

digiman

I have a Dell XPS with windows vista and use it with Pokertracker, Eyepoker, Gametime and have no problems with them at all. It has a 1920x1200 res screen so its very good for playing poker. If I was you I would put in a max bid of €1000 for this laptop on the dell ebay outlet, pretty amazing laptop and would be unreal for playing poker, you could datamine 16 tables with no effect on other programs and comfortably 6 table on ipoker or if you use mini view then you could easily fit 9 tables with no overlap at all.

Edit: Just priced this up on the dell website and its worth about €1379, wait until about 5 mins before the auction ends and then put in a bid for it. Excellent deal altogether.

MuddyDog

if you get a top of the range dell you won't go wrong.

valor

What digiman said

mewso

Dells are fine. If it's just for poker I don't think you need anything that powerful either. Screen resolution would be your only priority. I build my own PCs but I have a DELL work laptop and it very nice. I think spending a grand on a laptop if all you're going to do is play poker/browse the web is madness tbh. If you like to play games thats another story altogether.

jayhawk

Against the express advice of my excellent local computer consultant, who credits disappointed Dell users for most of his new business, I bought a Dell XPS 1710 recently with, allegedly, all the bells and whistles, including Vista. The price was too appealing...

I also acquired a huge new Dell monitor for my custom PC.

The monitor’s on/off button didn’t last but a few months. Rather than go without a monitor, on the slim chance I might secure affordable service to fix a simple switch, I plug and unplug it manually, the old school way.

It took me weeks to get poker sites and associated programs on my laptop and Vista-compatible. Some still do not work properly and sharing databases between my two primary computers , with operating systems of differing generations, is too tedious to attempt.

Alternating computers for poker play throws up red flags to the poker sites; Party does not allow me to chat on my PC now, for what reason I know not, Stars will periodically ask me to confirm my identity.

I’ve never added something to my laptop without having to go on an expedition for some obscure driver, with few directions from either Vista or Dell. My system is packed with useless, inexplicable stuff, that just slows things down every time I turn it on, seeking updates, offering unwanted advice, splashing junk onto every corner of the screen, pitching goods and services I have no interest in. It’s as if Dell has designed this system to be purposely user-unfriendly. I would like to give it back to Mr Dell, preferably via his tailpipe.

There is no slot at all for a proper sound card (although my Dell salesperson specifically advised that my particular sound card was supported) and I still have not sorted out an acceptable way to view multimedia, unlike my old laptop, my PC and my iMac.

The battery is hopelessly weak and weaker than most. The battery life advertised is based on an automatic dim-screen operation that has the limitation of only hinting that there might allegedly be something there to see.

And all this might be modestly acceptable, and I might be just sullen, rather than mutinous, except for the inevitable and inescapable blue screen of death, which kills my spiffy new laptop every time I employ my Firefox browser. I dare you to find a fix for this; Google Dell and blue screen if you have a taste for horror.

So what I have here is nothing more than a high-priced, unattractive table decoration.

This is not my first expensive waste of time with Dell. It is the last. Fair warning...

I would also say that, from my point of view, Vista’s time has not yet arrived. Avoid it, until Mr Gates absolutely insists (he will).

Now, would you like to get me started on Moviestar? Ah, but that's another forum. (Look for my comprehensive post there is a couple of weeks...)

Gillybean72

I cant see past my Toshiba, very reliable and no problems at all. Heard a few things about Vista going both ways. I like XP Pro. I have never been a Dell fan myself, that and Compaq are my pet hates.

Brando_ie

It may have been mentioned but depending on the site you use and the availability of re-sizable tables I would look for a laptop that has a min horizontal resolution of 1600 dpi to avoid having to overlap on iPoker sites for example and assuming you intend to play more than one table. I too am looking for a laptop and am in the same dilemma over Vista, but I intending waiting until after SP1 in January to see if that helps or further hinders us poker players.

I'm sure I will post in the laptop forum when I settle on a machine to get some comments and would suggest you do the same with a few specs for advice

On consideration, it might be worth a thread where people post poker specific problems with Vista to determine if it is a viable OS at the moment. I currently do not believe pokertracker works with Vista and would welcome finding out that is now not the case?

digiman

Brando_ie wrote: »

I currently do not believe pokertracker works with Vista and would welcome finding out that is now not the case?

Pokertracker works for me on Vista with no major problems, I have some PT problems now and again but I think I would have the same problems on XP also.

The most important thing in my opinion is screen resolution.

Chucky the tree

I play on ipoker and play 4 tables, sometimes 6 but that leads to overlapping. What resolution would be best? What would i need to play on 8 tables with no overlapping?

Brando_ie

For 4 tables you would need a minimum 1600 x 1024 WXGA+ (or WSXGA at 1680 x 1050) but I would guess that you would have overlap on 6 full iPoker tables. There is a 1920 x 1200 WUXGA monitor ( FOR EXAMPLE ) which would be comfortable for 6 tables of iPoker (or so I hope)

kincsem

I don't have a laptop. I use my Dell computer plugged into my Sony Bravia 32" TV at 1280 x 768 resolution. Thats good for six PokerStars minimum size tables with a very slight overlap (but I only play one table). I can't see the point in laptops.

Macspower

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I play on ipoker and play 4 tables, sometimes 6 but that leads to overlapping. What resolution would be best? What would i need to play on 8 tables with no overlapping?

miniview

AlmightyCushion

If all you are doing is playing a bit of poker and listening to music then you don't need anything great. Whoever said get a top of the range laptop, clearly doesn't know what they are talking about.

Go for a dell vostro. They are great laptops for the money right now. The vostro 1000 can be configured with either xp or vista.

You could go for this vostro 1000. It's €349 excluding delivery and vat and will be more than adequate for what you need. I'd upgrade the battery to a 6 cell. If you want vista on it, I'd upgrade the ram to 2GBs.

[nicK]

splash out, one time.. 17" macbook pro (high res).. possible overkill but goddamn you won't regret it, i certainly havn't..

mocata

If you get a laptop with vista on it, you can actually downgrade it to XP. that dell laptop on ebay looks great value. Give a local IT guy €40 to put a new partition on it with XP on it. Then in 18 months or so when vista is through its first bug-fix cycle you can start using that if you decide. A screen with a crap resolution is a false economy IMO, how much are your eyes/comfort worth?

The_Chopper

Obviously you're looking for a good graphic card so you can see at least 4 screens with no overlap?
If price is not a problem there are 2 real options,
1. Is the dell customized thing, probably go for the XPS one.
2. Alienware. This is probably the best performing laptop on the market. For performance and gaming it just can't be matched. It's a little more then the dell, but it kicks ass.

The one thing I like about Vista vs XP, it's much harder to crash Vista. It will generally try and sort the problem out and only close the application as a last resort. When XP encouters a problem it just closes,

Chucky the tree

From doing a bit of searching people recommen getting the Intel 2 duo processor with 2ghz and 2GB's of ram with a 17" montior(1920x1200 display). Seems a bit much too me considering i just want too play at least 6 mini-views tables with no overlap and a hud running with PT.

mewso

The Intel Core 2 Duo is the top of the line for laptops and not necessary but most latops will have it anyway. Nice but not necessary. The extra RAM never hurts. You don't say what your max spend is. The other thing I forgot to mention about Vista is that it's good for multimedia stuff as it includes Media Centre so if you like playing music/watching DVDs etc. it's worth considering.

max_power

What screen res would i be looking to get to 6 table ipoker miniview with no overlap? Thanks.

Chucky the tree

musician wrote: »

The Intel Core 2 Duo is the top of the line for laptops and not necessary but most latops will have it anyway. Nice but not necessary. The extra RAM never hurts. You don't say what your max spend is. The other thing I forgot to mention about Vista is that it's good for multimedia stuff as it includes Media Centre so if you like playing music/watching DVDs etc. it's worth considering.

I dont really have a max spend, but i dont want too pay €1k or so for a laptop if i can get one for €500 that will do what i want and do it well.

I was looking at the Inspiron 1520 for €799 with the monitor up graded too 15.4" widscreen with 1440x900 resolution.

intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7250 (2.00 GHz, 2 MB L2 cache, 800 MHz FSB) [Included in Price]
5.4" Widescreen WXGA+ (1440x900) TFT Display with TrueLife™ [Included in Price]
2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024] [Included in Price]
160GB (5400RPM) SATA Hard Drive [Included in Price]
Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100 [Included in Price]


Wouldnt use it for DVD's at all really.

mewso

Was looking at Dell's site after posting here and some things annoyed me. They have 17" screen laptops that appear to be Vista only for some bizarre reason. You could ring them and they would probably be willing to put XP on it instead but having Vista is probably not the end of the world.
They also seem to charge a small extra charge on all their PCs if you want XP instead of Vista which is lame.
The Inspiron 1720 has the 17" screen and starts at €749. You can customise from there but the one you have picked out is a good deal if you are happy with the screen size. Also if there is much saving on picking a cheaper CPU it might be worth it.
Finally bear in mind that in January these prices could be reduced even more. Oh and check the Dell Outlet.

Chucky the tree

Narrowned it down too these two, could do with opinions on which is the best?
And i see the resulotion on the Toshiba is 1,440 x 900 which is crap for poker isnt it? What's a max external video mode mean?

Toshiba Satellite P200-1FC - €1,082
- - Intel® Centrino® Duo processor technology featuring Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T7300
- Genuine Windows® Vista® Home Premium Edition
- HD DVD-ROM drive
- 2,048 (1,024 + 1,024) MB
- 17.1 " Toshiba TruBrite® WXGA+ TFT display internal resolution : 1,440 x 900

Max External Video Modes:
Max Resolution : 2,048 x 1,536
Max Colours : 4.3 billion
Max Refresh Rate : 100 Hz
Non-interlaced resolution with max refresh rate : 1,600 x 1,200

Dell Inspiron 1720 - €909
- Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7250 (2.00 GHz, 2 MB L2 cache, 800 MHz FSB)
- 17.0" UltraSharp™ Wide Screen WUXGA (1920x1200) TFT Display with TrueLife
- 2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
- 160GB (5400RPM) SATA Hard Drive
- Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100

ditpoker

haven't a breeze about computers and what goes on inside them but am in the market for a new laptop that i can watch stuff i acquire from my cousin and play lots of pokah clearly.

chucky, let me know which one you get and i'll probably end up getting the same one!

ditpoker

"17" UltraSharpTM Wide Screen UXGA (1920x1200) display with TrueLifeTM
17" Wide Screen XGA+ (1440x900) display with TrueLifeTM
17" Wide Screen XGA+ (1440x900) display"

i assume that bigger number means i can play more tables clearly!!?!? without overlap!?

dvdfan

ditpoker wrote: »

"17" UltraSharpTM Wide Screen UXGA (1920x1200) display with TrueLifeTM
17" Wide Screen XGA+ (1440x900) display with TrueLifeTM
17" Wide Screen XGA+ (1440x900) display"

i assume that bigger number means i can play more tables clearly!!?!? without overlap!?

Yep, i have a 1920 x 1200 monitor (cost in the region of €600) and you can play 6 full view ipoker tables with only a small amount of overlap, 4 with only a tiny bit of vertical overlap and no horizontal overlap or 12 miniview tables with little or no overlap.

Before that i had a 1280 x 960 monitor and i couldnt even fit 2 ipoker without overlap and when i played 4 tables there was considerable overlap. From a poker point of view theres no contest, if the 1920 x 1200 is available then id pay the extra couple of hundred as its more than worth it

btw my monitor is 24" so even though the 17" can fit the same amount of monitors with the same overlap the tables will obviously be bigger for me, not really a problem with full view but i taught the mini view was hard to work with on my 24" so i can only imagine what it would be like on a 17" screen

dvdfan

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Narrowned it down too these two, could do with opinions on which is the best?
And i see the resulotion on the Toshiba is 1,440 x 900 which is crap for poker isnt it? What's a max external video mode mean?

Toshiba Satellite P200-1FC - €1,082
- - Intel® Centrino® Duo processor technology featuring Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T7300
- Genuine Windows® Vista® Home Premium Edition
- HD DVD-ROM drive
- 2,048 (1,024 + 1,024) MB
- 17.1 " Toshiba TruBrite® WXGA+ TFT display internal resolution : 1,440 x 900

Max External Video Modes:
Max Resolution : 2,048 x 1,536
Max Colours : 4.3 billion
Max Refresh Rate : 100 Hz
Non-interlaced resolution with max refresh rate : 1,600 x 1,200

Dell Inspiron 1720 - €909
- Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7250 (2.00 GHz, 2 MB L2 cache, 800 MHz FSB)
- 17.0" UltraSharp™ Wide Screen WUXGA (1920x1200) TFT Display with TrueLife
- 2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
- 160GB (5400RPM) SATA Hard Drive
- Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100

Have to say the dell inspiron with 1920 x 1200 screen looks an absolute baragin but i havent compared it to whats on the market at the moment and its been a while since i bought a new pc/laptop

ditpoker

dvdfan wrote: »

Yep, i have a 1920 x 1200 monitor (cost in the region of €600) and you can play 6 full view ipoker tables with only a small amount of overlap, 4 with only a tiny bit of vertical overlap and no horizontal overlap or 12 miniview tables with little or no overlap.

Before that i had a 1280 x 960 monitor and i couldnt even fit 2 ipoker without overlap and when i played 4 tables there was considerable overlap. From a poker point of view theres no contest, if the 1920 x 1200 is available then id pay the extra couple of hundred as its more than worth it

btw my monitor is 24" so even though the 17" can fit the same amount of monitors with the same overlap the tables will obviously be bigger for me, not really a problem with full view but i taught the mini view was hard to work with on my 24" so i can only imagine what it would be like on a 17" screen

hmmmm... €600, 24" screen, and 1920x1200 ... where did you find this kind sir? My main uses for a new laptop will be poker, downloads (films, tv eps) and some basic Word and Excel rubbish. i'm happy to give all the extra ram and other three letter acronyms that i dont understand a miss...

dvdfan

Have a look at this thread for the details:)

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055126046&referrerid=&highlight=dell+monitor

AlmightyCushion

ditpoker wrote: »

hmmmm... €600, 24" screen, and 1920x1200 ... where did you find this kind sir? My main uses for a new laptop will be poker, downloads (films, tv eps) and some basic Word and Excel rubbish. i'm happy to give all the extra ram and other three letter acronyms that i dont understand a miss...

You can get a 24" monitor for around €400 now.

dvdfan

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

You can get a 24" monitor for around €400 now.

Spotted one on the PCbuyit website Dell True Colour E248WFP 24" 5ms 4 Year NBD warranty - Including Dead pixel guarantee ** for £245 sterling so with delivery included you can get it for around €360 compared with the one i mentioned which is around €500 now inc delivery so theres seems to be a bit of competition in the market now which is a good thing.

Also one available here on komplett for €440, jees why hadnt i got these options when i was ordering:

http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=336729

AlmightyCushion

dvdfan wrote: »

Spotted one on the PCbuyit website Dell True Colour E248WFP 24" 5ms 4 Year NBD warranty - Including Dead pixel guarantee ** for £245 sterling so with delivery included you can get it for around €360 compared with the one i mentioned which is around €500 now inc delivery so theres seems to be a bit of competition in the market now which is a good thing.

Also one available here on komplett for €440, jees why hadnt i got these options when i was ordering:

http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=336729

Dead pixel guarantee is nice. There are acer ones on komplett for around €360. I'd still prefer the samsung though.

The Al Lad

I got a new laptop 2 weeks ago with windows vista and am having problems downloading pokerstars software... keep getting an error on the screen telling me to close all other pages...even when there's nothing open...


Any idea's ???

Brendygg

I have a dell inspiron 6000 bout 2 years old with a 1900x1200 monitor, great laptop never had any problems.

jayteecork

kincsem wrote: »

I can't see the point in laptops.

Most bizarre thing I've read today.

jayteecork

The Al Lad wrote: »

I got a new laptop 2 weeks ago with windows vista and am having problems downloading pokerstars software... keep getting an error on the screen telling me to close all other pages...even when there's nothing open...


Any idea's ???

If you're using Internet Explorer try downloading Mozilla Firefox and downloading it from that.

mewso

Chucky the tree wrote: »

What's a max external video mode mean?

I'd be pretty certain that refers to the capability of the video card in the machine. i.e. if you plug a capable monitor into your laptop you will get those quoted resolutions but not as normal with the laptop screen.

The Al Lad

jayteecork wrote: »

If you're using Internet Explorer try downloading Mozilla Firefox and downloading it from that.

ha ha got it

cheers mate:)

jayteecork

no problem Al Lad.
If you're going for value I'd go with Dell.
I got a Dell Inspiron 6400 last August, 1.86 Dual Core Processors, 2GB RAM, 256MB graphics, Vista Home Premium. Because I got tax exception cost me 500 euro!
Unbelievable really, when you consider the awful laptops a few years ago cost 2 grand

PokerChild

Chuckie,

Try playing with these....

http://www.dmxdimension.com/

Then when you have a code, on the following site were it says Enter E Value code, in the first box enter sh1te E.G. 999 and then put in the code from the DMX site in the second box. E.G. code N0172002

Dell EPP

I use the EPP because it includes VAT and delivery on the screen.

The code above with upgraded screen (Screen WUXGA (1920x1200) and battery = 757

Now I assume it is only for poker and surfing? It will still be grand for general office and DVD stuff but no good for modern "gaming". Probably still good for Counterstrike and the likes though.

phantom_lord

I'm thinking of getting this, mainly just gonna be using it for the pokers, anyone recommend any changes?

Komplett Intel Gamer €968.34 

PC box
Gigabyte Triton 180 Black
AXP Powersupply ATX 630W Retail SLI,
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3, P35, Socket-775,
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz
Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 4096MB CL5,
Gigabyte GeForce 8400GS 256MB DDR2,
Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 500GB SATA2
Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 500GB SATA2
NEC DVD±RW burner AD-7200 IDE Black OEM,
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Eng

jayhawk

Assuming you have not made your decision and, having gone on a rant here earlier on Dell, here's a follow-up:

1. Roundtower had the best suggestion. This isn't the best place for this. (Unless this gear is almost solely for poker, in which case any up-to-date budget desktop with the biggest possible monitor would seem to be the obvious choice.)

2. My inability to chat via my desktop PC on Party was a function of enabling spyware and denying Party full access. Removing programs like ProcessGuard and others allowed me to chat again. I also learned, that had I actually been chat-banned, my Party smiley face would have appeared red-ex'ed, a public humiliation that makes ME smile...

3. My dreadful bluescreen problem with my relatively new Dell XPS M1710 notebook was probably also a function of installed spyware, like ProcessGuard. I removed all this stuff and much more, with a tuneup suggested by czGLoRy in the 2+2 software archives, "9 steps to computer performance," and other steps. There are other helpful links and tuning tools to be found via that thread. (Fair warning: Do create a system restore point first. I tuned three computers and managed to kill one program on an old laptop I use daily -- so dead that I will not be able to restore it without a complete Windows reinstall !)

4. My new notebook, like many others, does not even have an exterior speaker jack (I watch movies during a daily indoor rowing workout). It wouldn't have produced sufficient volume anyway and, because the new stuff has express card slots, traditional sound cards won't work. Creative, very recently, has developed a Sound Blaster express slot solution for 88 Euro inclusive. I have not tested this yet; it's on order. There is an additional bit of gear required for more technical sound setups, at a modest cost.

5. Given the opportunity to turn back the clock, I would avoid Vista. Almost everything you might wish to access for poker requires some measure of extra steps with Vista. Why not stick with XP until it's the other way around? Particularly with the totally new versions of Poker Tracker/Poker Ace and Hold'em Manager/HUD just around the corner.

phantom_lord

dvdfan wrote: »

Have a look at this thread for the details:)

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055126046&referrerid=&highlight=dell+monitor

I see in that thread the guy from the website said you didn't have to pay any vat, is that true? if so i guess I'm gonna get another dell 2007FP 20"

PokerChild

phantom_lord wrote: »

I'm thinking of getting this, mainly just gonna be using it for the pokers, anyone recommend any changes?

Komplett Intel Gamer €968.34 

PC box
Gigabyte Triton 180 Black
AXP Powersupply ATX 630W Retail SLI,
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3, P35, Socket-775,
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz
Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 4096MB CL5,
Gigabyte GeForce 8400GS 256MB DDR2,
Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 500GB SATA2
Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 500GB SATA2
NEC DVD±RW burner AD-7200 IDE Black OEM,
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Eng

Yeah...save your money if it is just for poker? Quad core is for gaming...as is the GFX card you have listed.

Dell EPP as above...

Code D122003

Upgrade CPU to Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6550 Processor (2.33GHz,1333MHz,4MB cache

Down grade the warranty....

Add Dell™ 22" Black Wide Flat Panel (E228WFP) - UK/Irish

Add 500GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache

Add 128MB ATI® Radeon™ HD 2400 Pro graphics card

€ 905.79

Note the new 22 inch screen....

Use my post above to use the EPP and play with the Vostros desk tops.

I hate to see people being ripped off or making incorrect buys when it coms to PC's. And cars:)

phantom_lord

cool, cheers. bit of a difference!


€ 530.69
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6550 Processor (2.33GHz,1333MHz,4MB cache)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic - English
Enhanced Service Packs Base Warranty - 1 Year Business Hardware Support
Monitor Not included
2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
500GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache
128MB ATI® Radeon™ HD 2400 Pro graphics card edit
16x DVD +/- RW Drive
Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse

gonna save €100 by getting this ram, instead of the dell upgrade.

PokerChild

phantom_lord wrote: »

cool, cheers. bit of a difference!


€ 530.69
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6550 Processor (2.33GHz,1333MHz,4MB cache)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic - English
Enhanced Service Packs Base Warranty - 1 Year Business Hardware Support
Monitor Not included
2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
500GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache
128MB ATI® Radeon™ HD 2400 Pro graphics card edit
16x DVD +/- RW Drive
Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse

gonna save €100 by getting this ram, instead of the dell upgrade.

Why do you need more RAM? It is just for poker?

For the record RAM works off the lowest denominator. If you put in a Gig of 533 and 3 gig of 667 it will only work off the lowest one. hope that makes sense.

phantom_lord

PokerChild wrote: »

Why do you need more RAM? It is just for poker?

my laptop has 1gb and it's not really enough, and since i'm getting vista as well i thought i'd beef up on it. doesn't really cose much anyway.

For the record RAM works off the lowest denominator. If you put in a Gig of 533 and 3 gig of 667 it will only work off the lowest one. hope that makes sense.

i was wondering about that, thanks.